everybody trash joe and say he was such a bad father cux michael said joe beat him but look at the facts mike like seem like his life started hitting the dirt after he fired joe

his skin color started changing, the charges started happening, missing shows left and right just becoming biazarre as ever. while joe was his manager michael was as clean cut as they come. i love michael and always will but i cant help but think if joe was still in the fold would michael still be alive cuz joe seemed 2 have some control

I'm so happy this isn't in the official MJ sticky.

cbarnes3121 said:

everybody trash joe and say he was such a bad father cux michael said joe beat him but look at the facts mike like seem like his life started hitting the dirt after he fired joe

his skin color started changing, the charges started happening, missing shows left and right just becoming biazarre as ever. while joe was his manager michael was as clean cut as they come. i love michael and always will but i cant help but think if joe was still in the fold would michael still be alive cuz joe seemed 2 have some control

I think it was being around his brothers that kept him grounded, rather than ianything to do with Joe. I think once he stopped being part of the Jacksons as a group and therefore having practically nothing to do with his brothers, he went into freefall. Skin changes was part of vitiligo, which was proven by the autopsy, but most of the other things mentioned I personally believe it was to do with the seperation from his brothers.

I also continue to believe some of his very best music was done with his brothers, I take Destiny and Triumph over Bad and Dangerous anyday. His brothers seem to help him, psychologically with his productivity and creativity. Notice up to Thriller when he was still part of the Jacksons his album rate with the group and solo was practically 1 a year. After Thriller an album came out once ever 4 to 5 years. In the first 15 years of his career he managed to put out at least 15 albums, with the Jacksons and as a solo artist. For the last 25 years of his career he put out only 4!!

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Not one of us knows what was going on in any one of these people's lives so why the hell does anyone here think we should know what was best for them rather than themselves? There is some terrible presumptuous shit going on in this thread.

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Lock it baby. Lock it right. Lock it baby. Lock it all night.

You're such a trip. Really you are...

i dont understand why some fans get upset because the brothers wanted him to get back on the road, if he was busy touring and performing he wouldnt have time to hang out with creepy doctors or bring those little lying kids into his life. too much idle time is no good for anybody,especially someone like mj who should have been creating and performing music.

Mods, please lock this s**t up!

lowkey said:

i dont understand why some fans get upset because the brothers wanted him to get back on the road, if he was busy touring and performing he wouldnt have time to hang out with creepy doctors or bring those little lying kids into his life. too much idle time is no good for anybody,especially someone like mj who should have been creating and performing music.

I'm a Jackson Family fan, some people are just a "Michael Jackson" fan.

You know you can discuss the family at the MJ sticky. Did you really have to create another thread about it?

Timmy84 said:

You know you can discuss the family at the MJ sticky. Did you really have to create another thread about it?

Yeah, it'll be looked one it's spoted. We should see how long it'll last?

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

You know you can discuss the family at the MJ sticky. Did you really have to create another thread about it?

Yeah, it'll be looked one it's spoted. We should see how long it'll last?

Probably not long lol

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Yeah, it'll be looked one it's spoted. We should see how long it'll last?

Probably not long lol

It's been alive over 9 hours.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Timmy84 said:

Probably not long lol

It's been alive over 9 hours.

you know...

yall just keeping it alive...

just let it sink

wheter its his brothers, sisters or dad lets say his family when michael started building his own world and not allowing his family in they all complained of having 2 make appts 2 c him it just got 2 biazarre i love michael and his music but his family was all hurt by his distance and they still speak on it now

lowkey said:

i dont understand why some fans get upset because the brothers wanted him to get back on the road, if he was busy touring and performing he wouldnt have time to hang out with creepy doctors or bring those little lying kids into his life. too much idle time is no good for anybody,especially someone like mj who should have been creating and performing music.

Yeah... in a way you're right... but then again, you're not!

LittleBLUECorvette said:

lowkey said:

i dont understand why some fans get upset because the brothers wanted him to get back on the road, if he was busy touring and performing he wouldnt have time to hang out with creepy doctors or bring those little lying kids into his life. too much idle time is no good for anybody,especially someone like mj who should have been creating and performing music.

I'm a Jackson Family fan, some people are just a "Michael Jackson" fan.

But only musically right?

There's a couple of brothers i detest for who they are. i mean fuck a Jermaine and Randy. Fuck them in their stupid asses.

Timmy84 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

It's been alive over 9 hours.

Silly cunts in 'moderation' (look the meaning of that word up!) need to let conversation flow round here. IMO.

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Oh lawd ............ this bait up!!