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Thread started 10/11/10 3:07pm

DesireeNevermi
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HOW MANY RAP JAMS ABOUT ROXANNE WERE THERE?

I've heard there were like a dozen but I'm only familiar with these three:

(sorry don't know why it's not posting right) sad

Were there others? By who?

Which one was best?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOTp3-jEMjQ

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVy2LHKFG18&feature=related[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdGsXa-42m8&feature=related

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Reply #1 posted 10/11/10 3:13pm

JamFanHot

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Too many for my taste. I'd prolly just take the original UTFO track, IMO.

But according to Wiki (and this seems right to my memory as well)...

  • "Sparky's Turn (Roxanne, You're Through)" by Sparky D, a feisty female who criticizes Roxanne (Shanté, in particular) for being disrespectful toward UTFO, and for being too young, both for them to pursue, and to be an MC. Even though the record defended UTFO, they were reportedly not appreciative of this additional unauthorized response. It was after this that the saga really took off.
  • "Roxanne's Doctor-The Real Man" by Dr. Freshh, who also insulted Roxanne for having no class.
  • "Do the Roxanne" by Dr. Rocx & Co., which created a dance based on Roxanne. (Referred to Shanté's cracky wacky voice, as Sparky D had described it in her record). A rare instance of a record in the series not aimed at dissing someone.
  • "The Parents of Roxanne" by Gigolo Tony & Lacey Lace, which answered both UTFO and Sparky D. It drew references from both "Roxanne's Revenge" and "The Real Roxanne" as if both represented the true Roxanne.
  • "Yo, My Little Sister (Roxanne's Brothers)" by Crush Groove (no relation to Krush Groove), which answered UTFO, Sparky D, and Dr. Freshh.
  • "Rappin' Roxy: Roxanne's Sister" by D.W. and the Party Crew featuring Roxy.
  • Another record answered Roxanne Shanté by a young female calling herself "Little Ice", who told Roxanne to "make up her mind" if she wanted a man or not.
  • "Roxanne's a Man (The Untold Story—Final Chapter)" by Ralph Rolle, which claimed that Roxanne was actually a man who had been sodomized in prison, and then having "lost his manhood", turned himself into a woman after his release; and insulted UTFO for not realizing this.

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Reply #2 posted 10/11/10 3:17pm

DesireeNevermi
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OMG!!! That damn many?????

faint

And yet....I want to hear them. faint

Ok that last one is foul. Sodomized in prison? Did they really say that on the record? faint

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Reply #3 posted 10/11/10 3:17pm

DesireeNevermi
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Are these on YT? I only found the three I posted. Maybe I needed the titles cuz I only searched for roxanne roxanne.

doh!

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Reply #4 posted 10/11/10 3:39pm

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Most ARE on YT.....however....a bit more digging yielded THIS lil tidbit from an '03 article...

I was surprised to find an item on Allmusic.com claiming that there had been more than 100 Roxanne-answer songs — 103, to be exact. This would almost certainly qualify it, by an immense margin, as the most answered song in history. But Allmusic’s claim turned out to be nearly impossible to confirm. I found estimates by people who were making Roxanne records at the time that placed the figure as low as 20. Still, I felt something forming in my gut: I wanted — no, I needed — to find every Roxanne-answer track ever made.Despite its uncanny specificity (103?), I suspected the Allmusic figure was apocryphal. The ambivalent nature of the quest became part of its allure: no one knew how many there were for sure, and it was likely no one cared. Without much problem, I found a few of the easy ones — the original and various salvos from Roxannes Real and Shante — for a few dollars. I put together a list of every Roxanne-answer song I could find mention of and came up with more than a dozen, including "The Parents of Roxanne," by Gigolo Tony and Lacey Lace, a Miami bass duo; "Roxy (Roxanne’s Sister)" by D.W. and the Party Crew; "Roxanne’s a Man," by Ralph Rolle; "Roxanne’s Doctor (The Real Man)" by Dr. Freshh.

http://www.bostonphoenix....187231.asp

You could be in for quite a "listening party" lol


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Reply #5 posted 10/11/10 3:47pm

uPtoWnNY

Damn, she was fine as hell back in the day.......

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Reply #6 posted 10/11/10 3:57pm

DesireeNevermi
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The Parents of Roxanne. faint

I think I want to start looking this stuff up. The beat from the UTFO original is hypnotizing and i can't stop listening to it. Those guys were kind of cute too. Wonder what they look like now?

Both the Roxanne girls are pretty and their rap vocals are decent.

20 answer songs is bad enough but 103? Lord I hope it's not that many. I love a good rap beef. Does this qualify? Surely it does if they even bothered to make 5 answer songs yet alone one. lol

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Reply #7 posted 10/11/10 3:58pm

DesireeNevermi
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can somebody fix my links or tell what to do to fix them? I hate that the vidz aren't showing up here. sad

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Reply #8 posted 10/11/10 4:43pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

I've heard there were like a dozen but I'm only familiar with these three:

(sorry don't know why it's not posting right) sad

Were there others? By who?

Which one was best?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOTp3-jEMjQ

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVy2LHKFG18&feature=related[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdGsXa-42m8&feature=related

It was hard but I finally managed to fix it.

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Reply #9 posted 10/11/10 5:02pm

nursev

Roxanne got around didn't she falloff

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Reply #10 posted 10/11/10 6:40pm

Timmy84

That was an annoying trend. lol

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Reply #11 posted 10/11/10 9:42pm

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How about Sting & Pras? razz

You can take a black guy to Nashville from right out of the cotton fields with bib overalls, and they will call him R&B. You can take a white guy in a pin-stripe suit who’s never seen a cotton field, and they will call him country. ~ O. B. McClinton
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Reply #12 posted 10/12/10 7:20am

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The 12 Inches I bought were....

Roxanne, Roxanne - UTFO

Roxanne's Revenge - Roxanne Shante

The Real Roxanne - The Real Roxanne

Queen of Rox - Roxanne Shante

Sparky's Turn (Roxanne You're Through) - Sparky D

After that, I dropped it because they started making so many answer records that they wore it's welcome out and the records were becoming sillier and sillier.

Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #13 posted 10/12/10 10:09am

Timmy84

MickyDolenz said:

How about Sting & Pras? razz

UGH... do...not...remind...me of that shit. That was a low point for both Sting and Puffy. confused

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Reply #14 posted 10/12/10 10:12am

Timmy84

vainandy said:

The 12 Inches I bought were....

Roxanne, Roxanne - UTFO

Roxanne's Revenge - Roxanne Shante

The Real Roxanne - The Real Roxanne

Queen of Rox - Roxanne Shante

Sparky's Turn (Roxanne You're Through) - Sparky D

After that, I dropped it because they started making so many answer records that they wore it's welcome out and the records were becoming sillier and sillier.

I'm surprised MC Lyte didn't say "Roxanne is Dead" to just END it. evillol It would've made it better. I agree it was getting ridiculous. And I hated that both Roxanne Shante and the Real Roxanne came out of that due to that especially since they only used these names as retorts since neither of them were born with that name.

ALL because of that UTFO song and their supposed falling out with Marley Marl. confused

Like I said it was an annoying trend.

[Edited 10/12/10 10:13am]

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Reply #15 posted 10/12/10 10:33am

DesireeNevermi
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doh! neither of them were actually named Roxanne? That's actually funny.

I like the concept of "answer" records. Hip Hop would be a lot more fun if rappers did this today....instead of all those death/steal/beat/rape threats. shrug

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Reply #16 posted 10/12/10 10:56am

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JamFanHot said:

  • "Roxanne's Doctor-The Real Man" by Dr. Freshh, who also insulted Roxanne for having no class.

I had that 12". I thought that song was hot.

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Reply #17 posted 10/12/10 11:04am

Timmy84

DesireeNevermind said:

doh! neither of them were actually named Roxanne? That's actually funny.

I like the concept of "answer" records. Hip Hop would be a lot more fun if rappers did this today....instead of all those death/steal/beat/rape threats. shrug

Yeah Shante's name was Lolita. I forget what "The Real Roxanne's" name was but it was like Joanne Martinez or something like that.

Shante only agreed to do it because Marley Marl had beef with UTFO for dropping out of something so that's how "Roxanne's Revenge" came to be.

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Reply #18 posted 10/12/10 11:08am

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Timmy84 said:

I'm surprised MC Lyte didn't say "Roxanne is Dead" to just END it. evillol It would've made it better. I agree it was getting ridiculous. And I hated that both Roxanne Shante and the Real Roxanne came out of that due to that especially since they only used these names as retorts since neither of them were born with that name.

ALL because of that UTFO song and their supposed falling out with Marley Marl. confused

Like I said it was an annoying trend.

[Edited 10/12/10 10:13am]

THAT would been hillarious. I can just HEAR Lyte sayin it too (in that cadence & tone that only she has). lol

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Reply #19 posted 10/12/10 11:11am

Timmy84

JamFanHot said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm surprised MC Lyte didn't say "Roxanne is Dead" to just END it. evillol It would've made it better. I agree it was getting ridiculous. And I hated that both Roxanne Shante and the Real Roxanne came out of that due to that especially since they only used these names as retorts since neither of them were born with that name.

ALL because of that UTFO song and their supposed falling out with Marley Marl. confused

Like I said it was an annoying trend.

[Edited 10/12/10 10:13am]

THAT would been hillarious. I can just HEAR Lyte sayin it too (in that cadence & tone that only she has). lol

nod

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Reply #20 posted 10/12/10 11:21am

DesireeNevermi
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What's this about Roxanne Shante beating up KRS1? He's too big to beat up. He had an anser record too right...where he dissed her in a sexually demeaning way?

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Reply #21 posted 10/12/10 11:46am

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JamFanHot said:

Too many for my taste. I'd prolly just take the original UTFO track, IMO.

But according to Wiki (and this seems right to my memory as well)...

  • "Sparky's Turn (Roxanne, You're Through)" by Sparky D, a feisty female who criticizes Roxanne (Shanté, in particular) for being disrespectful toward UTFO, and for being too young, both for them to pursue, and to be an MC. Even though the record defended UTFO, they were reportedly not appreciative of this additional unauthorized response. It was after this that the saga really took off.
  • "Roxanne's Doctor-The Real Man" by Dr. Freshh, who also insulted Roxanne for having no class.
  • "Do the Roxanne" by Dr. Rocx & Co., which created a dance based on Roxanne. (Referred to Shanté's cracky wacky voice, as Sparky D had described it in her record). A rare instance of a record in the series not aimed at dissing someone.
  • "The Parents of Roxanne" by Gigolo Tony & Lacey Lace, which answered both UTFO and Sparky D. It drew references from both "Roxanne's Revenge" and "The Real Roxanne" as if both represented the true Roxanne.
  • "Yo, My Little Sister (Roxanne's Brothers)" by Crush Groove (no relation to Krush Groove), which answered UTFO, Sparky D, and Dr. Freshh.
  • "Rappin' Roxy: Roxanne's Sister" by D.W. and the Party Crew featuring Roxy.
  • Another record answered Roxanne Shanté by a young female calling herself "Little Ice", who told Roxanne to "make up her mind" if she wanted a man or not.
  • "Roxanne's a Man (The Untold Story—Final Chapter)" by Ralph Rolle, which claimed that Roxanne was actually a man who had been sodomized in prison, and then having "lost his manhood", turned himself into a woman after his release; and insulted UTFO for not realizing this.

spit Damn! lol

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