http://www.thegaylekingsh...70223.html

Gayle: "I was SO impressed with the LMP interview! Cause I thought she was so candid & so honest... I REALLY felt that she did truly love him!"

Oprah: "No,, there is NO question about that, there is no question about that. she loves-- loved and loves him so much that after that interview I said, 'You need to let this GO now, because you ARE married, and your husband is only gonna want to hear about this for so long... OK, its wonderful that you loved him & you're mourning & grieving, but after awhile, your current husband is like, "O-kay, now!'"

mookie said:

http://www.thegaylekingsh...70223.html

Gayle: "I was SO impressed with the LMP interview! Cause I thought she was so candid & so honest... I REALLY felt that she did truly love him!"

Oprah: "No,, there is NO question about that, there is no question about that. she loves-- loved and loves him so much that after that interview I said, 'You need to let this GO now, because you ARE married, and your husband is only gonna want to hear about this for so long... OK, its wonderful that you loved him & you're mourning & grieving, but after awhile, your current husband is like, "O-kay, now!'"

Wow...

After she just gave her this million dollar interview... Get Over it...

Oprah really is a bitch...

She was overly hostile in that interview. kept cutting Lisa Marie Off

She better show Katherine some respect.

OK, I have way MORE respect for Lisa now than I did for Oprah. Dumb ass bitch used Lisa's kindness for weakness. I know Lisa did some things in the past that I didn't like but after she done poured her heart out, Oprah does this? Fuck that ho.

EmbattledWarrior said:

mookie said:

http://www.thegaylekingsh...70223.html

Gayle: "I was SO impressed with the LMP interview! Cause I thought she was so candid & so honest... I REALLY felt that she did truly love him!"

Oprah: "No,, there is NO question about that, there is no question about that. she loves-- loved and loves him so much that after that interview I said, 'You need to let this GO now, because you ARE married, and your husband is only gonna want to hear about this for so long... OK, its wonderful that you loved him & you're mourning & grieving, but after awhile, your current husband is like, "O-kay, now!'"

Wow...

After she just gave her this million dollar interview... Get Over it...

Oprah really is a bitch...

She was overly hostile in that interview. kept cutting Lisa Marie Off

She better show Katherine some respect.

Yeah, Oprah sounds harsh, but she's right because that's gotta be a slap in her husband's face right now. Move on.

angel345 said:

EmbattledWarrior said:

Wow...

After she just gave her this million dollar interview... Get Over it...

Oprah really is a bitch...

She was overly hostile in that interview. kept cutting Lisa Marie Off

She better show Katherine some respect.

Yeah, Oprah sounds harsh, but she's right because that's gotta be a slap in her husband's face right now. Move on.

Yeah but there is etiquette, you don't do that to someone who just gave you an Exclusive interview.

& its not the first time she's been bitchy.

I remember the Dave Chappelle interview she gave him when he was "crazy"

very disrespectful...

[Edited 10/23/10 12:16pm]

If Michael and Lisa had remained together, and developed an even tighter relationship (with him actually listening to her), the Bashir interview never would have happened. She wouldn't have tolerated that.

WaterInYourBath said:

If Michael and Lisa had remained together, and developed an even tighter relationship (with him actually listening to her), the Bashir interview never would have happened. She wouldn't have tolerated that.

You may be right...hell if he had married any good woman, that interview woulda never happened.

Idk how to feel towards Lisa...sure she may have loved him. But if she did, she would've stayed and taken the heat. A good woman stands by her man. If MJ had been a little more flexible, maybe things coulda worked out. I know they loved each other...but MJ's inflexibility and her immaturity just didn't pan out. "Divored on a dare"???? Really?

I never really liked her...too spoiled. But I never really hated on her. Friendly indifference, I'd call it.

SherryJackson said:

WaterInYourBath said:

If Michael and Lisa had remained together, and developed an even tighter relationship (with him actually listening to her), the Bashir interview never would have happened. She wouldn't have tolerated that.

You may be right...hell if he had married any good woman, that interview woulda never happened.

Idk how to feel towards Lisa...sure she may have loved him. But if she did, she would've stayed and taken the heat. A good woman stands by her man. If MJ had been a little more flexible, maybe things coulda worked out. I know they loved each other...but MJ's inflexibility and her immaturity just didn't pan out. "Divored on a dare"???? Really?

I never really liked her...too spoiled. But I never really hated on her. Friendly indifference, I'd call it.

And Mj wasn't spoiled?

I think that was the relationships demise, they were too immature.

Sure divorce on a dare is immature, so is marrying somebody months after the divorce clears. And throwing another women in your wife's face aint too cute either.

I love him, but what she described sure does sound like him. And it makes a whole lot of sense, because they were seen with each other various times after the divorce. While he was with debbie.

He was pretty much hell bent on getting those kids.

I don't think anyone could've saved him. Only he could've saved himself.

MJ always had a dark cloud over him, some people are just unlucky like that.

RIP

EmbattledWarrior said:

angel345 said:

Yeah, Oprah sounds harsh, but she's right because that's gotta be a slap in her husband's face right now. Move on.

Yeah but there is etiquette, you don't do that to someone who just gave you an Exclusive interview.

& its not the first time she's been bitchy.

I remember the Dave Chappelle interview she gave him when he was "crazy"

very disrespectful...

[Edited 10/23/10 12:16pm]

I do not condone what she did, and that's why I said it was harsh. However, it makes me wonder why agree to a second interview with Oprah, knowing that Oprah dissed MJ before. To top it off, she dissed him. Where's the respect in that? As for David Chapelle, I had no knowledge of that, but I'll look it up if I can. I guess celebrities tolerate Oprah because she's Oprah

WaterInYourBath said:

If Michael and Lisa had remained together, and developed an even tighter relationship (with him actually listening to her), the Bashir interview never would have happened. She wouldn't have tolerated that.

And she wouldn't have tolerated Oprah if it was tight, I believe.

The American Public Must Demand Honest Journalism.-

Looks like Oprah ain't done with the Jacksons...

On her show's Facebook wall Thursday nite:

http://www.facebook.com/o...7786451914

The Oprah Winfrey Show ‎@Oprah: OMG! Just had a SURPRISE date with Jackie Jackson. My teen idol hearthrob. Tried not to talk too much or eat too much. Succeeded at neither!
Thursday at 8:42pm via Facebook for iPhone

Almost 600 responses, and over 3,600 ppl liked it

HAPPYPERSON said:

The American Public Must Demand Honest Journalism.-

-by Forbes Everett Landis

Do you think it is a good idea to keep silence about the attacks on one of the most visible achievers of the American Dream? Are we not forfeiting our children’s future into the hands of bullies? Is it not time for us to speak up about the damage opportunistic journalism is doing to our culture? --

Last year, the news of pop-superstar Michael Jackson’s premature death shocked the world. As I am a classical music fan, not a connoisseur of pop music or any of its stars, Jackson’s death did not immediately evoke any particular emotion in me. I just let it go.

But as the days went by, and as I passively soaked in more and more news reports on Jackson’s death, I began to feel increasingly uncomfortable. A man had passed away: What need was there for the media to so eagerly show humiliating images of how Jackson would have looked on his death-bed? I was prompted to look into the case more thoroughly.

After more than a year, although I am not a Michael Jackson fan per se, on closer inspection I have come to admire his scale of contributions and humanitarian messages espoused within songs of his. And despite my hitherto skeptical view of the frenzied remarks often made by Jackson’s hard-core followers, I feel the need to say this:

To keep the American dream alive for our children, we should stop abusing our talented and creative spirits out of jealousy and misunderstanding.

Jackson had to deal with the media condemning him as strange, weird, and even labeling him a fr.eak, both figuratively and literally. My opinion about this is clear: Though at times, to subjective eyes, Jackson might have looked ‘different,’ half of this eccentricity was due to the fact that he was born to be an artist inevitably different from others because of his imaginative and creative nature, and half because he was forced into being so unconventional by a degree of media pressure few, if any, have ever experienced. Being different from others does not equate being harmful to others. As long as one does not violate others’ human rights, one has the right to be him or herself. In a society that prioritizes human rights and freedom, I find no justification for hurtful attacks on people who are perceived to be ‘different.’ These kinds of attacks are especially sordid when they involve the spreading of knowingly false rumors for financial gain. After Jackson’s acquittal on alleged child related charges in 2005, several journalists, such as Aphrodite Jones, came forward to confess that most of the media in attendance intentionally put objectivity aside in covering the Michael Jackson case by fragmenting the facts divulged in court, reporting only anti-Jackson information.

The human race has quite often owed its scientific or artistic progress to the “weird” and the “eccentric.” Let us consider, for example, Galileo Galilei, who was charged for openly discussing Copernican theory, a concept seen as sinful and roundly condemned at that time; later, of course, this theory went on to become the accepted standard of scientific understanding of the universe. We might also stop to consider how treasonable the very idea of democracy once was, how dangerous the aristocracy felt it to be; later, democracy became the world’s prevailing political philosophy. We can also remember that the concept of equality between : women and men, among different ethnicities, or diverse religions, was derided when it emerged. Also, had she not thought differently from others, might Mother Teresa not have been a stay-at-home mom instead of traveling to India and risking her life for humanity?

Keeping the history of these exceptional ideas and people in mind, I can almost guarantee that if one had killed all the “freaks” among our Australopithecine ancestors 3.5 million years ago, our species might not have made it to the 21st Century. We might very well have just remained a much more primitive species, one without the use of fire and the wheel, let alone an orchestra, or democracy, or computers. Is it not, after all, diversity that allows for evolution?

In other words, "weirdness" is sometimes the inevitable result of an exceptional imaginative ability that sees no boundaries in search of all the creative possibilities. As long as such individuals do us no harm, we should let them be. It is our duty to be respectful of those who are different not only because every human being is entitled to freedom, but also because diversity is at the root of human survival; diversity or “difference” is what allows for new ways of looking at things and indeed for innovation to occur.

To those who think that the Jackson’s spoken voice was peculiar, I would say that I see no significance in it. The spoken voice cannot be uncoupled from the singing voice that so many lauded. It might also be helpful for you to consider this information in order to broaden your understanding of the global context: there are countries where people respect those who speak softly, in a calm, non-aggressive manner. The American standard, where a loud voice is seemingly necessary to assertiveness, is not the only standard in the world.

To those who criticize the 'King of Pop' for purchasing Neverland, I pose this question: Would you have survived without buying a Neverland-sized residential property if you were in reality never able to explore any place alone without being horded by an ensuing media and public frenzy whenever you stepped out of your front door? A huge residence with a vast garden might have been the only possible way for this worldwide megastar to relax and enjoy some fresh air without constant intrusion from the public. He said in an interview that he loved animals and nature just in the same way as famed animal welfare activist Dr. Jane Goodall did, and he simply surrounded himself with them at his personal retreat. After all, Jackson earned his money through incredible hard work and a perfectionist work-ethic. In light of his Guinness record-making support of no less than 39 charities, it may very well be hypocritical to criticize his spending habits. It is noteworthy that Jackson regularly donated proceeds, from his concerts on tours, to charity and during his career, he gave away upwards of 300 million dollars to philanthropic efforts.


Having demonstrated that there is nothing inherently wrong with living unconventionally, the question now turns to whether or not Jackson ever harmed anyone with his behaviors. Here I will discuss the child related allegations leveled against him. ---

In discussing the two instances of allegations Jackson was faced with, I would like to focus my attention primarily on the 1993 case due to the fact that the more recent (2003-2005) accusations ended with Jackson receiving a full legal acquittal on all counts, the extremely low credibility of the accuser’s mother playing a significant factor in this exoneration. In other words, Jackson was found not-guilty so I believe we must discount this case.

Considering that the laws of most U.S. states set down one’s right to sue anyone without being counter-sued solely in retribution for one’s lawsuit, one can safely sue anyone he wants to sue. Thus, the extortion of popular and wealthy persons is an increasingly attractive ploy for those seeking a quick buck. Fast and easy money may once have come at a personal price, that being distrust from one’s community. But, with cities growing ever larger and more impersonal, an individual’s local reputation is of gradually thinning importance, resulting in more room for thievery. To some mischief minded, the risk of exposure as an extortionist might thus seem lower when compared to the potentially enormous financial benefits of a scam. As a result, a millionaire, especially one whose professional value is greatly magnified by fame, is more vulnerable than ever. According to the National Center for Child Abuse and Neglect, in 1998, 71% of the abuse reports were revealed to be false or unfounded. The false accusation rate even rises to over 90% when a custody battle and money is involved (as was the case between the plaintiff’s parents in the 1993 allegations against Jackson, who was a friend of the child's mother). In the 1993 case, the charges never went to trial but were settled out of court.

The record illustrates that the financially troubled accuser’s father had previously approached Jackson’s representatives with a monetary request well before he sued for the alleged molestation, demonstrating that he would have refrained from filing suit in exchange for money. Would any parent with real care for the well-being of his or her children make such a deal?

As evidence for my position, I present the recorded phone conversation in which the accuser’s father is heard to say that everything [is] going “according to a certain plan,” that he would win “big time” and that Jackson would be ruined forever. These words sounds far more like the words of a mercenary than those of a father concerned with justice for his son.

It should also be emphasized that Jackson was never indicted on the 1993 allegations, even after an intensive 13-month investigation including interviews with over 400 witnesses in and out of the country, extensive searches of his residential properties, and even a 25 minute full-body examination in which Jackson had every part of his body photographed, videotaped and examined. And in the six years before the statute of limitation had expired, no criminal charges were ever filed. After the District Attorney’s office spent millions of tax payer dollars in hot pursuit of the singer, had they found any evidence of molestation, they would have been certain to indict Jackson. Civil settlement does not prevent criminal indictment. The 13-year-old boy at the center of the allegations refused to testify criminally and his father, the main individual behind the allegations, committed suicide within months of Jackson's death.

Having discussed the mischaracterization of what people might dismiss as “weird,” and having made plain the falsity of the allegations made against Jackson, accusations that in my view look suspiciously extortionate, as highlighted above, I would now like to consider Jackson’s moral conduct with reference to the caricature presented of him:

Regarding integrity, Jackson’s deeds and lifestyle, apart from the media’s fabricated stories, remained innocent and appropriate. In fact, his decency made him look almost old-fashioned, even when he was young, when compared with many entertainers’ indulgences in sex, alcohol, and drugs. Interviews with Jackson indicated that he felt it highly inappropriate to remark publicly on his sexual life. This strikes me as an example of his dignity and modesty. However, this very reserve may ironically have fueled further baseless speculation about Jackson’s sexual orientation. I wish to ask : is publicly questioning a person’s sexual life not way more improper than that person’s choice of silence out of a desire for privacy regarding the same? The fact that Jackson was not involved in a multitude of sex scandals with women, a fact which should normally invite respect, seems unfairly to have been justification for the media to pathologize Jackson. It is beyond ridiculous to construct the lack of lasciviousness and scandal as itself scandalous and suspect.

Many people have also remarked that Jackson did not curse at all, especially when he was younger. Only after suffering numerous hate campaigns founded on falsehoods did he insert a very small amount of profanity into his songs, in response to a world which had betrayed him so deeply. Even then, his use of profanity stayed away from vitriolic attacks , but came across more as an artistic expression of deep anguish. some of the lyrics from a song entitled “Tabloid Junkie” from his HIStory album go thus:

“It’s slander with the words you use

...Assassinate and mutilate
as the hounding media in hysteria

...You say it's not a sin
But with your pen you torture men
Then why do we keep foolin' ourselves

Just because you read it in a magazine
Or see it on the TV screen
Don't make it factual…”

Jackson also faced many accusations regarding his appearance and changed skin tone. But, turning this around, what might this suggest about those themselves who so scrutinized the way he looked? What does it say about their own biases and prejudices? And about the people who claimed to know details about every surgical procedure Jackson allegedly had, calling him a freak without even having seen him actually? Or who refused to acknowledge the pigment destroying disease Vitiligo which he was a sufferer of?

After the 2003 allegations, the media repeatedly displayed pictures of Jackson in an emaciated state, not out of questions about his well-being, but it would seem, simply in order to taunt him. While Jackson was indeed beginning to look fairly thin, but isn’t taking somebody’s tired physical appearance as direct evidence of inner abnormality only reveal our own superficiality ? Maybe , just maybe anyone else would have looked equally fatigued had they suffered the anguish of having to relentlessly fight vicious and false allegations all the while being condemned in the court of public opinion even before being found guilty by the legal system. Whereas under the laws of the land, one is granted the presumption of innocence until they are actually found guilty.

On the topic of morality : Which is more admirable, giving people hope by regularly visiting and donating to hospitals and orphanages, or telling scandalous stories based on speculation or lies? Which is more despicable, pursuing an exceptionally rigorous dedication to artistic perfection, or giving in to jealousy and greed to bring down an artist? The tabloid press, of course, uses this strategy on most celebrities and public figures. One might argue that Michael Jackson had learned to use the press as cynically as it used him ; that he , especially in the early days, once believed that “all publicity is good publicity,” One might even go so far as to say that Jackson purposely flaunted his eccentricities to generate press and in turn album sales. He did, after all, have a fine artistic sense of the dramatic. Maybe so, but this seems true up to an extent only : it might be the case that being an international headliner he could not escape the tabloid press any where he went and so he attempted to make lemons into lemon aid. Here my issue is what the media’s handling of Jackson devolved into, ultimately devouring him. And what this says about societal norms and ethics.

In this matter , critics have accused Jackson of not opposing false information adamantly enough. Pondering that charge, I suspect that having been abused by the media intrusiveness from his early days in the spotlight, Jackson might have come to feel vulnerable and victimized. He reported feeling very uncomfortable giving press interviews since he said his words were often taken out of context and even misquoted. As he resignedly confided to an associate that the press would not highlight good things because to the press, good news did not sell. No matter what he did, or what he accomplished. Rather the accent was always on sensationalizing even the trivial, leaving him to deal with an equation where visiting the burns unit at a hospital where he had made donations and where he was casually inspecting the equipment got translated into headlines of him freakishly sleeping in an oxygen chamber. Realistically speaking, had Jackson attempted to fight every rumor reported or printed about him, he would be left with no time or even resources to do anything else. Instead he stated having to “run the race of endurance” to withstand all the assaults made against his name throughout his career. In the end ,we must ask ourselves, what is more faithful and true, labeling someone a freak without even having met them personally and without possessing any evidence of wrongdoing ? Or showing fortitude in the face of hostility and simply expressing who one really is by letting his work speak for itself ?

Some might argue that the attacks Jackson had to suffer from the media and from consumers can be justified as a natural price to pay for the fame and fortune. No, I say. That is too high a price being charged from a human being. Those who knew Jackson said that the 2005 trial and it’s coverage had a very devastating impact on him. Those attacks had after a point exceeded all justifiable limits . To live under such harsh scrutiny, what kind of psychological and emotional damage might that inflict on the recipient? May I note that he was not paid to endure pain, but for his relentless efforts and dedication to his craft.

The American media have disgraced themselves by displaying to the world the schoolyard bullying of a talented and creative soul with great achievements . Now consider how this public bullying of a legendary figure might present itself to a new generation of youth, how it might play out in their minds and affect their morale ... Might this type of public bullying not discourage youngsters of today from pursuing their own creativity, their own inner diversity, for fear that they themselves might incur such abuse ?

The coverage of Michael Jackson’s life poses among other things, these questions to America: Does fulfilling the American Dream require that one subject oneself to unending media intrusion, to lies about one’s self for the sake of selling newspapers, and where one unproven accusation is enough to undo years and years of achievement and all the hard work and initiative that would necessarily have been part of the process? Do you want your children to live in a world where pursuing the American Dream involves the risks of a nightmare of mistrust and abuse?

I refer again to the journalists who later admitted their purposely distorted and biased reporting on the Michael Jackson child molestation cases. If we recall for a moment the enormous number of journalists who surrounded the Santa Barbara County courthouse, one can surmise that the handful of journalists who came clean about their deception makes up only a tiny fraction of those involved.

I suspect that there were hundreds more who remained silent and who knowingly bent the truth to sell papers and boost network ratings. I also suppose that there are thousands of people who, having received one-sided information, once believed the larger than life Jackson to be no better than a freakish criminal, but who, after his death felt compelled to research the facts themselves, and have now come to see him just as one of us, a burdened human being and a caring parent, as well as a uniquely talented artist and a devoted philanthropist who had remained for many a global ambassador. Perhaps these now better-informed members of the public have come to doubt the veracity of the media itself, not just when it comes to Michael Jackson, but in general.

I speculate that there is a pervasive feeling that it is safer to say nothing when it comes to Michael Jackson for fear of being promptly stigmatized. However, we need to address the implications of such silent behavior. What does our silence about the attacks on one of the most visible achievers of the American Dream say? What does it say in light of the American Constitutions’ declaration of the inalienable right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness ? If we play it safe, we are forfeiting our children’s future into the hands of bullies. It is time for us to speak up about the damage opportunistic journalism is doing to our culture. As Edmund Burke once penned, “all it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”

Loved it. Thanks a lot.

EmbattledWarrior said:

SherryJackson said:

You may be right...hell if he had married any good woman, that interview woulda never happened.

Idk how to feel towards Lisa...sure she may have loved him. But if she did, she would've stayed and taken the heat. A good woman stands by her man. If MJ had been a little more flexible, maybe things coulda worked out. I know they loved each other...but MJ's inflexibility and her immaturity just didn't pan out. "Divored on a dare"???? Really?

I never really liked her...too spoiled. But I never really hated on her. Friendly indifference, I'd call it.

And Mj wasn't spoiled?

I think that was the relationships demise, they were too immature.

Sure divorce on a dare is immature, so is marrying somebody months after the divorce clears. And throwing another women in your wife's face aint too cute either.

I love him, but what she described sure does sound like him. And it makes a whole lot of sense, because they were seen with each other various times after the divorce. While he was with debbie.

He was pretty much hell bent on getting those kids.

I don't think anyone could've saved him. Only he could've saved himself.

MJ always had a dark cloud over him, some people are just unlucky like that.

RIP

Not like her...

But you right in the last statement. Only he could've helped himself...only way he coulda made the change. I honestly wish he did...

[Edited 10/23/10 14:32pm]

WaterInYourBath said:

If Michael and Lisa had remained together, and developed an even tighter relationship (with him actually listening to her), the Bashir interview never would have happened. She wouldn't have tolerated that.

We can't assume that. Both have admitted that they fought non-stop. And like LMP said, she had some faults in her marriage too. I think fan love to blame Michael for all of it. I think I would rather see Michael with a mature, non-impulsive, non-spoiled, non-LMP type of woman. The one who doesn't "dare" things on Michael. I think any woman like that would've made a difference.

PositivityNYC said:

Looks like Oprah ain't done with the Jacksons...

On her show's Facebook wall Thursday nite:

http://www.facebook.com/o...7786451914

The Oprah Winfrey Show ‎@Oprah: OMG! Just had a SURPRISE date with Jackie Jackson. My teen idol hearthrob. Tried not to talk too much or eat too much. Succeeded at neither!
Thursday at 8:42pm via Facebook for iPhone

Almost 600 responses, and over 3,600 ppl liked it

Jackie tweeted about that. I wasn't surprised Oprah got that interview. She's fishing in the Jackson pond to catch as many as she can.

Teddy commented on twitter that his work on the new album is pretty much done and Steve Lukather said the other day he's working on it too

They're down to the wire if they're still going for that November 22 date

MyLuv229 said:

PositivityNYC said:

Looks like Oprah ain't done with the Jacksons...

On her show's Facebook wall Thursday nite:

http://www.facebook.com/o...7786451914

The Oprah Winfrey Show ‎@Oprah: OMG! Just had a SURPRISE date with Jackie Jackson. My teen idol hearthrob. Tried not to talk too much or eat too much. Succeeded at neither!
Thursday at 8:42pm via Facebook for iPhone

Almost 600 responses, and over 3,600 ppl liked it

Jackie tweeted about that. I wasn't surprised Oprah got that interview. She's fishing in the Jackson pond to catch as many as she can.

oh, he did.. lol

hey, wait... isn't she with some tall, stuffy-lookin' dude.. Steadman/Stedman (sp?) ??

bboy87 said:

Teddy commented on twitter that his work on the new album is pretty much done and Steve Lukather said the other day he's working on it too

They're down to the wire if they're still going for that November 22 date

Cool.

ali23 said:

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I don't blame her. I would have been through or would he have been through?

seeingvoices12 said:

C'mon, the fairy tale is over, and Prince Charming is dead. Go home to your husband and kids. That's what Oprah is trying to tell her, brash as it sounds.

mimi07 said:

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Awwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!! This would've warmed Michael's heart had he been here to see it....

I'm posting this on facebook...makes me happy...

I'm a huge MJ fan, and I think this is cool, but this spooks me a little.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v211/godaiking/Ebay%202010/?action=view&current=SDC12760.jpg

Did anybody catch Kanye's Runaway film that just aired?

There was a little scene with kind of a parade and a big Mike Jackson parade float.

It made me feel good,

but,then the scene also had some KKK lookin stuff in it,too so........

Vanilli said:

I'm a huge MJ fan, and I think this is cool, but this spooks me a little.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v211/godaiking/Ebay%202010/?action=view&current=SDC12760.jpg

Oh, the face castings? Nothing new about that.....I have a friend who has a few she ordered off e-Bay. I personally wouldn't buy that though....

Vanilli said:

[img:$uid]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v211/godaiking/Ebay%202010/SDC12760.jpg[/img:$uid]

I'm a huge MJ fan, and I think this is cool, but this spooks me a little.

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v211/godaiking/Ebay%202010/?action=view&current=SDC12760.jpg

Yup,definately spooky!

I still want it tho!

angel345 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

C'mon, the fairy tale is over, and Prince Charming is dead. Go home to your husband and kids. That's what Oprah is trying to tell her, brash as it sounds.

Ah, well and Oprah should mind her own god damned business and not tell other people what they should do... especially when no one has asked for her opinion!

MyLuv229 said:

WaterInYourBath said:

If Michael and Lisa had remained together, and developed an even tighter relationship (with him actually listening to her), the Bashir interview never would have happened. She wouldn't have tolerated that.

We can't assume that. Both have admitted that they fought non-stop. And like LMP said, she had some faults in her marriage too. I think fan love to blame Michael for all of it. I think I would rather see Michael with a mature, non-impulsive, non-spoiled, non-LMP type of woman. The one who doesn't "dare" things on Michael. I think any woman like that would've made a difference.

Sure I can.

Watch the Diane Sawyer interview. Lisa didn't allow biased Sawyer to get away with too many snide comments. And with Lisa being there, Michael's demeanor was more assertive as well. It's like her tough attitude rubbed-off on him for awhile too, especially considering how strongly he spoke with Barbara Walters a year after their divorce (I wish he would have continued being aggressive during interviews like that....). If Lisa had been around with Bashir, I believe she would have been able to sense his agenda and help Michael stop that production from happening the way it did. I'm only focusing in on Lisa-Marie 'cause she was the only true "wife" he ever had. All other potential women are irrelevant.

Lisa's self-insecurity was her main problem in their marriage. She could stick up for Michael, which is what I admire, but clearly not for herself. And Michael wasn't the blame for anything. He just wanted children. If Lisa had been more wise about how to handle his type of mind, that problem could have been resolved. But instead, she withdrew, which is too bad.