*Expertly avoiding another MJ thread hopefully.

You can't avoid my Avatar. It's bright bastard red! Hope it puts you in a uh, uh, uh, uh, Uh! State of Shock!

This thread is about one of my favourite songs of all fucking time. Yes Seriously. #3 on Billboards Hot100, #14 in the UK. I had a whole three pages in one of my scrapbooks devoted to press releases, adverts and lyrics to this song. I loved it. Bad as a motherfucker! It rocks out! I have the picture disc, Twelve inch single (Dance Mix). I just love it!

Love the demo with Freddie Mercury (It must be released properly!) loved the final version With Mick. This was a total surprise to me back in '84, we'd have known about this months in advance if this was today. Mick Jagger and Michael Jackson? WTF?!. I know it's a love or hate song to some folks. But i think it's worthy of a chat.

I need mouth to mouth resuscitation baby!

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I like this song, I suprised it didn't chart higher (nothin wring with 3 pop / 4 black though.)

the ending of this song always cracks me up Mick Jagger sounds insane....

you got me,you got me...you got me in a state of shock...look at me...LOOK AT ME!...look at me...oh look at meeee!

Where's the link?

phoned in by both of them. a conference call with a tape recorder, if you will.

scriptgirl said:

Where's the link?

Don't naturally expect a link, it's not a law.

Hve you heard the version with Michael and Freddie Mercury?

errant said:

phoned in by both of them. a conference call with a tape recorder, if you will.

Hell NOOOOOO!

What makes you say that? It's funny what different people hear. I put this in my top 10 Jacksons songs, i can't mention Mike too much but yeah, if people want to hear something different by him, this makes the mixtape. I great a "WTF?!" usually in a good way. folks don't know this song generally.

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Vendetta1 said:

Hve you heard the version with Michael and Freddie Mercury?

Yep. Did you read between my explitives?

I dig both versions but love the MJ/Freddie demo of it.

Timmy84 said:

I dig both versions but love the MJ/Freddie demo of it.

Oh yes. I want this out in CD quality like i want 'Moonbeam Levels' out by Prince, only it's a zillion times better to me. My Holy Grail. I'd probably kill in exchange for it.

Marrk said:

Timmy84 said:

I dig both versions but love the MJ/Freddie demo of it.

Oh yes. I want this out in CD quality like i want 'Moonbeam Levels' out by Prince, only it's a zillion times better to me. My Holy Grail. I'd probably kill in exchange for it.

I feel ya.

Timmy84 said:

Marrk said:

Oh yes. I want this out in CD quality like i want 'Moonbeam Levels' out by Prince, only it's a zillion times better to me. My Holy Grail. I'd probably kill in exchange for it.

I feel ya.

THIS THIS AND THIS.

I like the Freddie/MJ demo better, just because I ADORE Freddie, but you can definitely tell it's a demo cause Freddie's not really serving it like he really could have.

And PLEASE send all your moombeam levels to me in the form of a proper release of that song and I'd be happy with that too. Thanks.

Lemme go listen to that know matter fact. It's been a minute.

I love this song, and I have the 12" single too. I remember loving it when it came out 26 years ago, and I still love it.

This song was also caught up in the backward masking craze of the 80's. ALLEGEDLY when Mick says "Look at me, look at me...ohhh, look at me" near the end of the record, he said "Hey ni**er".

When Michael said, "You GOT me in", near the end, backwards, it ALLEGEDLY said "My name is Michael". God, the silly shit we bought into back then.

I really wish Freddie had recorded this w/ MJ. But the other MJ was good, too.

Freddie/MJ have more of a punch to it

MyLuv229 said:

Freddie/MJ have more of a punch to it

I prefer this one too: Mick/MJ's version sounds a lil' stiff & calculated whereas the demo version sounds more loose and fun IMO. Love their other collaboration...

He said they worked for 3 songs, which one was the 3rd? I wouldn't mind had MJ sang a WHOLE album full of Freddie's songbook.

this track was FONKAY to me. Mike knows you have to fuse the funk and rock together to not alienate certain segments of fans. i loved state of shock, it has a killer groove AND guitar riff. other "rockers' that have great guitar but not grooves by MJ are Black or White, Give In to Me and Dirty Diana.

I don't see the point of talking about a song unless there is a link. not being mean, jes saying.

scriptgirl said:

I don't see the point of talking about a song unless there is a link. not being mean, jes saying.

That's laziness on your part, not an oversight on someone else's.

Harlepolis said:

MyLuv229 said:

Freddie/MJ have more of a punch to it

I prefer this one too: Mick/MJ's version sounds a lil' stiff & calculated whereas the demo version sounds more loose and fun IMO. Love their other collaboration...

He said they worked for 3 songs, which one was the 3rd? I wouldn't mind had MJ sang a WHOLE album full of Freddie's songbook.

The 3 songs they worked on was

State Of Shock (there was no drum so they slammed the bathroom door instead )

There Must Be More To Life Than This

Victory

Victory was later reworked with Queen and The Jacksons (which sounds EPIC) but neither version has surfaced

another piece of info. The cowriter of State Of Shock IS Freddy but under an alias

another piece of info. The cowriter of State Of Shock IS Freddy but under an alias

Randy (Lee) Hansen ?

	STATE OF SHOCK (Legal Title)
BMI Work #1405123

Denotes BMI Award Winning Song

bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:

I prefer this one too: Mick/MJ's version sounds a lil' stiff & calculated whereas the demo version sounds more loose and fun IMO. Love their other collaboration...

He said they worked for 3 songs, which one was the 3rd? I wouldn't mind had MJ sang a WHOLE album full of Freddie's songbook.

The 3 songs they worked on was

State Of Shock (there was no drum so they slammed the bathroom door instead )

There Must Be More To Life Than This

Victory

Victory was later reworked with Queen and The Jacksons (which sounds EPIC) but neither version has surfaced

another piece of info. The cowriter of State Of Shock IS Freddy but under an alias

that is an image Both had crazy sense of humor, thats one of the proofs.

I love reading about the process of songs' recordings thanx for the feedback, Jay.

Shango said:

another piece of info. The cowriter of State Of Shock IS Freddy but under an alias

Randy (Lee) Hansen ?

	STATE OF SHOCK (Legal Title)
BMI Work #1405123

Alternate Titles:

ESTADO DE SHOCK

Songwriter/Composer	Current Affiliation	CAE/IPI #
HANSEN RANDY LEE	BMI	141913886
JACKSON MICHAEL JOE	BMI	2961801
Publishers
MIJAC MUSIC	BMI	53765369

Artists
JACKSONS

Denotes BMI Award Winning Song

from Peter Freestone

We arrived at the house, having passed a security tower at the gate. We got out of the car at a mock Tudor mansion, bricks at the lower level, and white stucco and wooden beams above. Michael came to greet us with a big smile, obviously proud of his house. Before we could go in, he insisted we accompany him on a tour of the grounds. I will never forget Freddie Mercury walking through mud, wearing white jeans and white tennis shoes, talking to llamas! We were shown all the animals and taken down to a pond where Michael had swans. Michael had a real love for these animals and birds; they were part of ‘his family’, as Freddie’s friends were part of his.
Michael took us into the house. I don’t know how many rooms there were in it. I do know that Michael lived there with his mother, Katherine, his two sisters, Latoya and Janet, and there were rooms for guests should anybody stay over. As we entered Michael’s bedroom, I was struck by three things, that gave an insight to Michael.. All around the room, on the floor were his gold and platinum awards for ‘Thriller’. They obviously meant a lot to him, he kept them close, but he didn’t need to show them to the world, he didn’t need to show everybody how good he was. The second thing was the large terrarium along one wall containing his snake. Much had been made in the press about this favourite creature, and he was in Michaels’s room, but under heavy planks of wood kept in place with many bricks. He may have been a ‘friend’, but kept very securely. Third and last was- in the middle of the room was a king-size mattress on the floor.
Freddie asked Michael “where is the bed? You have enough money to buy one!” Michael’s reply “when I sleep I like to sleep close to the earth”,
“But we are up on the first floor!” retorted Freddie.
We were shown through many rooms including a film room which had a vast library of films where I watched one, while Freddie and Michael worked, joined by Janet. Another wonderful situation was when Freddie was in the toilet, Michael took me to his video games room and we played the early version of table tennis. There were two players, one black and the other white. We started playing and Michael was the one who pointed out that we were playing the opposite colours – “I’m playing the white and you’re playing the black!”
On the way to the studio at the back of the ground floor we were taken through the kitchen where we were introduced to Katherine, Michael’s mother. She was very kind and hospitable. When Freddie asked for an ashtray, she produced a jam jar lid, as no one in the house smoked!
The work comprised of a Michael track, ‘State of Shock’, which only needed another vocal, which Freddie happily provided. When they had finished it really only needed mixing, but sadly after this session time was the enemy and Freddie and Michael never had free time together, so Michael got Mick Jagger to put his vocal on this and it was released in this form.
The next was a Freddie piece he was just working on at this time. There was a piano tune and Freddie had come up with a few words. Freddie sat at the piano and let Michael try the singing. Where there were no words written Freddie told Michael to ad-lib, which he did with words about love.
Michael then ordered in some food for us all. There were these large platters of cold meats, salads, bread, and fruit. We started in, but Michael wouldn’t touch any as he was a strict vegetarian at the time and would only have food made by his mother.

Work was started on a third track with a working title ‘Victory’. There was only one technician in the studio. There were no instruments set up and no musicians. Freddie and Michael worked in much the same way. At the start of a track they need a drum track to keep the beat, and then they add music and instruments to this. Michael had a clever idea for the bass drum beat. He and Freddie were in the control room with the technician and I spent 5 minutes banging a toilet door in perfect time!! Somewhere in Michael’s vaults there is a tape of me!!
The studio was a place of work for both Freddie and Michael, but watching them you could also imagine two children in a play room. Both of them would throw their hands in the air and burst out laughing when either of them made a mistake, but it really was a serious business too. Thinking back now to this time watching these two masters of their craft were together in one place putting this music together, gives me goose bumps.

Kinda off topic, but I'm thinking of the songs that were considered for the Victory album

Torture

Wait

One More Chance

Be Not Always

State Of Shock

We Can Change The World

The Hurt

Body

----

Where Do I Stand (later released solo by Marlon)

Still In Love With You

Liberian Girl (later released on Bad)

Buffalo Bill

Victory

There Must Be More To Life Than This (later released solo by Freddie)

Power

Nona

Doing Dirty

LittleBlueCorvette probably knows some more titles

and I believe Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin' should've been on the album

bboy87 said:

Shango said: Randy (Lee) Hansen ?

interesting ... i wonder if another alias-example is documented somewhere online, because that BMI-info comes from BMI's

official site and the supposed Randy Hansen which is referred to seems the one pictured below, at the time part of the group Machine Gun :

^pictured in the middle ^

He's currently doing a tribute-project for Jimi Hendrix on his official site

Another BMI publication from Randy :

bboy87 said:

Harlepolis said:

I prefer this one too: Mick/MJ's version sounds a lil' stiff & calculated whereas the demo version sounds more loose and fun IMO. Love their other collaboration...

He said they worked for 3 songs, which one was the 3rd? I wouldn't mind had MJ sang a WHOLE album full of Freddie's songbook.

The 3 songs they worked on was

State Of Shock (there was no drum so they slammed the bathroom door instead )

There Must Be More To Life Than This

Victory

Victory was later reworked with Queen and The Jacksons (which sounds EPIC) but neither version has surfaced

another piece of info. The cowriter of State Of Shock IS Freddy but under an alias

I have two versions of, "There must be more to life". One with Freddie and one with Freddie and Michael.

Marrk said:

*Expertly avoiding another MJ thread hopefully.

You can't avoid my Avatar. It's bright bastard red! Hope it puts you in a uh, uh, uh, uh, Uh! State of Shock!

This thread is about one of my favourite songs of all fucking time. Yes Seriously. #3 on Billboards Hot100, #14 in the UK. I had a whole three pages in one of my scrapbooks devoted to press releases, adverts and lyrics to this song. I loved it. Bad as a motherfucker! It rocks out! I have the picture disc, Twelve inch single (Dance Mix). I just love it!

Love the demo with Freddie Mercury (It must be released properly!) loved the final version With Mick. This was a total surprise to me back in '84, we'd have known about this months in advance if this was today. Mick Jagger and Michael Jackson? WTF?!. I know it's a love or hate song to some folks. But i think it's worthy of a chat.

I need mouth to mouth resuscitation baby!

[Edited 9/15/10 16:37pm]

I only like a hand full of MJ songs, and this one, is my favorite.

Yeah, I said it!

Never heard the 12" or the demo (thanks to those who provided links!!)

Quentin Tarantino did an episode of iTunes Celebrity Playlist Podcast shortly after MJ died. His episode was all MJ & Jackson 5 songs and he gave much props to this track, even saying it should have replaced The Girl Is Mine on Thriller. It was the first time I ever heard anybody other than myself give props to the song.

SoulAlive said:

the ending of this song always cracks me up Mick Jagger sounds insane....

you got me,you got me...you got me in a state of shock...look at me...LOOK AT ME!...look at me...oh look at meeee!

I absolutely love this song and yes that part with Mick Jagger at the end is crazy. So dramatic. I love it!!

I've uploaded the unavailable 12 inch if anyones interested.

http://www.zshare.net/aud...344806ac1/