Cinnie said:

this is NORMAL

Exactly. I was drinking, trying cigarettes and kissing girls by 17 and it had zero to do with my mom. I did that shit because I wanted to. I am trying to find out what is so scandalous about this.

DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:

Ray J seems more braggadocious than someone who is really what he says he is. He used that porn exposure to revive his "singing career". What a joke.

How does one go from Eddie Murphy to Bobby Brown to Ray J?!

Wasn't Arsenio hittin' thems skins too? I've read that Robert Dinero tried to get at those drawyers as well and that Michael J. Fox used to send her roses by the dozens. It's hard to believe Whitney was the Halle Berry of the 80s music scene.

It was rumored they were, yeah. Don't know about Michael J. though.

Cinnie said:

this is NORMAL

No kidding.

A 17 year old drinking, smoking and kissing another girl. This is so unheard of and shocking!!!!!!!!!

DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:

Ray J seems more braggadocious than someone who is really what he says he is. He used that porn exposure to revive his "singing career". What a joke.

How does one go from Eddie Murphy to Bobby Brown to Ray J?!

Wasn't Arsenio hittin' thems skins too? I've read that Robert Dinero tried to get at those drawyers as well and that Michael J. Fox used to send her roses by the dozens. It's hard to believe Whitney was the Halle Berry of the 80s music scene.

Whitney was so lovely... Now they are probably glad they didn't hit that shit.

Cinnie said:

I would be concerned for her social development if she wasn't trying these things.

I've never smoked or drank alcohol in my life. I don't take any kinds of drugs, not even cough drops. Those things are artificial chemicals and not good for your body. I don't know what doing any of that has to do with development.

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MickyDolenz said:

Cinnie said:

I would be concerned for her social development if she wasn't trying these things.

I've never smoked or drank anything in my life. I don't take any kinds of drugs, not even cough drops. Those things are artificial chemicals and not good for your body. I don't know what doing any of that has to do with development.

He simply means experimentation - which is totally normal.

JustErin said:

MickyDolenz said:

I've never smoked or drank anything in my life. I don't take any kinds of drugs, not even cough drops. Those things are artificial chemicals and not good for your body. I don't know what doing any of that has to do with development.

He simply means experimentation - which is totally normal.

Sounds more like peer pressure to me. I didn't care about fitting in with others. I was a vegetarian (vegan now) in a school full of meat eaters.

MickyDolenz said:

JustErin said:

He simply means experimentation - which is totally normal.

Sounds more like peer pressure to me. I didn't care about fitting in with others. I was a vegetarian (vegan now) in a school full of meat eaters.

It's not about peer pressure at all. Two separate things.

sag10 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Wasn't Arsenio hittin' thems skins too? I've read that Robert Dinero tried to get at those drawyers as well and that Michael J. Fox used to send her roses by the dozens. It's hard to believe Whitney was the Halle Berry of the 80s music scene.

Whitney was so lovely... Now they are probably glad they didn't hit that shit.

Eddie reportedly did though... but it didn't last long (1989-1990) so I wonder if he saw the early signs that Whitney was already "out of control" or just about to (since her drug use didn't become heavy until after "The Bodyguard").

JustErin said:

MickyDolenz said:

Sounds more like peer pressure to me. I didn't care about fitting in with others. I was a vegetarian (vegan now) in a school full of meat eaters.

It's not about peer pressure at all. Two separate things.

Yeah it's more about finding one's fit.