Timmy84 said:

^ Correction: I read their wedding article on JET, she was 28 then (2005), she's 33 now.

She was born when "Voyage to Atlantis" and "The Pride" first hit the radio, which would be 1977.

I think his eldest daughter is around her 50s or something.

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Speaking of Ron's current wife, is it me or did she look bored as hell? Not because of the awards show, like bored with him? I don't know. Maybe I'm looking too much into it, but it just seemed like she was sitting there thinking "sigh, another one of HIS boring ass events". Then to see her up there singing backup while he was performing, and mind you I knew she was a backup singer anyway, but dang, you would think she would've been a notch higher as Ron Isley's wife to not HAVE to perform backup anymore...especially for him. Okay that's my rant.

Well, that wife didn't look too smart and she did look bored. But to me, it is the typical old musician marries sweet young thing sitch.

My observations:

1. Freddy Jackson looked tore up from the floor up.

2. Dionne Farris is no longer cute.

3. Lala Hathaway scared me.

4. Eryka Badu's performance was less than

5. El DeBarge's voice is finally cracking from all that crack

6. Ron Isley is too old to keep spending monies on these too young honies

7. I'm tired of Taraji and Terrence, lord can we get some new hosts.

8. Tyler Perry is getting BIG

9. Anita Baker looked fabulous, her sons looked fabulous, and her award was long over due.

10. Where was Niki Minaj?

11. Eminem had a lot of nerve not showing up and having Wolf Blitzer accept on his behalf - trifling.

12. R. Kelly's new song and his opening performance was the best treat of the entire show and I don't even like that panty freak anymore.

13. Ciara should have been there performing "Speechless'

14. Bruno Mars wasn't half bad

15. There were way too many chicken heads in the first few rows.

DesireeNevermind said:

1. Freddy Jackson looked tore up from the floor up.

It appeared to me that he has not been well. My heart goes out to him.

PDogz said:

DesireeNevermind said:

1. Freddy Jackson looked tore up from the floor up.

It appeared to me that he has not been well. My heart goes out to him.

My heart goes out to him too which is why I think he should have stayed his ass home.

There is no excuse for the state of black radio when you see what happened during that Anita Baker tribute. Dionne Farris, Kem, Rachelle, Lalah, Chrisette Michele….what true talents. And how cute was Goapele?

119 said:

There is no excuse for the state of black radio when you see what happened during that Anita Baker tribute. Dionne Farris, Kem, Rachelle, Lalah, Chrisette Michele….what true talents. And how cute was Goapele?

the two bolded artists

the others

DesireeNevermind said:

My observations:

1. Freddy Jackson looked tore up from the floor up.

Freddie BEEN lookin' sickly for a minute. My friend, former Orger Mistermaxx said Freddie is 76 years old

2. Dionne Farris is no longer cute.

3. Lala Hathaway scared me.

4. Eryka Badu's performance was less than

5. El DeBarge's voice is finally cracking from all that crack

6. Ron Isley is too old to keep spending monies on these too young honies

7. I'm tired of Taraji and Terrence, lord can we get some new hosts.

That dancing skit got tired QUICK

8. Tyler Perry is getting BIG

9. Anita Baker looked fabulous, her sons looked fabulous, and her award was long over due.

10. Where was Niki Minaj?

giving Wayne some "good to see you outta jail" head?

11. Eminem had a lot of nerve not showing up and having Wolf Blitzer accept on his behalf - trifling.

12. R. Kelly's new song and his opening performance was the best treat of the entire show and I don't even like that panty freak anymore.

I'm not a fan but I can honestly say he turned the shit out

13. Ciara should have been there performing "Speechless'

14. Bruno Mars wasn't half bad

He's pretty good. I'm enjoying his album

15. There were way too many chicken heads in the first few rows.

you KNOW they went to the mall and local hood clothing stores to buy their outfit like 3 hours before. Like they got off work from the Verizon call center went straight to the mall

DesireeNevermind said:

119 said:

There is no excuse for the state of black radio when you see what happened during that Anita Baker tribute. Dionne Farris, Kem, Rachelle, Lalah, Chrisette Michele….what true talents. And how cute was Goapele?

the two bolded artists

the others

I personally enjoyed her tribute, especially Kem and Rachelle's....gosh I love me some Kem...but Dionne Farris they could have done without.

DesireeNevermind said:

My observations:

1. Freddy Jackson looked tore up from the floor up.

5. El DeBarge's voice is finally cracking from all that crack

14. Bruno Mars wasn't half bad

15. There were way too many chicken heads in the first few rows.

Yes I agree with the Freddy Jackson comment, he looks so unrecognizable. I felt sorry for him, looks like he's been sick. If it's just a thing of him losing too much weight on his, then for God sakes Freddy put the breaks on!!!

I disagree with you about El Debarge...he was truly a breath of fresh air and I think he sounded great. Gotta love Eldra and he was especially looking delicious. Wonder where his FIONE bruh was at (Chico)????

I really enjoyed Bruno Mars' performance, I need to check out more of his music.

Umm yeah, where did all those porn stars in the front row come from?? I was asking that myself.

I didn't see it myself but as for Freddie "looking sickly", he's been that way for YEARS.

As for Kells, I'm not surprised he turned it out, when he really turns on the charm, he can wow you. I'll see it online later.

As for El, well after being on drugs for 15 years, we should be glad he still has a VOICE at all and still one SOULFUL enough to knock you out in a good way, plus he's almost 50 and a LEGEND so I'll excuse any "cracks". Least it ain't on a Whitney Houston level lol

Timmy84 said:

I didn't see it myself but as for Freddie "looking sickly", he's been that way for YEARS.

As for Kells, I'm not surprised he turned it out, when he really turns on the charm, he can wow you. I'll see it online later.

As for El, well after being on drugs for 15 years, we should be glad he still has a VOICE at all and still one SOULFUL enough to knock you out in a good way, plus he's almost 50 and a LEGEND so I'll excuse any "cracks". Least it ain't on a Whitney Houston level lol

Freddie came out on the stage all enthusiastic and shit. I swear he was gonna spin and fall back on one leg

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I didn't see it myself but as for Freddie "looking sickly", he's been that way for YEARS.

As for Kells, I'm not surprised he turned it out, when he really turns on the charm, he can wow you. I'll see it online later.

As for El, well after being on drugs for 15 years, we should be glad he still has a VOICE at all and still one SOULFUL enough to knock you out in a good way, plus he's almost 50 and a LEGEND so I'll excuse any "cracks". Least it ain't on a Whitney Houston level lol

Freddie came out on the stage all enthusiastic and shit. I swear he was gonna spin and fall back on one leg

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bboy you crazy.

Timmy84 said:

I didn't see it myself but as for Freddie "looking sickly", he's been that way for YEARS.

As for Kells, I'm not surprised he turned it out, when he really turns on the charm, he can wow you. I'll see it online later.

As for El, well after being on drugs for 15 years, we should be glad he still has a VOICE at all and still one SOULFUL enough to knock you out in a good way, plus he's almost 50 and a LEGEND so I'll excuse any "cracks". Least it ain't on a Whitney Houston level lol

El may have to pace himself bit, he was in Chi-Town a month or so ago and my relatives and friends said he was in fine voice, thin at times but nothing persistent. This is a 50 year old man he can't be sangin' 24/7 seven days a week. Nah, he ain't no Houston, she's done turn her over.

TD3 said:

bboy87 said:

Freddie came out on the stage all enthusiastic and shit. I swear he was gonna spin and fall back on one leg

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bboy you crazy.

I was on another forum said Freddie was an old school "queen"

He was so happy to get back on that stage and remind these new school gays who paved the way!

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I didn't see it myself but as for Freddie "looking sickly", he's been that way for YEARS.

As for Kells, I'm not surprised he turned it out, when he really turns on the charm, he can wow you. I'll see it online later.

As for El, well after being on drugs for 15 years, we should be glad he still has a VOICE at all and still one SOULFUL enough to knock you out in a good way, plus he's almost 50 and a LEGEND so I'll excuse any "cracks". Least it ain't on a Whitney Houston level lol

Freddie came out on the stage all enthusiastic and shit. I swear he was gonna spin and fall back on one leg

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OMG

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I didn't see it myself but as for Freddie "looking sickly", he's been that way for YEARS.

As for Kells, I'm not surprised he turned it out, when he really turns on the charm, he can wow you. I'll see it online later.

As for El, well after being on drugs for 15 years, we should be glad he still has a VOICE at all and still one SOULFUL enough to knock you out in a good way, plus he's almost 50 and a LEGEND so I'll excuse any "cracks". Least it ain't on a Whitney Houston level lol

Freddie came out on the stage all enthusiastic and shit. I swear he was gonna spin and fall back on one leg

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KCOOLMUZIQ said:

R Kelly was amazing!!!!!!!!!!

That lip synce mess bored me 2 tears.

Graycap23 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

R Kelly was amazing!!!!!!!!!!

That lip synce mess bored me 2 tears.

I didn't even watch the beginning or much of it so i wouldn't know.

I only saw the Anita and Ron tribute. Too busy watching sunday night football.

phunkdaddy said:

Graycap23 said:

That lip synce mess bored me 2 tears.

I didn't even watch the beginning or much of it so i wouldn't know.

I only saw the Anita and Ron tribute. Too busy watching sunday night football.

DVR.....the ONLY way 2 watch TV.

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bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I didn't see it myself but as for Freddie "looking sickly", he's been that way for YEARS.

As for Kells, I'm not surprised he turned it out, when he really turns on the charm, he can wow you. I'll see it online later.

As for El, well after being on drugs for 15 years, we should be glad he still has a VOICE at all and still one SOULFUL enough to knock you out in a good way, plus he's almost 50 and a LEGEND so I'll excuse any "cracks". Least it ain't on a Whitney Houston level lol

Freddie came out on the stage all enthusiastic and shit. I swear he was gonna spin and fall back on one leg

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Graycap23 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

R Kelly was amazing!!!!!!!!!!

That lip synce mess bored me 2 tears.

He lipped?

Graycap23 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

R Kelly was amazing!!!!!!!!!!

That lip synce mess bored me 2 tears.

It was live and you're just bitter

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

I didn't see it myself but as for Freddie "looking sickly", he's been that way for YEARS.

As for Kells, I'm not surprised he turned it out, when he really turns on the charm, he can wow you. I'll see it online later.

As for El, well after being on drugs for 15 years, we should be glad he still has a VOICE at all and still one SOULFUL enough to knock you out in a good way, plus he's almost 50 and a LEGEND so I'll excuse any "cracks". Least it ain't on a Whitney Houston level lol

Freddie came out on the stage all enthusiastic and shit. I swear he was gonna spin and fall back on one leg

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I really can't stand you

Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

That lip synce mess bored me 2 tears.

He lipped?

I think the remix of WAWL was lipped when he was dancing with all the dancers. He's not a good a lip syncer so it was pretty obvious that part of the performance was lipped. But the rest of the performance was live.

Timmy84 said:

Graycap23 said:

That lip synce mess bored me 2 tears.

He lipped?

He used a backing track on that performance. No doubt.

Watch it again.

Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

He lipped?

He used a backing track on that performance. No doubt.

Watch it again.

That doesn't mean he lipped The medley and original version of 'When A Woman Loves' were live.

trueiopian said:

Graycap23 said:

He used a backing track on that performance. No doubt.

Watch it again.

That doesn't mean he lipped The medley and original version of 'When A Woman Loves' were live.

Lol........that vocal was miked with a vocal track.

.......and it was NOT a good performance IMHO.

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Graycap23 said:

Timmy84 said:

He lipped?

He used a backing track on that performance. No doubt.

Watch it again.

Whatever he used, I was very impressed with his performance. And I haven't been particularly interested in R. Kelly since around 1993/94. After Sunday's BET performance, I'd absolutely be interested in seeing him in concert.

midiscover said:

Graycap23 said:

That lip synce mess bored me 2 tears.

It was live and you're just bitter

Lol............bitter? How so?