sosgemini said:

Timmy84 said:

The rhythm and blues that began in the 1940s isn't the same because the genre kept giving birth to brothers and cousins but it's so confusing that everything is deemed "R&B" though it could be "rock and roll" or "blues" or "soul" or "funk".

It's as confusing as explaining rock and roll music since the rock of the 1950s wasn't the same as the 1960s or 1970s and so on and so on.

I am so not riding your jock today but goddamnit! Sisters, brothers and cousins.

Uncles, aunts, nieces...

Marvin Gaye would have to get my vote. But it's definitely not the genre of music I'm most familiar with. I only know the really big, obvious names.

Timmy84 said:

sosgemini said:

I am so not riding your jock today but goddamnit! Sisters, brothers and cousins.

Uncles, aunts, nieces...

Play cousins, great uncle, my kin (don't know how, just kin .)

Stevie wonder,Chaka Khan,James Brown.Damn it!!!There are a lot to ponder over.New entries are Rihanna Beyonce and Janelle Monae." />" />" />" />

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

Uncles, aunts, nieces...

Play cousins, great uncle, my kin (don't know how, just kin .)

The real challenge us weather or not artist like the Ink Soots, Big Joe Turner, Louis Jordan, Muddy Waters, Dinah Washington, Nat King Cole, The Orioles, BB King, ect belong on an "R&B" list.

I'm quite shocked that Usher is mentioned and not R. Kelly(maybe I didn't see it). R. Kelly was one of the pioneers of the New Jack Swing movement and dominated the 90s and early 2000s. Not only is he a great musicians but he has written and produced for artists in all genres.

• Prince
• Al Green
• Teddy Pendergrass
• Marvin Gaye
• Ron Isley
• Barry White
• R.Kelly
• Maxwell
• Babyface

Yeah, I think R. Kelly should make the list, he has a solid body of work over the last ~20 years. But I also want to give at least an honorable mention to Brian McKnight.

Also, lets not forget:

The DelFonics, The Dramatics, The Manhattans, The Whispers, The Drifters and The Chi-Lites.

Oh my, finally my top 100 list, very hard to make.

First, I narrowed it down to about 200 names, so here are some of the artist left out ...

Emotions

The Marvalettes
LeVert / Gerald Levert
Heatwave
Pointer Sisters
Sister Sledge
The “5” Royales
The Moonglows
Archie Bell & the Drells
Bobby Blue Bland
Billy Preston
Rufus Thomas / Carla Thomas
Millie Jackson

William Bell

Willie Hutch

Syreeta

Tyrone Davis
Major Lance

Tower of Power
Slave
Bloodstone
Average White Band

The Time
Midnight Star
New Birth
KC and the Sunshine Band
Ross Royce

Peabo Bryson
Natalie Cole
James Ingram
Jermaine Jackson

Stephanie Mills
Phyllis Hyman
Angela Winbush

Shalamar / Howard Hewitt / Jody Watley
Ready For The World
Force MD’s
Full Force

Mary J Blige
Brian McKnight
Mint Condition

Then here are some artist I'm not so sure about. Do they belong on an R&B list? Some were doin music before R&B was here, others were doin Blues and Jazz but they charted on the R&B charts cause they were black artist.

The Ink Spots
The Orioles
Roy Brown

Louis Jordan
Big Joe Turner
B.B. King
Dinah Washington
Muddy Waters

Little Walter

Nina Simon
Gil Scott Heron

George Benson

George Duke
Stanley Clarke
Roy Ayres

Terence Trent D'arby

Now, here is the top 100 (105 really)

1. James Brown
2. Ray Charles
3. Little Richard
4. Chuck Berry
5. Aretha Franklin
6. Marvin Gaye
7. Sam Cooke
8. Stevie Wonder
9. Michael Jackson
10. Prince

11. Temptations
12. Supremes
13. Otis Redding
14. Sly and the Family Stone
15. Al Green
16. Curtis Mayfield
17. Parliament-Funkadelic / Booty’s Rubber Band / George Clinton
18. Jackie Wilson
19. Bo Diddley
20. The Miracles
21. Isley Brothers
22. Isaac Hayes
23 .Wilson Pickett
24. Barry White
25. Jackson 5 / Jacksons

26. Etta James
27. Fats Domino
28. The Platters
29. Impressions
30. The Drifters
31. Four Tops
32. Ruth Brown
33. Booker T and the M.G.s
34. Donny Hathaway
35. Jerry Butler
36. Gladys Knight and the Pips
37. Billy Ward and the Dominoes
38. Dionne Warrick
39. Diana Ross
40. Earth, Wind and Fire
41. O’Jays
42. Luther Vandross
43. Hank Ballard and the Midnighters
44. Little Willie John
45. The Coasters
46. Ike and Tina Turner Revue
47. Bobby Womack
48. Martha Reeves and the Vandellas
49. Lloyd Price
50. Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers

51. Joe Tex
52. Solomon Burke
53. Lou Rawls
54. Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes / Teddy Pendergrass
55. Rick James
56. Donna Summers
57. Spinners
58. Little Anthony and the Imperials
59. Jr. Walker and the All-Stars
60. Commodores
61. Smokey Robinson
62. Janet Jackson

63. Chaka Khan / Rufus

64. Staple Singers

65. The Dells
66. Kool and the Gang
67. Ben. E King
68. Johnnie Taylor
69. Bill Withers
70. Delfonics

71. Patti LaBelle / The Blue Belles / LaBelle
72. Stylistics
73. Ohio Players
74. Minnie Ripperton
75. Meters / The Neville Family

76. Zapp / Roger Troutman
77. Chic
78. Anita Baker

79. Guy
80. The Intruders
81. Chi-Lites
82. Gap Band

83. Dramatics
84. Babyface

85. DeBarge

86. Brothers Johnson
87. New Edition / Bobby Brown / Bell Biv DeVoe / Johnny Gill / Ralph Tresvant
88. Teena Marie
89. R.Kelly
90. Keith Sweat
91. The Flamingoes
92. The Whispers
93. Jodeci
94. Gene Chandler
95. Tony! Toni! Tone! / Raphael Saadiq
96. Sade
97. En Vouge
98. LTD / Jeffrey Osborne
99. Maxwell
100. Boyz II Men
101. Mary Wells

102. Moments
103. Billy Stewart
104. Erykah Badu
105. D'Angelo

[Edited 12/23/10 22:37pm]

What do y'all think of the list?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

What do y'all think of the list?

I dig it.

When it comes to traditional R&B i go for Van Morrison and Otis Reddding.

Current R&B has nothing to do with traditional R&B: its about plastic pop, soulless music.

Jermaine Jackson?

Hmmm

My faves:

Donny Hathaway, Sam Cooke, Otis Redding, James Brown, Curtis Mayfield, Ray Charles, David Ruffin, Aretha Franklin, Nina Simone, Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson (Off the Wall), The Temptations, Al Green, Etta James, R. Kelly, The O' Jays, The Isley Brothers, Amy Winehouse, Prince, Janet Jackson (janet. and TVR), Marvin Gaye.

etc.

[Edited 12/24/10 12:07pm]

Some of you y'all just need to post this: