Great podcast I found. Now Joe I know you won't agree with what dude is saying comparing Stevie & Marvin but hey opinions are respected. Hell you showed SOME appreciation mentioning "20 timeless classics". That's enough for ANY artist.
Timmy you're a relative youngling, how'd you get into Marv?
I think I got into him indirectly through hearing him on my dad's car radio. Then it kinda grew from just viewing him and his music on TV. It was his LEGENDS documentary in 1996 when VH-1 was cool that I first really got deep into his music. Two or three years passed before I bought his What's Going On album, then around Christmas 2000, I got his Anthology set, shortly after that it was Let's Get It On, then it just grew from there.
That album is actually the reason I became LOYAL to Marvin. I had admired him and even called myself a fan after buying the anthology set but after getting this album, I was fucking sold on the brother.
That album is actually the reason I became LOYAL to Marvin. I had admired him and even called myself a fan after buying the anthology set but after getting this album, I was fucking sold on the brother.
Yes sir, I like this period of Marivn.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
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Hehehe, Marvin was GREAT as a singles artist, that's why I said he has, at least, 20 timeless classics but GROUNDBREAKING albums, hmm, WGO and LGIO, and that's all...
In other words, he's the "Elvis" of soul/R&B music: awesome voice, a truckload of golden singles, but "just" 2-3 groundbreaking albums...I understand why so many people consider I Want You, Here My Dear and Midnite Love as classics , I just think those three albums are very good, but certainly not classics as WGO or LGIO...
Timmy you're a relative youngling, how'd you get into Marv?
I think I got into him indirectly through hearing him on my dad's car radio. Then it kinda grew from just viewing him and his music on TV. It was his LEGENDS documentary in 1996 when VH-1 was cool that I first really got deep into his music. Two or three years passed before I bought his What's Going On album, then around Christmas 2000, I got his Anthology set, shortly after that it was Let's Get It On, then it just grew from there.
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Cool. I know you love a lot of old-school Motown acts, does it impact you liking more modern stuff. I mean you can't get more on point vocals and musicianship than back then. There is still quality about if you look, i accept that, but to me, there's just a huge massive gulf in class.
Hehehe, Marvin was GREAT as a singles artist, that's why I said he has, at least, 20 timeless classics but GROUNDBREAKING albums, hmm, WGO and LGIO, and that's all...
In other words, he's the "Elvis" of soul/R&B music: awesome voice, a truckload of golden singles, but "just" 2-3 groundbreaking albums...I understand why so many people consider I Want You, Here My Dear and Midnite Love as classics , I just think those three albums are very good, but certainly not classics as WGO or LGIO...
Groundbreaking albums? all the legends get one or two tops only.
WGO regularly comes top three in critics all time list, regularly the highest placed album by a black artist, regularly far above anything by Wonder, Prince, MJ, JB and Sly.
Hehehe, Marvin was GREAT as a singles artist, that's why I said he has, at least, 20 timeless classics but GROUNDBREAKING albums, hmm, WGO and LGIO, and that's all...
In other words, he's the "Elvis" of soul/R&B music: awesome voice, a truckload of golden singles, but "just" 2-3 groundbreaking albums...I understand why so many people consider I Want You, Here My Dear and Midnite Love as classics , I just think those three albums are very good, but certainly not classics as WGO or LGIO...
Groundbreaking albums? all the legends get one or two tops only.
WGO regularly comes top three in critics all time list, regularly the highest placed album by a black artist, regularly far above anything by Wonder, Prince, MJ, JB and Sly.
Did i say regularly?
If Prince albums do not rank higher than WGO is because Prince is an artist from the 80s, a decade which still makes "serious" () critics wonder if it was a truly groundbreaking decade or just some wasted years full of flashy synths/drum-machines and expensive videoclips.
In my eyes, Prince has FIVE (no less) TIMELESS-GROUNDBREAKING albums: DM, 1999, PR, Parade and SOTT. The same can be said about Stevie.
That said, WGO is like the best soul album of all time, of course ; but I can't see why anyone would rank I Want You,Midnite Love or even Let's Get It On higher than 1999, SOTT, Talking Book, Innervisions or There's a Riot Goin' On in an all time list...
Groundbreaking albums? all the legends get one or two tops only.
WGO regularly comes top three in critics all time list, regularly the highest placed album by a black artist, regularly far above anything by Wonder, Prince, MJ, JB and Sly.
Did i say regularly?
If Prince albums do not rank higher than WGO is because Prince is an artist from the 80s, a decade which still makes "serious" () critics wonder if it was a truly groundbreaking decade or just some wasted years full of flashy synths/drum-machines and expensive videoclips.
In my eyes, Prince has FIVE (no less) TIMELESS-GROUNDBREAKING albums: DM, 1999, PR, Parade and SOTT. The same can be said about Stevie.
That said, WGO is like the best soul album of all time, of course ; but I can't see why anyone would rank I Want You,Midnite Love or even Let's Get It On higher than 1999, SOTT, Talking Book, Innervisions or There's a Riot Goin' On in an all time list...
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It could be the serious content of WGO that puts it up there, an important message conveyed, not just the timeframe it was made in. Obviously, politically there was a load of shit still going down Stateside in terms of race and 'breaking free'. That's what makes Sly's 'Riot' so great and important too.
To be fair P's content is frivolous in comparison.
If Prince albums do not rank higher than WGO is because Prince is an artist from the 80s, a decade which still makes "serious" () critics wonder if it was a truly groundbreaking decade or just some wasted years full of flashy synths/drum-machines and expensive videoclips.
In my eyes, Prince has FIVE (no less) TIMELESS-GROUNDBREAKING albums: DM, 1999, PR, Parade and SOTT. The same can be said about Stevie.
That said, WGO is like the best soul album of all time, of course ; but I can't see why anyone would rank I Want You,Midnite Love or even Let's Get It On higher than 1999, SOTT, Talking Book, Innervisions or There's a Riot Goin' On in an all time list...
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It could be the serious content of WGO that puts it up there, an important message conveyed, not just the timeframe it was made in. Obviously, politically there was a load of shit still going down Stateside in terms of race and 'breaking free'. That's what makes Sly's 'Riot' so great and important too.
To be fair P's content is frivolous in comparison.
ok, true; but than only reinforces the idea that Marvin wouldn't be much respected if not for WGO. Even without 1999 and PR, Prince still has SOTT, which is not frivolous at all...Who is Marvin Gaye without WGO? Just a singles artist. Hell, if a serious magazine ranks WGO as the third best album of all time, SOTT should be the tenth...
It could be the serious content of WGO that puts it up there, an important message conveyed, not just the timeframe it was made in. Obviously, politically there was a load of shit still going down Stateside in terms of race and 'breaking free'. That's what makes Sly's 'Riot' so great and important too.
To be fair P's content is frivolous in comparison.
ok, true; but than only reinforces the idea that Marvin wouldn't be much respected if not for WGO. Even without 1999 and PR, Prince still has SOTT, which is not frivolous at all...Who is Marvin Gaye without WGO? Just a singles artist. Hell, if a serious magazine ranks WGO as the third best album of all time, SOTT should be the tenth...
To be fair, albums as whles and nit just a collection of singles were just starting to be a common thin in 1970 when What's Goin' On Was Created.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
-----
Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
It could be the serious content of WGO that puts it up there, an important message conveyed, not just the timeframe it was made in. Obviously, politically there was a load of shit still going down Stateside in terms of race and 'breaking free'. That's what makes Sly's 'Riot' so great and important too.
To be fair P's content is frivolous in comparison.
ok, true; but than only reinforces the idea that Marvin wouldn't be much respected if not for WGO. Even without 1999 and PR, Prince still has SOTT, which is not frivolous at all...Who is Marvin Gaye without WGO? Just a singles artist. Hell, if a serious magazine ranks WGO as the third best album of all time, SOTT should be the tenth...
Agreed to some extent, and that's why SOTT needs it's quiet CD ass remastering with the quickness.
ok, true; but than only reinforces the idea that Marvin wouldn't be much respected if not for WGO. Even without 1999 and PR, Prince still has SOTT, which is not frivolous at all...Who is Marvin Gaye without WGO? Just a singles artist. Hell, if a serious magazine ranks WGO as the third best album of all time, SOTT should be the tenth...
To be fair, albums as whles and nit just a collection of singles were just starting to be a common thin in 1970 when What's Goin' On Was Created.
I think i got that. WGO was a different beast entirely.
I think I got into him indirectly through hearing him on my dad's car radio. Then it kinda grew from just viewing him and his music on TV. It was his LEGENDS documentary in 1996 when VH-1 was cool that I first really got deep into his music. Two or three years passed before I bought his What's Going On album, then around Christmas 2000, I got his Anthology set, shortly after that it was Let's Get It On, then it just grew from there.
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Cool. I know you love a lot of old-school Motown acts, does it impact you liking more modern stuff. I mean you can't get more on point vocals and musicianship than back then. There is still quality about if you look, i accept that, but to me, there's just a huge massive gulf in class.
I really don't think of "modern music" that much when it comes to Motown. It's just the way it is. It IS modern music so I still like music of this era, the GOOD music lol
And that's enough to appreciate him. I won't compare him to other artists though. That ain't fair. Like Prince, Stevie and 'em, Marvin is in his own world. To compare them will belittle each of them IMHO.
To be fair, albums as whles and nit just a collection of singles were just starting to be a common thin in 1970 when What's Goin' On Was Created.
I think i got that. WGO was a different beast entirely.
Plus it focused on issues relating to the times in a way that other albums didn't at that time. He inspired Stevie too. I remember hearing somewhere that Stevie actually gave one of his Grammys to Marvin because he felt Marvin was robbed of a Grammy Award after the success of "What's Going On".
I think i got that. WGO was a different beast entirely.
Plus it focused on issues relating to the times in a way that other albums didn't at that time. He inspired Stevie too. I remember hearing somewhere that Stevie actually gave one of his Grammys to Marvin because he felt Marvin was robbed of a Grammy Award after the success of "What's Going On".
That's terrific. Stevie recognized that Marvin, like he is, was one of a kind and a true "wonder."
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Plus it focused on issues relating to the times in a way that other albums didn't at that time. He inspired Stevie too. I remember hearing somewhere that Stevie actually gave one of his Grammys to Marvin because he felt Marvin was robbed of a Grammy Award after the success of "What's Going On".
That's terrific. Stevie recognized that Marvin, like he is, was one of a kind and a true "wonder."
And Marvin showed it back, he said at one time "who in their right mind would challenge Stevie Wonder" when talking about Stevie's five albums between 1972 and 1976.
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) critics wonder if it was a truly groundbreaking decade or just some wasted years full of flashy synths/drum-machines and expensive videoclips. 
; but I can't see why anyone would rank I Want You, Midnite Love or even Let's Get It On higher than 1999, SOTT, Talking Book, Innervisions or There's a Riot Goin' On in an all time list...
