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SoulAlive

Carlos Santana and Nas "Back In Black"---yay or nay?

from Carlos' new CD 'Guitar Heaven',in stores today.

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Reply #1 posted 09/21/10 12:53am

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It seems that Carlos has lost his soul 10 years ago when Supernatural was such a huge hit, and he still hasn't found again!

He keeps putting out these God Awful duet albums year after year, and every one is worse than the other!

I got no problem with Rap remakes of Rock songs and Vice Versa. I think Run-DMC's version of Walk This Way is a classic and I love Antrax version of Bring the Noise. I think it's cool when it's done well.

This on the other hand, was not!

The music sounded generic as hell. Nas sounded like he was just there for a quick paycheck.

I saw Carlos on Leno with India Arie, and I thought it was bad, too.

I would never tell an artist that they need to retire, but I might make an exception for Carlos Santana if he keeps putting out these lifeless Duets Albums.

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Reply #2 posted 09/21/10 12:55am

SoulAlive

I love the duet with India Arie music

This one with Nas? I'm not too sure about.

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Reply #3 posted 09/21/10 1:02am

SoulAlive

Carlos and India Arie performing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" on Jay Leno music

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Reply #4 posted 09/21/10 1:11am

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From the Nov. Issue of Guitar World (just happened to read this tonight)....

SANTANA: My Brother Nas came out & we did "Back In Black." It really, really worked. It's my favorite track for just just pure, raw nasty testosterone. [laughs]

GW: Which is what AC /DC are all about. You nailed it, you just took a different road in. Were you a fan of AC / DC initially?

SANTANA: I've always been a fan. Who wouldn't be a fan of that? If you strip away the drums and bass and you just have the lead and rhythm guitar, man, that's it! It's just as significant as Led Zeppelin or Hendrix or anybody like that. Because Malcolm Young is incredible on rhythm guitar. He sets it up for his brother Angus. So I'm a fan of AC / DC because of the grooves. It's all about the groove for me, 'cause the groove tales you to a place where time dissappears, gravity dissappears and problems dissappear. And there's just the groove.

I dunno.....sounds to me like he shoulda spent more time on "just the groove" and less on this over-produced pile.

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Reply #5 posted 09/21/10 3:53am

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Carlos Santana's 'Guitar Heaven' review: Album doesn't quite master rejigging masterpieces

Tuesday, September 21st 2010, 4:00 AM

Santana's 'Guitar Heaven' reworks air guitar masterpieces, but doesn't quite create its own.
TIMOTHY SACCENTI
Santana's 'Guitar Heaven' reworks air guitar masterpieces, but doesn't quite create its own.
Santana's 'Guitar Heaven' was suggested by corporate mentor Clive Davis. CLICK PIC for most metal album covers ever.
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Santana's 'Guitar Heaven' was suggested by corporate mentor Clive Davis. CLICK PIC for most metal album covers ever.

Carlos Santana accepted a strange assignment for his latest CD. At the suggestion of his corporate mentor Clive Davis, he chose 12 of the most air-guitar-worthy songs of all time, then superimposed his own style on top of them.

For "Guitar Heaven," Santana surveyed the work of his few peers - from Jimmy Page to Jimi Hendrix to Eric Clapton - and selected for interpretation their most obvious masterpieces, from "Whole Lotta Love" to "Little Wing" to "Sunshine of Your Love."

Consider it peer-to-peer social networking of the highest order.

As commercial as it may seem on one level, significant risks lurked under the surface. If Santana didn't radically rejigger the original songs, he could end up throwing his own towering talents into the shadow of others. On the other hand, if he switched things up too much, it would be like drawing mustaches on masterpieces.

As it turns out, a little of each came into play.

While "Guitar Heaven" can't help but satisfy an ax-nerd's fantasy, there's also something restrictive about it. The new arrangements may feature all kinds of small switch-ups, but the essential songs remain the same. "Whole Lotta Love" honors Page's original breakdowns to the note, while "Sunshine of Your Love" treats the central chugging riff with a religious reverence.

Likewise, the hired-hand star singers who populate the disk stand in awe of the original yowlers - to the point where you couldn't identify some without a cheat sheet. Train's Pat Monahan does a dead-on karaoke of David Lee Roth in "Dance the Night Away," as does Chris Daughtry of Def Leppard's Joe Elliott in "Photograph." (How a Def Leppard song got in this exclusive club is an even bigger problem.)

Of the front men, only Nas' rap, in "Back in Black," brings something radically new to the table, though it's a blast to hear Chris Cornell mimic Robert Plant's most virile phase in "Whole Lotta Love."

The biggest switchups occur in Santana's many meaty solos, which can be thrilling. Yet he has shaded his style, making it lean more toward frantic metal. At times, he can sound more like a low-down shredder, on the order of Steve Vai, than the high-minded Carlos we know. Typical is his take on the Stones' "Can't You Hear Me Knocking," which could use a less exaggerated wah-wah. It's also a shame Santana didn't tap more of his Latin roots, which comes through more in the percussion.

For his solos alone, the album has worth. But in the end, it can't help feeling a bit like an intellectual exercise. Either that or just a scheme by Clive to get his man more play on the next Rock Band video game.

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Reply #6 posted 09/21/10 3:56am

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SoulAlive said:

Carlos and India Arie performing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" on Jay Leno music

That guitar solo was horrible.... Where's Prince when you need him?


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Reply #7 posted 09/21/10 4:20am

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andykeen said:

SoulAlive said:

Carlos and India Arie performing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" on Jay Leno music

That guitar solo was horrible.... Where's Prince when you need him?

It's a stunning guitar solo but unfortunately,they badly edited it confused Around the 2:24 minute mark,they cut out part of it.Carlos played for much longer.

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