dag said:

EmeraldSkies said:

That was great!

Cute.

Thanks

I guess these are from karen's twitter.

Wingheart: Yes, I do know LMP did an interview with Oprah that will air this week. Oprah went to her. Hopefully, it will clarify many of your questions

wingheart: I pray they edit it correctly. LMP is in a very different place now. Let us watch and see.

Wingheart: LMP loved MJ very much, but being in a relationship together was difficult, ultimately, impossible

Wingheart: Things once misunderstood, become much clearer in time, and we become wiser. She holds so much emotion inside and wants 2 b understood

Winghaert: She is being brave and honest. I hope everyone will keep an open heart and try to understand. Those who can not, only cheat themselves

wingheart @KarlaJorge I have spoken at length with LMP after she did the recent interview and she WAS NOT aware of all Oprah has done

wingheart @mjnorge Yes, and I saw them interact as a loving husband and wife often. It was very cute and warmed my heart.

Does anyone know the name of the song playing under the intro of The Way You Make Me Feel. For years I have wanted this track. At one stage I was informed it was called Love Games.

Anyone got any info on it?

What the in the world lisa has to talk about now, too late girl.

I say give Lisa a chance. We know Michael kept in contact with her post breakup so obviously he was cool with her. And lets face it, breaking up with someone you love you work through a lot of emotions, anger being front and centre. Time can help heal things and put the focus back on the positives, and when you lose that person then it amplifies how you felt and makes you reflect more honestly and with a bit more understanding.

Be interesting to see.

Swa said:

I say give Lisa a chance. We know Michael kept in contact with her post breakup so obviously he was cool with her. And lets face it, breaking up with someone you love you work through a lot of emotions, anger being front and centre. Time can help heal things and put the focus back on the positives, and when you lose that person then it amplifies how you felt and makes you reflect more honestly and with a bit more understanding.

Be interesting to see.

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Swa said:

I say give Lisa a chance. We know Michael kept in contact with her post breakup so obviously he was cool with her. And lets face it, breaking up with someone you love you work through a lot of emotions, anger being front and centre. Time can help heal things and put the focus back on the positives, and when you lose that person then it amplifies how you felt and makes you reflect more honestly and with a bit more understanding.

Be interesting to see.

I wanted to strike the post but I have respect for so I won't do it........

That talentless hefier deserves no chance.........

When you live in a world where one day you can have everything you ever needed and loved, only to have it taken away from you the next day,one needs to consider how they go about living their days. Whatever you do, you need to always consider that this day could, possibly, be your last. This could be the last post you read. That thing you just ate, could be your last meal ever. The last time you called your mother, may be the last time you ever have any contact with her. That is how precious and short life is. This is why when you do things, you have to always to be aware of the consequences they might come about.

Example, if you are fighting with a loved one, and you are no longer talking, you have to think about the reality of there might be a chance that those angry words might be the last thing you will ever say to them. Can you, personally, handle that? Can you live to bear that weight? Because, if you can't, it will continue to gnaw at you until your death one day. If you can, then...so be it. Continue to live with that conviction until the day you die.

This is why when I see LMP's reaction, I have no sympathy for her nor do I care about anything she has to say. She didn't have to do what she did in the past, but she did it anyways. It is one thing if she continued to stick by her words even after his death, but she didn't. Even if they made up, I don't really remember her ever going on the record to clear up any misunderstandings, ever. This is not to say that you can't forgive someone for their mistakes, but there are somethings that won't change, because that's the way the person is. They can not and will not change. It's like as that old saying goes, 'You can't teach an old dog new tricks."

I just hope that, in the future, she can be a little more mature in her old ass age and try to take her actions into consideration a bit more and how they might affect her in the future. Problem is, I don't think she does, which is why she's going on this show to cry and whine about it.

TL ; DR? Live your life without regrets; as best as you, possibly, can.

Im sort of, scratch that, im sick of people excusing her shit because of heartbreak. Bullshi..lisa bashed the man for 15 years straight up until 08' he was the worst mistake of her life. As soon as he dies there she goes with her tears and sunflowers ready to play the widow role. She knew what she was doing. In 05' when this man was fighting for his life her near forty years old ass was jumping from radioshow to talkshow plugging her lame album via. bashing MJ. She sat on oprah's couch and talked and laughed about him like he was less than human. She didnt have to talk about him, she could have taken the high road and said no comment or make an agreement beforehand that he wouldnt be discussed during her interviews but she didnt do this, instead she joined in on the bashing, painted him as manipultive and cold( 'he loved me as much as he could love anyone') at a time where some positivity/support from her could have done alot of good in terms of reminding the public that he was human.People need to stop making excuses for her, she was a grown ass woman who knew the consequences of her actions and that how anything she said would make an impression on the public. Heartbreak..please..she knew what the hell she was doing. I get that in break ups people get upset and angry and sometimes lash out at their exes BUT she bashed him publicly for 15 YEARS. Who does that? I mean at what point do you say enough is enough and move on. Or sit down and talk to him.Nope...Instead she held whatever she had against him and attacked whatever chance she got for 15 years. Lisa lacked maturity and she did all she did out of spite and it was intended to be malicious. IMo she was more concerned with distancing herself, unattaching herself from her "freak" ex-husband in the public eye more than anything.Michael had class, unlike her, he nver said a bad thin about her even after all the crap she spouted. Now that he's dead and gone she isnt indifferent anymore....nope now the guilt of what she did is eating away at her. Thats her problem, I dont feel the least bit sorry for her. I dont care what people think, but i will always have more respect for debbie than i ever will for lisa.

Im sort of, scratch that, im sick of people excusing her shit because of heartbreak. Bullshi..lisa bashed the man for 15 years straight up until 08' he was the worst mistake of her life. As soon as he dies there she goes with her tears and sunflowers ready to play the widow role. She knew what she was doing. In 05' when this man was fighting for his life her near forty years old ass was jumping from radioshow to talkshow plugging her lame album via. bashing MJ. She sat on oprah's couch and talked and laughed about him like he was less than human. She didnt have to talk about him, she could have taken the high road and said no comment or make an agreement beforehand that he wouldnt be discussed during her interviews but she didnt do this, instead she joined in on the bashing, painted him as manipultive and cold( 'he loved me as much as he could love anyone') at a time where some positivity/support from her could have done alot of good in terms of reminding the public that he was human.People need to stop making excuses for her, she was a grown ass woman who knew the consequences of her actions and that how anything she said would make an impression on the public. Heartbreak..please..she knew what the hell she was doing. I get that in break ups people get upset and angry and sometimes lash out at their exes BUT she bashed him publicly for 15 YEARS. Who does that? I mean at what point do you say enough is enough and move on. Or sit down and talk to him.Nope...Instead she held whatever she had against him and attacked whatever chance she got for 15 years. Lisa lacked maturity and she did all she did out of spite and it was intended to be malicious. IMo she was more concerned with distancing herself, unattaching herself from her "freak" ex-husband in the public eye more than anything.Michael had class, unlike her, he nver said a bad thin about her even after all the crap she spouted. Now that he's dead and gone she isnt indifferent anymore....nope now the guilt of what she did is eating away at her. Thats her problem, I dont feel the least bit sorry for her. I dont care what people think, but i will always have more respect for debbie than i ever will for lisa.

Admitedly I haven't seen every interview she has given so I cannot say what or what she hasn't said. All I think you can judge a person on is based on what they say now.

And look if someone who really knew Michael is saying positive things about him now (sure maybe too late for some but still...) then I think ultimately that is a positive thing.

Still each to their own. I just hope what she says is a true reflection of how she feels in total - afterall no one is perfect in a relationship.

SamiDion said:

Im sort of, scratch that, im sick of people excusing her shit because of heartbreak. Bullshi..lisa bashed the man for 15 years straight up until 08' he was the worst mistake of her life. As soon as he dies there she goes with her tears and sunflowers ready to play the widow role. She knew what she was doing. In 05' when this man was fighting for his life her near forty years old ass was jumping from radioshow to talkshow plugging her lame album via. bashing MJ. She sat on oprah's couch and talked and laughed about him like he was less than human. She didnt have to talk about him, she could have taken the high road and said no comment or make an agreement beforehand that he wouldnt be discussed during her interviews but she didnt do this, instead she joined in on the bashing, painted him as manipultive and cold( 'he loved me as much as he could love anyone') at a time where some positivity/support from her could have done alot of good in terms of reminding the public that he was human.People need to stop making excuses for her, she was a grown ass woman who knew the consequences of her actions and that how anything she said would make an impression on the public. Heartbreak..please..she knew what the hell she was doing. I get that in break ups people get upset and angry and sometimes lash out at their exes BUT she bashed him publicly for 15 YEARS. Who does that? I mean at what point do you say enough is enough and move on. Or sit down and talk to him.Nope...Instead she held whatever she had against him and attacked whatever chance she got for 15 years. Lisa lacked maturity and she did all she did out of spite and it was intended to be malicious. IMo she was more concerned with distancing herself, unattaching herself from her "freak" ex-husband in the public eye more than anything.Michael had class, unlike her, he nver said a bad thin about her even after all the crap she spouted. Now that he's dead and gone she isnt indifferent anymore....nope now the guilt of what she did is eating away at her. Thats her problem, I dont feel the least bit sorry for her. I dont care what people think, but i will always have more respect for debbie than i ever will for lisa.

Great post.......

Don't forget her lame interview with the bitch Daine swayer

whatever she says , still a two-faced bitch

seeingvoices12 said:

SamiDion said:

Im sort of, scratch that, im sick of people excusing her shit because of heartbreak. Bullshi..lisa bashed the man for 15 years straight up until 08' he was the worst mistake of her life. As soon as he dies there she goes with her tears and sunflowers ready to play the widow role. She knew what she was doing. In 05' when this man was fighting for his life her near forty years old ass was jumping from radioshow to talkshow plugging her lame album via. bashing MJ. She sat on oprah's couch and talked and laughed about him like he was less than human. She didnt have to talk about him, she could have taken the high road and said no comment or make an agreement beforehand that he wouldnt be discussed during her interviews but she didnt do this, instead she joined in on the bashing, painted him as manipultive and cold( 'he loved me as much as he could love anyone') at a time where some positivity/support from her could have done alot of good in terms of reminding the public that he was human.People need to stop making excuses for her, she was a grown ass woman who knew the consequences of her actions and that how anything she said would make an impression on the public. Heartbreak..please..she knew what the hell she was doing. I get that in break ups people get upset and angry and sometimes lash out at their exes BUT she bashed him publicly for 15 YEARS. Who does that? I mean at what point do you say enough is enough and move on. Or sit down and talk to him.Nope...Instead she held whatever she had against him and attacked whatever chance she got for 15 years. Lisa lacked maturity and she did all she did out of spite and it was intended to be malicious. IMo she was more concerned with distancing herself, unattaching herself from her "freak" ex-husband in the public eye more than anything.Michael had class, unlike her, he nver said a bad thin about her even after all the crap she spouted. Now that he's dead and gone she isnt indifferent anymore....nope now the guilt of what she did is eating away at her. Thats her problem, I dont feel the least bit sorry for her. I dont care what people think, but i will always have more respect for debbie than i ever will for lisa.

Great post.......

Don't forget her lame interview with the bitch Daine swayer

whatever she says , still a two-faced bitch

Mental note: never cross seeingvoices

Swa said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Great post.......

Don't forget her lame interview with the bitch Daine swayer

whatever she says , still a two-faced bitch

Mental note: never cross seeingvoices

I'm just being honest here , the way she started to backpedal after MJ passed away made my skin crawl , this is not an honest person and she continued with her Criticism for years and years, the heffa deserves no chance ...

Lisa

Swa said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Great post.......

Don't forget her lame interview with the bitch Daine swayer

whatever she says , still a two-faced bitch

Mental note: never cross seeingvoices

*Does the same*

EmeraldSkies said:

ali23 said:

HOLD IT GODDAMMIT!!!!!

Did you just say 25mins.?

I thought the 2 extra minutes that are rarely seen on tv were amazing!

Hold up!! I missed THAT! Are youi telling me that there is a longer version of this video that this one??

Unbelieveable,right!

I feel like we'll never see it though!

*Tries to be more positive*

SamiDion said:

Im sort of, scratch that, im sick of people excusing her shit because of heartbreak. Bullshi..lisa bashed the man for 15 years straight up until 08' he was the worst mistake of her life. As soon as he dies there she goes with her tears and sunflowers ready to play the widow role. She knew what she was doing. In 05' when this man was fighting for his life her near forty years old ass was jumping from radioshow to talkshow plugging her lame album via. bashing MJ. She sat on oprah's couch and talked and laughed about him like he was less than human. She didnt have to talk about him, she could have taken the high road and said no comment or make an agreement beforehand that he wouldnt be discussed during her interviews but she didnt do this, instead she joined in on the bashing, painted him as manipultive and cold( 'he loved me as much as he could love anyone') at a time where some positivity/support from her could have done alot of good in terms of reminding the public that he was human.People need to stop making excuses for her, she was a grown ass woman who knew the consequences of her actions and that how anything she said would make an impression on the public. Heartbreak..please..she knew what the hell she was doing. I get that in break ups people get upset and angry and sometimes lash out at their exes BUT she bashed him publicly for 15 YEARS. Who does that? I mean at what point do you say enough is enough and move on. Or sit down and talk to him.Nope...Instead she held whatever she had against him and attacked whatever chance she got for 15 years. Lisa lacked maturity and she did all she did out of spite and it was intended to be malicious. IMo she was more concerned with distancing herself, unattaching herself from her "freak" ex-husband in the public eye more than anything.Michael had class, unlike her, he nver said a bad thin about her even after all the crap she spouted. Now that he's dead and gone she isnt indifferent anymore....nope now the guilt of what she did is eating away at her. Thats her problem, I dont feel the least bit sorry for her. I dont care what people think, but i will always have more respect for debbie than i ever will for lisa.

Exactly and I beleive that this is what´s been driving her to say things she did. If you wanna distance yourself from someone, you gotta play the "cool" by agreeing with the majority and she did that. The only line she never crossed was calling him a pedophile even though, she did say that "only the two people in the room will know" as if trying to distance herself from that. I´ve seen most of her interviews cause I wanted to know what she was saying and it did break my heart. I believe that she may have been used from time to time, misquoted, but she should have clarified everything or stop doing interviews, if people were twisting her comments. I am dissapointed that she chose Oprah to speak cause that doesn´t give me much credibility when I see her interviews, she sort of "plays it safe" meaning when it´s in to bash him, she´ll do that and when it´s in to love him, she´s gonna do that. It´s fake and just designed to get ratings and not the truth out. Of course, let´s wait and see what´s gonna come out, but I am sceptical and fearful. It would be cool if Lisa showed some private, unseen of the two of them.

SamiDion said:

Im sort of, scratch that, im sick of people excusing her shit because of heartbreak. Bullshi..lisa bashed the man for 15 years straight up until 08' he was the worst mistake of her life. As soon as he dies there she goes with her tears and sunflowers ready to play the widow role. She knew what she was doing. In 05' when this man was fighting for his life her near forty years old ass was jumping from radioshow to talkshow plugging her lame album via. bashing MJ. She sat on oprah's couch and talked and laughed about him like he was less than human. She didnt have to talk about him, she could have taken the high road and said no comment or make an agreement beforehand that he wouldnt be discussed during her interviews but she didnt do this, instead she joined in on the bashing, painted him as manipultive and cold( 'he loved me as much as he could love anyone') at a time where some positivity/support from her could have done alot of good in terms of reminding the public that he was human.People need to stop making excuses for her, she was a grown ass woman who knew the consequences of her actions and that how anything she said would make an impression on the public. Heartbreak..please..she knew what the hell she was doing. I get that in break ups people get upset and angry and sometimes lash out at their exes BUT she bashed him publicly for 15 YEARS. Who does that? I mean at what point do you say enough is enough and move on. Or sit down and talk to him.Nope...Instead she held whatever she had against him and attacked whatever chance she got for 15 years. Lisa lacked maturity and she did all she did out of spite and it was intended to be malicious. IMo she was more concerned with distancing herself, unattaching herself from her "freak" ex-husband in the public eye more than anything.Michael had class, unlike her, he nver said a bad thin about her even after all the crap she spouted. Now that he's dead and gone she isnt indifferent anymore....nope now the guilt of what she did is eating away at her. Thats her problem, I dont feel the least bit sorry for her. I dont care what people think, but i will always have more respect for debbie than i ever will for lisa.

Well said. That bitch is a straight up brat. She's only crying about it now, because she feels guilty as all hell. Now she's going to go BACK on Oprah after she 'claims' that she wasn't aware of how she was portrayed on the show and she wants to clear up any 'misunderstandings.' There were none. She got dumped, she got mad. Then he died, now she's got sad.

Whatever. I'm glad they divorced. Had Michael converted to scientology I would have been crushed.

Ok so LMP really did do an interview with O huh? And when did Karen Faye and LMP become buddies? I thought Karen didnt like Lisa. Hasnt she made catty comments about her before? I thought she did once but maybe I imagined it

Jermaine Commands Michael Jackson Army

10/4/2010 5:20 AM PDT by TMZ Staff

Jermaine Jackson squeezed into one of his old Jackson 5 costumes to perform a tribute to Michael in Vegas this weekend -- but the whole thing could ignite some serious family drama.

While cameras rolled, Jermaine performed a series of Michael Jackson's classics to a packed house at the concert hall at the Planet Hollywood Resort.

Here's the rub -- Jermaine is legally allowed to cover the MJ songs in concert, but if he uses the recorded footage to create and then sell a DVD, album or TV special -- he would need to go through the Michael Jackson estate to secure permission.

So far, it's unclear if Jermaine did get the green light -- but if not, the MJ estate could bring legal action against Jermaine to protect it's most valuable asset ... Michael's music.

FYI ... Michael's kids -- Prince, Paris and Blanket -- were all at the show.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/10/04/jermaine-jackson-michael-jackson-las-vegas-concert-video/

dag said:

mookie said:

Lisa Marie's appearing on Oprah October 6th.

Episode Detail: For the First Time Lisa Marie Presley Speaks Out About the Death of Ex-Husband Michael Jackson

Lisa Marie Presley discusses the death of Michael Jackson, reflects on her marriage to the King of Pop, and explores parallels between Jackson and her father, Elvis Presley.

I wonder why she feels the need to discuss this with the world since she kept saying she didn´t like to talk about him. She better say some good stuff.

[Edited 10/2/10 0:41am]

I just hope that people can keep an objective mind.. I am sure she is going to say things we might not want to hear.. I don't think that LMP is the type of person to tell lies.

After all Oprah pursued Lisa for this interview.

sag10 said:

dag said:

I wonder why she feels the need to discuss this with the world since she kept saying she didn´t like to talk about him. She better say some good stuff.

[Edited 10/2/10 0:41am]

I just hope that people can keep an objective mind.. I am sure she is going to say things we might not want to hear.. I don't think that LMP is the type of person to tell lies.

After all Oprah pursued Lisa for this interview.

she is not only a liar but also a hypocrite

sag10 said:

dag said:

I wonder why she feels the need to discuss this with the world since she kept saying she didn´t like to talk about him. She better say some good stuff.

[Edited 10/2/10 0:41am]

I just hope that people can keep an objective mind.. I am sure she is going to say things we might not want to hear.. I don't think that LMP is the type of person to tell lies.

After all Oprah pursued Lisa for this interview.

My problem with Lisa is not that she would lie, but that she would only say half-truth and that causes all the misinterpretations.

Oprah might have pursued her, but she kept telling she doesn´t wanna talk about him, so she could easily say just no.

SamiDion said:

I get that in break ups people get upset and angry and sometimes lash out at their exes BUT she bashed him publicly for 15 YEARS. Who does that? I mean at what point do you say enough is enough and move on. Or sit down and talk to him.Nope...Instead she held whatever she had against him and attacked whatever chance she got for 15 years.

What did she say before 2003? And to be fair, she did mostly move on duriung the 2005 promotion of her album. What she did sucked, but plenty of times I saw where she didn't go after MJ when the hosts or interviewers wanted her to (Jimmy Kimmel, Leno, etc.).

mookie said:

SamiDion said:

I get that in break ups people get upset and angry and sometimes lash out at their exes BUT she bashed him publicly for 15 YEARS. Who does that? I mean at what point do you say enough is enough and move on. Or sit down and talk to him.Nope...Instead she held whatever she had against him and attacked whatever chance she got for 15 years.

What did she say before 2003? And to be fair, she did mostly move on duriung the 2005 promotion of her album. What she did sucked, but plenty of times I saw where she didn't go after MJ when the hosts or interviewers wanted her to (Jimmy Kimmel, Leno, etc.).

Well, it´s true that she could have said much worse things. I just don´t think she always stood up for him as for the person she knew him as....I don´t know if that makes sense....but whatever...

dag said:

sag10 said:

I just hope that people can keep an objective mind.. I am sure she is going to say things we might not want to hear.. I don't think that LMP is the type of person to tell lies.

After all Oprah pursued Lisa for this interview.

My problem with Lisa is not that she would lie, but that she would only say half-truth and that causes all the misinterpretations.

Oprah might have pursued her, but she kept telling she doesn´t wanna talk about him, so she could easily say just no.

See that's what I thought too, that she didnt want to talk to the media about it, so I'm a bit surprised at her willingness to do a full hour sit down with Oprah to talk about MJ But then again LMP always seemed to be the wishy-washy type.

Anyways, this video always makes me smile!

He was so happy here!

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Talking about "I don't wanna end up like him"... I forget verbatim what she said but that just made me wanna slap her in her mouth.

Yep this is the last season.

I saw it being previewed somewhere. Patti LaBelle's first recording of "Over the Rainbow" from '65 was playing in the background. Oprah, you ain't Dorothy.

The bitch had the nerve to say this........WoW

I'm glad this is the last season , I hope she disappears and forever

Excuse me while I get out my barf bag

God, I used to think she was nice when she interviewed him back in the nineties. And now THIS???

Somebody's ridin' the fame pony a little too hard eh, Oprah?

God all these people that were around Michael and look at them now... I ain't got real sympathy.

That's all I'm gonna say. I'm not gonna delve into the women. So I'm gonna just move on...

bboy87 said:

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All that talk and y'all miss this picture? Shame.

Great pic.