I think Michael himself was going to show his kids to the world on stage at one of his performances. He said this as early as 2005 that he wanted to introduce them. I think the spider-man masks were when they were young. I honestly don't blame him for doing that.. can you imagine the world scrutinizing those kids when they were just under the age of 10?! Think about how much they're scrutinzed now. Imagine what would be written about them post-2005 and how their pics woud be distributed. I think in the last few years or so, they went around in baseball caps. Now that the kids are close to being young teenagers, I think they were raised strong enough to handle it (as Michael himself had planned) "If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with" - Michael Jackson | |
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That's true too. | |
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I understand Michael's reason for protecting the kids the way he did, but I also understand why Ms. Katherine is allowing them to go out in public. It's not good for them to be isolated from the world. They have to learn to deal with the cards they have been dealt, which is being in the public eye because of who their father was.
What I'm saying is don't pass judgment on the Jackson family or Michael for their decision on how to raise the kids. | |
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Can't remember the building LOL. Such a bizarre movie thats chock full of ego that only Mike could get away with (well he didn't with critics LOL). Not surprising no studio would touch the film LOL. Mike paid for it himself.
I love the faux Spielberg "Smooth criminal" segment (the whole 30 minutes or so, not just the video). As a kid growing up with that movie, it was something else. I remember BBC use to show it quite alot aswell, so it must of been popular. It's certainly a movie I remember alot of people around my age seeing (Iam 24 now). Shame they cocked up the blu ray. Iam not getting it until they at least leave it uncut. It beggers belief why the estate did this:-
So pathetic. Like Mike would of even cared. Its one of the best bits of the movie LOL. I love Joe Pesci.
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Michael wouldn't like his kids in the public eye and trust me I was all about not exposing the kids last year with the grammy's etc but eventually it was going to happen. I'm not really bother by it now to be honest. Wish his kids the best.
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WAIT WAIT WAIT. The edited the drugs line out of Joe Pesci's mouth? WTF That is stupid. That new edit sucks. I was just thinking of buying the blu ray of Moonwalker today. So much for that dumb idea. I'll stick with my bootleg DVD. Ugh. Why take out that line? SERIOUSLY. Not cool! MJ Fan 1992-Forever
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oh god all i want for christmas is the Bad Tour on dvd or blu ray! "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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i wonder the same thing too lol "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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Is this the US version or something because i'm pretty sure I saw it on the UK blu ray.....going to have to check now [Edited 10/5/10 23:46pm] | |
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Yeah,and not Yokohama either!
I want either Kansas City or Wembley! YOU DON'T NEED A BUS PASS FOR ME TO BUS YOUR ASS,NIGGA ! | |
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I was watching Liza Minelli on LKL last night. She was so sweet when she talked about Michael. Good lady she is. She mentioned that Michael took some medication for pain in his legs, knees and feet. I wonder what that could be from really? The toe-stand dance move? The lupus? Or just years of strenuous dancing? I noticed he didn't do it once on TII.
Poor Mikey in pain... | |
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Precisely. Honestly, I've always figured he had to take SOME TYPE of pain relieving medication because of the hard way he danced, but not just for his legs, but for his head, neck, chest, waist, darn-near his entire body. I've never been able to look at how he whipped his head back without flinching and gripping my seat, along with some of his other moves. It LOOKS beautiful and exciting, but it just had to have felt terrible after awhile. You don't dance sharply/violently like him and not feel occasional, or most likely chronic pain, especially after doing it for over 20 years.
That's why all these wack people who have been calling Michael a drug addict aren't even aware: If any of them had ever attempted to dance like him ONCE in their lives, they would have ended up in an emergency room sedated and loaded with NSAIDs. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Thanks for saying that. On top of that the lupus, vitiligo, the Pepsi incident, hurting his back...chronic insomnia...And I also believe the spiritual pain from genuinely caring about the planet manifested itself physically as well.
I'm speaking a little from own exp. I'm always on medication because of my disability and sometimes I am on painkillers. Being a musician myself writing positive music I really care about all people as well. Summing things up like that, I very much understand how it could've went. | |
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Tom Mesereau defends big names and no-names
http://articles.cnn.com/2010-10-05/justice/celebrity.lawyer.mesereau_1_jackson-case-child-molestation-case-death-penalty?_s=PM:CRIME "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Music And Me is possibly my favorite solo album from the Motown years. It had a more mature and softer feel than Got To Be There and Ben, although much of the material was recorded during and shortly after the Ben recording sessions (as you can tell because Michael's voice was still deepened yet)
The highlights of the album are With A Child's Heart, Happy, Too Young, Euphoria, and my 2 favorites, Up Again and the title track "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Calif. court hears Jackson dad's estate appealLOS ANGELES – Michael Jackson's father was "grievously wronged" by a probate court that decided last year not to let him try to replace the administrators of his son's estate, an attorney argued Wednesday.
The arguments by attorney Brian Oxman, who represents Joe Jackson, were heard by a three-judge panel of the California Second District Court of Appeal after a probate judge ruled last November that Joe Jackson did not have standing to intervene in the matter. The appeals panel did not issue a ruling but did question the legal steps Joe Jackson had taken after being left out of his son's will and whether the moves warranted revisiting the challenge to the administrators.
Associate Justice Laurie D. Zelon asked why Joe Jackson had withdrawn a petition to receive a monthly stipend from the estate before the probate court had a chance to rule on the request. Oxman said the petition had seemed duplicative after Joe Jackson filed a wrongful death lawsuit in June against a doctor who has pleaded not guilty to involuntary manslaughter in the death of the pop star.
Attorney Howard Weitzman, who represents the estate, countered that pursuing the stipend petition would allow Joe Jackson to be questioned under oath about various other matters. Zelon also noted that Oxman hadn't told the probate court that his client was considering the wrongful death lawsuit.
"I must beg this court's forgiveness. I must beg the probate court's forgiveness. The magic words 'wrongful death' did not pass my lips," Oxman said.
Associate Justice Fred Woods questioned why Joe Jackson hadn't filed a creditor's claim with the estate, since he has claimed his son supported him financially throughout his life.
Oxman said there was never a contract between Michael Jackson and his father for assistance. Attorneys for Jackson's estate reminded the appeals panel that the singer had omitted his father from his will and he was not considered a beneficiary of the estate.
"He is not an heir," estate attorney Howard Weitzman told the panel in brief remarks. Attorneys for the singer's mother, Katherine Jackson, and his three children also argued against Joe Jackson's petition.
Michael Jackson's will appointed attorney John Branca and music executive and family friend John McClain to oversee the pop singer's estate, which has earned tens of millions of dollars since Jackson's death in June 2009 at age 50.
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In addition to the many pain-related illnesses he had, I think I also heard somewhere that he often suffered "dancer's feet" - not sure what that is, but it explains why we would see him in crutches every now and then. I remember when he accepted his award at the Hall of Fame, he had some cast on his foot and was walking with a cane. Another time, somewhere in late-2000, early-2001, he would go around in crutches. Maybe Liza was referring to that period...? "If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with" - Michael Jackson | |
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Speaking of the title track, was there ever an alternate version of the song? I could have sworn some years back (around 2004) i had a version of the song that was recorded differently .. it sounded like an alternate take .. | |
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I think there's only one version but knowing Motown, there could be "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I wouldn't be shocked. The way they were working ole boy... | |
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Logically, everyone should recognize that taking prescribed painkillers for the purpose of killing serious pain caused by diagnosed injuries, etc, does not make one a drug addict. It was hypocritical for the media to start labeling Michael as such when, for example, famous injured athletes take the same pills without people questioning them at all. What's worse is that most folks don't even realize that Mike was basically a professional athlete himself. And while most take pain relievers until their pain heals/stops, apparently, his pain became constant. Until now with Liza, no one on TV has taken the time to really understand this.
And you're right about all of those other physical traumas he suffered with. While he was sadly susceptible to those problems, you gotta admit he was like a real soldier though: Through all of that pain/exhaustion, he still managed to perform 100% during every concert. That's astounding to me! I don't believe anybody else could do that, I really don't. He literally pushed his body past the limit as a dancer, with no slack.....Thinking about all of this actually reminds me of a quote he said during that Bashir interview: "People don't wanna give me credit for anything." That is SO true sometimes. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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And come hell or high water had Michael survived June 25th, he would've continued to put 110% into whatever he was doing (because rehearsals don't really show you everything). | |
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Cool pic.
Well the LMP & Oprah interview didnt air yesterday. I bet Oprah's saving it for November sweeps. MJ L.O.V.E: https://www.facebook.com/...689&type=2 / YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/us...nderSilent | |
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If this is Oprah´s last season, she leave it for last. You know the best for last. And if it was postponed becuase of LMP releasing an album to promote it, than she should be more than ashamed of herself for using their marrige to promote it when she accused him of maybe "using her to clean up his image." "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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