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Reply #720 posted 10/25/10 2:08pm

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confused I guess I'm in the minority when it comes to the LMP interview and their relationship, I really dont think their relationship was all that. They were only married for a year and a half and saw each other on and off a couple years afterwards (I dont believe it was 4 years like she said.) I dont think she was that big of a part in his life and I dont think he looked any more or less happier when they were together than when they werent.

As for the interview I think Lisa was somewhat honest, I think her accounts of what happened were honest in some parts and embellished in others. JMHO.

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Reply #721 posted 10/25/10 2:10pm

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SoulAlive said:

bboy87 said:

This is what I concluded

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin- Live

Jam- lipsynched using the album vocal track

They Don't Care About Us- lipsynched using album vocal track

Human Nature- Live

Smooth Criminal- mixed with the album vocal track and live vocals

The Way You Make Me Feel- opening part live, rest was album track with the pitch lowered

Jackson 5ive medley- Live

I Just Can't Stop Loving You- Live

Thriller- lipsynched using album vocal track

Beat It- mix with alternate vocal track and live vocals

Black Or White- Mixed with Live vocals and alternate vocal track

Earth Song- lipsynched with the original 1989/1990 demo track

Billie Jean- Lipsynched using the 1981 third demo

Man In The Mirror- Lipsynched using the album track

wow,he really fooled me eek I actually thought he was really singing most of those songs! It's clever the way they used "alternate vocal tracks" instead of the studio vocals from the albums.

I would say the majority if not all of those lip synch tracks were added in after the fact by Kenny Ortega and his team in order to give fuller and more "vocaly polished" performances for the movie. For instance the original trailer for TII featured a snippet of Billie Jean completely live.

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Reply #722 posted 10/25/10 2:33pm

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Katherine Jackson hasn't received 'a penny' from Michael's estate

Another chapter in the Jackson family feud is about to begin. On Monday, several Jackson family members are expected to appear in court for matters related to Dr. Conrad Murray, but other family members, specifically Rebbie and Randy, are expected to issue a statement in an attempt to distance themselves from a concert being billed as a tribute to Michael Jackson. Meanwhile, Katherine Jackson claims she hasn't received "a penny" from Michael's estate.

The concert, deemed a "money grab" by a Jackson family confidant, is being produced by The Jackson Family Foundation, which lists Joseph Jackson as chairman and Katherine Jackson as vice chairman. A draft of Rebbie and Randy's statement, obtained by Scoop, reads in part: "It has been bought to my attention that The Jackson Family Foundation is staging a "Legacy of the Legend" concert Nov. 13 in Atlanta. That show is being billed as a tribute to my brother, Michael Jackson. Reportedly, I and others are scheduled to perform at this concert ... I am in no way associated with this event or the foundation and I wish to make that clear because I do not want to be party to anything that could potentially pose legal or other problems now or in the future."

Why stage such a thing? Katherine and Joe need the money, according to the family friend. "Katherine told Oprah that she hasn't received a penny from the estate since Michael died," said the source. "What they (lawyers for the estate) have told her is that they have been busy trying to retire some of Michael's massive debt and they have maintained bills at Hayvenhurst and the kids' school." The source said that Janet Jackson has been helping Katherine financially in the mean time.

http://scoop.todayshow.co...els-estate

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Reply #723 posted 10/25/10 4:40pm

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There should've been a concert tribute to Michael by now, but it looks like there won't be one for some time

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #724 posted 10/25/10 4:46pm

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http://www.gigwise.com/news/59141/Mark-Ronson-Working-On-New-Michael-Jackson-Album

Mark Ronson is working on a forthcoming Michael Jackson album that includes unreleased songs by the star, it has emerged.

The producer's involvement with the album, which is due out next month, was revealed by Travie McCoy.

The Gym Class Heroes frontman told BBC Newsbeat: "I think Mark [Ronson's] actually working on one. He was telling me that he's working on one."

When asked at the Q Awards if McCoy's comment was true, Ronson replied: "He's a naughty boy. I can't talk. I don't even know if I'm allowed to open my mouth about that.”

Jackson had been working on a batch of new material before his sudden death last year.

Meanwhile, a previously unseen Jackson video is set to be included on a new DVD release which features his entire collection of music videos.

The three DVD boxset of 40 videos, entitled 'Michael Jackson's Vision', is due to be released on November 22.

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #725 posted 10/25/10 4:53pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Katherine Jackson hasn't received 'a penny' from Michael's estate

Another chapter in the Jackson family feud is about to begin. On Monday, several Jackson family members are expected to appear in court for matters related to Dr. Conrad Murray, but other family members, specifically Rebbie and Randy, are expected to issue a statement in an attempt to distance themselves from a concert being billed as a tribute to Michael Jackson. Meanwhile, Katherine Jackson claims she hasn't received "a penny" from Michael's estate.

The concert, deemed a "money grab" by a Jackson family confidant, is being produced by The Jackson Family Foundation, which lists Joseph Jackson as chairman and Katherine Jackson as vice chairman. A draft of Rebbie and Randy's statement, obtained by Scoop, reads in part: "It has been bought to my attention that The Jackson Family Foundation is staging a "Legacy of the Legend" concert Nov. 13 in Atlanta. That show is being billed as a tribute to my brother, Michael Jackson. Reportedly, I and others are scheduled to perform at this concert ... I am in no way associated with this event or the foundation and I wish to make that clear because I do not want to be party to anything that could potentially pose legal or other problems now or in the future."

Why stage such a thing? Katherine and Joe need the money, according to the family friend. "Katherine told Oprah that she hasn't received a penny from the estate since Michael died," said the source. "What they (lawyers for the estate) have told her is that they have been busy trying to retire some of Michael's massive debt and they have maintained bills at Hayvenhurst and the kids' school." The source said that Janet Jackson has been helping Katherine financially in the mean time.

http://scoop.todayshow.co...els-estate

Why should Michael be the only one to support his mother. Doesn´t she get some retirement money from the governemnt? Plus, she´s got 8 other kids to take care of her.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #726 posted 10/25/10 4:58pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Katherine Jackson hasn't received 'a penny' from Michael's estate

Another chapter in the Jackson family feud is about to begin. On Monday, several Jackson family members are expected to appear in court for matters related to Dr. Conrad Murray, but other family members, specifically Rebbie and Randy, are expected to issue a statement in an attempt to distance themselves from a concert being billed as a tribute to Michael Jackson. Meanwhile, Katherine Jackson claims she hasn't received "a penny" from Michael's estate.

The concert, deemed a "money grab" by a Jackson family confidant, is being produced by The Jackson Family Foundation, which lists Joseph Jackson as chairman and Katherine Jackson as vice chairman. A draft of Rebbie and Randy's statement, obtained by Scoop, reads in part: "It has been bought to my attention that The Jackson Family Foundation is staging a "Legacy of the Legend" concert Nov. 13 in Atlanta. That show is being billed as a tribute to my brother, Michael Jackson. Reportedly, I and others are scheduled to perform at this concert ... I am in no way associated with this event or the foundation and I wish to make that clear because I do not want to be party to anything that could potentially pose legal or other problems now or in the future."

Why stage such a thing? Katherine and Joe need the money, according to the family friend. "Katherine told Oprah that she hasn't received a penny from the estate since Michael died," said the source. "What they (lawyers for the estate) have told her is that they have been busy trying to retire some of Michael's massive debt and they have maintained bills at Hayvenhurst and the kids' school." The source said that Janet Jackson has been helping Katherine financially in the mean time.

http://scoop.todayshow.co...els-estate

not quite sure i believe that. the estate just filed papers with the court stating that it had paid the mortgage off on hayvenhurst and made certain improvements at katherine's request, that it had purchased a car for her, and had loaned her money against the future funding of her trust. they state that they intend to recoup the money when the trust is funded. the docs are at the tmz website (naturally).

moreover, cnn reported sometime ago that the court had approved an allowance of $26K for her at the time of mj's death, but that it had been attached because of that lawsuit that she, joe and jermaine defaulted on. it grew from something like $5 million to over twice that amount with interest over the years. the fact that the courts turned that money over to her creditors cannot be blamed on the executors. that was her mess.

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Reply #727 posted 10/25/10 5:54pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

Katherine Jackson hasn't received 'a penny' from Michael's estate

Another chapter in the Jackson family feud is about to begin. On Monday, several Jackson family members are expected to appear in court for matters related to Dr. Conrad Murray, but other family members, specifically Rebbie and Randy, are expected to issue a statement in an attempt to distance themselves from a concert being billed as a tribute to Michael Jackson. Meanwhile, Katherine Jackson claims she hasn't received "a penny" from Michael's estate.

The concert, deemed a "money grab" by a Jackson family confidant, is being produced by The Jackson Family Foundation, which lists Joseph Jackson as chairman and Katherine Jackson as vice chairman. A draft of Rebbie and Randy's statement, obtained by Scoop, reads in part: "It has been bought to my attention that The Jackson Family Foundation is staging a "Legacy of the Legend" concert Nov. 13 in Atlanta. That show is being billed as a tribute to my brother, Michael Jackson. Reportedly, I and others are scheduled to perform at this concert ... I am in no way associated with this event or the foundation and I wish to make that clear because I do not want to be party to anything that could potentially pose legal or other problems now or in the future."

Why stage such a thing? Katherine and Joe need the money, according to the family friend. "Katherine told Oprah that she hasn't received a penny from the estate since Michael died," said the source. "What they (lawyers for the estate) have told her is that they have been busy trying to retire some of Michael's massive debt and they have maintained bills at Hayvenhurst and the kids' school." The source said that Janet Jackson has been helping Katherine financially in the mean time.

http://scoop.todayshow.co...els-estate

Let's be realistic: why should the estate give Katherine some cash? According to the rumor, they already do their part (if not too much): they pay for the Hayvenhurt's bills and the kids' living expenses. Why would they do more? Why, exactly? Why does Katherine need more than that? Isn't paying for every damn bill in the house enough? I would do exactly the same the executors are doing. According to the story, they pay for what is needed. Not more not less. This according to the rumor. However, it was said, some time ago, that the executors do give Katherine some hundreds of thousand dollars, an action with which I completely disagree. Why does she need the money?

But we know why Katherine wants money. She wants it so she can support Joe and her sons' shameful lifestyles. That's what she would do with the money and that's exaclty why she wants it. It's clear Joe and her children are whispering in her ear, demanding to put their fingers in the pie. And the executors refuse to play that little dirty game. I don't blame them.

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Reply #728 posted 10/25/10 6:12pm

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Let's be realistic: why should the estate give Katherine some cash? According to the rumor, they already do their part (if not too much): they pay for the Hayvenhurt's bills and the kids' living expenses. Why would they do more? Why, exactly? Why does Katherine need more than that? Isn't paying for every damn bill in the house enough? I would do exactly the same the executors are doing. According to the story, they pay for what is needed. Not more not less. This according to the rumor. However, it was said, some time ago, that the executors do give Katherine some hundreds of thousand dollars, an action with which I completely disagree. Why does she need the money?

But we know why Katherine wants money. She wants it so she can support Joe and her sons' shameful lifestyles. That's what she would do with the money and that's exaclty why she wants it. It's clear Joe and her children are whispering in her ear, demanding to put their fingers in the pie. And the executors refuse to play that little dirty game. I don't blame them.

The executors are doing the job as they should and anyone with more than two brain cells would. If we believe this story, it's right to assume that they don't give her money because they know full well what she would do with it (give it to Joe and the siblings so they could burn it with their pimp lifestyles and, surprise!, that's exactly why she wants it). Besides, she doesn't need more than what she already gets. But this rumor strikes me as false (even though I'd love it to be true because what Katherine gets is more than enough for her): court transcripts obatined claim the executors give her thousands which is simply not right.

Besides, if Katherine hadn't entered in dirty dealings with Korean concert promoters that consisted in hunting her son so Joe and the siblings could make millions, she would have been receiving her money. However, hers 26000USD go directly to the Korean pockets to settle the debt she created and rightfully so.

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Reply #729 posted 10/25/10 8:07pm

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shit, they could make a black version of Dynasty off this family

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Reply #730 posted 10/25/10 8:47pm

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dag said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Katherine Jackson hasn't received 'a penny' from Michael's estate

Another chapter in the Jackson family feud is about to begin. On Monday, several Jackson family members are expected to appear in court for matters related to Dr. Conrad Murray, but other family members, specifically Rebbie and Randy, are expected to issue a statement in an attempt to distance themselves from a concert being billed as a tribute to Michael Jackson. Meanwhile, Katherine Jackson claims she hasn't received "a penny" from Michael's estate.

The concert, deemed a "money grab" by a Jackson family confidant, is being produced by The Jackson Family Foundation, which lists Joseph Jackson as chairman and Katherine Jackson as vice chairman. A draft of Rebbie and Randy's statement, obtained by Scoop, reads in part: "It has been bought to my attention that The Jackson Family Foundation is staging a "Legacy of the Legend" concert Nov. 13 in Atlanta. That show is being billed as a tribute to my brother, Michael Jackson. Reportedly, I and others are scheduled to perform at this concert ... I am in no way associated with this event or the foundation and I wish to make that clear because I do not want to be party to anything that could potentially pose legal or other problems now or in the future."

Why stage such a thing? Katherine and Joe need the money, according to the family friend. "Katherine told Oprah that she hasn't received a penny from the estate since Michael died," said the source. "What they (lawyers for the estate) have told her is that they have been busy trying to retire some of Michael's massive debt and they have maintained bills at Hayvenhurst and the kids' school." The source said that Janet Jackson has been helping Katherine financially in the mean time.

http://scoop.todayshow.co...els-estate

Why should Michael be the only one to support his mother. Doesn´t she get some retirement money from the governemnt? Plus, she´s got 8 other kids to take care of her.

it says janet has ben taking care of her. But if michael's estate is making millions why shouldn't his mother get an allowance?
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Reply #731 posted 10/25/10 9:02pm

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The late King of Pop made more money over the past year than any other musician or actor, dead or alive.

Michael Jackson never graced Forbes' annual Celebrity 100 list while he was alive. In death, the King of Pop earned more in the past year than any star on that list, apart from Oprah Winfrey.

It was enough to secure Jackson the No.1 spot on our 10th annual Top-Earning Dead Celebrities list. With gross earnings of $275 million, he earned more than the other 12 deceased stars on the list combined. Still more impressive: His estate's 12-month haul was greater than the pooled earnings of this year's two biggest living acts, U2 and AC/DC. Jackson's posthumous earnings come from his stake in the lucrative Sony/ATV catalog, the hit Sony film This Is It and renewed fan interest in music, videos and all things Michael Jackson.

The death of Michael Jackson really put a focus on -- crassly, quite frankly -- what someone's worth when they're deceased," says David Reeder, vice president of Corbis' GreenLight, which manages the personality rights for Albert Einstein and Steve McQueen, among other dead celebrities. "In a more positive way, it exposed consumers to this idea that there actually is a market for, and an enduring legacy for, these people."

http://www.walletpop.com/...3%7C179961

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Reply #732 posted 10/25/10 11:59pm

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I saw the Oprah interview with Lisa Marie on YouTube. My reaction after the interview was just confusion.

The person speaking did not even seem like Lisa Marie at all.

I felt like I was watching a completely different person.

Presley is the definition of what a true hyprocrite is.

All these years of bashing Michael, and now she's talking about him like he's the best thing ever- like the other hypocritical bandwagoners who started praising Michael right after he passed away.

If only Lisa had behaved like this a long time ago when Michael was going through the hardest points in his life, I would have thought a lot more highly of her.

[Edited 10/25/10 17:13pm]

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Reply #733 posted 10/26/10 12:03am

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mimi07 said:

dag said:

Why should Michael be the only one to support his mother. Doesn´t she get some retirement money from the governemnt? Plus, she´s got 8 other kids to take care of her.

it says janet has ben taking care of her. But if michael's estate is making millions why shouldn't his mother get an allowance?

Katherine already has her luxurious house expenses (staff, bills, etc) paid. Why does she need more money? Isn't that enough? It's clear many people have their hands out.

Secondly; she would be able to enjoy a monthly allowance if she hadn't created a debt with a Korean newspaper. Therefore, all the money that was supposed to go to her goes directly to that newspaper so the debt can be settled. To sum up, Katherine does receive an allowance but it is used to pay off a debt and rightfully so. If she hadn't made dirty dealings to please Joe at Michael's expense...

Third; the estate does give Katherine a lot of money as was proved by court transcripts last month. Why does she need the money? We all know, but we're afraid of saying simply because she's Michael's beloved mother.

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Reply #734 posted 10/26/10 12:12am

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Its a shame that Jacksons first posthumous album will consist of tracks "re-touched" by session players/producers. To me, this is not good news. Look at "for all time". Mike redid the middle 8 on that and made it worse LOL. The original near finished demo that leaked around 2002 was and still is beautiful, but not the "thriller 25" version.

I just generally don't like it when they do this. A shame, and hopefully the whole album won't be like this. Just release stuff that Jackson had finished/nearly finished and release them just as they are! When Sony run out of material then they can re-touch them up, but already? And WTF at Mark Ronson? He'll probably just dump some oh so hip 60's horns on it and completely cock it up! Not good news.

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Reply #735 posted 10/26/10 12:23am

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I saw the Oprah interview with Lisa Marie on YouTube. My reaction after the interview was just confusion.

The person speaking did not even seem like Lisa Marie at all.

I felt like I was watching a completely different person.

Presley is the definition of what a true hyprocrite is.

All these years o bashing michael, and now she's talking about him like the other hypocritical bandwagoners who started praising Michael right after he passed away.

If only Lisa had behaved like this a long time ago, I would have thought a lot more highly of her.

She disappointed me.

At least Tatiana was always there for Michael.

i think what happened with her is that so many people - from her mother, to elvis' friends and fans, to the press - convinced her that she was too good for him, for any number of reasons, ranging from the allegations, to the belief that mj was nowhere in elvis' league (a belief which has been put to rest especially considering the forbes list released today), to sadly, race. there is a clip on you tube of some elvis crony talking about how elvis would not have been happy that his daughter married a black man. now he could have been using elvis as a convenient excuse for his own racism, since elvis isn't here to defend himself, but there it is.

in her last interview with oprah, priscilla was there too opining that mj was just lusting after her daughter as a feather in his cap, desperate to have kids with 'the king's daughter' to enhance his status, as if mj would need anyone to enhance his status. no one aside from elvis and the beatles had generated as much excitement as mj. yet, here's priscilla acting as if mj had no accomplishments on his own to be proud of, that he was just some n***** sniffing around her daughter. that's how her comments came across to me, anyway.

lmp probably sees all of that now. she knows she threw him away, not because she really wanted to, but because other people convinced her to. while mj may have made a lot of mistakes in their marriage, he wasn't worthy of the outright contempt that she showed him. and she knows it.

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Reply #736 posted 10/26/10 12:31am

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thesexofit said:

Its a shame that Jacksons first posthumous album will consist of tracks "re-touched" by session players/producers. To me, this is not good news. Look at "for all time". Mike redid the middle 8 on that and made it worse LOL. The original near finished demo that leaked around 2002 was and still is beautiful, but not the "thriller 25" version.

I just generally don't like it when they do this. A shame, and hopefully the whole album won't be like this. Just release stuff that Jackson had finished/nearly finished and release them just as they are! When Sony run out of material then they can re-touch them up, but already? And WTF at Mark Ronson? He'll probably just dump some oh so hip 60's horns on it and completely cock it up! Not good news.

I have a feeling this album is going to be crap because outsiders are going to come in and change it up. I was never excited about this and I don’t like posthumous albums I don’t even buy the 2 pac ones. It's not the same to me , just have a random person throw any kind of songs on there I rather listen to the albums the artist had a hand with.

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Reply #737 posted 10/26/10 12:34am

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suga10 said:

I saw the Oprah interview with Lisa Marie on YouTube. My reaction after the interview was just confusion.

The person speaking did not even seem like Lisa Marie at all.

I felt like I was watching a completely different person.

Presley is the definition of what a true hyprocrite is.

All these years of bashing Michael, and now she's talking about him like he's the best thing ever- like the other hypocritical bandwagoners who started praising Michael right after he passed away.

If only Lisa had behaved like this a long time ago when Michael was going through the hardest points in his life, I would have thought a lot more highly of her.

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unless we see footage of somebody saying... anything, what we read about alleged quotes (espeically if given by an unnamed "source" or "close friend") has got to be taken with a grain of salt..

and even if she did say something unkind.. have you ever experienced a a terrible breakup with someone and said one thing about them, but felt another?

or come to some clarity on your complex feelings - most unfortunately - after it was too late, after some sort of tragedy?

If not.. consider yourself lucky. smile

anybody that wasn't actually there and witnessed what went on between that couple is really just goin' on speculation and rumor... and it's not fair to either person, her or MJ, IMHO.

as for her behavior now compared to "when he needed it" ~ tell me something... honestly.. if your spouse would tell you stuff like "have my baby, or I got this other chick @ my doctor's office who keeps offering to do it" [and who knows what else] ... how would you react?

I mean, I don't think he did it to be mean, but.. after that interview.. I had flashbacks to a relationship with a guy born the same week.... that charming Type-A, "my way, or the highway" Virgo "control freak" [however great the intentions are..] kind of guy is ***not*** easy to live with.. I can't even tell you... lol hmph! lol

I'm not taking her side over Michael's or anything, but, there's 2 sides to every story... and both of 'em are/were human... and humans make mistakes. shrug we just gotta hope we learn from them - or the ones others make as examples... smile

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Reply #738 posted 10/26/10 12:51am

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babybugz said:

thesexofit said:

Its a shame that Jacksons first posthumous album will consist of tracks "re-touched" by session players/producers. To me, this is not good news. Look at "for all time". Mike redid the middle 8 on that and made it worse LOL. The original near finished demo that leaked around 2002 was and still is beautiful, but not the "thriller 25" version.

I just generally don't like it when they do this. A shame, and hopefully the whole album won't be like this. Just release stuff that Jackson had finished/nearly finished and release them just as they are! When Sony run out of material then they can re-touch them up, but already? And WTF at Mark Ronson? He'll probably just dump some oh so hip 60's horns on it and completely cock it up! Not good news.

I have a feeling this album is going to be crap because outsiders are going to come in and change it up. I was never excited about this and I don’t like posthumous albums I don’t even buy the 2 pac ones. It's not the same to me , just have a random person throw any kind of songs on there I rather listen to the albums the artist had a hand with.

LOL at Tupac. He's released more albums dead then when he was alive. Gotta admit I still love "changes". And as I love "broken wings", I dig the moody production of "'till the end of time". Other then them 2, Iam not too interested in is posthumous stuff.

I wish someone like Universal outbid Sony for the rights. We all know they are going to yet again re-issue his classic Epic albums with a few new tracks. No doubt I'll buy them as Iam a sucker for unreleased tracks but I know it will be a tacky way to make more money.

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Reply #739 posted 10/26/10 12:52am

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i love this song/performance
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Reply #740 posted 10/26/10 12:53am

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Yes I'm sure MJ wasn't an easy person to be around. He was a complex individual.

In no way am I saying Michael was the perfect man- he is full of flaws himself, and so was Lisa.

I can understand the anger that people go through after a breakup.

However this interview was the ultimate straw regarding my feelings on Lisa Marie. For her to have behaved like she did here in this interview- I lost my respect for her.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/wa...ImhVa7nKEk[/youtube]

[Edited 10/25/10 18:05pm]

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Reply #741 posted 10/26/10 1:25am

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Yes I'm sure MJ wasn't an easy person to be around. He was a complex individual.

In no way am I saying Michael was the perfect man- he is full of flaws himself, and so was Lisa.

I can understand the anger that people go through after a breakup.

However this interview was the ultimate straw regarding my feelings on Lisa Marie. For her to have behaved like she did here in this interview- I lost my respect for her.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/wa...ImhVa7nKEk[/youtube]

[Edited 10/25/10 18:05pm]

You can't really fault her though, she was doing what she always did, tap dance around the subject.

I mean in every interview they give her its always the MJ bomb. Thats gotta hurt your ego, especially if they were not on speaking terms. She just numbed herself out. Having been in a relationship that has gone sour. I probably would've done worse.

When you end a relationship, it's like all your hopes and dreams come crashing down ontop of you and you become embittered for a while, than the bitterness turns into numbness. Thats gotta be 100 times worse when your ex happens to be a high profile eccentric artist, who is hated and loved by many. i know from experience never trust the surface value of a relationship.

Because only those two people truly know what's happening.

She's never said anything out of malice, though which impressed me.

Because I know i'd be spitting fire.

Least for the first few years, heh

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Reply #742 posted 10/26/10 1:42am

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With all new albums I would like to see the producers who worked with MJ on the tracks do the work to put the finishing touches to it. People in the actual recording and production. This would help at least give them a better insight into what Michael was aiming for.

So far those working on it all seem to be people who MJ did sessions with so I expect them to remain true to what those songs were intended to sound like. As for Mark Ronson, he was a friend of Michael's so maybe they did a song or two together, who knows.

But keep it to the people involved in the projects initially I say.

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Reply #743 posted 10/26/10 2:01am

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EmbattledWarrior said:

suga10 said:

Yes I'm sure MJ wasn't an easy person to be around. He was a complex individual.

In no way am I saying Michael was the perfect man- he is full of flaws himself, and so was Lisa.

I can understand the anger that people go through after a breakup.

However this interview was the ultimate straw regarding my feelings on Lisa Marie. For her to have behaved like she did here in this interview- I lost my respect for her.

[Edited 10/25/10 18:05pm]

You can't really fault her though, she was doing what she always did, tap dance around the subject.

I mean in every interview they give her its always the MJ bomb. Thats gotta hurt your ego, especially if they were not on speaking terms. She just numbed herself out. Having been in a relationship that has gone sour. I probably would've done worse.

When you end a relationship, it's like all your hopes and dreams come crashing down ontop of you and you become embittered for a while, than the bitterness turns into numbness. Thats gotta be 100 times worse when your ex happens to be a high profile eccentric artist, who is hated and loved by many. i know from experience never trust the surface value of a relationship.

Because only those two people truly know what's happening.

She's never said anything out of malice, though which impressed me.

Because I know i'd be spitting fire.

Least for the first few years, heh

yeahthat -- wasn't that Larry King clip during the trial? I'm not surprised; she could have been on a witness list, or potential list... she wouldn't - probably couldn't - say anything shrug

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Reply #744 posted 10/26/10 3:01am

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NaughtyKitty said:

confused I guess I'm in the minority when it comes to the LMP interview and their relationship, I really dont think their relationship was all that. They were only married for a year and a half and saw each other on and off a couple years afterwards (I dont believe it was 4 years like she said.) I dont think she was that big of a part in his life and I dont think he looked any more or less happier when they were together than when they werent.

As for the interview I think Lisa was somewhat honest, I think her accounts of what happened were honest in some parts and embellished in others. JMHO.

You are not alone. I think majority of fans are indifferent and then there are some who took LMP's interview and re-wrote the MJ/LMP romance. Also, she never said they were together for 4 years after the divorce. She said after the divorce, they kept in touch the next 4 years getting back together and breaking up. However, I'm more inclined to believe she was making the effort, not him. She started dating some rocker at the time, but wasn't moving on. She admitted she flew around the world to be with him. I think fans misunderstood this part. I believe Michael's account in the Shmuley tapes more than I believe her.

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Reply #745 posted 10/26/10 3:12am

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Reply #746 posted 10/26/10 3:22am

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MyLuv229 said:

The amount of times I paused on this when watching the bonus features to look at the setlist and what the extra props were like Dangerous and the straight jacket.

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Reply #747 posted 10/26/10 3:22am

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MyLuv229 said:

This was the setlist for This is it?

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Reply #748 posted 10/26/10 3:23am

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bboy87 said:

There should've been a concert tribute to Michael by now, but it looks like there won't be one for some time

What you aren't counting Jermaine's own Tribute concert in Vegas?

I would rather see a Tribute show at the 5 year mark and run by the estate, not the family, and see it more like the Freddy Mercury tribute concert.

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Reply #749 posted 10/26/10 3:30am

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I think the tributes we saw last year is all Michael is going to get, I was a little surprise that people didn’t really go all out for him but then again I’m not. Like Swa said probably around the 5 year anniversary there will be one. He’s not going to be celebrated every year just acknowledge when the date of his death hits.

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