Vanilli said:

Couldn't have said it better myself. Fake MJ dick riders all over the place.

What do other long-time MJ fans think of this post June 25th " phenomenon?"

I mean, it's only natural.

I've been an MJ fan since 1989. I'm 22 years old, so you do the math Literally before I could walk or talk. And I was an obsessive fan. I pretty much didn't even care about any non-Jackson family music until I was 10.

So I remember how it was - not just in the post Bashir/trial days. I remember the mid 90's and the way kids at my school would talk about Michael after the first accusations. All the plastic surgery jokes, etc, etc. I would literally cry about it when I was a kid and they'd say all that stuff.

So when I see people now and they try and act like they never said all that stuff - because obviously it's even more nasty to talk trash about a dead man, it's a strange situation. They know that I haven't forgotten the way they used to talk. And it's awkward at times.

But it's not right for me to act all smug about it, as if they're now realizing something I've always known... even though that IS the case. Nobody likes somebody acting like that.

But the people that act like they were always fans/supporters when I know damn well they weren't.... it's kinda frustrating, sure. But I can't hate on it either.

If death was what it took to bring those people round, then it just sucks for them that they weren't able to appreciate a genius whilst he was alive - and maybe next time they won't be so quick to judge someone purely on trashy media sensationalism and hyperbole.

Militant said:

Vanilli said:

Couldn't have said it better myself. Fake MJ dick riders all over the place.

What do other long-time MJ fans think of this post June 25th " phenomenon?"

I mean, it's only natural.

I've been an MJ fan since 1989. I'm 22 years old, so you do the math Literally before I could walk or talk. And I was an obsessive fan. I pretty much didn't even care about any non-Jackson family music until I was 10.

So I remember how it was - not just in the post Bashir/trial days. I remember the mid 90's and the way kids at my school would talk about Michael after the first accusations. All the plastic surgery jokes, etc, etc. I would literally cry about it when I was a kid and they'd say all that stuff.

So when I see people now and they try and act like they never said all that stuff - because obviously it's even more nasty to talk trash about a dead man, it's a strange situation. They know that I haven't forgotten the way they used to talk. And it's awkward at times.

But it's not right for me to act all smug about it, as if they're now realizing something I've always known... even though that IS the case. Nobody likes somebody acting like that.

But the people that act like they were always fans/supporters when I know damn well they weren't.... it's kinda frustrating, sure. But I can't hate on it either.

If death was what it took to bring those people round, then it just sucks for them that they weren't able to appreciate a genius whilst he was alive - and maybe next time they won't be so quick to judge someone purely on trashy media sensationalism and hyperbole.

We are so much alike it's getting scary

I miss him so much and was so damn angry last night while driving and screaming & crying in my car. Someone was telling me someone in their family is related to the jackson through marriage and I didn't believe them at all and they said they have a picture with michael as well and I was really rude them about it, not even excited for them. I feel like non fans act like michael is cool, and now I act like a bitch when michael comes up cause I am so bitter and angry though I'm also grateful he gets props.

bboy87 said:

We are so much alike it's getting scary

You're my bro from another mo'.

I also have an insight into the bboy scene as my sister used to be a bgirl and her boyfriend was a professional bboy who was in championships and such. Before I knew it, the house I lived in with her was invaded by bboys 24/7.

This is some deep stuff....haunting!

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Shake A Body (Demo to Shake Your Body Down To The Ground)- 1978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opyGNFknj6Y

NOTE: check out the brothers working on the ending of Things I Do For You before they transition into Shake A Body :headphones:

Don't Stop Til You Get Enough- 1978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWh34w7zXmU

Workin' Day And Night- 1978
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2yHzXneIj8

She's Out Of My Life- 1979 (written by Tom Bahler)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPmwMazZp-A

Love Never Felt So Good- 1980
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrigFC1E6UY

This Is It- 1980 (Alternate Vocal Take)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sR1inHaKRvA

This Is It- 1980
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uUiOgYBgMM

The Girl Is Mine- 1981
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27LNFQyGt7w

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' - 1981 (the song goes as far back as 1978 but I don't this version is the earliest version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clOmxg85yDg

Billie Jean- Home Demo 1981
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYzR-I4hgYk

Billie Jean- Demo #2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJS-l3YUI2M

Billie Jean- Demo #3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0h7qoRW6sA


Beat It- 1982 (excuse the sound quality, the poster posted it like that)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eM7_86pmFxU


Baby Be Mine- 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml8EvVp1PGM

Pretty Young Thing- 1981 or 1982
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOf1N3edi54

We Are The World- 1985
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyuF3UkFQ5o

Militant said:

bboy87 said:

We are so much alike it's getting scary

You're my bro from another mo'.

I also have an insight into the bboy scene as my sister used to be a bgirl and her boyfriend was a professional bboy who was in championships and such. Before I knew it, the house I lived in with her was invaded by bboys 24/7.

Crazy, wasn't it? I've taken a break from it but I plan on getting back into it soon

I honestly wish I lived in the UK in the 90s and 00s because I think my taste in music would've fit better there

There is a pic of MJ wearing black surfaced on the internet the same a pic of him and karen faye surfaced....I think they were shot during the trial.....anyone has it?

a pic was shot during that time.....

[img:$uid]http://mjlivesonblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/1258902228.jpg[/img:$uid]

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[img:$uid]http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10400000/See-you-2011-michael-jackson-10464095-400-261.jpg[/img:$uid]

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alphastreet said:

I miss him so much and was so damn angry last night while driving and screaming & crying in my car. Someone was telling me someone in their family is related to the jackson through marriage and I didn't believe them at all and they said they have a picture with michael as well and I was really rude them about it, not even excited for them. I feel like non fans act like michael is cool, and now I act like a bitch when michael comes up cause I am so bitter and angry though I'm also grateful he gets props.

Why get mad at Michael? Just ignore them. Dammit lol

why you all ignored my question ? slobs

dag...help me

seeingvoices12 said:

There is a pic of MJ wearing black surfaced on the internet the same a pic of him and karen faye surfaced....I think they were shot during the trial.....anyone has it?

a pic was shot during that time.....

[img:$uid]http://mjlivesonblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/1258902228.jpg[/img:$uid]

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You brought up Karen, that's why no one's answering yet.

Does that say "See you in late 2011"???

seeingvoices12 said:

why you all ignored my question ? slobs

dag...help me

ANOTHER LEAK TODAY!

bboy87 said:

ANOTHER LEAK TODAY!

ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

ANOTHER LEAK TODAY!

....oh damn, I tripped and I think I dropped something in yo inbox....hmmmmmm

silverchild said:

This is some deep stuff....haunting!

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[img:$uid]http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/49/dawson_crying.gif[/img:$uid]

Seriously, that's touching stuff. Michael was a deep man. DEEP!

Militant said:

Does that say "See you in late 2011"???

It said "see you in July". Someone, whoever it is, put 2011 in there...for some weird reason...

bboy87 said:

ANOTHER LEAK TODAY!

The "Bad" rehearsal was great.

That video is awesome! Especially since "Bad" was only performed on the first 8 dates of the tour (and then later on in the Japan leg).

I've had the Bucharest show on VHS since it was first aired on BBC2 back in 1992, I believe it was broadcast the very next day after the show, and it's the full concert, unlike the version they released on DVD a few years ago which was edited, and included bits and pieces from other shows.

I always wondered when I was a kid why "Bad" was not in the setlist, so it's awesome to see this rehearsal footage.

Militant said:

That video is awesome! Especially since "Bad" was only performed on the first 8 dates of the tour (and then later on in the Japan leg).

I've had the Bucharest show on VHS since it was first aired on BBC2 back in 1992, I believe it was broadcast the very next day after the show, and it's the full concert, unlike the version they released on DVD a few years ago which was edited, and included bits and pieces from other shows.

I always wondered when I was a kid why "Bad" was not in the setlist, so it's awesome to see this rehearsal footage.

If I can remember, when I watched the thing on HBO here in America, the version that was on the DVD was similar to the one we got on HBO... I don't know if I'm certain but I don't remember thinking I saw anything different to what I watched on TV when I was eight lol

Michael should have kept performing Bad on the Dangerous Tour. I loved it from what I saw in this clip

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From Forever, Michael

BAD!

bboy87 said:

BAD!

Awesome!! Thanks for this, man.