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Reply #1170 posted 12/10/10 2:10pm

motownlover

seeingvoices12 said:

paisleypark4 said:

Because people going around saying that these tracks are him will make his legacy go down in the tubes. They could make more and more fake tracks all they want to and profit off of it weather they give MJ co-writing credit on the track or not. Even his kids knew that was not him

what's the role of the estate in that situation? can't they prevent that happening and protect his legacy ?

Someone who met headquarters at sony said that they don't have enough material left, which means that sony don't have a full access to MJ's entire unreleased vault, they can use certain songs recorded during a certain period of time , maybe they had the rights to some old songs , and bought the rights to the fraudascios uncompleted fake tracks , hired an imtator to complete the incomplete songs and fool the public.....they don't want to miss an opportunity to cash in...

so sony paid 100s of milions of dollars for like 15 tracks lol

how are they going to finish 10 projects ?

this is it , michael' vision , that video game . and what are the 6 other projects ... off the wall 33 , bad 25 , invincible 10 , history 20 dangerous 20 and another greatest hits... what a bad investment from there part then

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Reply #1171 posted 12/10/10 2:16pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Thanks Tim! I also pull up Michael Jacksons BMI Songwriting Copyrights and notice that none of the Cascio tracks are there.. I checked ASCAP database also and do not see anything. Where are the publishing rights documented for this?

Exactly. I mean they actually thought they were gonna get away from this fully without anyone questioning it. lol

chile...I cant find any of them..

but I did find James and Cascios names on BMI affiliated with some other tracks by some artist named: STARLING DUAWNE FREDRICK through BMI...

Songwriter/Composer: PORTE JAMES

Current Affiliation: BMI CAE/IPI #: 433760660
There are 4 Work Titles
Work TitleBMI Work #
1. ANGEL IN DISGUISE 11784412
2. EXOTIC DANCER 11889608
3. SHINE 11835276
4. THINK ABOUT YOU 6469749
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Reply #1172 posted 12/10/10 2:17pm

seeingvoices12

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motownlover said:

seeingvoices12 said:

what's the role of the estate in that situation? can't they prevent that happening and protect his legacy ?

Someone who met headquarters at sony said that they don't have enough material left, which means that sony don't have a full access to MJ's entire unreleased vault, they can use certain songs recorded during a certain period of time , maybe they had the rights to some old songs , and bought the rights to the fraudascios uncompleted fake tracks , hired an imtator to complete the incomplete songs and fool the public.....they don't want to miss an opportunity to cash in...

so sony paid 100s of milions of dollars for like 15 tracks lol

how are they going to finish 10 projects ?

this is it , michael' vision , that video game . and what are the 6 other projects ... off the wall 33 , bad 25 , invincible 10 , history 20 dangerous 20 and another greatest hits... what a bad investment from there part then

not really, they already made over 100 millions from This is it alone .....lol

MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #1173 posted 12/10/10 2:35pm

BabyBeMine

Im not even gonna argue and can care less about insults. It's gonna be proven.

Until then and it's proven the lead and background vocals on "keep your head up is mj"

Focus soley right now on the CHORUS.....if you cant hear mj then your death

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

Everybody say that time is borrowed,
And hanging down your head is no good,
And if your day arrives…tomorrow
Just give yourself a chance,
Fight the circumstance,
Rising too, again!

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

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Reply #1174 posted 12/10/10 2:41pm

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BabyBeMine said:

Im not even gonna argue and can care less about insults. It's gonna be proven.

Until then and it's proven the lead and background vocals on "keep your head up is mj"

Focus soley right now on the CHORUS.....if you cant hear mj then your death

What?

Did you mean "then you're dead"?

Anyway that song is not him on that track. I know they meant well, but with the Earth Song acapella adlibs and all....no......it's to embarassing...it would have been a nice tribute to his legacy though...the song is not bad itself..it just needs to not have MJ's name on it.

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Reply #1175 posted 12/10/10 2:42pm

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BabyBeMine said:

Im not even gonna argue and can care less about insults. It's gonna be proven.

Until then and it's proven the lead and background vocals on "keep your head up is mj"

Focus soley right now on the CHORUS.....if you cant hear mj then your death

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

Everybody say that time is borrowed,
And hanging down your head is no good,
And if your day arrives…tomorrow
Just give yourself a chance,
Fight the circumstance,
Rising too, again!

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

No one personally insulted you, and you could careless because you cannot answer....simple as that

No one is denying that MJ worked with the fraudascios , there are 10% of MJ's vocals on each track , Not the whole track, 10% MJ, 90% is a bastard imitator

MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #1176 posted 12/10/10 2:46pm

BabyBeMine

Did you listen to the CHORUS again or not?

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Reply #1177 posted 12/10/10 2:50pm

CPest1

seeingvoices12 said:

BabyBeMine said:

Im not even gonna argue and can care less about insults. It's gonna be proven.

Until then and it's proven the lead and background vocals on "keep your head up is mj"

Focus soley right now on the CHORUS.....if you cant hear mj then your death

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

Everybody say that time is borrowed,
And hanging down your head is no good,
And if your day arrives…tomorrow
Just give yourself a chance,
Fight the circumstance,
Rising too, again!

Keeping your head up to the sky!
Keeping your mind stay alive,
Keeping your wings so we can fly,
Keep your head up, tonight!
Keeping your head up to the sky,
Are we could just rise up, tell me now?
Give me your wings so we can fly!

No one personally insulted you, and you could careless because you cannot answer....simple as that

No one is denying that MJ worked with the fraudascios , there are 10% of MJ's vocals on each track , Not the whole track, 10% MJ, 90% is a bastard imitator

It's possible MJ is mixed in with backing vocals, although I can't tell as they are quite layered, as for lead, I can't hear a word of mj in there, except for some woo's that have probably been borrowed from somewhere else.

And seeingvoices, I was almost tempted to personally insult Baby be mine just to contradict you! So tempting but I shall try and behave myself..

[Edited 12/10/10 14:51pm]

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Reply #1178 posted 12/10/10 2:52pm

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BabyBeMine said:

Did you listen to the CHORUS again or not?

MJ is on the chorus of this song , and the bridge , But an imitator was used to enhance the lead vocals , and its obvious....

as I have said, monster is the fakest track on the album....

MICHAEL JACKSON
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1958
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Reply #1179 posted 12/10/10 2:59pm

BabyBeMine

CPest1 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

No one personally insulted you, and you could careless because you cannot answer....simple as that

No one is denying that MJ worked with the fraudascios , there are 10% of MJ's vocals on each track , Not the whole track, 10% MJ, 90% is a bastard imitator

It's possible MJ is mixed in with backing vocals, although I can't tell as they are quite layered, as for lead, I can't hear a word of mj in there, except for some woo's that have probably been borrowed from somewhere else.

And seeingvoices, I was almost tempted to personally insult Baby be mine just to contradict you! So tempting but I shall try and behave myself..

[Edited 12/10/10 14:51pm]

All because i said give the CHORUS a chance. ok

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Reply #1180 posted 12/10/10 2:59pm

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CPest1 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

No one personally insulted you, and you could careless because you cannot answer....simple as that

No one is denying that MJ worked with the fraudascios , there are 10% of MJ's vocals on each track , Not the whole track, 10% MJ, 90% is a bastard imitator

It's possible MJ is mixed in with backing vocals, although I can't tell as they are quite layered, as for lead, I can't hear a word of mj in there, except for some woo's that have probably been borrowed from somewhere else.

And seeingvoices, I was almost tempted to personally insult Baby be mine just to contradict you! So tempting but I shall try and behave myself..

[Edited 12/10/10 14:51pm]

lol

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1958
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Reply #1181 posted 12/10/10 3:01pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

Maybe Militant can answer if sony has full access to MJ's unreleased vault and can use any song from it?

I actually do have some experience in this area due to my association with the Shakur estate and Tupac's unreleased material.

Here's the deal. Legally - the Estate own the rights to all unreleased work. However, that doesn't mean they physically own it and are able to release it. In order to have something to work with, the Estate need one of the following for every unreleased song, in order of preference:

1. Full multi-track masters (IE, every vocal track and instrument track individually)

2. 2-track master tapes (music on one track, vocals on another)

3. Isolated vocal track.

Now what's important is that we have absolutely NO idea how many songs the Estate does have the masters for. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they don't have many. Why? Because we already saw a report that specifically stated "John McClain was calling around producers to try and find songs".

Michael obviously had master copies of a lot of unreleased songs, but who knows what happened to them? He moved around a lot, some probably got misplaced or damaged. Perhaps he even had some in private storage and nobody has yet found where they were stored. Neverland was emptied after he stopped living there, but he obviously didn't take all his belongings to the Holmby Hills house because he was only renting it. Obviously he didn't take things to Bahrain, Ireland or Vegas because he wasn't in any of those places for any amount of time. Remember how there were reports of MJ's belongings being stolen? Remember how some of those private businessmen had roomfuls of MJ's belongings and were going to auction some of them because at some point MJ had owed money and stuff had been repossessed? No doubt some master copies of songs were among that stuff and are probably collecting dust somewhere.

It's certainly possible that he stored some at the family home in Hayvenhurst. Hell, most people store shit at their family home if they move around a lot. But ask yourself this - who would know if he did? Katherine's not going to spend time rooting through the attic looking through MJ's belongings. And if any of the family DID know - would they give them to the Estate? Probably not, because they're upset that they don't have any control over what the Estate does.

Who else would have access to masters and multitracks? The producers who produced the songs in question. Now here's the thing with that - they don't have to hand over what they have either. They can claim they don't have them - the Estate aren't going to literally raid people's studios, are they? Why wouldn't they hand them over? Maybe because they don't want things they worked on remixed to fuck and bastardized.

This exact scenario happened with Tupac. My friend Quincy "QD3" Jones III, had a song he had done with Tupac called "Soon As I Get Home" that had leaked online in approximately '98 or so. Not too long after 'Pac died. But he always said that he had lost the masters to that song so it was never released. Tupac's estate were remixing the fuck out of everything they were releasing (tastefully in some cases, not so in others), and then, in 2006, in the last few weeks of the Estate working on the "Pac's Life" album, QD3 "just so happened" to discover the master "in a closet" lol lol lol

The Estate, knowing how much fans loved this song rushed to put it on that album. And it was the ONLY song that was on that album that had not been remixed. It appeared in it's original form but in perfect quality. I've never asked Quincy directly, but I've always wondered perhaps he knew where it was the whole time but didn't want to see such a good song get remixed and ruined.

There's also situations where it might be a hassle for people to dig out stuff they have and so they just haven't gotten around to it. For example, Barry Gibb of the Bee Gees has at least 4 unreleased songs with Michael. He's a busy man, still touring, and I doubt he's in any hurry to dig out the masters of those songs from wherever they're stored. Not like he needs the money. And again, people such as him might want to finish these songs themselves if they were unfinished - if they just hand shit over to the Estate then they might not be given that opportunity even though it's their song as well.

Then you've got things like "Victory" and "There Must Be More To Life Than This".... two people worked on these songs, Michael and Freddie Mercury, and neither of them are here any more. The people maintaining Freddie's estate probably aren't gonna go digging around his belongings for the masters of these, either.

I'm sure most of you have seen the lists of unreleased songs that myself and bboy amongst others have posted. There's NO shortage of unreleased material that exists. So why is McClain having to call around producers looking for songs, and why is he having to resort to this bullshit Cascio fakery, and songs that have already been released like "The Way That You Love Me"?

The only logical reason is that, as I suggested, he simply doesn't physically have the masters of most of these unreleased songs. Some will turn up, given time. Others may not. It's all up to the individuals who have them. If they need the money, they'll sell 'em to the Estate. Others won't.

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Reply #1182 posted 12/10/10 3:09pm

Marrk

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seeingvoices12 said:

BabyBeMine said:

Did you listen to the CHORUS again or not?

MJ is on the chorus of this song , and the bridge , But an imitator was used to enhance the lead vocals , and its obvious....

as I have said, monster is the fakest track on the album....

And yet i listen to it alot. i..umm.. kinda like it. boxed

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Reply #1183 posted 12/10/10 3:11pm

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Militant said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Maybe Militant can answer if sony has full access to MJ's unreleased vault and can use any song from it?

I actually do have some experience in this area due to my association with the Shakur estate and Tupac's unreleased material.

Here's the deal. Legally - the Estate own the rights to all unreleased work. However, that doesn't mean they physically own it and are able to release it. In order to have something to work with, the Estate need one of the following for every unreleased song, in order of preference:

1. Full multi-track masters (IE, every vocal track and instrument track individually)

2. 2-track master tapes (music on one track, vocals on another)

3. Isolated vocal track.

Now what's important is that we have absolutely NO idea how many songs the Estate does have the masters for. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they don't have many. Why? Because we already saw a report that specifically stated "John McClain was calling around producers to try and find songs".

Michael obviously had master copies of a lot of unreleased songs, but who knows what happened to them? He moved around a lot, some probably got misplaced or damaged. Perhaps he even had some in private storage and nobody has yet found where they were stored. Neverland was emptied after he stopped living there, but he obviously didn't take all his belongings to the Holmby Hills house because he was only renting it. Obviously he didn't take things to Bahrain, Ireland or Vegas because he wasn't in any of those places for any amount of time. Remember how there were reports of MJ's belongings being stolen? Remember how some of those private businessmen had roomfuls of MJ's belongings and were going to auction some of them because at some point MJ had owed money and stuff had been repossessed? No doubt some master copies of songs were among that stuff and are probably collecting dust somewhere.

It's certainly possible that he stored some at the family home in Hayvenhurst. Hell, most people store shit at their family home if they move around a lot. But ask yourself this - who would know if he did? Katherine's not going to spend time rooting through the attic looking through MJ's belongings. And if any of the family DID know - would they give them to the Estate? Probably not, because they're upset that they don't have any control over what the Estate does.

Who else would have access to masters and multitracks? The producers who produced the songs in question. Now here's the thing with that - they don't have to hand over what they have either. They can claim they don't have them - the Estate aren't going to literally raid people's studios, are they? Why wouldn't they hand them over? Maybe because they don't want things they worked on remixed to fuck and bastardized.

This exact scenario happened with Tupac. My friend Quincy "QD3" Jones III, had a song he had done with Tupac called "Soon As I Get Home" that had leaked online in approximately '98 or so. Not too long after 'Pac died. But he always said that he had lost the masters to that song so it was never released. Tupac's estate were remixing the fuck out of everything they were releasing (tastefully in some cases, not so in others), and then, in 2006, in the last few weeks of the Estate working on the "Pac's Life" album, QD3 "just so happened" to discover the master "in a closet" lol lol lol

The Estate, knowing how much fans loved this song rushed to put it on that album. And it was the ONLY song that was on that album that had not been remixed. It appeared in it's original form but in perfect quality. I've never asked Quincy directly, but I've always wondered perhaps he knew where it was the whole time but didn't want to see such a good song get remixed and ruined.

There's also situations where it might be a hassle for people to dig out stuff they have and so they just haven't gotten around to it. For example, Barry Gibb of the Bee Gees has at least 4 unreleased songs with Michael. He's a busy man, still touring, and I doubt he's in any hurry to dig out the masters of those songs from wherever they're stored. Not like he needs the money. And again, people such as him might want to finish these songs themselves if they were unfinished - if they just hand shit over to the Estate then they might not be given that opportunity even though it's their song as well.

Then you've got things like "Victory" and "There Must Be More To Life Than This".... two people worked on these songs, Michael and Freddie Mercury, and neither of them are here any more. The people maintaining Freddie's estate probably aren't gonna go digging around his belongings for the masters of these, either.

I'm sure most of you have seen the lists of unreleased songs that myself and bboy amongst others have posted. There's NO shortage of unreleased material that exists. So why is McClain having to call around producers looking for songs, and why is he having to resort to this bullshit Cascio fakery, and songs that have already been released like "The Way That You Love Me"?

The only logical reason is that, as I suggested, he simply doesn't physically have the masters of most of these unreleased songs. Some will turn up, given time. Others may not. It's all up to the individuals who have them. If they need the money, they'll sell 'em to the Estate. Others won't.

Thanks for clearing that up..dude...great informative post .......
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #1184 posted 12/10/10 3:11pm

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Marrk said:

seeingvoices12 said:

MJ is on the chorus of this song , and the bridge , But an imitator was used to enhance the lead vocals , and its obvious....

as I have said, monster is the fakest track on the album....

And yet i listen to it alot. i..umm.. kinda like it. boxed

Monster? eek
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1958
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Reply #1185 posted 12/10/10 3:16pm

CPest1

BabyBeMine said:

CPest1 said:

It's possible MJ is mixed in with backing vocals, although I can't tell as they are quite layered, as for lead, I can't hear a word of mj in there, except for some woo's that have probably been borrowed from somewhere else.

And seeingvoices, I was almost tempted to personally insult Baby be mine just to contradict you! So tempting but I shall try and behave myself..

[Edited 12/10/10 14:51pm]

All because i said give the CHORUS a chance. ok

No not becuase of that, becuase it's frustrating seeing people ask you perfectly reasonable questions that instead of answering them you ask your own set of unrelated questions. As I have said before there are ways of having constructive debates, and they don't involve completely ignoring what the other person says or asks. Also stating things as if they are fact is usually a pretty silly thing to do.

But I am trying to keep an open mind and when you suggested listening to the chorus, I went and listened to the chorus and then gave my feedback. Not stating it as fact, as you can see above. as in "I cant tell" and "I cant hear." Not saying they are facts just telling you what I am hearing, be nice if other people did the same...

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Reply #1186 posted 12/10/10 3:17pm

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Militant said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Maybe Militant can answer if sony has full access to MJ's unreleased vault and can use any song from it?

I actually do have some experience in this area due to my association with the Shakur estate and Tupac's unreleased material.

Here's the deal. Legally - the Estate own the rights to all unreleased work. However, that doesn't mean they physically own it and are able to release it. In order to have something to work with, the Estate need one of the following for every unreleased song, in order of preference:

1. Full multi-track masters (IE, every vocal track and instrument track individually)

2. 2-track master tapes (music on one track, vocals on another)

3. Isolated vocal track.

Now what's important is that we have absolutely NO idea how many songs the Estate does have the masters for. I'm going to go out on a limb and say they don't have many. Why? Because we already saw a report that specifically stated "John McClain was calling around producers to try and find songs".

Michael obviously had master copies of a lot of unreleased songs, but who knows what happened to them? He moved around a lot, some probably got misplaced or damaged. Perhaps he even had some in private storage and nobody has yet found where they were stored. Neverland was emptied after he stopped living there, but he obviously didn't take all his belongings to the Holmby Hills house because he was only renting it. Obviously he didn't take things to Bahrain, Ireland or Vegas because he wasn't in any of those places for any amount of time. Remember how there were reports of MJ's belongings being stolen? Remember how some of those private businessmen had roomfuls of MJ's belongings and were going to auction some of them because at some point MJ had owed money and stuff had been repossessed? No doubt some master copies of songs were among that stuff and are probably collecting dust somewhere.

It's certainly possible that he stored some at the family home in Hayvenhurst. Hell, most people store shit at their family home if they move around a lot. But ask yourself this - who would know if he did? Katherine's not going to spend time rooting through the attic looking through MJ's belongings. And if any of the family DID know - would they give them to the Estate? Probably not, because they're upset that they don't have any control over what the Estate does.

Who else would have access to masters and multitracks? The producers who produced the songs in question. Now here's the thing with that - they don't have to hand over what they have either. They can claim they don't have them - the Estate aren't going to literally raid people's studios, are they? Why wouldn't they hand them over? Maybe because they don't want things they worked on remixed to fuck and bastardized.

This exact scenario happened with Tupac. My friend Quincy "QD3" Jones III, had a song he had done with Tupac called "Soon As I Get Home" that had leaked online in approximately '98 or so. Not too long after 'Pac died. But he always said that he had lost the masters to that song so it was never released. Tupac's estate were remixing the fuck out of everything they were releasing (tastefully in some cases, not so in others), and then, in 2006, in the last few weeks of the Estate working on the "Pac's Life" album, QD3 "just so happened" to discover the master "in a closet" lol lol lol

The Estate, knowing how much fans loved this song rushed to put it on that album. And it was the ONLY song that was on that album that had not been remixed. It appeared in it's original form but in perfect quality. I've never asked Quincy directly, but I've always wondered perhaps he knew where it was the whole time but didn't want to see such a good song get remixed and ruined.

There's also situations where it might be a hassle for people to dig out stuff they have and so they just haven't gotten around to it. For example, Barry Gibb of the Bee Gees has at least 4 unreleased songs with Michael. He's a busy man, still touring, and I doubt he's in any hurry to dig out the masters of those songs from wherever they're stored. Not like he needs the money. And again, people such as him might want to finish these songs themselves if they were unfinished - if they just hand shit over to the Estate then they might not be given that opportunity even though it's their song as well.

Then you've got things like "Victory" and "There Must Be More To Life Than This".... two people worked on these songs, Michael and Freddie Mercury, and neither of them are here any more. The people maintaining Freddie's estate probably aren't gonna go digging around his belongings for the masters of these, either.

I'm sure most of you have seen the lists of unreleased songs that myself and bboy amongst others have posted. There's NO shortage of unreleased material that exists. So why is McClain having to call around producers looking for songs, and why is he having to resort to this bullshit Cascio fakery, and songs that have already been released like "The Way That You Love Me"?

The only logical reason is that, as I suggested, he simply doesn't physically have the masters of most of these unreleased songs. Some will turn up, given time. Others may not. It's all up to the individuals who have them. If they need the money, they'll sell 'em to the Estate. Others won't.

They'll be finding things when most of us are where Michael is. Look at Hendrix, it'll never stop. People that have stuff will be shopping it around long after the SONY deal has expired.

Might be selfishness on my part but i want everything out in the next ten or fifteen years, it'll never happen though.

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Reply #1187 posted 12/10/10 3:20pm

Marrk

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seeingvoices12 said:

Marrk said:

And yet i listen to it alot. i..umm.. kinda like it. boxed

Monster? eek

Yep.

I can't explain why.lol

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Reply #1188 posted 12/10/10 3:21pm

mookie

MJ Estate Challenges Michael's Mom

The Michael Jackson estate has laid down the gauntlet by demanding that Katherine Jackson's business partner immediately stop exploiting MJ's image -- or else!!!
Howard Mann -- the guy who had been partnering with Katherine on numerous MJ ventures including her book "Never Can Say Goodbye" -- is now the target of a cease and desist letter ... obtained by TMZ.

The executors -- who until now have tolerated Mann's business ventures with Katherine -- have been pushed over the line and are demanding that Mann stop using MJ's image on banners to promote tonight's "Unveiling of the
Jackson Secret Vault Lithographic Collection" in Beverly Hills.

In fact, Katherine herself is scheduled to make an appearance at the event ... and even sign autographs.

The cease and desist letter -- which is often the prelude to a lawsuit -- is hugely significant because it marks the first time executors, along with estate lawyer Howard Weitzman, have gone after anyone directly associated with Katherine Jackson.

As we have been reporting, Katherine's unauthorized business ventures have irritated the executors who are trying to clear up Michael Jackson's debt and turn the estate into a profitable asset for the benefit of Michael's children.
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Reply #1189 posted 12/10/10 3:21pm

seeingvoices12

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Marrk said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Monster? eek

Yep.

I can't explain why.lol

eek confused disbelief lol

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Reply #1190 posted 12/10/10 3:29pm

Marrk

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seeingvoices12 said:

Marrk said:

Yep.

I can't explain why.lol

eek confused disbelief lol

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Don't think for a moment i can be fooled!

I don't think he's on there to any great extent, it sounds like a blueprint for an MJ song to me. You know how like comic books get the pencils done first by one guy, then the inker comes along and finally the colourist. Sorta like that.

sigh

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Reply #1191 posted 12/10/10 3:31pm

SamiDion

Is this a remix of 'monster' or is this the original because i went on youtube to search and the one i found , the beat sound dfferent but then i found this one on aimini and the beat at least to my ears sound diff and better and i hear mj voice on this, i mean backgrounds is someone else but i hear mjs voice. idk eek o and i LOve this song, its unique

http://www.aimini.net/vie...p2uDlDmaKF

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Reply #1192 posted 12/10/10 3:44pm

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Marrk said:

seeingvoices12 said:

MJ is on the chorus of this song , and the bridge , But an imitator was used to enhance the lead vocals , and its obvious....

as I have said, monster is the fakest track on the album....

And yet i listen to it alot. i..umm.. kinda like it. boxed

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Reply #1193 posted 12/10/10 3:50pm

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SamiDion said:

Is this a remix of 'monster' or is this the original because i went on youtube to search and the one i found , the beat sound dfferent but then i found this one on aimini and the beat at least to my ears sound diff and better and i hear mj voice on this, i mean backgrounds is someone else but i hear mjs voice. idk eek o and i LOve this song, its unique

http://www.aimini.net/vie...p2uDlDmaKF

no different beat, same fake singer

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Reply #1194 posted 12/10/10 5:41pm

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SherryJackson said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I'm NOT trying to start a war but...THIS

Prince is a BAD MOTHAfuckaSHUTCHOMOUF but I literally said to the screen, "take that damn ONE glove off!" and then when someone said "I love you!" he said "I love you back" then someone replied "I love you more!"...Hmmm

I KNOW!!!! I saw that too!!!!!! I was like... eek. Already pullin' an MJ too. GAH! But hey...I'm sure he didn't mean no harm. I thought it was actually kinda cute. And he brought back the PR shades too. touched...

Sherri was just goin' craaaazy though. lol

Sherri- I have wanted to make love to you forever...

Prince- eek Time to go!!

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Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach
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Reply #1195 posted 12/10/10 6:20pm

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Timmy84 said:

Marrk said:

And yet i listen to it alot. i..umm.. kinda like it. boxed

He's laying the smackdown on Sony lol

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Reply #1196 posted 12/10/10 6:25pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:

He's laying the smackdown on Sony lol

cool

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Reply #1197 posted 12/10/10 6:35pm

SherryJackson

seeingvoices12 said:

Marrk said:

Yep.

I can't explain why.lol

eek confused disbelief lol

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Now now, don't be hatin' on Marrk. I think Monster might have had potential if MJ ACTUALLY sang it and got rid of 50 cent (that part was absolutely terrible! disbelief). As it stands...I'm not too fond of it.

You know what song I desperately wish was real? Keep Your Head Up. It's just so positive and nice...I think MJ would've done it with ease. It's just one of those positive songs you can't help but like because of the message. At least for me it is. boxed I don't like as much as it is now because of the pasted-in adlibs and forced vibratos and so on..but I think that song really had potential to be a good song. More than Monster.

Oh Michael, come back!!! sad

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Reply #1198 posted 12/10/10 6:42pm

Timmy84

SherryJackson said:

seeingvoices12 said:

eek confused disbelief lol

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Now now, don't be hatin' on Marrk. I think Monster might have had potential if MJ ACTUALLY sang it and got rid of 50 cent (that part was absolutely terrible! disbelief). As it stands...I'm not too fond of it.

You know what song I desperately wish was real? Keep Your Head Up. It's just so positive and nice...I think MJ would've done it with ease. It's just one of those positive songs you can't help but like because of the message. At least for me it is. boxed I don't like as much as it is now because of the pasted-in adlibs and forced vibratos and so on..but I think that song really had potential to be a good song. More than Monster.

Oh Michael, come back!!! sad

Even if Michael sang on it, I wouldn't like it. The song sucks musically as well as lyrically. I don't think even Michael's lead vocals could've saved the song. Same goes for the other tracks. Like I said "Hold My Hand" is tolerable. I also wished KYHU was real, there's SOME Michael on it but not fully. But hey if people wanna believe it's him, let them knock themselves out. It's time to move on from this anyway.

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Reply #1199 posted 12/10/10 6:45pm

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For the folks that feel the new version of "Behind The Mask" is a little overproduced....

I've attempted to recreate what the original MJ version would have sounded like by filtering out as much of the music from the new version as possible, then blending it with the instrumental of Greg Phillinganes 1985 version, taken from the official vinyl release of the single.

It's still a work in progress and I wasn't able to make a full acapella from the new version, so it's kinda messy, but I did what I could.

I've posted a clip for you guys here:

http://soundcloud.com/s-e...e-mix-clip

Let me know what you think. If you guys dig it I can try and finish it.

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