midiscover said:

No, I won't recant my last statement. It's the truth. Beyonce takes credit from other talented writers and producers. This is what she's known for in the industry. Now stop with these stan deluded essays.

If she added a comma at the end of a verse she'll take credit. "I wrote this."

midiscover said:

No, I won't recant my last statement. It's the truth. Beyonce takes credit from other talented writers and producers. This is what she's known for in the industry. Now stop with these stan deluded essays.

That's not what's she known for. For one, if Bey was taking credit from writers and producers, their names wouldn't even be in the publishing credits. The worst thing you can say about her is that she shares credit. Secondly, the "bulk" of my "essay" (to you) are from quotes from people who ACTUALLY WORKED WITH ON THE TRACKS, like Deja Vu. It's just these things are going beyond your stereotype of what you think Beyonce is. On this board, Bey is a talentless bimbo, has nothing to do with the composition of her songs, who gets by in the industry because of looks, promotion and brainwashing and last but never least from this board, nepotism.

But when the truth is posted, some can't handle it. Most of the time, lyrics is not even what critics really focus on with her music and especially her peers. They speak on arrangements first. Like this critic:

But she contributes. No one says that she does it by herself. That would be OTT. But you want to believe what you want, so ok. But no one in here can say that these things weren't posted in here and that's why I do it.

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Curtwill1975 said:

Cinnie said:

Okay I can ride for a vocal styling argument, just not a "new genre of music" argument.

Beyonce probably couldn't write an amazing rap verse, but I bet she could spit one!

She did it on Kitty Kat. LOL.

No, the hell she didn't. Jay-Z did. There's even footage of both Jay-Z and Beyonce recording the song in the studio. He's telling her what to rap and she's all "oh umkay" in her bama country accent. You're giving her wayyy too much. Acting like she can be locked in a room and write a full song. Chile please! She's only good for taking orders.

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Curtwill1975 said:

midiscover said:

No, I won't recant my last statement. It's the truth. Beyonce takes credit from other talented writers and producers. This is what she's known for in the industry. Now stop with these stan deluded essays.

That's not what's she known for. For one, if Bey was taking credit from writers and producers, their names wouldn't even be in the publishing credits. The worst thing you can say about her is that she shares credit. Secondly, the "bulk" of my "essay" (to you) are from quotes from people who ACTUALLY WORKED WITH ON THE TRACKS, like Deja Vu. It's just these things are going beyond your stereotype of what you think Beyonce is. On this board, Bey is a talentless bimbo, has nothing to do with the composition of her songs, who gets by in the industry because of looks, promotion and brainwashing.

But when the truth is posted, some can't handle it. Most of the time, lyrics is not even what critics really focus on with her music and especially her peers. They speak on arrangements first. Like this critic:

But she contributes. No one says that she does it by herself. That's crazy. But you want to believe what you want, so ok. But no one in here can say that these things weren't posted in here and that's why I do it.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah etc. etc.

Stop. Beyonce and her shady ass father purchase writing credit from other unknown talents. Her tea has been clocked several times. She has been sued but she settles the cases out of court and slips a few millions under the table. Beyonce claimed to have written "If I Were a Boy" when it was later found out that it was a demo from an upcoming artist she later gave partial credit yet still acted like she wrote it. Irreplaceable? She claimed to have written that song, as she says "for all the a ladies", lmao. It is what it is. Arrangements? Do you seriously think it's hard to tell the audio engineers where to place the vocals and such? Lmao!

TD3 said:

midiscover said:

No, I won't recant my last statement. It's the truth. Beyonce takes credit from other talented writers and producers. This is what she's known for in the industry. Now stop with these stan deluded essays.

If she added a comma at the end of a verse she'll take credit. "I wrote this."

midiscover said:

Curtwill1975 said:

She did it on Kitty Kat. LOL.

No, the hell she didn't. Jay-Z did. There's even footage of both Jay-Z and Beyonce recording the song in the studio. He's telling her what to rap and she's all "oh umkay" in her bama country accent. You're giving her wayyy too much. Acting like she can be locked in a room and write a full song. Chile please! She's only good for taking orders.

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Re-read my post and note that what I italicized is what I respond to, meaning the "spitting" part. WE KNOW he showed how to do it and wrote it for her. AND IT WAS A JOKE, note the LOL. You are trying to hard. And BTW, she's NOT a rapper. I would take orders from one of the greats in that field if it was me.

Besides, that's different what she usually do. But since you mention her taking orders, I will quote from what her husband said because according to him, he takes orders from her too: Sometimes on creative stuff, one of us will ask, 'Do you think this is cool?'," Jigga told Rolling Stone magazine. "She's a magnificent A&R, if she ever decides to do that, for things like pitch. So I defer to her on those sort of questions. [But we] pretty much stay out of each other's business," the rapper added. Sometimes on creative stuff, one of us will ask, 'Do you think this is cool?'," Jigga told Rolling Stone magazine. http://celebrifi.com/goss...46818.html

And he's not the first say this when it comes to her instincts for music. I mean, the woman has an band. That alone, would let you know at least, she has some understanding in terms of music.

Curtwill1975 said:

Re-read my post and note that what I italicized is what I respond to, meaning the "spitting" part. WE KNOW he showed how to do it and wrote it for her. AND IT WAS A JOKE, note the LOL. You are trying to hard. And BTW, she's NOT a rapper. I would take orders from one of the greats in that field if it was me.

And he's not the first say this when it comes to her instincts for music. I mean, the woman has an band. That alone, would let you know at least, she has some understanding in terms of music.

Yet you're the one looking up quotes to post on here and typing essays to prove that Beyonce is a songwriter, oh okay.....

So because she has a band that means she has an understanding for music? You sound foolish.

midiscover said:

Curtwill1975 said:

That's not what's she known for. For one, if Bey was taking credit from writers and producers, their names wouldn't even be in the publishing credits. The worst thing you can say about her is that she shares credit. Secondly, the "bulk" of my "essay" (to you) are from quotes from people who ACTUALLY WORKED WITH ON THE TRACKS, like Deja Vu. It's just these things are going beyond your stereotype of what you think Beyonce is. On this board, Bey is a talentless bimbo, has nothing to do with the composition of her songs, who gets by in the industry because of looks, promotion and brainwashing.

But when the truth is posted, some can't handle it. Most of the time, lyrics is not even what critics really focus on with her music and especially her peers. They speak on arrangements first. Like this critic:

But she contributes. No one says that she does it by herself. That's crazy. But you want to believe what you want, so ok. But no one in here can say that these things weren't posted in here and that's why I do it.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah etc. etc.

Stop. Beyonce and her shady ass father purchase writing credit from other unknown talents. Her tea has been clocked several times. She has been sued but she settles the cases out of court and slips a few millions under the table. Beyonce claimed to have written "If I Were a Boy" when it was later found out that it was a demo from an upcoming artist she later gave partial credit yet still acted like she wrote it. Irreplaceable? She claimed to have written that song, as she says "for all the a ladies", lmao. It is what it is. Arrangements? Do you seriously think it's hard to tell the audio engineers where to place the vocals and such? Lmao!

LOL. Again, none of that is true. For one, Bey usually gets DEMOS from other producers and since they are the ones who give it to her, they would be the ones STEALING TBH. She has only been sued like 4 times and settled only once, btw that person gave the demo to the producer and he sued Bey as well as the producer and the rest of girls because all of them have credits to the song but he singled her out because he said she said she came up with the concept of the song (Cater 2 U). It was all about money. The other two times, got thrown out of court because there was no truth to it.

The only one that ever "stuck" was the Des'ree(Still In Love/Kissing You) one where I ironically she did change the song and wasn't allow to do that as well as make a video for the song. Note she didn't even sue for a lot of money(compared to the rest 185K) and her suit stuck and they removed the song from the CD. Also, the If I was Boy comment is again not true, she met up with BC Jean(BC Jean admits this in an e-mail) and Toby Gad(the writers). Bey does have production credits because she actually sped up the song a little from the original but no lyric-writing credit. BC Jean don't have production because Toby was the primary producer and he was the one shopping the song around.

And the Irreplaceable comment is again wrong because Ne-Yo said that she did the vocal arrangements to the song, therefore she contributed to the composition of the song and should share credit which she does along with Ne-Yo(Shaffer Smith), Stargate and Espionage. In fact, he didn't even make a big deal out of that("for all the ladies").

Look at this interview:

Angel: Ok, we want you to clear up this whole incident with the “Irreplaceable” song with Beyonce. We hear a lot of rumors, she didn’t give you credit, you talked about it on 106th.
Ne-yo: Yeah.
Angel: So what’s the real story behind that?
Ne-yo: The real story behind that is… it is what it is. I think what happened was she was in Japan or something and right before she sang the song she said, “I wrote this for my ladies.” My whole thing is this, I didn’t write, “let me love you” by myself, I wrote that with this cat by the name of [couldn’t pick up the name]. He is one of Scott Scorch’s writers. So when people ask, “Did you write Let me Love you” I say yeah, because I did write the song, I just didn’t write it by myself, but I did write the song. Same thing with Beyonce, she didn’t write the song by herself. I wrote the lyrics, she put together a lot of the melodies and harmonies and what not, which is what makes it a co-write. Now she’s at a show, the spot light is on her, I’m not expecting her to turn around and put the spotlight on me in her show. There have been incidents with her crediting me with writing the song with her before, but she just didn’t do it that one time and people really blew it all out of proportion. I know that she didn’t mean nothing negative by that. I know that is wasn’t on some “let me just let the world know that I wrote this song and he ain’t had nothing to do with it.” I know it wasn’t nothing like that, because I know Beyonce and she ain’t that type of person. Real Talk. So I just think that the world kind of blew it out of proportion. I want to thank everybody for riding with me on some “yo Ne-yo wrote that song.” But it wasn’t that serious.
Angel: Ok, thanx for clearing that up.
http://concreteloop.com/interviews-neyo

And I can do this all day. As I said, I was you, I would recant and back away from this "debate". But you want to believe what you want which is on you. As I said, everyone in the industry knows what she brings to the table and speak on it. The only tea that is "spilled" is spoiled gossip that never sticks. Think about that. If it was like that, and being a black woman especially, her career would be over because all producers would have to do, is not work with her anymore and work with others that they can make a hit with.

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midiscover said:

Curtwill1975 said:

Re-read my post and note that what I italicized is what I respond to, meaning the "spitting" part. WE KNOW he showed how to do it and wrote it for her. AND IT WAS A JOKE, note the LOL. You are trying to hard. And BTW, she's NOT a rapper. I would take orders from one of the greats in that field if it was me.

And he's not the first say this when it comes to her instincts for music. I mean, the woman has an band. That alone, would let you know at least, she has some understanding in terms of music.

Yet you're the one looking up quotes to post on here and typing essays to prove that Beyonce is a songwriter, oh okay.....

So because she has a band that means she has an understanding for music? You sound foolish

I am only doing it to show how people can believe what they want and when things are posted to them that go against it, they aren't even open-minded to think, "You know what? Maybe what I believe about so and so isn't true." I just use to be just like you in that I hated DC(especially Beyoncé) back in the day. Especially with her dad being her manager, I thought she was favor about the rest of the girls and that's why she was the popular one. But then I got into Bey's music(during the DIL era) and being the person that I am, I got into what she brings to the table with her music, and believe it or not, Kelly R. was the first one that I ever heard speak of Bey when it comes to her gift in arrangements, especially harmonic arrangements(Bey has a huge harmonic sound in her music). And then I heard other things and across the board, it's the same thing usually.

I had enough of an open-mind in understanding what her genre to say, "Okay. She's not Prince. She's not R.Kelly. But she contributes to her composition. She has at the least, some level of say so into what she wants her career to be." I never said that she's a big lyric-writer, that she will sit down and lyric-write, compose, and produce all by herself. No one other than a few. And it's a lot of work to do anyway. Why not get the best producers?

My issue is that people saying that she don't contribute at all to her work. You said that Amerie created her sound, for example, but I point out that Rich Harrison did it for her(and it wasn't even the same sound) and then you said that it belongs to her regardless. WHAT?!!! So this isn't about proving to you that Bey's a "songwriter" because in your eyes, you feel the way you do about her. I am just putting these things out there because this info is never brought out there.

Once again, you can continue to write useless essays (which I'm not even reading, lmfao). It won't change the fact that she has claimed to write songs she didn't write. The credits before the IIWAB demo leaked didn't have the upcoming artist's name. Just Beyonce's. She's a thief and that's what she's known for. Case closed.

midiscover said:

Once again, you can continue to write useless essays (which I'm not even reading, lmfao). It won't change the fact that she has claimed to write songs she didn't write. The credits before the IIWAB demo leaked didn't have the upcoming artist's name. Just Beyonce's. She's a thief and that's what she's known for. Case closed.

Show and prove. Give me facts, because the demo was released around when Bey's version was and the album wasn't even out yet. Fox News spread crap:

She had no idea Beyoncé had even recorded her song until a stranger called with the news... according to sources, she and her manager/mother [Lori Carlson] have been strong-armed by Beyoncé's people and others who saw gold in "If I Were a Boy" and didn't care how they got it... plenty of people knew the saga of Beyoncé's manager/father Mathew Knowles' aggressive pursuit of the publishing rights to the potential hit record. His goal was to get the rights to the song and to put Beyoncé's name on the writing credits.

and then he blamed Toby Gad too:

Altogether, I am told, B.C. Jean wrote and recorded about a dozen songs with Gad for an album the producer was planning to make of his own. When the deal fell apart, Gad — whose 300 plus credits are all co-written, never solo — took the songs and started marketing them to big name, established artists. Gad’s past "collaborators" include Fergie, on "Big Girls Don't Cry."

http://www.foxnews.com/st...42,00.html

Which was a lie. All of it, even the Bey and BC Jean has a deal to be on BC Jean's debut album, after all of this, all lies. And when the whole controversy came out, that's when someone e-mail BC Jean about the whole thing and she said, Wow why would you think that! I wrote every single word in that song... Sorry you feel that way but you are not correct. I lived through a terrible break up that was the most painful time in my life and wrote that from my soul.
That is my song my story and I will be releasing it as well. I own it I have the publishing... Everytime Beyonce sings that song I get paid... I even met with Beyonces dad with my manager regarding this...

Look it up before you speak of something you know nothing about....I am the writer and I still have the writer shares!

And I am not posting the e-mail source because it has the person's name, the one who e-mailed her. But how is Bey is going to be only one with writing credits and Toby Gad is also a writer of it along with BC Jean? Toby Gad is going to let that happen? It is logic and common sense.

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I actually like Beyonce and dig a lot of her music (although it's been more hit and miss as her career has progressed), so no hate here. I just can't believe this will only be her fourth solo album. From the time that DC broke big it seems like she's just CONSTANTLY been releasing albums. That woman definitely releases a lot of singles. She should be really grateful for this time in her life. Another couple albums and the label will be like, "nah, two singles is enough - next!"

midiscover said:

^

The sound used in 'Crazy in Love' was orginally created by Amerie, not Beyonce. There's nothing unique about Beyonce.

Actually someone back in the 70s had it and beyonce sampled it.

PoppyBros said:

midiscover said:

^

The sound used in 'Crazy in Love' was orginally created by Amerie, not Beyonce. There's nothing unique about Beyonce.

Actually someone back in the 70s had it and beyonce sampled it.

Here is another article clarifying she meant:

Recently Beyoncé revealed that she wants to make her "own genre of music" for her next album. So when MTV News caught up with the singer at the New York screening of her concert special, "I Am ... World Tour," we asked her to clarify what exactly it is that she's creating in the studio. "Well, I wouldn't say I'm inventing a new genre," she said. "I'm mixing every type of genre that I love and I'm inspired by every type of genre." Beyoncé went on to say that people should throw any preconceived notions about the follow-up to 2008's I Am ... Sasha Fierce out the window. "I'm not in a box," she said. "It's not R&B. It's not typically pop. It's not rock. It's just everything I love all mixed together in my own little gumbo of music." The singer says that quite a motley crew of musicians have inspired the album. "Definitely Fela Kuti, the Stylistics. How random, right?" she laughed. "So many people ... Lauryn Hill, Stevie Wonder, of course, Michael Jackson's Off the Wall ... all of those things I'm kind of mixing together." For the album, Beyoncé has been hitting the studio with many of her usual collaborators including Ne-Yo, Sean Garrett and Jim Jonsin. And her mom, Tina Knowles, has given the tracks she's heard so far her seal of approval, saying, "Of course [I heard it]. It's amazing. It's so amazing!"

http://www.mtv.com/news/a...once.jhtml

And here is the youtube video:http://www.youtube.com/wa...S6qU4lfdBs

PoppyBros said:

midiscover said:

^

The sound used in 'Crazy in Love' was orginally created by Amerie, not Beyonce. There's nothing unique about Beyonce.

Actually someone back in the 70s had it and beyonce sampled it.

"Definitely Fela Kuti, the Stylistics. How random, right?" she laughed. "So many people ... Lauryn Hill, Stevie Wonder, of course, Michael Jackson's Off the Wall ... all of those things I'm kind of mixing together."

so... Soul? That's not very random at all.

Cinnie said:

"Definitely Fela Kuti, the Stylistics. How random, right?" she laughed. "So many people ... Lauryn Hill, Stevie Wonder, of course, Michael Jackson's Off the Wall ... all of those things I'm kind of mixing together."

so... Soul? That's not very random at all.

Well, you know Bey, she says the darndest(I am using this grammar on purpose) things.

Unholyalliance said:

Beyonce said:

"... I'm actually in the studio writing songs...

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You ain't right

Curtwill1975 said:

Will they have to create a new section in the record store for Beyonce's "genre" of music?

Here's a great idea for a sign they could use to show where to find her CD at.

HonestMan13 said:

Will they have to create a new section in the record store for Beyonce's "genre" of music?

Here's a great idea for a sign they could use to show where to find her CD at.

"New Arrivals - Hop"

HonestMan13 said:

Will they have to create a new section in the record store for Beyonce's "genre" of music?

Here's a great idea for a sign they could use to show where to find her CD at.

Curtwill1975 said:

Actually, for the lane that she's in...this IS potentially ground-breaking because she does use MUCH instrumentation especially on her first two albums. I am going to need some of you to release to her songs again, because most of the time, Bey does use much instrumentation. In fact, look at this blog entry speaking of Beyoncé's music: Musically, Beyonce’s best work takes the Hip Hop-meets-60’s soul sound pioneered by Lauryn Hill, and makes it danceable, club-ready, and pop-oriented. Listen to “Crazy in Love,” Beyonce’s crowning achievement musically, and you hear many of the same retro-influenced elements present in Hill’s “Do Wop (That Thing);” particularly the raw, live instrumentation, and those insistent, Motown-inspired horns that anchor the song.(And yes, I know that they are sampled but horns are actually a big part of the Beyoncé sound, especially with her first two albums).

And while Dangerously in Love may be Beyonce’s most impactful album, B-Day is unquestionably her best, as she explores this interesting balancing act over the course of the entire record. Live instrumentation was employed for most of the songs on B-Day, as well as some sampling from 60’s and 70’s soul artists like Curtis Mayfield and Betty Wright, and they blend perfectly with a contemporary, fiery hip hop production style that gives the album a rich and musical, yet radio-ready personality; Ike and Tina-meets-Swizz Beats, if you will. Recorded in only two weeks, and comprised of just ten songs, the album’s brevity and clear vision give it a cohesiveness rarely found in most mainstream, pop albums.

http://www.blackyouthproj...e-beyonce/

So Bey's music, especially her uptempos isn't the "typical dance music". Imagine Madonna deciding to take the sound that Mary J Blige does and making it dance-pop. That's the Beyoncé sound(along with other things) and that's what sets her music apart. So if let's say Beyoncé take a song that's electro pop and add instrumentation to it, then that alone would set her apart because electro-pop is that, electronic dance music. So that's probably what she means. But of course, since this board don't like her and love to throw shade at her....

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Like A Prayer the album was recorded with all session musicans that were in the studio with Madge at the time fo the recording... she's been there doen that.

ehuffnsd said:

Curtwill1975 said:

Actually, for the lane that she's in...this IS potentially ground-breaking because she does use MUCH instrumentation especially on her first two albums. I am going to need some of you to release to her songs again, because most of the time, Bey does use much instrumentation. In fact, look at this blog entry speaking of Beyoncé's music: Musically, Beyonce’s best work takes the Hip Hop-meets-60’s soul sound pioneered by Lauryn Hill, and makes it danceable, club-ready, and pop-oriented. Listen to “Crazy in Love,” Beyonce’s crowning achievement musically, and you hear many of the same retro-influenced elements present in Hill’s “Do Wop (That Thing);” particularly the raw, live instrumentation, and those insistent, Motown-inspired horns that anchor the song.(And yes, I know that they are sampled but horns are actually a big part of the Beyoncé sound, especially with her first two albums).

And while Dangerously in Love may be Beyonce’s most impactful album, B-Day is unquestionably her best, as she explores this interesting balancing act over the course of the entire record. Live instrumentation was employed for most of the songs on B-Day, as well as some sampling from 60’s and 70’s soul artists like Curtis Mayfield and Betty Wright, and they blend perfectly with a contemporary, fiery hip hop production style that gives the album a rich and musical, yet radio-ready personality; Ike and Tina-meets-Swizz Beats, if you will. Recorded in only two weeks, and comprised of just ten songs, the album’s brevity and clear vision give it a cohesiveness rarely found in most mainstream, pop albums.

http://www.blackyouthproj...e-beyonce/

So Bey's music, especially her uptempos isn't the "typical dance music". Imagine Madonna deciding to take the sound that Mary J Blige does and making it dance-pop. That's the Beyoncé sound(along with other things) and that's what sets her music apart. So if let's say Beyoncé take a song that's electro pop and add instrumentation to it, then that alone would set her apart because electro-pop is that, electronic dance music. So that's probably what she means. But of course, since this board don't like her and love to throw shade at her....

[Edited 11/20/10 10:19am]

Like A Prayer the album was recorded with all session musicans that were in the studio with Madge at the time fo the recording... she's been there doen that.

I am not talking about that. I am talking about this: Imagine Madonna deciding to take the sound that Mary J Blige does and making that into dance-pop.

Curtwill1975 said:

ehuffnsd said:

Like A Prayer the album was recorded with all session musicans that were in the studio with Madge at the time fo the recording... she's been there doen that.

I am not talking about that. I am talking about this: Imagine Madonna deciding to take the sound that Mary J Blige does and making that into dance-pop.

Cinnie said:

Curtwill1975 said:

I am not talking about that. I am talking about this: Imagine Madonna deciding to take the sound that Mary J Blige does and making that into dance-pop.

That's not quite what I am talking about either. I know Madonna has done Urban Music or has had Urban Music in her sound. What I am talking about and I don't know how to fully explain this but this is the best way: It's more like what Jody Watley tried to do with New Jill Swing, but Bey/DC made it uptempo, dance-pop, radio-friendly Urban Music. Not just taking Urban Music and making it popish

Remember, that song you posted was out a while before MJB and LAURYN had an album out so I am talking about Bey taking THEIR template and also using the Madonna template and combining it. That's what I am talking about.

HonestMan13 said:

Cinnie said:

Should've known she only meant percussion.

Don't forget the "soul clap".

Oh my goodness, y'all are goin' in...

Curtwill1975 said:

Cinnie said:

You aren't creating a new genre when you decide to record something "pop" within an existing genre. We're lucky if her producers bought new synth modules. Maybe she meant "live" as in less processing or takes on her studio vocals.

Some of that(I did a lot of things differently this time with my album. A lot of it was [recorded] live, less production with the vocals, I didn't do as many arrangements... that was with the I Am side http://www.guardian.co.uk...the-decade) but more than that. That's why I posted that blogger's comment in my first post in here because on B'day especially, she did use much live instrumentation. Horns, keyguitars, drums, even acoustic guitar(Irreplaceable): Hermansen also said the sound is so different — using a combination of a classic chord progression on an acoustic guitar, a modern-sounding 808 drumbeat and cellos — that it could have doomed the song to not fit any formats.

Since on her last album, one CD is more acoustic driven( Totally! Her new album has more guitar on it but the previous album, that we did for the Experience tour, the B’Day album .. there is no guitar on that album. It’s all key-guitar, which was really cool for me because I got to come into the situation, write my own guitar parts and do what I wanted to do. She has never said she didn’t like it, so that was really cool. http://iwontstfu.com/inde...interview/) while the other CD was more electronic and modern and that will help her to craft already into another lane because most producers don't do this.

This woman gives herself waay too much credit and so do her fans. If she's not actually writing the music, recording the instruments during the sessions herself, and mixing the tracks she's not creating shi-doogie, let alone a creating a musical genre of her own. She's a vocalist, period.