As far as performing, singing, composing and writing music, JB was a genius...but his personal opinions aren't worth a nickel to me. He was an excellent musician, but behind closed doors, a controlling, possessive and hypocritical maniac. I'd rather just listen to his music than to hear him judge other musician's performances.

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That makes JB look not only a moron but a hypocrite. Going on about family entertainment etc-he's just a bloody liar. Funk in essence is about sex-and there is nothing wrong with that-its a dirty groove. He is so flaming typical of a Republican-same as Tories in the UK-banging on about values in public-then going home to their cellars and putting on their gimp masks.

And to endorse MJ over P...... jeez

I think JB was jealous of Prince

Timmy84 said:

Harlepolis said:

Yeah, I'm more amazed by the fact that he became a republican though JAMES BROWN! who would've thought? After the shit he have been through.

He was a Republican long before though lol remember the Nixon shit?

Yeah, but Stevie was invited/honored by Nixon too and he isn't a Republican.

Even his music(James) defied what the Republican machine stands/stood for, it seems like an oxymoron to me.

Bill Cosby ironically is a democrat and all this time I thought he was a conservative Republican.

jcurley said:

That makes JB look not only a moron but a hypocrite. Going on about family entertainment etc-he's just a bloody liar. Funk in essence is about sex-and there is nothing wrong with that-its a dirty groove. He is so flaming typical of a Republican-same as Tories in the UK-banging on about values in public-then going home to their cellars and putting on their gimp masks.

And to endorse MJ over P...... jeez

I think JB was jealous of Prince

You gotta remember MJ and JB shared a very intimate paternal relationship. And JB knew him ever since he was a little kid. Its kinda like a God Father endorsing his God son, over some random performer (Prince,) No matter how great the other performer is, nepotism always wins.

JB wasn't jealous, like most people he comes from a strong Gospel tradition, not a fan of explicit sexuality. Doesn't mean he's not explicit in his personal life.

He will always be the eternal pimp, in my eyes

laurarichardson said:

jaybendy said:

Michael didn't make Prince have Chick carry him to the front, try to play a guitar that was way too big for him, take off his jacket and gyrate all over the stage, then pull down a lamp post prop. Prince did that all on his own.

Wow you MJ fans are fucking clueless. Mike had to know P was drunk (which is what it looks like to me) and many people have said Mike was a little slick manipulator. Look at what he did to Terrence Trent Darby. MJ is not the angel that a lot of his fans think he was.

Drunk or not Michael didn't MAKE Prince make an ass of hiimself on that stage.

Prince wan't drunk, he was nervous, unprepared and out of his element. He doesn't usually do well in siuations over which he has no control and that little impromptu stage "performance" certainly qualifies.

I certainly don't think Mike was an angel, but Prince was responsible for his OWN actions on that stage.

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Harlepolis said:

Timmy84 said:

He was a Republican long before though lol remember the Nixon shit?

Yeah, but Stevie was invited/honored by Nixon too and he isn't a Republican.

Even his music(James) defied what the Republican machine stands/stood for, it seems like an oxymoron to me.

Bill Cosby ironically is a democrat and all this time I thought he was a conservative Republican.

That just goes to show you don't judge a book by its cover.

jcurley said:

That makes JB look not only a moron but a hypocrite. Going on about family entertainment etc-he's just a bloody liar. Funk in essence is about sex-and there is nothing wrong with that-its a dirty groove. He is so flaming typical of a Republican-same as Tories in the UK-banging on about values in public-then going home to their cellars and putting on their gimp masks.

And to endorse MJ over P...... jeez

I think JB was jealous of Prince

It's a good possibility. It is two-faced to talk about being wholesome in public but you're living a shady life off it. I love James' music but the brother was fucked up lol

James was the man................good thing Prince was his OWN man.

jcurley said:

That makes JB look not only a moron but a hypocrite. Going on about family entertainment etc-he's just a bloody liar. Funk in essence is about sex-and there is nothing wrong with that-its a dirty groove. He is so flaming typical of a Republican-same as Tories in the UK-banging on about values in public-then going home to their cellars and putting on their gimp masks.

And to endorse MJ over P...... jeez

I think JB was jealous of Prince

Mike in '83? pure fire on stage my friend.

What was that? 30 seconds and out. sing, remove glasses, tornado spin, replace glasses, signature move. hugs. Cool as fuck.

JB'd been watching MJ since the late 60's. Probably loved his Motown audition too. hence the endorsement

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Marrk said:

jcurley said:

That makes JB look not only a moron but a hypocrite. Going on about family entertainment etc-he's just a bloody liar. Funk in essence is about sex-and there is nothing wrong with that-its a dirty groove. He is so flaming typical of a Republican-same as Tories in the UK-banging on about values in public-then going home to their cellars and putting on their gimp masks.

And to endorse MJ over P...... jeez

I think JB was jealous of Prince

Mike in '83? pure fire on stage my friend.

What was that? 30 seconds and out. sing, remove glasses, tornado spin, replace glasses, signature move. hugs. Cool as fuck.

JB'd been watching MJ since the late 60's. Probably loved his Motown audition too. hence the endorsement

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James first noticed him around '67 so yeah.

jaybendy said:

laurarichardson said:

Wow you MJ fans are fucking clueless. Mike had to know P was drunk (which is what it looks like to me) and many people have said Mike was a little slick manipulator. Look at what he did to Terrence Trent Darby. MJ is not the angel that a lot of his fans think he was.

Drunk or not Michael didn't MAKE Prince make an ass of hiimself on that stage.

Prince wan't drunk, he was nervous, unprepared and out of his element. He doesn't usually do well in siuations over which he has no control and that little impromptu stage "performance" certainly qualifies.

I certainly don't think Mike was an angel, but Prince was responsible for his OWN actions on that stage.

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If you do not think P was drunk off his ass you need glasses. He has jumped on the stage with performancers before and managed not to knock over a stage prop and he looked like he was going to fall over coming to the stage. I am not sure how responsible you are for your own actions when you are bombed out of your mind.

Neversin said:

laurarichardson said:

Wow you MJ fans are fucking clueless. Mike had to know P was drunk (which is what it looks like to me) and many people have said Mike was a little slick manipulator.

Prince wasn't drunk he was sober as fuck and didn't move and say a word on the ride home from that gig after the fiasco (per Bobby Z.)...

He tried to impress JB on stage with the mic move when JB looked away and didn't see it, that fucked Prince up the most... He just didn't know what to do in front of JB...

Neversin.

( didn't move and say a word on the ride home from that gig) might be due to being in a canatonic stage of drunkness but keep drinking the MJ Koolaid.

laurarichardson said:

Neversin said:

Prince wasn't drunk he was sober as fuck and didn't move and say a word on the ride home from that gig after the fiasco (per Bobby Z.)...

He tried to impress JB on stage with the mic move when JB looked away and didn't see it, that fucked Prince up the most... He just didn't know what to do in front of JB...

Neversin.

( didn't move and say a word on the ride home from that gig) might be due to being in a canatonic stage of drunkness but keep drinking the MJ Koolaid.

Neversin and MJ Koolaid? you must be joking.

He never appears in MJ threads, or ever talks about him and he hasn't on this occasion either.

MJ's vocals were on fire , he destroyed the stage ,and got all the attention....

while prince...........................................next!

I see where this thread is heading......

gets on Huffy and rides away

bboy87 said:

I see where this thread is heading......

gets on Huffy and rides away

I'm not the culprit

MJ forever

And long live prince

bboy87 said:

I see where this thread is heading......

gets on Huffy and rides away

I'm in Huffy's coach!

bboy87 said:

I see where this thread is heading......

gets on Huffy and rides away

Boy go on the Cadillac. Marrk as he just said is riding the Huffy. Let's go!

Prince was just being weird for the sake of it, he looks more drugged out than drunk imo

PDogz said:

jaybendy said:

And I'm guessing these comments were made after Prince pulled down the lamppost at that James Brown concert.

And I bet Michael KNEW Prince was fucked-up when he whispered in James' ear to ask Prince to come to the stage. I mean; Prince is responsible for his own behavior, but I think Michael set him up that night, lol.

But was Prince really fucked up that night? I mean, I´ve seen that clip many many times and I know Prince acts a bit weird in it but still, I can´t really see any 100% sign of him being drunk or high that night. He went on stage, fooled around a bit, played a bit of guitar and that´s it.

Do you think he had taken something that night?

jaybendy said:

laurarichardson said:

Wow you MJ fans are fucking clueless. Mike had to know P was drunk (which is what it looks like to me) and many people have said Mike was a little slick manipulator. Look at what he did to Terrence Trent Darby. MJ is not the angel that a lot of his fans think he was.

Drunk or not Michael didn't MAKE Prince make an ass of hiimself on that stage.

Prince wan't drunk, he was nervous, unprepared and out of his element. He doesn't usually do well in siuations over which he has no control and that little impromptu stage "performance" certainly qualifies.

I certainly don't think Mike was an angel, but Prince was responsible for his OWN actions on that stage.

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I´m probably the only one who finds nothing wrong with Prince´s performance that night. Very unspectacular but still....not really embarrassing. Goes up on stage reluctantly and unexpectedly, picks up a guitar that is not his own, etc.

All in all, pretty normal considering the circumstances.

KoolEaze said:

PDogz said:

And I bet Michael KNEW Prince was fucked-up when he whispered in James' ear to ask Prince to come to the stage. I mean; Prince is responsible for his own behavior, but I think Michael set him up that night, lol.

But was Prince really fucked up that night? I mean, I´ve seen that clip many many times and I know Prince acts a bit weird in it but still, I can´t really see any 100% sign of him being drunk or high that night. He went on stage, fooled around a bit, played a bit of guitar and that´s it.

Do you think he had taken something that night?

He just didn't know what to do.....

the scream he did was funny tho.......

[No vids with Prince in them snip - luv4u]

jcurley said:

That makes JB look not only a moron but a hypocrite. Going on about family entertainment etc-he's just a bloody liar. Funk in essence is about sex-and there is nothing wrong with that-its a dirty groove. He is so flaming typical of a Republican-same as Tories in the UK-banging on about values in public-then going home to their cellars and putting on their gimp masks.

And to endorse MJ over P...... jeez

I think JB was jealous of Prince

I doubt JB was jelous of Prince

LittleBLUECorvette said:

jcurley said:

That makes JB look not only a moron but a hypocrite. Going on about family entertainment etc-he's just a bloody liar. Funk in essence is about sex-and there is nothing wrong with that-its a dirty groove. He is so flaming typical of a Republican-same as Tories in the UK-banging on about values in public-then going home to their cellars and putting on their gimp masks.

And to endorse MJ over P...... jeez

I think JB was jealous of Prince

I doubt JB was jelous of Prince

I doubt it also. It doesn't make sense

bboy87 said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I doubt JB was jelous of Prince

I doubt it also. It doesn't make sense

Plus Prince was a different animal in those days. I doubt James was looking at Prince in the way he looked at Michael probably. Prince wasn't trying to be James Brown's heir, he was trying to present himself to the public. This is what Prince was by 1983 so they weren't at all comparable.

laurarichardson said:

( didn't move and say a word on the ride home from that gig) might be due to being in a canatonic stage of drunkness but keep drinking the MJ Koolaid.

lol There's so much wrong with your post where does one even begin? How can you even try to argue something to which you have no clue of? No one knows Prince's state of sobriety at that point in time, except for the man himself. You were not there. Nor do you know if MJ knew anything about Prince's state of sobriety at that point either. No one knows except for the parties there. Stop acting like you aren't talking out of your ass.

laurarichardson said:

jaybendy said:

Drunk or not Michael didn't MAKE Prince make an ass of hiimself on that stage.

Prince wan't drunk, he was nervous, unprepared and out of his element. He doesn't usually do well in siuations over which he has no control and that little impromptu stage "performance" certainly qualifies.

I certainly don't think Mike was an angel, but Prince was responsible for his OWN actions on that stage.

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If you do not think P was drunk off his ass you need glasses. He has jumped on the stage with performancers before and managed not to knock over a stage prop and he looked like he was going to fall over coming to the stage. I am not sure how responsible you are for your own actions when you are bombed out of your mind.

Drunk or not drunk - the point is Michael didn't MAKE Prince do what he did. As a drunkard, Prince could've passed on out on stage (still not MJ's fault), Prince could've tripped (still not MJ's fault) or he could've walked around, sang beautifully, do an amazing guitar solo and walk off that stage wtih a swag (still not MJ's fault)... You're concluding that Michael controlled his behavior. On your last point, you are 100% responsible for your OWN action when you are bombed out of your mind.

In my opinion, I don't think Prince was drunk. He's acted this hyper in his own shows, if you ever saw a real Prince show. Yes, it was impromtu and he was messy and all over the place. Not a big deal. To me, it was all very funny.

seeingvoices12 said:

[No vids with Prince in them snip - luv4u]

:lol

WOW Mike!!.... Like Mike needed Prince 'drunk' to show him up - haha. Who n the hell moves like Mike?!! He's moving like a tornado up there. Singing like a damn bird.