Any answer to my question about wait times to register with the library of congress fro copyright?

According to their website it can take 6 months and up to over a year.

Is it registered on the day it is submitted in their books, or the day that is approved. I assume there has to be some vetting process to ensure it doesn't conflict with any other copyrighted material.

Bboy seems to be our residence LOC expert - but if anyone knows I'd love to know.

Vanilli said:

Timmy84 said:

It's funny. It's like almost everyone associated with Michael was shady. Even the estate AND his family. A fucking mess.

So true. So sad but true.

Very sad and true. Is it any wonder that he didn't trust anyone in the end and that includes his own family. I can't imagine what that must feel like. The ONLY people that he could trust were his three beautiful children.

Damn, some of us should get jobs at these copyright registration places, we could dig up a lot lol

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Exactly

As shady as members of the family are, they're pretty correct on this particular situation

It's funny. It's like almost everyone associated with Michael was shady. Even the estate AND his family. A fucking mess.

You're just jealous of the first family of music. What do you have against them: is it because they're black? Is it because you're not part of the dynasty?

They tried over and over and over again but Michael didn't want to be helped. He had a darkside, like Tito told the Mirror. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. You can bring the horse to the water...

I wish the evildoers (McClain and Branca) would just go away. They're just leeches! Leeches! LEECHES!

MOL said:

Timmy84 said:

It's funny. It's like almost everyone associated with Michael was shady. Even the estate AND his family. A fucking mess.

You're just jealous of the first family of music. What do you have against them: is it because they're black? Is it because you're not part of the dynasty?

They tried over and over and over again but Michael didn't want to be helped. He had a darkside, like Tito told the Mirror. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. You can bring the horse to the water...

I wish the evildoers (McClain and Branca) would just go away. They're just leeches! Leeches! LEECHES!

paisleypark4 said:

MOL said:

You're just jealous of the first family of music. What do you have against them: is it because they're black? Is it because you're not part of the dynasty?

They tried over and over and over again but Michael didn't want to be helped. He had a darkside, like Tito told the Mirror. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. You can bring the horse to the water...

I wish the evildoers (McClain and Branca) would just go away. They're just leeches! Leeches! LEECHES!

its on now...

What?

I'm not one for drama.

MOL said:

You are completely right. The evil doers are out to, yet again, conspire against the Jacksons. They're just trying to destroy the family's unity. I guess those meanies are just jealous they aren't a part of the first family of music. They are not in the dinasty! And once again, the media is doing everything to bring the family down!

AGAIN!

But, we, we know best! We follow the dinasty! I mean...we do know about Randy's last twitter rant, right? It's so clear the evil doers are near. Be careful: the meanies are loose!

Go, go, go team Jacksons! Yet another consssssssssssssssspiracy! Mean media! Mean!

I guess you really are that naive then. How about this? Try rejoining this conversation when you've grown up some more? Until then:

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Michael Jackson's name over the past week has been thrown around like a shield of glory by entertainers. First, it was Justin Bieber who brought up MJ's memory at the American Music Awards. Saying that the King of Pop made music was it is today, we couldn't have agreed more.

Today Beyonce is claiming Michael Jackson is the big part of inspiration of her latest album. While she isn't a young pop star anymore it begs to ask the question, is Michael Jackson's memory being used in vain solely to sell albums? Beyonce could be a performer in her own right when it comes to selling her new album, letting the music speak for herself. Using MJ's name is an advertising ploy and it is really pathetic.

It is so disappointing this legend is being used for the purpose of making cash. Beyonce is the latest entertainer who has lined up professing love for the entertainer and claiming influence for a new album so conveniently on the shelves. The great entertainer has passed on and fans are so desperate to buy anything to do with Michael Jackson that anything that remotely 'swirls' around his legacy will be purchased. Isn't it obvious fans are being captured by this desperation?

For a young entertainer like Bieber to recognize Jackson in a way that doesn't imply any record sales is honorable. For others use throw his name out to get a few more bucks is deplorable. Their albums aren't really creations of Michael Jackson nor will the work ever be. In the end there is only one Michael Jackson. The rest are just lame entertainers who know that attaching his name has some serious value.

http://www.examiner.com/c...- 13070196

In 1988, a story of a security guard stopping Michael at Zales jewelry store

MyLuv229 said:

In 1988, a story of a security guard stopping Michael at Zales jewelry store

Another news report on the same story. Apparently, he was trying to buy a diamond ring.

MyLuv229 said:

Michael Jackson's name over the past week has been thrown around like a shield of glory by entertainers. First, it was Justin Bieber who brought up MJ's memory at the American Music Awards. Saying that the King of Pop made music was it is today, we couldn't have agreed more.

Today Beyonce is claiming Michael Jackson is the big part of inspiration of her latest album. While she isn't a young pop star anymore it begs to ask the question, is Michael Jackson's memory being used in vain solely to sell albums? Beyonce could be a performer in her own right when it comes to selling her new album, letting the music speak for herself. Using MJ's name is an advertising ploy and it is really pathetic.

It is so disappointing this legend is being used for the purpose of making cash. Beyonce is the latest entertainer who has lined up professing love for the entertainer and claiming influence for a new album so conveniently on the shelves. The great entertainer has passed on and fans are so desperate to buy anything to do with Michael Jackson that anything that remotely 'swirls' around his legacy will be purchased. Isn't it obvious fans are being captured by this desperation?

For a young entertainer like Bieber to recognize Jackson in a way that doesn't imply any record sales is honorable. For others use throw his name out to get a few more bucks is deplorable. Their albums aren't really creations of Michael Jackson nor will the work ever be. In the end there is only one Michael Jackson. The rest are just lame entertainers who know that attaching his name has some serious value.

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http://www.examiner.com/c...- 13070196

Fans get upset if entertainers dont show MJ luv and respect and they get upset if they do show him respect. Cmon Beyonce fans dont need MJ just to like Beyonce. She's been around since 1998 and has a established fan base. Her fans can really care less if she likes MJ or not. There still gonna buy her music. This is so weird.

So what if artist like Usher and Beyonce never mentioned MJ. Fans would get upset because MJ isnt getting any credit. These artist really dont have to every mention MJ is they wanted and there albums would still sell. Usher and Beyonce have established fans bases and the teeneger Justin even though im not a fan of his..Do you really think 15 year old girls care if he likes MJ? Like there thinking oooooooooh if you dont like Mike we wont buy your music..LMBAO

[Edited 11/26/10 15:45pm]

^^ I think the reader was referring to MJ fans buying their stuff. Prior to his death, other pop stars never mentioned Michael and refrain from any association because that was the trend. And now that he's gone, everyone is riding his d--k. I don't think they're adverstising their stuff with Michael's name in hopes that they sell better. I don't see it that way, but they're kissing his ass, for sure. It's just a new trend, and pop stars are all about following trends.

MyLuv229 said:

MyLuv229 said:

....The great entertainer has passed on and fans are so desperate to buy anything to do with Michael Jackson that anything that remotely 'swirls' around his legacy will be purchased. Isn't it obvious fans are being captured by this desperation?....

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http://www.examiner.com/c...- 13070196

Woah! Not this guy! lol

And on the whole "bandwagon" subject, I do agree that there is obviously an insane amount of proud MJ "fans" in hollywood who claimed their allegiance on 6/26/09 across Twitter pages and in front of any red light & camera lens they could find. But, to the credit of a few, the media, out of disinterest for anything Pro-MJ, muffled a sound byte here & there to keep things "fair and balanced" during the last 10-15 years.

Timmy84 said:

paisleypark4 said:

its on now...

What?

I'm not one for drama.

Swa said:

Any answer to my question about wait times to register with the library of congress fro copyright?

According to their website it can take 6 months and up to over a year.

Is it registered on the day it is submitted in their books, or the day that is approved. I assume there has to be some vetting process to ensure it doesn't conflict with any other copyrighted material.

Bboy seems to be our residence LOC expert - but if anyone knows I'd love to know.

Swa, you're right, they could've submitted it 6 months prior but I'm not sure. It just says it was registered 2 days after MJ's death. I gotta look more into it....

Unholyalliance said:

MOL said:

You are completely right. The evil doers are out to, yet again, conspire against the Jacksons. They're just trying to destroy the family's unity. I guess those meanies are just jealous they aren't a part of the first family of music. They are not in the dinasty! And once again, the media is doing everything to bring the family down!

AGAIN!

But, we, we know best! We follow the dinasty! I mean...we do know about Randy's last twitter rant, right? It's so clear the evil doers are near. Be careful: the meanies are loose!

Go, go, go team Jacksons! Yet another consssssssssssssssspiracy! Mean media! Mean!

I guess you really are that naive then. How about this? Try rejoining this conversation when you've grown up some more? Until then:

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the MJ Estate registered these tracks Michael worked on with Brad Buxer in 2009 and this year

Adore
Boy No
Changes
Days In Gloucestershire
Don't Be Messin'
Hollywood
I Am A Loser
I Was The Loser
Innocent Man
Jungle
Just Remember
Light The Way
Michael's Affirmination
Neverland Landing
Pray For Peace
Pray For Peace (Instrumental)
Rocker
Thank Heaven
World Of Candy
11pm
Bottom Of My Heart
Butter Funk
Children's Hour
Green Hornet Groove
King Tutankhamun
Lovin' You
Michael's Affirmation (Instrumental)
Pajamas
Photographs
Photographs 2 (Instrumental)
That
Walk Away
You Are There

I wonder what state these were in

bboy87 said:

the MJ Estate registered these tracks Michael worked on with Brad Buxer in 2009 and this year

Adore
Boy No
Changes
Days In Gloucestershire
Don't Be Messin'
Hollywood
I Am A Loser
I Was The Loser
Innocent Man
Jungle
Just Remember
Light The Way
Michael's Affirmination
Neverland Landing
Pray For Peace
Pray For Peace (Instrumental)
Rocker
Thank Heaven
World Of Candy
11pm
Bottom Of My Heart
Butter Funk
Children's Hour
Green Hornet Groove
King Tutankhamun
Lovin' You
Michael's Affirmation (Instrumental)
Pajamas
Photographs
Photographs 2 (Instrumental)
That
Walk Away
You Are There

I wonder what state these were in

It'll be interesting to know...

Timmy84 said:

Unholyalliance said:

I guess you really are that naive then. How about this? Try rejoining this conversation when you've grown up some more? Until then:

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Forest.

bboy87 said:

Swa, you're right, they could've submitted it 6 months prior but I'm not sure. It just says it was registered 2 days after MJ's death. I gotta look more into it....

Thanks Bboy - as it states it was an electronic registry which according to their website takes on average 6 months or more (sometimes sooner), so it looks likely that it was submitted several months prior to MJ's death - *maybe* in preparation of an album to coincide with This Is It that never eventuated.

MOL said:

Forest.

lol You reduced yourself to trolling now?

Swa said:

bboy87 said:

Swa, you're right, they could've submitted it 6 months prior but I'm not sure. It just says it was registered 2 days after MJ's death. I gotta look more into it....

Thanks Bboy - as it states it was an electronic registry which according to their website takes on average 6 months or more (sometimes sooner), so it looks likely that it was submitted several months prior to MJ's death - *maybe* in preparation of an album to coincide with This Is It that never eventuated.

I still wonder why they didn't register the songs individually. That one is confusing

bboy87 said:

Swa said:

Thanks Bboy - as it states it was an electronic registry which according to their website takes on average 6 months or more (sometimes sooner), so it looks likely that it was submitted several months prior to MJ's death - *maybe* in preparation of an album to coincide with This Is It that never eventuated.

I still wonder why they didn't register the songs individually. That one is confusing

Yeah like they're trying to cover up something. I'm kinda surprised it was put in the registry like that.

MOL said:

Timmy84 said:

It's funny. It's like almost everyone associated with Michael was shady. Even the estate AND his family. A fucking mess.

You're just jealous of the first family of music. What do you have against them: is it because they're black? Is it because you're not part of the dynasty?

They tried over and over and over again but Michael didn't want to be helped. He had a darkside, like Tito told the Mirror. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped. You can bring the horse to the water...

I wish the evildoers (McClain and Branca) would just go away. They're just leeches! Leeches! LEECHES!

You know that Timmy84 is black, right?

bboy87 said:

Swa said:

Thanks Bboy - as it states it was an electronic registry which according to their website takes on average 6 months or more (sometimes sooner), so it looks likely that it was submitted several months prior to MJ's death - *maybe* in preparation of an album to coincide with This Is It that never eventuated.

I still wonder why they didn't register the songs individually. That one is confusing

Something shady perhaps? But what?

bboy87 said:

Swa said:

Thanks Bboy - as it states it was an electronic registry which according to their website takes on average 6 months or more (sometimes sooner), so it looks likely that it was submitted several months prior to MJ's death - *maybe* in preparation of an album to coincide with This Is It that never eventuated.

I still wonder why they didn't register the songs individually. That one is confusing

The only logical explanation is because they were not finished. Not even close. So they got the impersonator to fill in the gaps in order for them to make money from the songs.

Militant said:

bboy87 said:

I still wonder why they didn't register the songs individually. That one is confusing

The only logical explanation is because they were not finished. Not even close. So they got the impersonator to fill in the gaps in order for them to make money from the songs.

That's what I'm thinking too. There's some Michael in there.....but how much remains to be seen