lastdecember said:

its called laziness and ego. plain and simple and it runs rampant among ALOT of performers that have had some hits lots of money and just think that the money should always run in. For a Family that PREACHES family in every BS interview they give, he surely doesnt pay for the family he has, and if he didnt want to have kids, then he should have kept his "friend" in his pants.

In related news, apparently Jermaine, Jackie, Tito and Marlon are reuniting for a show or two in Japan and worked on "two songs" or something...

But you can bet a full album won't come out from the remaining members. Egos, you know?

Timmy84 said:

lastdecember said:

its called laziness and ego. plain and simple and it runs rampant among ALOT of performers that have had some hits lots of money and just think that the money should always run in. For a Family that PREACHES family in every BS interview they give, he surely doesnt pay for the family he has, and if he didnt want to have kids, then he should have kept his "friend" in his pants.

In related news, apparently Jermaine, Jackie, Tito and Marlon are reuniting for a show or two in Japan and worked on "two songs" or something...

But you can bet a full album won't come out from the remaining members. Egos, you know?

yeah i cant believe anything that comes out of a jacksons mouth, they could tell me that an album is done and a tour is set and tickets are printed, and even show me the artwork and i still wont believe them.

Timmy84 said:

Fuck Jermaine Jackson for ruining his own legacy.

He made his bed now he needs to lie in it and stop making excuses and shut the fuck up.

exactly. like lowkey said, he should have been out there all these years performing his own songs, coupled with some covers from some of his influences. he (and the other brothers by extension) have been in michael's shadow all these years because they've wanted to be, not because they had to be. as i said before, would as many people have showed up for their concerts as showed up for mj's? no, but it would have been good honest work for all of them.

who i fear for are michael's kids. jermaine's kids have grown up with the expectation that they deserve to be accommodated in the same manner as mj's kids, with the same perks and benefits. they don't. if i make a million dollars, my money goes to my kids FIRST and foremost, not any nieces and nephews. but in mj's family, he was expected to take care of EVERYONE in the same manner to which his hard work had entitled him.

watch what happens down the line; there will be claims on the estate by certain family members, like jermaine's kids, who will claim that the estate cannot cut them off, mj's will notwithstanding, because they have come to have a certain lifestyle which they should not have to give up. mj's kids are going to be harrassed and harangued in the same way their father was to take care of 'the family'.

kibbles said:

Timmy84 said:

Fuck Jermaine Jackson for ruining his own legacy.

He made his bed now he needs to lie in it and stop making excuses and shut the fuck up.

exactly. like lowkey said, he should have been out there all these years performing his own songs, coupled with some covers from some of his influences. he (and the other brothers by extension) have been in michael's shadow all these years because they've wanted to be, not because they had to be. as i said before, would as many people have showed up for their concerts as showed up for mj's? no, but it would have been good honest work for all of them.

who i fear for are michael's kids. jermaine's kids have grown up with the expectation that they deserve to be accommodated in the same manner as mj's kids, with the same perks and benefits. they don't. if i make a million dollars, my money goes to my kids FIRST and foremost, not any nieces and nephews. but in mj's family, he was expected to take care of EVERYONE in the same manner to which his hard work had entitled him.

watch what happens down the line; there will be claims on the estate by certain family members, like jermaine's kids, who will claim that the estate cannot cut them off, mj's will notwithstanding, because they have come to have a certain lifestyle which they should not have to give up. mj's kids are going to be harrassed and harangued in the same way their father was to take care of 'the family'.

Yeah it's a fucking mess. This family is really FUCKED UP! Hell the DeBarges actually WORK! Why can't the Jacksons!? Oh yeah because they ride off Michael's coattails even after they buried him. Their fucking daddy... those kids... I also feel for Michael's children. WHY!? Ugh.

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

In related news, apparently Jermaine, Jackie, Tito and Marlon are reuniting for a show or two in Japan and worked on "two songs" or something...

But you can bet a full album won't come out from the remaining members. Egos, you know?

yeah i cant believe anything that comes out of a jacksons mouth, they could tell me that an album is done and a tour is set and tickets are printed, and even show me the artwork and i still wont believe them.

And they're apparently doing this as an opening act for a "Japanese pop singer"...

And it's in October 2011...

You mean you motherfuckers have to set a certain date to re-fucking-unite!? What kind of bull...

Timmy84 said:

kibbles said:

exactly. like lowkey said, he should have been out there all these years performing his own songs, coupled with some covers from some of his influences. he (and the other brothers by extension) have been in michael's shadow all these years because they've wanted to be, not because they had to be. as i said before, would as many people have showed up for their concerts as showed up for mj's? no, but it would have been good honest work for all of them.

who i fear for are michael's kids. jermaine's kids have grown up with the expectation that they deserve to be accommodated in the same manner as mj's kids, with the same perks and benefits. they don't. if i make a million dollars, my money goes to my kids FIRST and foremost, not any nieces and nephews. but in mj's family, he was expected to take care of EVERYONE in the same manner to which his hard work had entitled him.

watch what happens down the line; there will be claims on the estate by certain family members, like jermaine's kids, who will claim that the estate cannot cut them off, mj's will notwithstanding, because they have come to have a certain lifestyle which they should not have to give up. mj's kids are going to be harrassed and harangued in the same way their father was to take care of 'the family'.

Yeah it's a fucking mess. This family is really FUCKED UP! Hell the DeBarges actually WORK! Why can't the Jacksons!? Oh yeah because they ride off Michael's coattails even after they buried him. Their fucking daddy... those kids... I also feel for Michael's children. WHY!? Ugh.

Almost everyone still works thats the thing, be it low-key or small clubs or small theaters, people gotta eat and pay bills and support and they still tour, i mean im not even going to run down the list of artists that still tour even though they arent charting hits like they did in their hey-day. But my number example is Rick Springfield, dude plays about 100-150 dates a year and has been doing that since 1998, still records, does tv stuff now and then, did a fucking vegas show for 6 months and now is finalizing a tour movie, and he's freaking 61 years old! Jermaine you need to call Rick up and see how you do it

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah it's a fucking mess. This family is really FUCKED UP! Hell the DeBarges actually WORK! Why can't the Jacksons!? Oh yeah because they ride off Michael's coattails even after they buried him. Their fucking daddy... those kids... I also feel for Michael's children. WHY!? Ugh.

Almost everyone still works thats the thing, be it low-key or small clubs or small theaters, people gotta eat and pay bills and support and they still tour, i mean im not even going to run down the list of artists that still tour even though they arent charting hits like they did in their hey-day. But my number example is Rick Springfield, dude plays about 100-150 dates a year and has been doing that since 1998, still records, does tv stuff now and then, did a fucking vegas show for 6 months and now is finalizing a tour movie, and he's freaking 61 years old! Jermaine you need to call Rick up and see how you do it

It's just fucking sad. This family has talent...and they don't use it. So that bolsters people's claims that "well they rode on the back of Michael so fuck 'em." Might as well. All of them almost 60 making excuses as to why they don't tour, especially "I had hits in the '70s and '80s" Jermaine.

He's been too busy supporting that symbiote on his head! It's very demanding!!!

Timmy84 said:

lastdecember said:

Almost everyone still works thats the thing, be it low-key or small clubs or small theaters, people gotta eat and pay bills and support and they still tour, i mean im not even going to run down the list of artists that still tour even though they arent charting hits like they did in their hey-day. But my number example is Rick Springfield, dude plays about 100-150 dates a year and has been doing that since 1998, still records, does tv stuff now and then, did a fucking vegas show for 6 months and now is finalizing a tour movie, and he's freaking 61 years old! Jermaine you need to call Rick up and see how you do it

It's just fucking sad. This family has talent...and they don't use it. So that bolsters people's claims that "well they rode on the back of Michael so fuck 'em." Might as well. All of them almost 60 making excuses as to why they don't tour, especially "I had hits in the '70s and '80s" Jermaine.

yeah i mean he could easily play a small venue and get $$ for it, but to me, and maybe its true or maybe not, but i think the idea of a small venue damages the ego to the "jacksons" everything has to be BIG and on a grand scale, well sorry to say that its not 1984 and he isnt riding off DYNAMITE and then the victory tour, i know that its tough to sometimes come back down to EARTH but you have to or just fade away and be a tragic waste

HonestMan13 said:

He's been too busy supporting that symbiote on his head! It's very demanding!!!

Lord have mercy.

He should be ashamed of himself. He used to tour in the 80s, and he could have done it again. Maybe he thinks he's too good to play small clubs. He could have taught guitar lessons and mentored young music students over the years. Ridiculous.

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

It's just fucking sad. This family has talent...and they don't use it. So that bolsters people's claims that "well they rode on the back of Michael so fuck 'em." Might as well. All of them almost 60 making excuses as to why they don't tour, especially "I had hits in the '70s and '80s" Jermaine.

yeah i mean he could easily play a small venue and get $$ for it, but to me, and maybe its true or maybe not, but i think the idea of a small venue damages the ego to the "jacksons" everything has to be BIG and on a grand scale, well sorry to say that its not 1984 and he isnt riding off DYNAMITE and then the victory tour, i know that its tough to sometimes come back down to EARTH but you have to or just fade away and be a tragic waste

They need to realize that only Michael and Janet are capable of attracting huge audiences. The other Jacksons have to work hard to get at least a good portion of their audience back and they haven't done a good job of it. That's the REAL tragedy.

Timmy84 said:

lastdecember said:

yeah i mean he could easily play a small venue and get $$ for it, but to me, and maybe its true or maybe not, but i think the idea of a small venue damages the ego to the "jacksons" everything has to be BIG and on a grand scale, well sorry to say that its not 1984 and he isnt riding off DYNAMITE and then the victory tour, i know that its tough to sometimes come back down to EARTH but you have to or just fade away and be a tragic waste

They need to realize that only Michael and Janet are capable of attracting huge audiences. The other Jacksons have to work hard to get at least a good portion of their audience back and they haven't done a good job of it. That's the REAL tragedy.

True. I've often wondered why the rest of them weren't into acting, as a way of using that as a backup support system, in case situations like this happened. That $1, 448.00 must be his monthly allowance he gets from the family account.

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

It's just fucking sad. This family has talent...and they don't use it. So that bolsters people's claims that "well they rode on the back of Michael so fuck 'em." Might as well. All of them almost 60 making excuses as to why they don't tour, especially "I had hits in the '70s and '80s" Jermaine.

yeah i mean he could easily play a small venue and get $$ for it, but to me, and maybe its true or maybe not, but i think the idea of a small venue damages the ego to the "jacksons" everything has to be BIG and on a grand scale, well sorry to say that its not 1984 and he isnt riding off DYNAMITE and then the victory tour, i know that its tough to sometimes come back down to EARTH but you have to or just fade away and be a tragic waste

That's what I'm thinking that a small venue may be a shot to his ego, but it's better than having to owe that much in child support and that news exposed to the public. I remember he toured in the mid 80s and played the Apollo in NYC, which is not a big venue, although well-known for the many famous artists that performed there, as well as he and his brothers performing there as well in the past.

Timmy84 said:

lastdecember said:

yeah i mean he could easily play a small venue and get $$ for it, but to me, and maybe its true or maybe not, but i think the idea of a small venue damages the ego to the "jacksons" everything has to be BIG and on a grand scale, well sorry to say that its not 1984 and he isnt riding off DYNAMITE and then the victory tour, i know that its tough to sometimes come back down to EARTH but you have to or just fade away and be a tragic waste

They need to realize that only Michael and Janet are capable of attracting huge audiences. The other Jacksons have to work hard to get at least a good portion of their audience back and they haven't done a good job of it. That's the REAL tragedy.

Yeah but even with Janet i see this failure to accept a decline, i mean we all know the whole "tickets and cancelling issues" now there is a new tour announced and lets see what happens with that. I often see these great "plans" out of the jacksons but nothing comes from the plans

2elijah said:

Timmy84 said:

They need to realize that only Michael and Janet are capable of attracting huge audiences. The other Jacksons have to work hard to get at least a good portion of their audience back and they haven't done a good job of it. That's the REAL tragedy.

True. I've often wondered why the rest of them weren't into acting, as a way of using that as a backup support system, in case situations like this happened. That $1, 448.00 must be his monthly allowance he gets from the family account.

Marlon was the only other Jackson who tried but it was for a bit role as Jackie Wilson.

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

They need to realize that only Michael and Janet are capable of attracting huge audiences. The other Jacksons have to work hard to get at least a good portion of their audience back and they haven't done a good job of it. That's the REAL tragedy.

Yeah but even with Janet i see this failure to accept a decline, i mean we all know the whole "tickets and cancelling issues" now there is a new tour announced and lets see what happens with that. I often see these great "plans" out of the jacksons but nothing comes from the plans

True. But who knows, I think it's different with Janet though. I hope she pulls it off. As for the brothers... uh yeah lol

Cinnie said:

He could very easily pull out a hype Jackson 5 tribute and remember he was that dude on hits like "Daddy's Home" and "I Found That Girl".

That's the thing. He's been doing shows for the past couple of weeks. Dude just came back from France and yet he can't pay his child support?

HonestMan13 said:

He's been too busy supporting that symbiote on his head! It's very demanding!!!

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bboy87 said:

Cinnie said:

He could very easily pull out a hype Jackson 5 tribute and remember he was that dude on hits like "Daddy's Home" and "I Found That Girl".

That's the thing. He's been doing shows for the past couple of weeks. Dude just came back from France and yet he can't pay his child support?

Exactly!

Dude was a judge on the contest show "Move Like Michael Jackson"

-Did some shows at the Hard Rock Cafe in LA a couple of months ago

-Has been making special appearances all around Europe and the Middle East

and he only makes barely $2k

I posted this on a forum and Jermaine could use this strategy in his comeback

Whoever is managing him should do this
-Get with the labels who own the rights to his music (Motown and BMG) and release a 2CD set of his songs

Jermaine Jackson- The Complete Hits
Disc 1 (1972-1981)
That's How Love Goes
Daddy's Home
Live It Up
I Lost My Love In The Big City
You're In Good Hands
Come Into My Life
So In Love (with The Jackson 5)
Let's Be Young Tonight
Bass Odyssey
I Just Want Take This Time
Feel The Fire
You Need To Be Loved
Castles Of Sand
Let's Get Serious
You're Supposed To Keep Your Love For Me
Little Girl Don't You Worry
All Because Of You
You Like Me Don't You
I'm Just Too Shy
I'm My Brother's Keeper

Disc 2 (1982-1992)
Let Me Tickle My Fancy
Very Special Part
I Like Your Style
This Time
Do What You Do
Dynamite
Tell Me I'm Dreamin' (Too Good To Be True) (with Michael Jackson)
Escape From The Planet Of Ant Men
Take Good Care Of My Heart (with Whitney Houston)
When The Rain Begins To Fall (with Pia Zadora)
(Closest Thing To) Perfect
Sweetest Sweetest
I Think It's Love
Do You Remember Me?
Words Into Action
Don't Take It Personal
Two Ships In The Night
I'd Like To Get To Know You
You Said You Said
I Dream I Dream


-Then book him on shows like Good Morning America, Regis and Kelly, The Today Show

-promote a mini tour where he does shows in theaters and casinos around the country (which could possibly land him a residency in Vegas)

the mini tour's set list should consist of

I Found That Girl

That's How Love Goes
I'm A Different World
Live It Up
Daddy's Home
Sitting On The Edge Of My Mind (a personal favorite of mine)
If You Don't Love Me
Ma
Let's Be Young Tonight
Faithful
Look Past My Life
Bass Odyssey (another favorite)
Who's That Lady
My Touch Of Madness
Feel The Fire
You Need To Be Loved
Git Up And Dance
Castles Of Sand
Let's Get Serious
Where Are You Know
We Can Put It Back Together
You're Supposed To Keep Your Love For Me
The Pieces Fit
You Like Me Don't You
All Because Of You (another favorite)
I'm My Brother's Keeper
Very Special Part
Let Me Tickle Your Fancy
Dynamite
So What You Do
Closest Thing To Perfect
I Think It's Love
Words Into Action
Don't Take It Personal
Two Ships In The Night
You Said You Said

^ Greed, ego and the "Jackson name" is what he's using to excuse why he's not doing anything that you'll recommend.

Timmy84 said:

lastdecember said:

Almost everyone still works thats the thing, be it low-key or small clubs or small theaters, people gotta eat and pay bills and support and they still tour, i mean im not even going to run down the list of artists that still tour even though they arent charting hits like they did in their hey-day. But my number example is Rick Springfield, dude plays about 100-150 dates a year and has been doing that since 1998, still records, does tv stuff now and then, did a fucking vegas show for 6 months and now is finalizing a tour movie, and he's freaking 61 years old! Jermaine you need to call Rick up and see how you do it

It's just fucking sad. This family has talent...and they don't use it. So that bolsters people's claims that "well they rode on the back of Michael so fuck 'em." Might as well. All of them almost 60 making excuses as to why they don't tour, especially "I had hits in the '70s and '80s" Jermaine.

Well, not all of em'

Jermaine needs to get it together. I don't really care for his music (excluding, Lets Get Serious, Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming and Do What You Do). He may have 13 albums worth of songs, but would YOU go see him perform?

TD3 said:

HonestMan13 said:

He's been too busy supporting that symbiote on his head! It's very demanding!!!

Lord have mercy.

That thing looks like Venom from the Spiderman movie!

SoulAlive said:

This is pathetic.I guess Jermaine doesn't understand the concept of "working for a living" Someone should tell him that he needs to get out there and tour.There are many Old School artists who tour regularly to pay the bills (Howard Hewitt,Jeffrey Osborne,Freddie Jackson,even El DeBarge is out there doing his thing).

Jermaine makes his mother take care of his kids while he apparently sits around and does nothing.

And lets not forget that those kids were on Oprah as well.

Cinnie said:

You would think Jermaine being a solo act all those years would have helped him to realize that he has his own catalog he could tour with; Y'know, for the "old school" set. He needs to get serious about earning some money and perform that whole Get Serious album.

End of.

funkpill said:

Timmy84 said:

It's just fucking sad. This family has talent...and they don't use it. So that bolsters people's claims that "well they rode on the back of Michael so fuck 'em." Might as well. All of them almost 60 making excuses as to why they don't tour, especially "I had hits in the '70s and '80s" Jermaine.

Well, not all of em'

Oops I forgot about one sister who likes to charm you with snakes.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Jermaine needs to get it together. I don't really care for his music (excluding, Lets Get Serious, Tell Me I'm Not Dreaming and Do What You Do). He may have 13 albums worth of songs, but would YOU go see him perform?

See, there you go.....

I'm not sure, I don't want to make eye contact with the gleam of his fingerwaves