bboy87 said:

mookie said:

Lisa Marie Presley Opens Up About Michael Jackson’s Death To Oprah

Lisa Marie Presley has given her first – and only — interview about the 2009 death of her former husband, Michael Jackson.

On Thursday’s “The Oprah Winfrey Show,” the world will know about the devastation Lisa Marie felt when the King of Pop succumbed to acute Propofol intoxication in June 2009.

“Do you think you could have saved him?” Oprah asked in a clip made available by the show on Wednesday.

“I think that was a train heading in a certain direction that no one could have stopped,” Lisa Marie said. “I’ve had to really get my head around that in order to stop the pain.

Oprah asked Lisa Marie a host of questions about losing Michael – including the parallel’s between Michael’s death and her father, Elvis Presley’s death. The TV queen also asked Lisa if she thinks family and friends let Michael down.

“If he didn’t want you around, if you were going to make him confront something he didn’t want to confront, he could make you go away — including his own family,” Lisa Marie said.

Lisa Marie and Michael Jackson were married for two years, from 1994 to 1996.

http://www.accesshollywood.com/lisa-marie-presley-on-michael-jacksons-death_article_38608

So basically, it's the same thing

I wonder what´s gonna come out of that, but so far it looks we´ve heard it all before. Also based on these short comments, she seems to blame only MIKE for his death, even though the trial is not over and basically nobody knows what exactly happened (At least I don´t. If anybody does, please let me know). I´ve been to busy lately to follow more than the org.

Anyone know if this is real?

Bonus points: If it isn't real, can you ID what it is from?

Vanilli said:

Anyone know if this is real?

Bonus points: If it isn't real, can you ID what it is from?

Everything after 0:02 is fake

dag said:

[Edited 10/20/10 11:28am]

Damn, thats the creepiest MJ pic I've ever seen. I can see why they haven't been released.

Rorywan said:

dag said:

[Edited 10/20/10 11:28am]

Damn, thats the creepiest MJ pic I've ever seen. I can see why they haven't been released.

It's definitely not a favorite of mine. I'm looking at the original pictures and these and it's obvious they REALLY overdid it on the airbrushing

they got that from this

[img:$uid]http://mjphotoscollectors.com/web/uploads/1287314905/med_gallery_3559_1586_73657.jpg[/img:$uid]

^^ You can see how that might play in Italian Vogue - but I'm not feeling it. It's been too pushed in the retouch stakes that he ends up not looking his best at all.

Yeah, the airbrushing is way overdone. They even lengthened his nose to make it closer to his upper lip in that pic for some reason

Swa said:

Michael Jackson's dad, Joe Jackson, wants somewhere between $10 million and $500 million from Dr. Conrad Murray to compensate him for the loss of his son's support ... this according to new documents obtained by TMZ.


In the docs -- part of Joe's wrongful death lawsuit -- he claims the money he seeks is in "the realistic range of provable damages."

Joe says 20% of his damages are for loss of support, 40% are for emotional distress and 40% are for "loss of comfort, aid, society and companionship."

And this is huge ... Dr. Murray says he's broke and can't settle anything because his insurance company is refusing to cover him.

Joe's lawyer, Brian Oxman, also says he may take the depositions of more than 60 people who have info regarding Jackson's death.

Dr. Murray says in his new filings he does not want to sit for a deposition until after the criminal case runs its course. It's a whole 5th Amendment thing.

Maybe it's just me,but if I had lost a child,the last thing I would be thinking of is money. No amount of money could compensate for the loss of my kid.

Snippets from Oprah's interview

Oprah just asks Lisa how her current husband feels? He says that he is glad when the interview is over because she can exorcise it from her system. And that he is so understanding and realzes that she is still going through this.

She feels like she is alone and honored that she got through her father and Mike.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

It wasn't all bad.

She admitted that she broke up her first family, Mike was angry because she had her ex around and so he did things in retaliation, she was with Mike for 4 years after the divorce, Mike was an amazing person, she was addicted to him like a drug and her highest high in her entire life was being next him, she knows who Mike thought was conspiring to kill him and take his estate and catalog, she shut him out when he tried to talk to her in 2005, she said that she divorced him on a dare and she regrets doing that.

Lisa says that she never saw anything happened between Mike and kids.

She also said that Martin Bashir was evil and edited the interview in a nasty way.

Um, that's it, I think. Everything else is bullish. Lots of comparisons between Elvis and Mike. Lisa and Oprah trying to make her the widow and Mike's only true love. She says she is private but then, says that she was the last one over his casket and she was asking him to forgive her for abandoning him. And of course, there is a picture of her doing so. So much for privacy, right? She regrets that she didn't even call him and shut him out.

She still feels guilty. She still loves him. Her current husband is f*cked.

Lisa doesn't go into real detail about the baby issue but it was clear to me that she felt jealous. She admitted that she loved being with him, as a unit, together. Never mentioned anything about family, just them as a unit. So she told on herself again.

I feel bad for Mike. I think that he loved her a lot (she said that they would fight for days at a time and only sleep and eat and if Mike had a problem, he would wake her up in the middle of the night and talk to her about it) and she betrayed him with her game playing and testing (like the divorce when she really didn't want to get one) and I can see how he hardened his heart to her. Even in 2005, she was unsympathetic to him and that was the last time they supposedly spoke.

Lisa admits that she understands him so much better now and why he did things the way he did.

But, never forget, that this was OPRAH'S VEHICLE. She actually had Lisa state at the end of the interview that she was not going to talk about this ever again and that if people want information they need to refer to the Oprah Winfrey Show. That is a direct quote, btw. My jaw hit the ceiling. Oprah is a BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH.

[Edited 10/21/10 9:15am]

mookie said:

Snippets from Oprah's interview

Oprah just asks Lisa how her current husband feels? He says that he is glad when the interview is over because she can exorcise it from her system. And that he is so understanding and realzes that she is still going through this.

She feels like she is alone and honored that she got through her father and Mike.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

It wasn't all bad.

She admitted that she broke up her first family, Mike was angry because she had her ex around and so he did things in retaliation, she was with Mike for 4 years after the divorce, Mike was an amazing person, she was addicted to him like a drug and her highest high in her entire life was being next him, she knows who Mike thought was conspiring to kill him and take his estate and catalog, she shut him out when he tried to talk to her in 2005, she said that she divorced him on a dare and she regrets doing that.

Lisa says that she never saw anything happened between Mike and kids.

She also said that Martin Bashir was evil and edited the interview in a nasty way.

Um, that's it, I think. Everything else is bullish. Lots of comparisons between Elvis and Mike. Lisa and Oprah trying to make her the widow and Mike's only true love. She says she is private but then, says that she was the last one over his casket and she was asking him to forgive her for abandoning him. And of course, there is a picture of her doing so. So much for privacy, right? She regrets that she didn't even call him and shut him out.

She still feels guilty. She still loves him. Her current husband is f*cked.

Lisa doesn't go into real detail about the baby issue but it was clear to me that she felt jealous. She admitted that she loved being with him, as a unit, together. Never mentioned anything about family, just them as a unit. So she told on herself again.

I feel bad for Mike. I think that he loved her a lot (she said that they would fight for days at a time and only sleep and eat and if Mike had a problem, he would wake her up in the middle of the night and talk to her about it) and she betrayed him with her game playing and testing (like the divorce when she really didn't want to get one) and I can see how he hardened his heart to her. Even in 2005, she was unsympathetic to him and that was the last time they supposedly spoke.

Lisa admits that she understands him so much better now and why he did things the way he did.

But, never forget, that this was OPRAH'S VEHICLE. She actually had Lisa state at the end of the interview that she was not going to talk about this ever again and that if people want information they need to refer to the Oprah Winfrey Show. That is a direct quote, btw. My jaw hit the ceiling. Oprah is a BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH.

[Edited 10/21/10 9:15am]

I can´t believe this. Hey, guys please post all the details here tomorrow as soon as it airs.

"Her current husband is f*cked." What? In what way? DId she really say that?

mookie said:

Snippets from Oprah's interview

Oprah just asks Lisa how her current husband feels? He says that he is glad when the interview is over because she can exorcise it from her system. And that he is so understanding and realzes that she is still going through this.

She feels like she is alone and honored that she got through her father and Mike.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

It wasn't all bad.

She admitted that she broke up her first family, Mike was angry because she had her ex around and so he did things in retaliation, she was with Mike for 4 years after the divorce, Mike was an amazing person, she was addicted to him like a drug and her highest high in her entire life was being next him, she knows who Mike thought was conspiring to kill him and take his estate and catalog, she shut him out when he tried to talk to her in 2005, she said that she divorced him on a dare and she regrets doing that.

Lisa says that she never saw anything happened between Mike and kids.

She also said that Martin Bashir was evil and edited the interview in a nasty way.

Um, that's it, I think. Everything else is bullish. Lots of comparisons between Elvis and Mike. Lisa and Oprah trying to make her the widow and Mike's only true love. She says she is private but then, says that she was the last one over his casket and she was asking him to forgive her for abandoning him. And of course, there is a picture of her doing so. So much for privacy, right? She regrets that she didn't even call him and shut him out.

She still feels guilty. She still loves him. Her current husband is f*cked.

Lisa doesn't go into real detail about the baby issue but it was clear to me that she felt jealous. She admitted that she loved being with him, as a unit, together. Never mentioned anything about family, just them as a unit. So she told on herself again.

I feel bad for Mike. I think that he loved her a lot (she said that they would fight for days at a time and only sleep and eat and if Mike had a problem, he would wake her up in the middle of the night and talk to her about it) and she betrayed him with her game playing and testing (like the divorce when she really didn't want to get one) and I can see how he hardened his heart to her. Even in 2005, she was unsympathetic to him and that was the last time they supposedly spoke.

Lisa admits that she understands him so much better now and why he did things the way he did.

But, never forget, that this was OPRAH'S VEHICLE. She actually had Lisa state at the end of the interview that she was not going to talk about this ever again and that if people want information they need to refer to the Oprah Winfrey Show. That is a direct quote, btw. My jaw hit the ceiling. Oprah is a BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH.

[Edited 10/21/10 9:15am]

What the he11 is that nonsense? She divorced him on a DARE? Is she serious? That is not what she said in her Myspace blog, she gave the impression it was something that she had to do because she was getting too sucked in by Michael's problems and she was beginning to lose herself...something like that anyways. But to say she divorced him on a dare is ridiculous! What is she 9 years old mentally? Thanks Mookie for posting this.

[Edited 10/21/10 10:04am]

bboy87 said:

Rorywan said:

Damn, thats the creepiest MJ pic I've ever seen. I can see why they haven't been released.

It's definitely not a favorite of mine. I'm looking at the original pictures and these and it's obvious they REALLY overdid it on the airbrushing

they got that from this

[img:$uid]http://mjphotoscollectors.com/web/uploads/1287314905/med_gallery_3559_1586_73657.jpg[/img:$uid]

Yeah I didn't like the overbrushed picture either. Obviously the original one is much better.

EmeraldSkies said:

Swa said:

Michael Jackson's dad, Joe Jackson, wants somewhere between $10 million and $500 million from Dr. Conrad Murray to compensate him for the loss of his son's support ... this according to new documents obtained by TMZ.


In the docs -- part of Joe's wrongful death lawsuit -- he claims the money he seeks is in "the realistic range of provable damages."

Joe says 20% of his damages are for loss of support, 40% are for emotional distress and 40% are for "loss of comfort, aid, society and companionship."

And this is huge ... Dr. Murray says he's broke and can't settle anything because his insurance company is refusing to cover him.

Joe's lawyer, Brian Oxman, also says he may take the depositions of more than 60 people who have info regarding Jackson's death.

Dr. Murray says in his new filings he does not want to sit for a deposition until after the criminal case runs its course. It's a whole 5th Amendment thing.

Maybe it's just me,but if I had lost a child,the last thing I would be thinking of is money. No amount of money could compensate for the loss of my kid.

Joe always treated Michael like a money machine.

NaughtyKitty said:

mookie said:

Snippets from Oprah's interview

Oprah just asks Lisa how her current husband feels? He says that he is glad when the interview is over because she can exorcise it from her system. And that he is so understanding and realzes that she is still going through this.

She feels like she is alone and honored that she got through her father and Mike.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

It wasn't all bad.

She admitted that she broke up her first family, Mike was angry because she had her ex around and so he did things in retaliation, she was with Mike for 4 years after the divorce, Mike was an amazing person, she was addicted to him like a drug and her highest high in her entire life was being next him, she knows who Mike thought was conspiring to kill him and take his estate and catalog, she shut him out when he tried to talk to her in 2005, she said that she divorced him on a dare and she regrets doing that.

Lisa says that she never saw anything happened between Mike and kids.

She also said that Martin Bashir was evil and edited the interview in a nasty way.

Um, that's it, I think. Everything else is bullish. Lots of comparisons between Elvis and Mike. Lisa and Oprah trying to make her the widow and Mike's only true love. She says she is private but then, says that she was the last one over his casket and she was asking him to forgive her for abandoning him. And of course, there is a picture of her doing so. So much for privacy, right? She regrets that she didn't even call him and shut him out.

She still feels guilty. She still loves him. Her current husband is f*cked.

Lisa doesn't go into real detail about the baby issue but it was clear to me that she felt jealous. She admitted that she loved being with him, as a unit, together. Never mentioned anything about family, just them as a unit. So she told on herself again.

I feel bad for Mike. I think that he loved her a lot (she said that they would fight for days at a time and only sleep and eat and if Mike had a problem, he would wake her up in the middle of the night and talk to her about it) and she betrayed him with her game playing and testing (like the divorce when she really didn't want to get one) and I can see how he hardened his heart to her. Even in 2005, she was unsympathetic to him and that was the last time they supposedly spoke.

Lisa admits that she understands him so much better now and why he did things the way he did.

But, never forget, that this was OPRAH'S VEHICLE. She actually had Lisa state at the end of the interview that she was not going to talk about this ever again and that if people want information they need to refer to the Oprah Winfrey Show. That is a direct quote, btw. My jaw hit the ceiling. Oprah is a BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH.

[Edited 10/21/10 9:15am]

What the he11 is that nonsense? She divorced him on a DARE? Is she serious? That is not what she said in her Myspace blog, she gave the impression it was something that she had to do because she was getting too sucked in by Michael's problems...something like that anyways. But to say she divorced him on a dare is ridiculous! What is she 9 years old mentally?

This is THE dumbest s**t I ever heard in my life....someone should silence this woman. Any takers? (j/k!!!!)

mookie said:

Snippets from Oprah's interview

Oprah just asks Lisa how her current husband feels? He says that he is glad when the interview is over because she can exorcise it from her system. And that he is so understanding and realzes that she is still going through this.

She feels like she is alone and honored that she got through her father and Mike.

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

It wasn't all bad.

She admitted that she broke up her first family, Mike was angry because she had her ex around and so he did things in retaliation, she was with Mike for 4 years after the divorce, Mike was an amazing person, she was addicted to him like a drug and her highest high in her entire life was being next him, she knows who Mike thought was conspiring to kill him and take his estate and catalog, she shut him out when he tried to talk to her in 2005, she said that she divorced him on a dare and she regrets doing that.

Lisa says that she never saw anything happened between Mike and kids.

She also said that Martin Bashir was evil and edited the interview in a nasty way.

Um, that's it, I think. Everything else is bullish. Lots of comparisons between Elvis and Mike. Lisa and Oprah trying to make her the widow and Mike's only true love. She says she is private but then, says that she was the last one over his casket and she was asking him to forgive her for abandoning him. And of course, there is a picture of her doing so. So much for privacy, right? She regrets that she didn't even call him and shut him out.

She still feels guilty. She still loves him. Her current husband is f*cked.

Lisa doesn't go into real detail about the baby issue but it was clear to me that she felt jealous. She admitted that she loved being with him, as a unit, together. Never mentioned anything about family, just them as a unit. So she told on herself again.

I feel bad for Mike. I think that he loved her a lot (she said that they would fight for days at a time and only sleep and eat and if Mike had a problem, he would wake her up in the middle of the night and talk to her about it) and she betrayed him with her game playing and testing (like the divorce when she really didn't want to get one) and I can see how he hardened his heart to her. Even in 2005, she was unsympathetic to him and that was the last time they supposedly spoke.

Lisa admits that she understands him so much better now and why he did things the way he did.

But, never forget, that this was OPRAH'S VEHICLE. She actually had Lisa state at the end of the interview that she was not going to talk about this ever again and that if people want information they need to refer to the Oprah Winfrey Show. That is a direct quote, btw. My jaw hit the ceiling. Oprah is a BITCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HH.

[Edited 10/21/10 9:15am]

On a dare? Come on Lisa... smh

Here's another very detailed recap of the interview

the interveiw wasn't as bad as I thought. LIsa was honest for once. Some stuff I could have did without but here's a recap if can't wait till it comes on in your area.

She started out saying in past interviews she was defensive and barky when the subject of MJ came up because she was always promoting a project and the interview would turn to be about MJ or personal things. She felt like this would be better to do the interview before her record comes out

They spoke a bit about her husband and kids in the beginning and why she moved to England. She felt LA has gotten over the top in its superficiality.
Her and Oprah went hiking this summer, so they've spoken about MJ before this.

Oprah started saying the star-crossed love affair between LMP and MJ started in 1993 from friendship and grew to something more.
They had not spoken in more than a decade before he died..

She said she was barky during the last interview with Oprah about MJ because she didn't understand her relationship with him
Oprah said she understood her defensiveness but LMP came across to her and the rest of the world as confusion and publicity.

LMP said MJ was a master manipulator of the media in a lot of ways. He was brought up that way. She said before she starts answering questions about him you have to understand how he was raised which was different than anyone's except her father. He was conditioned to get himself where he needed to go for his talent. He became good at creating and puppetering. She said she always confused the manipulation as he didn't love her but she understands now it was a survival tactic for him.

She's gained all this clarity about MJ since his death.
She was in England when she first heard, she was crying all day and didn't' know why. She got the news from a friend, John Travolta text her was she alright? She was floored and shocked.

She can't explain how or why she gained all this clarity, that's why she waited so long.
She felt she failed to help him.
She didn't suspect a drug problem until Decemeber 95 when he collapsed. She said their were all these reports, low blood pressure, viral infection, dehydration, she couldn't get real answers. She felt there was drug use after various indications.
She said their were times she would pick him up from doctor's offices and he would not be coherent.
At the time she just thought it was the injections, that he would need. Oprah asks things for what. She said injections dermatological. Oprah asks for his skin, LMP says yes and for various things he needed.

Oprah asks did she feel she was kept in the dark. LMP says no, everything was spoken, If he needed to wake her up and talk he did.
Oprah asks did he have trouble speaking then, LMP says yes, he was like a gnome, She would call him a gnome. because he was always up and about. she says he did have a hard time sleeping.

Oprah asks did she feel she was a nuturer. She says yes and she loved it. When her and MJ were together and they had an understanding about the people and things going on around him, she never felt such a high in her life.

Oprah asks she told the producers her time with MJ was the highest and the lowest of her life. Oprah asks her about the lowest. LMP skirts it and says when she speaks about him now, its all good and she was all this love and understanding for him. LMP then proceeds to try to answer Oprah's questions but of course oprah interrupts and asks were you angry with him when you left the marriage.
Yes she was very angry. She felt they were so united then he pushed her out.
Oprah asks why did the marriage ends, she said there was point when he had to make a decision her or the people around him.

Oprah asks he seemed to be drawn to people like that. LMP says like her father MJ had the luxury of creating his own reality and when people disagreed with him, you were out. She felt disposable. MJ wasn't a bad person, that's just how he functioned.
When its this unusual reality mixed with an addiction, its trouble.

Oprah then asks about the similarities between MJ and Elvis, LMP doesn't understand it but she sees it.
The home MJ died, was right across the street from Elvis' former home.

Oprah asked about the blog. and why she entitled it he knew.
she said he told her he was afraid he would end up like her father during a conversation at neverland sitting by the fire.

Oprah asks why did she fall in love with him. LMP says because he was an incredible person. She never felt so high in her life. He had something so intoxicating about him and when he was open it wasn't like anything.
Oprah then says oh I felt that too when I first met in 92 when he shined his light on you.
LMP says she always wanted to be around him. He was a drug for her. she never felt like that with another human being except her father.

Oprah asked did she feel love by Michael in the beginning. She did. she knew he didn't really have many women in his life, a few dates
Oprah asked how did he propose-- they were in the library in front of the fire at neverland, MJ pulled out a 10 carat ring, got on his knees and propsed. Oprah asked did she feel it would last forever, she said yes.

Orpah said when they were together it was like a circus. She said it was but they were together mostly with no cameras and alot of that was because History was coming out.



Oprah asks does she feel manipulated- yes but she knew she had to do his thing but she understood as his wife, she needed to do certain things.
Oprah asked was there alot of pressure to have a baby- LMP says yes and she wanted to , but she wanted to make sure things were stable.
Oprah says several months after they divorced it was announced that Debbie Rowe was pregnant.
LMP says it was a bit retalitory act on his part
She knew DR was there the whole time telling him she would have his baby, because he told her if she didn't debbie would. They would get into an arguments about it. At the time she felt hurt, she did things that hurt him. She was torn because she left her husband for Michael. While with MJ she never felt good about it. Danny was about her her life and MJ didn't know what to do with it. He was upset about the Hawaii vacation. He would leave and she couldn't find him. She says when she did things that upset MJ or when MJ got uncomfortable he would icy you out.
But in retrospect, he tried very hard and went through so much with her. He never did that with any other female or anyone. They would argue for 3 days straight breaking to eat and sleep. She admires that he gave it a good shot. she didn't appreciate it then and she wishes she did.

Did he have to die for her to realize he loved her. Yes she says when they were together they were really in love, had rough patches, she had to make a decison to walk because she saw the doctors coming and it scared her so she left but they spent 4 more years after the divorced getting back together, breaking up, talking about getting back together then she pushed him away because she wasn't moving forward.
She still loved him after she left him, She left him to make a stand and it was a stupid move because basically MJ called her bluff. He's stubborn.
Afterwards she was still flying all over the world with him.

Last spoke in a good conversation in 2005- she was removed and detached. He could feel it. He wanted to tell her she was right about the people around him. He asked did she still love him, she told him she was indifferent, he did't like it , he cried, he didn't understand how she became so detached.
Final part of conversation, him telling her he felt someone was going to try to kill him to get ahold of his catalouge and estate, He named names but she doesn't want to say but he was concerned about his life.

OPrah asks about the allegations, LMP says she did not see anyting like that.
He called LMP about the trial. She told him to keep his head together. he said like what drugs. she said yeah. There was a time random things were coming out the BAshir interview, she saw him high as a kite,
Oprah asks about the sleeping with young children comment MJ made in the bashir interview. LMP says she feels MJ says those things at times to be defiant like a little rebel because he got so angry so he would say things he knew people didn't like.
Oprah goes back to the charges. LMP says no she doesn't like they were true but of course she can never know excatly what went on in the room but she doesn't think they are true.

Did she get closure at the funeral- no. She was the last one standing up with him, she went back in because she didn't want to leave him. cue picture of her standing over the casket. She couldn't make peace, she wanted to apologize. She wanted to save him, she regrets she didn't at least try to call him or something.
FAmily and friends tried to help him but if he didn't want you around making him confront things, you wouldn't be. That was a train headed in a certain direction and no one could stop it

Oprah asks about current husband. Husband happy when she'll be done with this interview. He understands and she doesn't like it but she's had to deal with all this. She thanks God for him because it's highly unusual to deal with.

She feels really alone that she's dealt with all this with her father and Michael but honored at the same time. June 25th is a day she dreads like August 16th.
She's not talking about it again.

Thanks, mookie. I feel very sad reading all that. I don't know that I'll be able to watch it without getting upset.

mookie said:

Here's another very detailed recap of the interview

the interveiw wasn't as bad as I thought. LIsa was honest for once. Some stuff I could have did without but here's a recap if can't wait till it comes on in your area.

She started out saying in past interviews she was defensive and barky when the subject of MJ came up because she was always promoting a project and the interview would turn to be about MJ or personal things. She felt like this would be better to do the interview before her record comes out

They spoke a bit about her husband and kids in the beginning and why she moved to England. She felt LA has gotten over the top in its superficiality.
Her and Oprah went hiking this summer, so they've spoken about MJ before this.

Oprah started saying the star-crossed love affair between LMP and MJ started in 1993 from friendship and grew to something more.
They had not spoken in more than a decade before he died..

She said she was barky during the last interview with Oprah about MJ because she didn't understand her relationship with him
Oprah said she understood her defensiveness but LMP came across to her and the rest of the world as confusion and publicity.

LMP said MJ was a master manipulator of the media in a lot of ways. He was brought up that way. She said before she starts answering questions about him you have to understand how he was raised which was different than anyone's except her father. He was conditioned to get himself where he needed to go for his talent. He became good at creating and puppetering. She said she always confused the manipulation as he didn't love her but she understands now it was a survival tactic for him.

She's gained all this clarity about MJ since his death.
She was in England when she first heard, she was crying all day and didn't' know why. She got the news from a friend, John Travolta text her was she alright? She was floored and shocked.

She can't explain how or why she gained all this clarity, that's why she waited so long.
She felt she failed to help him.
She didn't suspect a drug problem until Decemeber 95 when he collapsed. She said their were all these reports, low blood pressure, viral infection, dehydration, she couldn't get real answers. She felt there was drug use after various indications.
She said their were times she would pick him up from doctor's offices and he would not be coherent.
At the time she just thought it was the injections, that he would need. Oprah asks things for what. She said injections dermatological. Oprah asks for his skin, LMP says yes and for various things he needed.

Oprah asks did she feel she was kept in the dark. LMP says no, everything was spoken, If he needed to wake her up and talk he did.
Oprah asks did he have trouble speaking then, LMP says yes, he was like a gnome, She would call him a gnome. because he was always up and about. she says he did have a hard time sleeping.

Oprah asks did she feel she was a nuturer. She says yes and she loved it. When her and MJ were together and they had an understanding about the people and things going on around him, she never felt such a high in her life.

Oprah asks she told the producers her time with MJ was the highest and the lowest of her life. Oprah asks her about the lowest. LMP skirts it and says when she speaks about him now, its all good and she was all this love and understanding for him. LMP then proceeds to try to answer Oprah's questions but of course oprah interrupts and asks were you angry with him when you left the marriage.
Yes she was very angry. She felt they were so united then he pushed her out.
Oprah asks why did the marriage ends, she said there was point when he had to make a decision her or the people around him.

Oprah asks he seemed to be drawn to people like that. LMP says like her father MJ had the luxury of creating his own reality and when people disagreed with him, you were out. She felt disposable. MJ wasn't a bad person, that's just how he functioned.
When its this unusual reality mixed with an addiction, its trouble.

Oprah then asks about the similarities between MJ and Elvis, LMP doesn't understand it but she sees it.
The home MJ died, was right across the street from Elvis' former home.

Oprah asked about the blog. and why she entitled it he knew.
she said he told her he was afraid he would end up like her father during a conversation at neverland sitting by the fire.

Oprah asks why did she fall in love with him. LMP says because he was an incredible person. She never felt so high in her life. He had something so intoxicating about him and when he was open it wasn't like anything.
Oprah then says oh I felt that too when I first met in 92 when he shined his light on you.
LMP says she always wanted to be around him. He was a drug for her. she never felt like that with another human being except her father.

Oprah asked did she feel love by Michael in the beginning. She did. she knew he didn't really have many women in his life, a few dates
Oprah asked how did he propose-- they were in the library in front of the fire at neverland, MJ pulled out a 10 carat ring, got on his knees and propsed. Oprah asked did she feel it would last forever, she said yes.

Orpah said when they were together it was like a circus. She said it was but they were together mostly with no cameras and alot of that was because History was coming out.



Oprah asks does she feel manipulated- yes but she knew she had to do his thing but she understood as his wife, she needed to do certain things.
Oprah asked was there alot of pressure to have a baby- LMP says yes and she wanted to , but she wanted to make sure things were stable.
Oprah says several months after they divorced it was announced that Debbie Rowe was pregnant.
LMP says it was a bit retalitory act on his part
She knew DR was there the whole time telling him she would have his baby, because he told her if she didn't debbie would. They would get into an arguments about it. At the time she felt hurt, she did things that hurt him. She was torn because she left her husband for Michael. While with MJ she never felt good about it. Danny was about her her life and MJ didn't know what to do with it. He was upset about the Hawaii vacation. He would leave and she couldn't find him. She says when she did things that upset MJ or when MJ got uncomfortable he would icy you out.
But in retrospect, he tried very hard and went through so much with her. He never did that with any other female or anyone. They would argue for 3 days straight breaking to eat and sleep. She admires that he gave it a good shot. she didn't appreciate it then and she wishes she did.

Did he have to die for her to realize he loved her. Yes she says when they were together they were really in love, had rough patches, she had to make a decison to walk because she saw the doctors coming and it scared her so she left but they spent 4 more years after the divorced getting back together, breaking up, talking about getting back together then she pushed him away because she wasn't moving forward.
She still loved him after she left him, She left him to make a stand and it was a stupid move because basically MJ called her bluff. He's stubborn.
Afterwards she was still flying all over the world with him.

Last spoke in a good conversation in 2005- she was removed and detached. He could feel it. He wanted to tell her she was right about the people around him. He asked did she still love him, she told him she was indifferent, he did't like it , he cried, he didn't understand how she became so detached.
Final part of conversation, him telling her he felt someone was going to try to kill him to get ahold of his catalouge and estate, He named names but she doesn't want to say but he was concerned about his life.

OPrah asks about the allegations, LMP says she did not see anyting like that.
He called LMP about the trial. She told him to keep his head together. he said like what drugs. she said yeah. There was a time random things were coming out the BAshir interview, she saw him high as a kite,
Oprah asks about the sleeping with young children comment MJ made in the bashir interview. LMP says she feels MJ says those things at times to be defiant like a little rebel because he got so angry so he would say things he knew people didn't like.
Oprah goes back to the charges. LMP says no she doesn't like they were true but of course she can never know excatly what went on in the room but she doesn't think they are true.

Did she get closure at the funeral- no. She was the last one standing up with him, she went back in because she didn't want to leave him. cue picture of her standing over the casket. She couldn't make peace, she wanted to apologize. She wanted to save him, she regrets she didn't at least try to call him or something.
FAmily and friends tried to help him but if he didn't want you around making him confront things, you wouldn't be. That was a train headed in a certain direction and no one could stop it

Oprah asks about current husband. Husband happy when she'll be done with this interview. He understands and she doesn't like it but she's had to deal with all this. She thanks God for him because it's highly unusual to deal with.

She feels really alone that she's dealt with all this with her father and Michael but honored at the same time. June 25th is a day she dreads like August 16th.
She's not talking about it again.

Damn, I gotta read it about ten or more times to get what she´s saying cause it seems she gave so many versions to so many stories.

Anyways, them arguing 3 days straight only taking breaks to eat and sleep!?!?! What was the topic?

I really don´t know what to think about this. I think I am gonna have many questions.

[Edited 10/21/10 10:21am]

Militant said:

Thanks, mookie. I feel very sad reading all that. I don't know that I'll be able to watch it without getting upset.

You´re not alone on this. I am surely gonna be filled with sooooooooooo many emotions watching it.

Oprah asks about the sleeping with young children comment MJ made in the bashir interview. LMP says she feels MJ says those things at times to be defiant like a little rebel because he got so angry so he would say things he knew people didn't like.

Oh boy. =/

I still don't know if I want to watch this. If I do, I won't be doing it on tv. I don't want to give Oprah the pleasure of having any of my ratings. I can't wait avoid her channel when it debuts.

[Edited 10/21/10 10:31am]

mookie said:

Here's another very detailed recap of the interview

the interveiw wasn't as bad as I thought. LIsa was honest for once. Some stuff I could have did without but here's a recap if can't wait till it comes on in your area.

She started out saying in past interviews she was defensive and barky when the subject of MJ came up because she was always promoting a project and the interview would turn to be about MJ or personal things. She felt like this would be better to do the interview before her record comes out

They spoke a bit about her husband and kids in the beginning and why she moved to England. She felt LA has gotten over the top in its superficiality.
Her and Oprah went hiking this summer, so they've spoken about MJ before this.

Oprah started saying the star-crossed love affair between LMP and MJ started in 1993 from friendship and grew to something more.
They had not spoken in more than a decade before he died..

She said she was barky during the last interview with Oprah about MJ because she didn't understand her relationship with him
Oprah said she understood her defensiveness but LMP came across to her and the rest of the world as confusion and publicity.

LMP said MJ was a master manipulator of the media in a lot of ways. He was brought up that way. She said before she starts answering questions about him you have to understand how he was raised which was different than anyone's except her father. He was conditioned to get himself where he needed to go for his talent. He became good at creating and puppetering. She said she always confused the manipulation as he didn't love her but she understands now it was a survival tactic for him.

She's gained all this clarity about MJ since his death.
She was in England when she first heard, she was crying all day and didn't' know why. She got the news from a friend, John Travolta text her was she alright? She was floored and shocked.

She can't explain how or why she gained all this clarity, that's why she waited so long.
She felt she failed to help him.
She didn't suspect a drug problem until Decemeber 95 when he collapsed. She said their were all these reports, low blood pressure, viral infection, dehydration, she couldn't get real answers. She felt there was drug use after various indications.
She said their were times she would pick him up from doctor's offices and he would not be coherent.
At the time she just thought it was the injections, that he would need. Oprah asks things for what. She said injections dermatological. Oprah asks for his skin, LMP says yes and for various things he needed.

Oprah asks did she feel she was kept in the dark. LMP says no, everything was spoken, If he needed to wake her up and talk he did.
Oprah asks did he have trouble speaking then, LMP says yes, he was like a gnome, She would call him a gnome. because he was always up and about. she says he did have a hard time sleeping.

Oprah asks did she feel she was a nuturer. She says yes and she loved it. When her and MJ were together and they had an understanding about the people and things going on around him, she never felt such a high in her life.

Oprah asks she told the producers her time with MJ was the highest and the lowest of her life. Oprah asks her about the lowest. LMP skirts it and says when she speaks about him now, its all good and she was all this love and understanding for him. LMP then proceeds to try to answer Oprah's questions but of course oprah interrupts and asks were you angry with him when you left the marriage.
Yes she was very angry. She felt they were so united then he pushed her out.
Oprah asks why did the marriage ends, she said there was point when he had to make a decision her or the people around him.

Oprah asks he seemed to be drawn to people like that. LMP says like her father MJ had the luxury of creating his own reality and when people disagreed with him, you were out. She felt disposable. MJ wasn't a bad person, that's just how he functioned.
When its this unusual reality mixed with an addiction, its trouble.

Oprah then asks about the similarities between MJ and Elvis, LMP doesn't understand it but she sees it.
The home MJ died, was right across the street from Elvis' former home.

Oprah asked about the blog. and why she entitled it he knew.
she said he told her he was afraid he would end up like her father during a conversation at neverland sitting by the fire.

Oprah asks why did she fall in love with him. LMP says because he was an incredible person. She never felt so high in her life. He had something so intoxicating about him and when he was open it wasn't like anything.
Oprah then says oh I felt that too when I first met in 92 when he shined his light on you.
LMP says she always wanted to be around him. He was a drug for her. she never felt like that with another human being except her father.

Oprah asked did she feel love by Michael in the beginning. She did. she knew he didn't really have many women in his life, a few dates
Oprah asked how did he propose-- they were in the library in front of the fire at neverland, MJ pulled out a 10 carat ring, got on his knees and propsed. Oprah asked did she feel it would last forever, she said yes.

Orpah said when they were together it was like a circus. She said it was but they were together mostly with no cameras and alot of that was because History was coming out.



Oprah asks does she feel manipulated- yes but she knew she had to do his thing but she understood as his wife, she needed to do certain things.
Oprah asked was there alot of pressure to have a baby- LMP says yes and she wanted to , but she wanted to make sure things were stable.
Oprah says several months after they divorced it was announced that Debbie Rowe was pregnant.
LMP says it was a bit retalitory act on his part
She knew DR was there the whole time telling him she would have his baby, because he told her if she didn't debbie would. They would get into an arguments about it. At the time she felt hurt, she did things that hurt him. She was torn because she left her husband for Michael. While with MJ she never felt good about it. Danny was about her her life and MJ didn't know what to do with it. He was upset about the Hawaii vacation. He would leave and she couldn't find him. She says when she did things that upset MJ or when MJ got uncomfortable he would icy you out.
But in retrospect, he tried very hard and went through so much with her. He never did that with any other female or anyone. They would argue for 3 days straight breaking to eat and sleep. She admires that he gave it a good shot. she didn't appreciate it then and she wishes she did.

Did he have to die for her to realize he loved her. Yes she says when they were together they were really in love, had rough patches, she had to make a decison to walk because she saw the doctors coming and it scared her so she left but they spent 4 more years after the divorced getting back together, breaking up, talking about getting back together then she pushed him away because she wasn't moving forward.
She still loved him after she left him, She left him to make a stand and it was a stupid move because basically MJ called her bluff. He's stubborn.
Afterwards she was still flying all over the world with him.

Last spoke in a good conversation in 2005- she was removed and detached. He could feel it. He wanted to tell her she was right about the people around him. He asked did she still love him, she told him she was indifferent, he did't like it , he cried, he didn't understand how she became so detached.
Final part of conversation, him telling her he felt someone was going to try to kill him to get ahold of his catalouge and estate, He named names but she doesn't want to say but he was concerned about his life.

OPrah asks about the allegations, LMP says she did not see anyting like that.
He called LMP about the trial. She told him to keep his head together. he said like what drugs. she said yeah. There was a time random things were coming out the BAshir interview, she saw him high as a kite,
Oprah asks about the sleeping with young children comment MJ made in the bashir interview. LMP says she feels MJ says those things at times to be defiant like a little rebel because he got so angry so he would say things he knew people didn't like.
Oprah goes back to the charges. LMP says no she doesn't like they were true but of course she can never know excatly what went on in the room but she doesn't think they are true.

Did she get closure at the funeral- no. She was the last one standing up with him, she went back in because she didn't want to leave him. cue picture of her standing over the casket. She couldn't make peace, she wanted to apologize. She wanted to save him, she regrets she didn't at least try to call him or something.
FAmily and friends tried to help him but if he didn't want you around making him confront things, you wouldn't be. That was a train headed in a certain direction and no one could stop it

Oprah asks about current husband. Husband happy when she'll be done with this interview. He understands and she doesn't like it but she's had to deal with all this. She thanks God for him because it's highly unusual to deal with.

She feels really alone that she's dealt with all this with her father and Michael but honored at the same time. June 25th is a day she dreads like August 16th.
She's not talking about it again.

Thanks Mookie for posting. @ LMP. She says all this stuff now, but didnt she say in another interview that marrying MJ was the biggest mistake of her life? And I know they hung out a few times after their divorce (which SHE wanted) but I believe she was romantically involved with another musician during that time. Why do I get the feeling that Lisa is deliberately saying stuff just to appease MJ fans? Its like she's been reading their comments about her online and now she wants to say things that will gain their approval of her

I wish that Oprah had interviewed Debbie Rowe instead of Lisa. I want to hear what the mother of Michael's two children has to say about how all this has affected her. I dont understand why Oprah interviewed LMP and Mike's family and kids but not Debbie Rowe. Unless she approached Rowe and she declined? DR may not be a famous celeb like LMP but she was MJ's wife too and the mother of his children. Both LNP and the Jacksons had already spoken publicly prior to their interviews with Oprah, but we have not heard anything from Debbie Rowe.

NaughtyKitty said:

mookie said:

Here's another very detailed recap of the interview

the interveiw wasn't as bad as I thought. LIsa was honest for once. Some stuff I could have did without but here's a recap if can't wait till it comes on in your area.

She started out saying in past interviews she was defensive and barky when the subject of MJ came up because she was always promoting a project and the interview would turn to be about MJ or personal things. She felt like this would be better to do the interview before her record comes out

They spoke a bit about her husband and kids in the beginning and why she moved to England. She felt LA has gotten over the top in its superficiality.
Her and Oprah went hiking this summer, so they've spoken about MJ before this.

Oprah started saying the star-crossed love affair between LMP and MJ started in 1993 from friendship and grew to something more.
They had not spoken in more than a decade before he died..

She said she was barky during the last interview with Oprah about MJ because she didn't understand her relationship with him
Oprah said she understood her defensiveness but LMP came across to her and the rest of the world as confusion and publicity.

LMP said MJ was a master manipulator of the media in a lot of ways. He was brought up that way. She said before she starts answering questions about him you have to understand how he was raised which was different than anyone's except her father. He was conditioned to get himself where he needed to go for his talent. He became good at creating and puppetering. She said she always confused the manipulation as he didn't love her but she understands now it was a survival tactic for him.

She's gained all this clarity about MJ since his death.
She was in England when she first heard, she was crying all day and didn't' know why. She got the news from a friend, John Travolta text her was she alright? She was floored and shocked.

She can't explain how or why she gained all this clarity, that's why she waited so long.
She felt she failed to help him.
She didn't suspect a drug problem until Decemeber 95 when he collapsed. She said their were all these reports, low blood pressure, viral infection, dehydration, she couldn't get real answers. She felt there was drug use after various indications.
She said their were times she would pick him up from doctor's offices and he would not be coherent.
At the time she just thought it was the injections, that he would need. Oprah asks things for what. She said injections dermatological. Oprah asks for his skin, LMP says yes and for various things he needed.

Oprah asks did she feel she was kept in the dark. LMP says no, everything was spoken, If he needed to wake her up and talk he did.
Oprah asks did he have trouble speaking then, LMP says yes, he was like a gnome, She would call him a gnome. because he was always up and about. she says he did have a hard time sleeping.

Oprah asks did she feel she was a nuturer. She says yes and she loved it. When her and MJ were together and they had an understanding about the people and things going on around him, she never felt such a high in her life.

Oprah asks she told the producers her time with MJ was the highest and the lowest of her life. Oprah asks her about the lowest. LMP skirts it and says when she speaks about him now, its all good and she was all this love and understanding for him. LMP then proceeds to try to answer Oprah's questions but of course oprah interrupts and asks were you angry with him when you left the marriage.
Yes she was very angry. She felt they were so united then he pushed her out.
Oprah asks why did the marriage ends, she said there was point when he had to make a decision her or the people around him.

Oprah asks he seemed to be drawn to people like that. LMP says like her father MJ had the luxury of creating his own reality and when people disagreed with him, you were out. She felt disposable. MJ wasn't a bad person, that's just how he functioned.
When its this unusual reality mixed with an addiction, its trouble.

Oprah then asks about the similarities between MJ and Elvis, LMP doesn't understand it but she sees it.
The home MJ died, was right across the street from Elvis' former home.

Oprah asked about the blog. and why she entitled it he knew.
she said he told her he was afraid he would end up like her father during a conversation at neverland sitting by the fire.

Oprah asks why did she fall in love with him. LMP says because he was an incredible person. She never felt so high in her life. He had something so intoxicating about him and when he was open it wasn't like anything.
Oprah then says oh I felt that too when I first met in 92 when he shined his light on you.
LMP says she always wanted to be around him. He was a drug for her. she never felt like that with another human being except her father.

Oprah asked did she feel love by Michael in the beginning. She did. she knew he didn't really have many women in his life, a few dates
Oprah asked how did he propose-- they were in the library in front of the fire at neverland, MJ pulled out a 10 carat ring, got on his knees and propsed. Oprah asked did she feel it would last forever, she said yes.

Orpah said when they were together it was like a circus. She said it was but they were together mostly with no cameras and alot of that was because History was coming out.



Oprah asks does she feel manipulated- yes but she knew she had to do his thing but she understood as his wife, she needed to do certain things.
Oprah asked was there alot of pressure to have a baby- LMP says yes and she wanted to , but she wanted to make sure things were stable.
Oprah says several months after they divorced it was announced that Debbie Rowe was pregnant.
LMP says it was a bit retalitory act on his part
She knew DR was there the whole time telling him she would have his baby, because he told her if she didn't debbie would. They would get into an arguments about it. At the time she felt hurt, she did things that hurt him. She was torn because she left her husband for Michael. While with MJ she never felt good about it. Danny was about her her life and MJ didn't know what to do with it. He was upset about the Hawaii vacation. He would leave and she couldn't find him. She says when she did things that upset MJ or when MJ got uncomfortable he would icy you out.
But in retrospect, he tried very hard and went through so much with her. He never did that with any other female or anyone. They would argue for 3 days straight breaking to eat and sleep. She admires that he gave it a good shot. she didn't appreciate it then and she wishes she did.

Did he have to die for her to realize he loved her. Yes she says when they were together they were really in love, had rough patches, she had to make a decison to walk because she saw the doctors coming and it scared her so she left but they spent 4 more years after the divorced getting back together, breaking up, talking about getting back together then she pushed him away because she wasn't moving forward.
She still loved him after she left him, She left him to make a stand and it was a stupid move because basically MJ called her bluff. He's stubborn.
Afterwards she was still flying all over the world with him.

Last spoke in a good conversation in 2005- she was removed and detached. He could feel it. He wanted to tell her she was right about the people around him. He asked did she still love him, she told him she was indifferent, he did't like it , he cried, he didn't understand how she became so detached.
Final part of conversation, him telling her he felt someone was going to try to kill him to get ahold of his catalouge and estate, He named names but she doesn't want to say but he was concerned about his life.

OPrah asks about the allegations, LMP says she did not see anyting like that.
He called LMP about the trial. She told him to keep his head together. he said like what drugs. she said yeah. There was a time random things were coming out the BAshir interview, she saw him high as a kite,
Oprah asks about the sleeping with young children comment MJ made in the bashir interview. LMP says she feels MJ says those things at times to be defiant like a little rebel because he got so angry so he would say things he knew people didn't like.
Oprah goes back to the charges. LMP says no she doesn't like they were true but of course she can never know excatly what went on in the room but she doesn't think they are true.

Did she get closure at the funeral- no. She was the last one standing up with him, she went back in because she didn't want to leave him. cue picture of her standing over the casket. She couldn't make peace, she wanted to apologize. She wanted to save him, she regrets she didn't at least try to call him or something.
FAmily and friends tried to help him but if he didn't want you around making him confront things, you wouldn't be. That was a train headed in a certain direction and no one could stop it

Oprah asks about current husband. Husband happy when she'll be done with this interview. He understands and she doesn't like it but she's had to deal with all this. She thanks God for him because it's highly unusual to deal with.

She feels really alone that she's dealt with all this with her father and Michael but honored at the same time. June 25th is a day she dreads like August 16th.
She's not talking about it again.

Thanks Mookie for posting. @ LMP. She says all this stuff now, but didnt she say in another interview that marrying MJ was the biggest mistake of her life? And I know they hung out a few times after their divorce (which SHE wanted) but I believe she was romantically involved with another musician during that time. Why do I get the feeling that Lisa is deliberately saying stuff just to appease MJ fans? Its like she's been reading their comments about her online and now she wants to say things that will gain their approval of her

Personally I don't think Lisa is the type to want to appease anyone.

Truth be told, I really believe that she needed some closure from the love and life she had with Michael.

sag10 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Thanks Mookie for posting. @ LMP. She says all this stuff now, but didnt she say in another interview that marrying MJ was the biggest mistake of her life? And I know they hung out a few times after their divorce (which SHE wanted) but I believe she was romantically involved with another musician during that time. Why do I get the feeling that Lisa is deliberately saying stuff just to appease MJ fans? Its like she's been reading their comments about her online and now she wants to say things that will gain their approval of her

Personally I don't think Lisa is the type to want to appease anyone.

Truth be told, I really believe that she needed some closure from the love and life she had with Michael.

I dont think Lisa is the type to appease ppl too, however she is dealing with alot of emotions and pain, guilt and remorse. Idk....btw didnt Michael say he proposed to Lisa over the phone? I thought I read that somewhere once. Wonder whose version is the correct one? I suppose they both could be correct, maybe Mike proposed to her in front of the fireplace later after he proposed to her on the phone?

mookie said:

Here's another very detailed recap of the interview

the interveiw wasn't as bad as I thought. LIsa was honest for once. Some stuff I could have did without but here's a recap if can't wait till it comes on in your area.

She started out saying in past interviews she was defensive and barky when the subject of MJ came up because she was always promoting a project and the interview would turn to be about MJ or personal things. She felt like this would be better to do the interview before her record comes out

They spoke a bit about her husband and kids in the beginning and why she moved to England. She felt LA has gotten over the top in its superficiality.
Her and Oprah went hiking this summer, so they've spoken about MJ before this.

Oprah started saying the star-crossed love affair between LMP and MJ started in 1993 from friendship and grew to something more.
They had not spoken in more than a decade before he died..

She said she was barky during the last interview with Oprah about MJ because she didn't understand her relationship with him
Oprah said she understood her defensiveness but LMP came across to her and the rest of the world as confusion and publicity.

LMP said MJ was a master manipulator of the media in a lot of ways. He was brought up that way. She said before she starts answering questions about him you have to understand how he was raised which was different than anyone's except her father. He was conditioned to get himself where he needed to go for his talent. He became good at creating and puppetering. She said she always confused the manipulation as he didn't love her but she understands now it was a survival tactic for him.

She's gained all this clarity about MJ since his death.
She was in England when she first heard, she was crying all day and didn't' know why. She got the news from a friend, John Travolta text her was she alright? She was floored and shocked.

She can't explain how or why she gained all this clarity, that's why she waited so long.
She felt she failed to help him.
She didn't suspect a drug problem until Decemeber 95 when he collapsed. She said their were all these reports, low blood pressure, viral infection, dehydration, she couldn't get real answers. She felt there was drug use after various indications.
She said their were times she would pick him up from doctor's offices and he would not be coherent.
At the time she just thought it was the injections, that he would need. Oprah asks things for what. She said injections dermatological. Oprah asks for his skin, LMP says yes and for various things he needed.

Oprah asks did she feel she was kept in the dark. LMP says no, everything was spoken, If he needed to wake her up and talk he did.
Oprah asks did he have trouble speaking then, LMP says yes, he was like a gnome, She would call him a gnome. because he was always up and about. she says he did have a hard time sleeping.

Oprah asks did she feel she was a nuturer. She says yes and she loved it. When her and MJ were together and they had an understanding about the people and things going on around him, she never felt such a high in her life.

Oprah asks she told the producers her time with MJ was the highest and the lowest of her life. Oprah asks her about the lowest. LMP skirts it and says when she speaks about him now, its all good and she was all this love and understanding for him. LMP then proceeds to try to answer Oprah's questions but of course oprah interrupts and asks were you angry with him when you left the marriage.
Yes she was very angry. She felt they were so united then he pushed her out.
Oprah asks why did the marriage ends, she said there was point when he had to make a decision her or the people around him.

Oprah asks he seemed to be drawn to people like that. LMP says like her father MJ had the luxury of creating his own reality and when people disagreed with him, you were out. She felt disposable. MJ wasn't a bad person, that's just how he functioned.
When its this unusual reality mixed with an addiction, its trouble.

Oprah then asks about the similarities between MJ and Elvis, LMP doesn't understand it but she sees it.
The home MJ died, was right across the street from Elvis' former home.

Oprah asked about the blog. and why she entitled it he knew.
she said he told her he was afraid he would end up like her father during a conversation at neverland sitting by the fire.

Oprah asks why did she fall in love with him. LMP says because he was an incredible person. She never felt so high in her life. He had something so intoxicating about him and when he was open it wasn't like anything.
Oprah then says oh I felt that too when I first met in 92 when he shined his light on you.
LMP says she always wanted to be around him. He was a drug for her. she never felt like that with another human being except her father.

Oprah asked did she feel love by Michael in the beginning. She did. she knew he didn't really have many women in his life, a few dates
Oprah asked how did he propose-- they were in the library in front of the fire at neverland, MJ pulled out a 10 carat ring, got on his knees and propsed. Oprah asked did she feel it would last forever, she said yes.

Orpah said when they were together it was like a circus. She said it was but they were together mostly with no cameras and alot of that was because History was coming out.



Oprah asks does she feel manipulated- yes but she knew she had to do his thing but she understood as his wife, she needed to do certain things.
Oprah asked was there alot of pressure to have a baby- LMP says yes and she wanted to , but she wanted to make sure things were stable.
Oprah says several months after they divorced it was announced that Debbie Rowe was pregnant.
LMP says it was a bit retalitory act on his part
She knew DR was there the whole time telling him she would have his baby, because he told her if she didn't debbie would. They would get into an arguments about it. At the time she felt hurt, she did things that hurt him. She was torn because she left her husband for Michael. While with MJ she never felt good about it. Danny was about her her life and MJ didn't know what to do with it. He was upset about the Hawaii vacation. He would leave and she couldn't find him. She says when she did things that upset MJ or when MJ got uncomfortable he would icy you out.
But in retrospect, he tried very hard and went through so much with her. He never did that with any other female or anyone. They would argue for 3 days straight breaking to eat and sleep. She admires that he gave it a good shot. she didn't appreciate it then and she wishes she did.

Did he have to die for her to realize he loved her. Yes she says when they were together they were really in love, had rough patches, she had to make a decison to walk because she saw the doctors coming and it scared her so she left but they spent 4 more years after the divorced getting back together, breaking up, talking about getting back together then she pushed him away because she wasn't moving forward.
She still loved him after she left him, She left him to make a stand and it was a stupid move because basically MJ called her bluff. He's stubborn.
Afterwards she was still flying all over the world with him.

Last spoke in a good conversation in 2005- she was removed and detached. He could feel it. He wanted to tell her she was right about the people around him. He asked did she still love him, she told him she was indifferent, he did't like it , he cried, he didn't understand how she became so detached.
Final part of conversation, him telling her he felt someone was going to try to kill him to get ahold of his catalouge and estate, He named names but she doesn't want to say but he was concerned about his life.

OPrah asks about the allegations, LMP says she did not see anyting like that.
He called LMP about the trial. She told him to keep his head together. he said like what drugs. she said yeah. There was a time random things were coming out the BAshir interview, she saw him high as a kite,
Oprah asks about the sleeping with young children comment MJ made in the bashir interview. LMP says she feels MJ says those things at times to be defiant like a little rebel because he got so angry so he would say things he knew people didn't like.
Oprah goes back to the charges. LMP says no she doesn't like they were true but of course she can never know excatly what went on in the room but she doesn't think they are true.

Did she get closure at the funeral- no. She was the last one standing up with him, she went back in because she didn't want to leave him. cue picture of her standing over the casket. She couldn't make peace, she wanted to apologize. She wanted to save him, she regrets she didn't at least try to call him or something.
FAmily and friends tried to help him but if he didn't want you around making him confront things, you wouldn't be. That was a train headed in a certain direction and no one could stop it

Oprah asks about current husband. Husband happy when she'll be done with this interview. He understands and she doesn't like it but she's had to deal with all this. She thanks God for him because it's highly unusual to deal with.

She feels really alone that she's dealt with all this with her father and Michael but honored at the same time. June 25th is a day she dreads like August 16th.
She's not talking about it again.

I never intended to watch this mess to begin with, but all this makes me feel even more sorry for Michael. I always knew fans over-sympathized with how she originally narrated her version of the marriage. Fans even criticized MJ for "manipulating" her. A few fans knew about her trip to Hawaii and how Mike disappeared for 6 weeks, but they always blamed him for it. Now i see some of the sh*t HE had to deal with HER. And the part about him reaching out to her and she rejecting him... breaks my heart. I feel even more sorry for what he had to deal with. I know she's slow, immature, impulsive and ungrateful... but she gained all this clarity NOW?!

And what's with this casket picture? They showed it?!!

[Edited 10/21/10 13:47pm]

Can you imagine Oprah farting in the middle of her live interview with Michael Jackson? And then putting the blame on the chair she was sit/on the staff/on Michael?

That greatly describes MJ's relationship with Lisa Presley. Except that, in their case, both farted.

Or not, because famous people don't fart. And beatiful women.

Take it!

Watch it quick!

I dunno where to find the other parts.

[Edited 10/21/10 14:18pm]

ali23 said:

Take it!

Watch it quick!

I dunno where to find the other parts.

[Edited 10/21/10 14:18pm]

Here

I´ve just watched it and I am crying like crazy. What it revealed to me was something I always knew (I know it may sound weird or stupid, but I really did). Whatever she said in the past, I knew she loved him more than anyone else in her life and I am glad she revealed certain things about their marriage (made me sooooooooo jealous of her. ). The only thing I regret about this interview is that they keep on refering to drugs as if he was on cocain or whatever.