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Reply #540 posted 10/05/10 6:41pm

MyLuv229

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ViintageJunkiie said:

ali23 said:

IKR!?

True, but these kids can't live behind Spiderman masks for their entire lives. IF MJ was here, there was going to come a time when the kids were going to tell him they didn't wanna wear them anymore. They're growing up.

I think Michael himself was going to show his kids to the world on stage at one of his performances. He said this as early as 2005 that he wanted to introduce them. I think the spider-man masks were when they were young. I honestly don't blame him for doing that.. can you imagine the world scrutinizing those kids when they were just under the age of 10?! Think about how much they're scrutinzed now. Imagine what would be written about them post-2005 and how their pics woud be distributed. I think in the last few years or so, they went around in baseball caps. Now that the kids are close to being young teenagers, I think they were raised strong enough to handle it (as Michael himself had planned)

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Reply #541 posted 10/05/10 6:44pm

Timmy84

MyLuv229 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

True, but these kids can't live behind Spiderman masks for their entire lives. IF MJ was here, there was going to come a time when the kids were going to tell him they didn't wanna wear them anymore. They're growing up.

I think Michael himself was going to show his kids to the world on stage at one of his performances. He said this as early as 2005 that he wanted to introduce them. I think the spider-man masks were when they were young. I honestly don't blame him for doing that.. can you imagine the world scrutinizing those kids when they were just under the age of 10?! Think about how much they're scrutinzed now. Imagine what would be written about them post-2005 and how their pics woud be distributed. I think in the last few years or so, they went around in baseball caps. Now that the kids are close to being young teenagers, I think they were raised strong enough to handle it (as Michael himself had planned)

That's true too.

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Reply #542 posted 10/05/10 6:51pm

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Vanilli said:

Whenever I see pics of Michael's kids out with the fam...I can't help but wonder what he would think. I can't help but what MJ would think. I just feel like, to a large degree, his parenting techniques/ideas are being undermined. He went to great lengths to assure they didn't have to grow up being known by the media, and once he passes, it is like a daily occurrence. I can't go one week without seeing photos of them. Kinda saddens me.

IKR!?

I understand Michael's reason for protecting the kids the way he did, but I also understand why Ms. Katherine is allowing them to go out in public. It's not good for them to be isolated from the world. They have to learn to deal with the cards they have been dealt, which is being in the public eye because of who their father was.

What I'm saying is don't pass judgment on the Jackson family or Michael for their decision on how to raise the kids.

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Reply #543 posted 10/05/10 7:05pm

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Vanilli said:

Watching Moonwalker tonight

It's gonna be weird without him.

He saved our lives...

I'm gonna miss him

Watching Moonwalker has me kinda choked up tonight. Everything

these kids said at the end of this film, makes me think of his passing.

All those feelings just cut to the core of how I feel when I think of him.

But the one that rings the most true is.... "i wish he'd come back."

I remember seeing Facebook groups shortly after MJ's passing called

"If we all cry at the same time maybe Michael will come back"...watching

this just made me realize how strong of an impact Michael will forever have

on my life through his art, and for just being so strong, so talented, and such

a generous person.

Moving on....Random question about Moonwalker

1) On the building MJ walks out of it is called "Michael's Music." Was

there a subplot we didn't know about? If so, explain.

MJ is so cool. Not even Spider-Man could save the day

and perform a sold out concert. I love Moonwalker. It and Batman 89

were my childhood movies!!!!!

Can't remember the building LOL. Such a bizarre movie thats chock full of ego that only Mike could get away with (well he didn't with critics LOL). Not surprising no studio would touch the film LOL. Mike paid for it himself.

I love the faux Spielberg "Smooth criminal" segment (the whole 30 minutes or so, not just the video). As a kid growing up with that movie, it was something else. I remember BBC use to show it quite alot aswell, so it must of been popular. It's certainly a movie I remember alot of people around my age seeing (Iam 24 now). Shame they cocked up the blu ray. Iam not getting it until they at least leave it uncut. It beggers belief why the estate did this:-

So pathetic. Like Mike would of even cared. Its one of the best bits of the movie LOL. I love Joe Pesci.

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Reply #544 posted 10/05/10 7:50pm

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Michael wouldn't like his kids in the public eye and trust me I was all about not exposing the kids last year with the grammy's etc but eventually it was going to happen. I'm not really bother by it now to be honest. Wish his kids the best.

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Reply #545 posted 10/05/10 8:04pm

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WAIT WAIT WAIT. The edited the drugs line out of Joe Pesci's mouth? WTF

That is stupid. That new edit sucks. I was just thinking of buying the blu ray of

Moonwalker today. So much for that dumb idea. I'll stick with my bootleg DVD.

Ugh. Why take out that line? SERIOUSLY. Not cool! confused

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Reply #546 posted 10/05/10 9:06pm

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ali23 said:

I fell in love at 0:29

oh god all i want for christmas is the Bad Tour on dvd or blu ray!
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #547 posted 10/05/10 9:08pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

Listing price: $28,995,000
Interior: 17,171 sqft
Bedrooms: 7
Bathrooms: 13

Although the listing price has dropped more than $9 million from 2008, it is also infamously the home where Michael Jackson passed away last year, which could potentially either lure or scare away buyers. Although Jackson did not own the home, he was renting it for a reported $100,000 per month while he rehearshed his "This is It" tour.

This French Chateau is located in the Holmby Hills area of Los Angeles and includes a "glamorous" theater room, wine cellar, elevator, gym, guest house, a pool and expansive gardens on the 1.26 acre property. The home also features 12 fireplaces and an indoor spa.

In order to even view the home, interested buyers must go through an extensive "pre-buying" check, to avoid any paparazzi.

I wonder why these big houses always have more bathrooms than bedrooms? confuse

i wonder the same thing too lol
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Reply #548 posted 10/05/10 11:45pm

Claire73

thesexofit said:

Vanilli said:

Watching Moonwalker tonight

It's gonna be weird without him.

He saved our lives...

I'm gonna miss him

Watching Moonwalker has me kinda choked up tonight. Everything

these kids said at the end of this film, makes me think of his passing.

All those feelings just cut to the core of how I feel when I think of him.

But the one that rings the most true is.... "i wish he'd come back."

I remember seeing Facebook groups shortly after MJ's passing called

"If we all cry at the same time maybe Michael will come back"...watching

this just made me realize how strong of an impact Michael will forever have

on my life through his art, and for just being so strong, so talented, and such

a generous person.

Moving on....Random question about Moonwalker

1) On the building MJ walks out of it is called "Michael's Music." Was

there a subplot we didn't know about? If so, explain.

MJ is so cool. Not even Spider-Man could save the day

and perform a sold out concert. I love Moonwalker. It and Batman 89

were my childhood movies!!!!!

Can't remember the building LOL. Such a bizarre movie thats chock full of ego that only Mike could get away with (well he didn't with critics LOL). Not surprising no studio would touch the film LOL. Mike paid for it himself.

I love the faux Spielberg "Smooth criminal" segment (the whole 30 minutes or so, not just the video). As a kid growing up with that movie, it was something else. I remember BBC use to show it quite alot aswell, so it must of been popular. It's certainly a movie I remember alot of people around my age seeing (Iam 24 now). Shame they cocked up the blu ray. Iam not getting it until they at least leave it uncut. It beggers belief why the estate did this:-

So pathetic. Like Mike would of even cared. Its one of the best bits of the movie LOL. I love Joe Pesci.

Is this the US version or something because i'm pretty sure I saw it on the UK blu ray.....going to have to check now confused confused confused

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Reply #550 posted 10/06/10 6:18am

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mimi07 said:

ali23 said:

I fell in love at 0:29

oh god all i want for christmas is the Bad Tour on dvd or blu ray!

Yeah,and not Yokohama either!

I want either Kansas City or Wembley!

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Reply #551 posted 10/06/10 8:36am

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I was watching Liza Minelli on LKL last night. She was so sweet when she talked about Michael. Good lady she is. She mentioned that Michael took some medication for pain in his legs, knees and feet. I wonder what that could be from really? The toe-stand dance move? The lupus? Or just years of strenuous dancing? I noticed he didn't do it once on TII.

Poor Mikey in pain...sad

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Reply #552 posted 10/06/10 9:50am

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SherryJackson said:

I was watching Liza Minelli on LKL last night. She was so sweet when she talked about Michael. Good lady she is. She mentioned that Michael took some medication for pain in his legs, knees and feet. I wonder what that could be from really? The toe-stand dance move? The lupus? Or just years of strenuous dancing? I noticed he didn't do it once on TII.

Poor Mikey in pain...sad

Precisely. Honestly, I've always figured he had to take SOME TYPE of pain relieving medication because of the hard way he danced, but not just for his legs, but for his head, neck, chest, waist, darn-near his entire body. I've never been able to look at how he whipped his head back without flinching and gripping my seat, along with some of his other moves. It LOOKS beautiful and exciting, but it just had to have felt terrible after awhile. You don't dance sharply/violently like him and not feel occasional, or most likely chronic pain, especially after doing it for over 20 years.

That's why all these wack people who have been calling Michael a drug addict aren't even aware: If any of them had ever attempted to dance like him ONCE in their lives, they would have ended up in an emergency room sedated and loaded with NSAIDs.

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Reply #553 posted 10/06/10 10:00am

Timmy84

WaterInYourBath said:

SherryJackson said:

I was watching Liza Minelli on LKL last night. She was so sweet when she talked about Michael. Good lady she is. She mentioned that Michael took some medication for pain in his legs, knees and feet. I wonder what that could be from really? The toe-stand dance move? The lupus? Or just years of strenuous dancing? I noticed he didn't do it once on TII.

Poor Mikey in pain...sad

Precisely. Honestly, I've always figured he had to take SOME TYPE of pain relieving medication because of the hard way he danced, but not just for his legs, but for his head, neck, chest, waist, darn-near his entire body. I've never been able to look at how he whipped his head back without flinching and gripping my seat, along with some of his other moves. It LOOKS beautiful and exciting, but it just had to have felt terrible after awhile. You don't dance sharply/violently like him and not feel occasional, or most likely chronic pain, especially after doing it for over 20 years.

That's why all these wack people who have been calling Michael a drug addict aren't even aware: If any of them had ever attempted to dance like him ONCE in their lives, they would have ended up in an emergency room sedated and loaded with NSAIDs.

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Reply #554 posted 10/06/10 10:06am

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WaterInYourBath said:

SherryJackson said:

I was watching Liza Minelli on LKL last night. She was so sweet when she talked about Michael. Good lady she is. She mentioned that Michael took some medication for pain in his legs, knees and feet. I wonder what that could be from really? The toe-stand dance move? The lupus? Or just years of strenuous dancing? I noticed he didn't do it once on TII.

Poor Mikey in pain...sad

Precisely. Honestly, I've always figured he had to take SOME TYPE of pain relieving medication because of the hard way he danced, but not just for his legs, but for his head, neck, chest, waist, darn-near his entire body. I've never been able to look at how he whipped his head back without flinching and gripping my seat, along with some of his other moves. It LOOKS beautiful and exciting, but it just had to have felt terrible after awhile. You don't dance sharply/violently like him and not feel occasional, or most likely chronic pain, especially after doing it for over 20 years.

That's why all these wack people who have been calling Michael a drug addict aren't even aware: If any of them had ever attempted to dance like him ONCE in their lives, they would have ended up in an emergency room sedated and loaded with NSAIDs.

Thanks for saying that. On top of that the lupus, vitiligo, the Pepsi incident, hurting his back...chronic insomnia...And I also believe the spiritual pain from genuinely caring about the planet manifested itself physically as well.

I'm speaking a little from own exp. I'm always on medication because of my disability and sometimes I am on painkillers. Being a musician myself writing positive music I really care about all people as well. Summing things up like that, I very much understand how it could've went.

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Reply #555 posted 10/06/10 10:30am

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NMuzakNSoul said:

WaterInYourBath said:

Precisely. Honestly, I've always figured he had to take SOME TYPE of pain relieving medication because of the hard way he danced, but not just for his legs, but for his head, neck, chest, waist, darn-near his entire body. I've never been able to look at how he whipped his head back without flinching and gripping my seat, along with some of his other moves. It LOOKS beautiful and exciting, but it just had to have felt terrible after awhile. You don't dance sharply/violently like him and not feel occasional, or most likely chronic pain, especially after doing it for over 20 years.

That's why all these wack people who have been calling Michael a drug addict aren't even aware: If any of them had ever attempted to dance like him ONCE in their lives, they would have ended up in an emergency room sedated and loaded with NSAIDs.

Thanks for saying that. On top of that the lupus, vitiligo, the Pepsi incident, hurting his back...chronic insomnia...And I also believe the spiritual pain from genuinely caring about the planet manifested itself physically as well.

I'm speaking a little from own exp. I'm always on medication because of my disability and sometimes I am on painkillers. Being a musician myself writing positive music I really care about all people as well. Summing things up like that, I very much understand how it could've went.

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Reply #556 posted 10/06/10 12:12pm

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Tom Mesereau defends big names and no-names

October 05, 2010|By Ann O'Neill, CNN


Tom Mesereau walks into court with his most famous client, Michael Jackson, the late King of Pop.When a case spirals out of control, Tom Mesereau gets the call. He won an acquittal for Michael Jackson in a child molestation case that was followed by millions.

For Robert Blake, accused of murdering wife Bonny Lee Bakley, Mesereau set the groundwork for acquittal with a preliminary hearing that was more like a mini-trial. He also got Blake out on bail, almost unheard of in a high-profile capital murder case.

But what kindles the fire in Mesereau's belly are the capital cases of little-known defendants from the Deep South: the homeless black man who faced the death penalty for allegedly killing a white woman in Alabama; the woman accused of beating her toddler to death with a plastic bottle filled with M&Ms. He won acquittal for the first, and the other client was convicted of manslaughter but spared the death penalty

"He is very dedicated to social justice and volunteers an incredible amount of his time to clients who would not otherwise have a chance in our system," said Loyola Law School professor Laurie Levenson.

A chance meeting with Michael Jackson's brother, Randy, later led to Mesereau's representation of the most famous pop star in the world.

"He did a great job in the Jackson case and he didn't have the world's easiest client," Levenson said. "His cross-examination in the Jackson case was masterful."

Levenson added that Mesereau is "impressive in and out of the courtroom."


His presence in the courtroom is commanding. He is tall, with broad shoulders, chiseled features and an arresting mop of snow-white hair. Legal peers consider his laser-like cross-examination skills to be the best in the business.

But Mesereau seems unaffected by the limelight; if anything, he avoids it.

"I'll never instigate getting the media involved in a case," he said. "There are some lawyers out there who will try to promote their clients' problems to try to draw attention to themselves. I am not one of them. I see lawyers acting like clowns just because there's a camera around."

During the Jackson trial, Mesereau lived like a hermit in a rented condo, far from the Santa Barbara hotels where the media stayed. He was in bed by 8 p.m., and up by 3 a.m.

He learned discipline early. He was born into a military family in West Point, New York. His father, a close aide to Gen. Douglas MacArthur, was on the battleship Missouri with him when Japan surrendered, ending World War II. After the Army, his father joined the family business -- Mama Leone's Italian restaurant in New York City's theater district.

But Mesereau didn't follow his father to West Point. He graduated cum laude from Harvard, where he was on the boxing and football teams and protested the Vietnam War. He received his law degree from Hastings School of Law in San Francisco.

After a brief stint in Washington as a speechwriter on Capitol Hill, he joined the Orange County district attorney's office. But he soon learned his true calling was defense work. In one of the first cases he was assigned to prosecute, Mesereau recalled, he wanted to hug the defendant, a 14-year-old accused of shoplifting.

Mesereau's first celebrity client, or at least the first one who received publicity, was heavyweight boxing champ Mike Tyson, who was investigated for sexual assault in San Bernardino County. Mesereau persuaded prosecutors not to file charges.

The Blake case catapulted Mesereau to fame, although he didn't last until the trial. Blake was known as a difficult client, and Mesereau was the second high-profile lawyer to leave the case before trial.

Soon afterward, Jackson's family begged him to take the criminal child molestation case, replacing attorneys Mark Geragos and Ben Brafman. The Jackson family told him he came highly recommended by Johnnie L. Cochran Jr., who won acquittal for O.J. Simpson.

Mesereau still cringes when he talks about the circus atmosphere surrounding the Jackson case. "Mountains were made out of molehills," he said. "The case was characterized by crisis, shock and confusion."

In "Defending Michael," an article Mesereau wrote for the Los Angeles Daily Journal, a legal newspaper, he recalled the morning Jackson hurt his back, went to the hospital and was late for court. When the judge threatened to revoke bail, Mesereau ordered his client to come to court, immediately.

"His pajama bottoms became a media feast," Mesereau recalled. "But they had no bearing on the trial or verdict. The jury foreman later informed me that no juror even noticed Michael's pants, or lack thereof."

Mesereau defied conventional wisdom in a case involving children, aggressively grilling the young accuser, who was a cancer survivor. And he brought the jury into Michael Jackson's world.

"He was a very kind-hearted, gentle, sensitive, intuitive artist who truly believed he could heal the world in some positive way," Mesereau told CNN. But, he added, "He attracted one profiteer after another. There was loneliness, isolation, distrust. The cruelest thing of all was taking children and turning children against him."

Jackson was acquitted of all charges -- a verdict that surprised many. But Mesereau saw it coming. "I thought we were winning all along," he said, even though media reports indicated otherwise.

During the trial, Mesereau fended off encroachments from other lawyers who, he said, "were constantly trying to get to Michael." Reporters called up old girlfriends, digging for dirt. Journalists tried to cozy up to the lawyer, promising favors for inside tips.


He hasn't tried a celebrity case since, although in Los Angeles, his defense of real estate agent to the stars Joe Babajian received plenty of attention. Babajian, who was accused of mortgage fraud in federal court, was acquitted of 13 counts, and the jury hung on the remaining 8 charges.

Mesereau knows the Jackson case is part of his legacy.

"No matter what I do in the future, I'll be judged by that case for the rest of my career."


Quote: "Big cases either tend to take you sky high or drop you into the pits of hell."

Clients: Michael Jackson, Robert Blake, Mike Tyson

Personal: He's traveling to Alabama this month to defend an African-American man facing the death penalty for allegedly executing a man over a drug debt. None of his clients has received the death penalty.

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-05/justice/celebrity.lawyer.mesereau_1_jackson-case-child-molestation-case-death-penalty?_s=PM:CRIME

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Music And Me is possibly my favorite solo album from the Motown years. It had a more mature and softer feel than Got To Be There and Ben, although much of the material was recorded during and shortly after the Ben recording sessions (as you can tell because Michael's voice was still deepened yet)

The highlights of the album are With A Child's Heart, Happy, Too Young, Euphoria, and my 2 favorites, Up Again and the title track

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Calif. court hears Jackson dad's estate appeal

LOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson's father was "grievously wronged" by a probate court that decided last year not to let him try to replace the administrators of his son's estate, an attorney argued Wednesday.

The arguments by attorney Brian Oxman, who represents Joe Jackson, were heard by a three-judge panel of the California Second District Court of Appeal after a probate judge ruled last November that Joe Jackson did not have standing to intervene in the matter.

The appeals panel did not issue a ruling but did question the legal steps Joe Jackson had taken after being left out of his son's will and whether the moves warranted revisiting the challenge to the administrators.

Associate Justice Laurie D. Zelon asked why Joe Jackson had withdrawn a petition to receive a monthly stipend from the estate before the probate court had a chance to rule on the request.

Oxman said the petition had seemed duplicative after Joe Jackson filed a wrongful death lawsuit in June against a doctor who has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the death of the pop star.

Attorney Howard Weitzman, who represents the estate, countered that pursuing the stipend petition would allow Joe Jackson to be questioned under oath about various other matters.

Zelon also noted that Oxman hadn't told the probate court that his client was considering the wrongful death lawsuit.

"I must beg this court's forgiveness. I must beg the probate court's forgiveness. The magic words 'wrongful death' did not pass my lips," Oxman said.

Associate Justice Fred Woods questioned why Joe Jackson hadn't filed a creditor's claim with the estate, since he has claimed his son supported him financially throughout his life.

Oxman said there was never a contract between Michael Jackson and his father for assistance.

Attorneys for Jackson's estate reminded the appeals panel that the singer had omitted his father from his will and he was not considered a beneficiary of the estate.

"He is not an heir," estate attorney Howard Weitzman told the panel in brief remarks.

Attorneys for the singer's mother, Katherine Jackson, and his three children also argued against Joe Jackson's petition.

Michael Jackson's will appointed attorney John Branca and music executive and family friend John McClain to oversee the pop singer's estate, which has earned tens of millions of dollars since Jackson's death in June 2009 at age 50.

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Reply #559 posted 10/06/10 7:15pm

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SherryJackson said:

I was watching Liza Minelli on LKL last night. She was so sweet when she talked about Michael. Good lady she is. She mentioned that Michael took some medication for pain in his legs, knees and feet. I wonder what that could be from really? The toe-stand dance move? The lupus? Or just years of strenuous dancing? I noticed he didn't do it once on TII.

Poor Mikey in pain...sad

In addition to the many pain-related illnesses he had, I think I also heard somewhere that he often suffered "dancer's feet" - not sure what that is, but it explains why we would see him in crutches every now and then. I remember when he accepted his award at the Hall of Fame, he had some cast on his foot and was walking with a cane. Another time, somewhere in late-2000, early-2001, he would go around in crutches. Maybe Liza was referring to that period...?

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Reply #560 posted 10/06/10 10:13pm

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bboy87 said:

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Music And Me is possibly my favorite solo album from the Motown years. It had a more mature and softer feel than Got To Be There and Ben, although much of the material was recorded during and shortly after the Ben recording sessions (as you can tell because Michael's voice was still deepened yet)

The highlights of the album are With A Child's Heart, Happy, Too Young, Euphoria, and my 2 favorites, Up Again and the title track

Speaking of the title track, was there ever an alternate version of the song? I could have sworn some years back (around 2004) i had a version of the song that was recorded differently .. it sounded like an alternate take ..

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Reply #561 posted 10/06/10 10:29pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

[img:$uid]http://www.michaeljacksonforever.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/michael_jackson_music_and_me.jpg[/img:$uid]

Music And Me is possibly my favorite solo album from the Motown years. It had a more mature and softer feel than Got To Be There and Ben, although much of the material was recorded during and shortly after the Ben recording sessions (as you can tell because Michael's voice was still deepened yet)

The highlights of the album are With A Child's Heart, Happy, Too Young, Euphoria, and my 2 favorites, Up Again and the title track

Speaking of the title track, was there ever an alternate version of the song? I could have sworn some years back (around 2004) i had a version of the song that was recorded differently .. it sounded like an alternate take ..

I think there's only one version but knowing Motown, there could be

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Reply #562 posted 10/06/10 10:31pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

[img:$uid]http://www.michaeljacksonforever.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/michael_jackson_music_and_me.jpg[/img:$uid]

Music And Me is possibly my favorite solo album from the Motown years. It had a more mature and softer feel than Got To Be There and Ben, although much of the material was recorded during and shortly after the Ben recording sessions (as you can tell because Michael's voice was still deepened yet)

The highlights of the album are With A Child's Heart, Happy, Too Young, Euphoria, and my 2 favorites, Up Again and the title track

Speaking of the title track, was there ever an alternate version of the song? I could have sworn some years back (around 2004) i had a version of the song that was recorded differently .. it sounded like an alternate take ..

I wouldn't be shocked. The way they were working ole boy... neutral

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WaterInYourBath said:

Precisely. Honestly, I've always figured he had to take SOME TYPE of pain relieving medication because of the hard way he danced, but not just for his legs, but for his head, neck, chest, waist, darn-near his entire body. I've never been able to look at how he whipped his head back without flinching and gripping my seat, along with some of his other moves. It LOOKS beautiful and exciting, but it just had to have felt terrible after awhile. You don't dance sharply/violently like him and not feel occasional, or most likely chronic pain, especially after doing it for over 20 years.

That's why all these wack people who have been calling Michael a drug addict aren't even aware: If any of them had ever attempted to dance like him ONCE in their lives, they would have ended up in an emergency room sedated and loaded with NSAIDs.

Thanks for saying that. On top of that the lupus, vitiligo, the Pepsi incident, hurting his back...chronic insomnia...And I also believe the spiritual pain from genuinely caring about the planet manifested itself physically as well.

I'm speaking a little from own exp. I'm always on medication because of my disability and sometimes I am on painkillers. Being a musician myself writing positive music I really care about all people as well. Summing things up like that, I very much understand how it could've went.

hug Logically, everyone should recognize that taking prescribed painkillers for the purpose of killing serious pain caused by diagnosed injuries, etc, does not make one a drug addict. It was hypocritical for the media to start labeling Michael as such when, for example, famous injured athletes take the same pills without people questioning them at all. What's worse is that most folks don't even realize that Mike was basically a professional athlete himself. And while most take pain relievers until their pain heals/stops, apparently, his pain became constant. Until now with Liza, no one on TV has taken the time to really understand this.

And you're right about all of those other physical traumas he suffered with. neutral While he was sadly susceptible to those problems, you gotta admit he was like a real soldier though: Through all of that pain/exhaustion, he still managed to perform 100% during every concert. That's astounding to me! I don't believe anybody else could do that, I really don't. He literally pushed his body past the limit as a dancer, with no slack.....Thinking about all of this actually reminds me of a quote he said during that Bashir interview: "People don't wanna give me credit for anything." That is SO true sometimes. disbelief

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Reply #565 posted 10/07/10 8:35am

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And come hell or high water had Michael survived June 25th, he would've continued to put 110% into whatever he was doing (because rehearsals don't really show you everything).

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Cool pic. thumbs up!

Well the LMP & Oprah interview didnt air yesterday. I bet Oprah's saving it for November sweeps.

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Vanilli said:

Cool pic. thumbs up!

Well the LMP & Oprah interview didnt air yesterday. I bet Oprah's saving it for November sweeps.

If this is Oprah´s last season, she leave it for last. You know the best for last. And if it was postponed becuase of LMP releasing an album to promote it, than she should be more than ashamed of herself for using their marrige to promote it when she accused him of maybe "using her to clean up his image."

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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