I'm not one to rant, but i feel i must do so here! this has been a long time coming

I Go the L.A Film & Recording school and i take a music class there, lord, i have quite a few friend's who are into that Illuminati/free masons stuff, yes i hate to bring that up but i must this is getting on my last damn nerve.

Ok, so i kind of sort of believe in the Illuminati maybe, or the thought of bad secret societies ok sure fine w/e

But my gosh, i seem to not be able to listen to any artist's without my friend's in this class, or other friend's in L.A dissecting every thing about the artist' and eventually concluding there an Illuminati bitch. I Mean i have had people actually tell me

Elton John, Eazy E, Led Zeppelin, The Stones, George Michael, Madonna, Lenny Kravitz, George Clinton, Sly Stone, James Brown, Even Prince are all evil!

They even judge me cause i listen to Robert Johnson!, you know the legendary bluesman who in the legendary myth, sold his soul to the devil to be the best?:, wtf the man died in 1928, that's just a myth my gosh there's no proof he was some puppet of the devil or w/e the hell you believe.

It's rare i can enjoy an artist nowadays, without them having to be dissected and any trace of a symbolism type figure and all hell break's loose, I Don't like many modern artist's but i guess i shouldn't bother cause according to everyone on the internet and L.A every new artist is working with the ''DEVIL''

These people say there trying to control our mind's, but what are you Illuminati conspiracy mofos doing?, Most of you are trying to force your beliefs on us like it's a religion, i mean the friend's i have that do this. Think i'm a bitch if i keep listening to these artist's, and i don't believe that free masons are running the world.

Is there any artist that is free of these conspiracy's

I'm tired of hearing the stories myself.

Timmy84 said:

I'm tired of hearing the stories myself.

Sometimes I visit the blogs like Ybf etc and some posters always talking about it how the artist this and that. First of all why are you on the blog talking about it if they so evil aren't you going to stay away from it. They saying they illuminati and still singing the song.

Paging Tony.....Tony......Line 1........

it's all bullshit.

and even if it wasn't, what fucking difference does it make to you if Jay-Z is doing some triangle bullshit with his hands in lieu of gang signs.

is your life really that different because of it? are your musical tastes? does it have ANY effect whatsoever on anyone or anything if Rihanna has a pyramid on the back of her album? the people buying imaginary Illuminati-sponsored records aren't actually going to be asked to join or do anything for the make-believe centuries-old secret society that's supposedly behind the scenes twirling their moustaches and never actually accomplishing the convoluted machinations that their imaginatively crackpot creators accuse them of.

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babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm tired of hearing the stories myself.

Sometimes I visit the blogs like Ybf etc and some posters always talking about it how the artist this and that. First of all why are you on the blog talking about it if they so evil aren't you going to stay away from it. They saying they illuminati and still singing the song.

Lol... yes i asked that to a few guy's on youtube.

I Mean, i'm a nice guy never looking for fight's especially on the internet it's pointless

But they will go on videos, calling them slaves, or saying there veil free mason bitches or w/e and i ask why do they keep coming on to there videos? and the best response i got was to warn people

JamFanHot said:

Paging Tony.....Tony......Line 1........

Nothing against Tony, i have nothing against anyone on here i mean it's just the internet lol

But Tony got one of my forums closed because he started talking Illuminati nonsense, and that threw everyone off and eventually my thread was locked not cool man.

errant said:

it's all bullshit.

and even if it wasn't, what fucking difference does it make to you if Jay-Z is doing some triangle bullshit with his hands in lieu of gang signs.

is your life really that different because of it? are your musical tastes? does it have ANY effect whatsoever on anyone or anything if Rihanna has a pyramid on the back of her album? the people buying imaginary Illuminati-sponsored records aren't actually going to be asked to join or do anything for the make-believe centuries-old secret society that's supposedly behind the scenes twirling their moustaches and never actually accomplishing the convoluted machinations that their imaginatively crackpot creators accuse them of.

[Edited 9/19/10 15:19pm]

Errant i think i might be in love with you lol jk

but very well said

Gunsnhalen said:

I Go the L.A Film & Recording school and i take a music class there

I mean, they're students wondering how they will break into the industry, and when you search the Internet for how the music industry works, you might find something about the actual business, but often that's where you start reading about this Illuminati theory.

It's great to learn about what makes the world go around and even symbolism and its history. The problem is every eye turns into an eye of horus and every star symbol is supposedly a pentagram, and so forth. I feel awfully gullible having endulged in such "evidence".

If it's one thing you can learn from a Mason is.. it is most important to refine your craft and make your work excellent.

Another thing, notice how very little of it helpful in deconstructing actual songs? It just ruins the music videos and cover art for you.

Timmy84 said:

I'm tired of hearing the stories myself.

Beyond. Never paid any of it the slightest bit of attention. It's just lame. Beyond lame, it's straight silly. Like a bad joke that's gone terribly, terribly wrong. Gives a really fascinating insight into how people can so easily be tricked into believing whatever it is they find interesting is true, though. *cough*religion*cough*

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm tired of hearing the stories myself.

Sometimes I visit the blogs like Ybf etc and some posters always talking about it how the artist this and that. First of all why are you on the blog talking about it if they so evil aren't you going to stay away from it. They saying they illuminati and still singing the song.

And when you ask where they get their info, they almost refer to videos on YouTube which don't quite fully explain why folks think that.

Cinnie said:

Gunsnhalen said:

I Go the L.A Film & Recording school and i take a music class there

I mean, they're students wondering how they will break into the industry, and when you search the Internet for how the music industry works, you might find something about the actual business, but often that's where you start reading about this Illuminati theory.

It's great to learn about what makes the world go around and even symbolism and its history. The problem is every eye turns into an eye of horus and every star symbol is supposedly a pentagram, and so forth. I feel awfully gullible having endulged in such "evidence".

If it's one thing you can learn from a Mason is.. it is most important to refine your craft and make your work excellent.

Another thing, notice how very little of it helpful in deconstructing actual songs? It just ruins the music videos and cover art for you.

You scare me sometimes, I saw you get sunk into that though. I didn't really get into the deconstruction because the "meanings" don't make sense.

Gunsnhalen said:

JamFanHot said:

Paging Tony.....Tony......Line 1........

Nothing against Tony, i have nothing against anyone on here i mean it's just the internet lol

But Tony got one of my forums closed because he started talking Illuminati nonsense, and that threw everyone off and eventually my thread was locked not cool man.

Whoa...sorry to hear that, man. I was j/k @ Tony, honestly. I value most of what gets upped here @ The Org in the spirit of an "open forum of ideas" & all........Tony's fiercely held views are but one polemic example.

Still, rants to the point where Mods have to step in......NOT cool.

Timmy84 said:

Cinnie said:

I mean, they're students wondering how they will break into the industry, and when you search the Internet for how the music industry works, you might find something about the actual business, but often that's where you start reading about this Illuminati theory.

It's great to learn about what makes the world go around and even symbolism and its history. The problem is every eye turns into an eye of horus and every star symbol is supposedly a pentagram, and so forth. I feel awfully gullible having endulged in such "evidence".

If it's one thing you can learn from a Mason is.. it is most important to refine your craft and make your work excellent.

Another thing, notice how very little of it helpful in deconstructing actual songs? It just ruins the music videos and cover art for you.

You scare me sometimes, I saw you get sunk into that though. I didn't really get into the deconstruction because the "meanings" don't make sense.

Well it is a scary thing to believe, im sorry but i just cant go there, this to me is one of the issues i have with the internet, is that U can communicate anything to millions and billions and because people by a majority will belive things it can spread quickly. See i used to think that "nutty" ideas like this and conspiracies like George Bush blew up the Trade Center could only spread in the midwest and the deep south, usually among people that see the virgin mary in a potato chip, BUT the last year or so i have heard this ideas coming from people around me here in NYC, where u would think, there would be some sort of "common sense" or doubt. About six months ago this kid that i work with whos in college going for a degree basically talked to me for over an hour about a video on YouTube explaining how JayZ and Lebron James were part of an organization and that MJ was killed because he didnt want to join or wanted out. now im sure what scared me more, the fact that i was listening for an hour, or the fact that this kid is going for a degree in the schooling system.

So i dont buy any of it, i dont buy the JayZ thing, i dont buy Lebron or Rihanna, the worst thing Rihanna can do is try to sing a ballad. I think stories like this spread because they can now, because really anyone can get something across by just posting it, shit i can say i had a threesome with two of the girls from the HILLS and half the world would believe it, or i could say i was in starbucks and Snooki tried to cut in line and i said NO and she punched me, and that shit would be around in a hour, i mean just look at the last year, the Balloon Boy, the jerk off on the Jet Blue flight, the fake acid attack lady, i mean what wont we buy?

But for the record, this girl is purely evil Im convinced that she has some sort of powers.

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She made me like her last album, and last week in NYC i was walking and she was coming out of her appearance on the Regis show, and she walked by and said "hey" and the next thing i knew one of her songs was playing on my iPod! EVIL!

lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

You scare me sometimes, I saw you get sunk into that though. I didn't really get into the deconstruction because the "meanings" don't make sense.

Well it is a scary thing to believe, im sorry but i just cant go there, this to me is one of the issues i have with the internet, is that U can communicate anything to millions and billions and because people by a majority will belive things it can spread quickly. See i used to think that "nutty" ideas like this and conspiracies like George Bush blew up the Trade Center could only spread in the midwest and the deep south, usually among people that see the virgin mary in a potato chip, BUT the last year or so i have heard this ideas coming from people around me here in NYC, where u would think, there would be some sort of "common sense" or doubt. About six months ago this kid that i work with whos in college going for a degree basically talked to me for over an hour about a video on YouTube explaining how JayZ and Lebron James were part of an organization and that MJ was killed because he didnt want to join or wanted out. now im sure what scared me more, the fact that i was listening for an hour, or the fact that this kid is going for a degree in the schooling system.

So i dont buy any of it, i dont buy the JayZ thing, i dont buy Lebron or Rihanna, the worst thing Rihanna can do is try to sing a ballad. I think stories like this spread because they can now, because really anyone can get something across by just posting it, shit i can say i had a threesome with two of the girls from the HILLS and half the world would believe it, or i could say i was in starbucks and Snooki tried to cut in line and i said NO and she punched me, and that shit would be around in a hour, i mean just look at the last year, the Balloon Boy, the jerk off on the Jet Blue flight, the fake acid attack lady, i mean what wont we buy?

But for the record, this girl is purely evil Im convinced that she has some sort of powers.

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She made me like her last album, and last week in NYC i was walking and she was coming out of her appearance on the Regis show, and she walked by and said "hey" and the next thing i knew one of her songs was playing on my iPod! EVIL!

I agree with everything you just said. I mean if the theory is right, the aluminum foil is the reason why those people rule the industry now.

And then when it spreads to legendary figures, it gets even more ridiculous.

@ that girl being evil.

oh not this dumb illuminati shit again

JamFanHot said:

Gunsnhalen said:

Nothing against Tony, i have nothing against anyone on here i mean it's just the internet lol

But Tony got one of my forums closed because he started talking Illuminati nonsense, and that threw everyone off and eventually my thread was locked not cool man.

Whoa...sorry to hear that, man. I was j/k @ Tony, honestly. I value most of what gets upped here @ The Org in the spirit of an "open forum of ideas" & all........Tony's fiercely held views are but one polemic example.

Still, rants to the point where Mods have to step in......NOT cool.

heheeh no need to apologize=]

i'm over it it just wasn't cool.

But w/e people got to say they should say:D, Even if it grinds others gears

Please discuss the Illuminati here http://prince.org/msg/105/343624