Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

yeah jay , I wish he stayed here in the middle east , he looked healthy and happy .....

Or at least in Ireland. Either one would've been great for him. It hurts that every time I think about this era, it reminds me of when Marvin moved to Belgium and Marvin looked healthy and happy during that period.

A shame both of them gotta be the "what-ifs" and not the "what could've been's".

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Had to come out of lurk mode just to say how physically beautiful this man was. Esp those two black and white photos with the shorter hair.....Damn MJ. Gorgeous! I can fucking strangle Joe Jackson for ever making this man believe that he was not one of the most beautiful people on the planet.

Swa said:

babybugz said:

Randy was singing OPP and Mike look pissed wasn't sure if they was playing around at first but clearly he wasn't lol.

babybugz - you got to know when it came to Jackson onstage stichk nothing was spontaneous. That would have been a joke set up in advance.

Swa

Well forgive me for not noticing that one time . I never thought anything of that performance until I interact with MJ fans saying Michael was pissed.

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babybugz said:

Swa said:

babybugz - you got to know when it came to Jackson onstage stichk nothing was spontaneous. That would have been a joke set up in advance.

Swa

Well forgive me for not noticing that one time . I never thought anything of that performance until I interact with MJ fans saying Michael was pissed.

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The only way to really know is if it was repeated on both shows. Then we'll know if it was a setup or spontaneous. Personally, I thought Mike was pissed. Just seemed like it.

On another instance, watch what happens at :53 when Randy interupts Mike LOL! Jermaine's reaction at 1:00 cracks me up!

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MyLuv229 said:

By the way, it was pretty funny how he had to tap Britney at 1:25 to get her to focus on her cue

MyLuv229 said:

MyLuv229 said:

By the way, it was pretty funny how he had to tap Britney at 1:25 to get her to focus on her cue

that surprises you? None of the talent that came after the eighties surprises me with their incompetence.

No one up for the challenge? What elimination collection would you choose.

Swa said:

Ok so let's talk music - with the utlimate MJ elimination collection.

Here are the rules.

Create a playlist up to 16 tracks to feature songs from MJ's solo albums OTW through to Invincible but here is the catch - it's a knock out for each position. This means only q track one can make it, only one track 2, and so on.

For example - in your playlist which track one do you choose, Don't Stop, Wanna Be Startin Somethin', Bad, Jam, Blood on the Dancefloor, Scream or Unbreakable. Only one can go through. And once you've picked it the rest of the songs can't appear. Some are easy picks, others are difficult.

It's a deliciously painful selection. You can choose to stop at 9 tracks or go through to 16.

Here is how mine ended up.

The Swa Selects

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

2. They Don't Care about Us

3. Workin' Day and Night

4. Break of Dawn

5. Remember the Time

6. Billie Jean

7. Money

8. Black or White

9. Who is it

10. Smooth Criminal

11. Will you be there

12. 2 Bad

13. HiStory

14. Dangerous

15. Whatever Happens

I choose to stop there than include Threatened - it just didn't make the cut.

So what are your elimination selects?

Post em.

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MyLuv229 said:

babybugz said:

Well forgive me for not noticing that one time . I never thought anything of that performance until I interact with MJ fans saying Michael was pissed.

[Edited 9/12/10 14:37pm]

The only way to really know is if it was repeated on both shows. Then we'll know if it was a setup or spontaneous. Personally, I thought Mike was pissed. Just seemed like it.

On another instance, watch what happens at :53 when Randy interupts Mike LOL! Jermaine's reaction at 1:00 cracks me up!

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Doesn't Mike in this say to Randy - do not mention OPP. Which sheds light on it being done at both shows - notice the reaction the mention of it gets. I think it was a set up to kinda say to fans - see people still sample our records for hits.

Swa

seeingvoices12 said:

Still scratching my head ,wondering how MJ created this song ,what dark haunting melody

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Still scratching my head ,wondering how MJ created this song ,what dark haunting melody

it destroys any song he created , there is something about this song that I cannot explain timmy

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

it destroys any song he created , there is something about this song that I cannot explain timmy

There's something about going through depression when you're an artist that's quite enlightening. Music was probably the only way he could express himself to explain his demons.

Timmy, SeeingVoices, Bboy, Vanilli, Babybugz, Suga - I know you all wanna do the MJ elimination - I would be keen to see what tracks you choose over others.

It's a sweet pain that makes you really weigh up the merits of each track.

Post your list.

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

it destroys any song he created , there is something about this song that I cannot explain timmy

There's something about going through depression when you're an artist that's quite enlightening. Music was probably the only way he could express himself to explain his demons.

Great explanation

depression and loneliness , MJ was alone most of his life ......

Swa said:

Timmy, SeeingVoices, Bboy, Vanilli, Babybugz, Suga - I know you all wanna do the MJ elimination - I would be keen to see what tracks you choose over others.

It's a sweet pain that makes you really weigh up the merits of each track.

Post your list.

Do you need an iPod because if so count me out.

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

it destroys any song he created , there is something about this song that I cannot explain timmy

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Had to come out of lurk mode just to say how physically beautiful this man was. Esp those two black and white photos with the shorter hair.....Damn MJ. Gorgeous! I can fucking strangle Joe Jackson for ever making this man believe that he was not one of the most beautiful people on the planet.

WetDream said:

seeingvoices12 said:

it destroys any song he created , there is something about this song that I cannot explain timmy

]Hmmm.... As an MJ track it's up there among his best, but i wouldn't call it THE best. Outside of MJ it's just OK lol. Deep-ish for a pop track. Musically, it'll get slaughtered elsewhere and lyrically too! However, the melody structure, although among the MJ same old, same old... is still a showcase of sometimes simplicity can better...but for a musician, it is not something to marvel at. MJ stuck too closely to simple, child-like melodies. It just, a tiny smudge, falls out of his usual pop song circle.

Timmy84 said:

Swa said:

Timmy, SeeingVoices, Bboy, Vanilli, Babybugz, Suga - I know you all wanna do the MJ elimination - I would be keen to see what tracks you choose over others.

It's a sweet pain that makes you really weigh up the merits of each track.

Post your list.

Do you need an iPod because if so count me out.

All you need is the tracklists for the albums.

Out of all MJ's solo albums which one song (out of all track 1s) makes it through to your track one position, which track 2, Etc Etc.

For example - in your playlist which track one do you choose, Don't Stop, Wanna Be Startin Somethin', Bad, Jam, Blood on the Dancefloor, Scream or Unbreakable. Only one can go through. And once you've picked it the rest of the songs can't appear. Some are easy picks, others are difficult.

It's a deliciously painful selection. You can choose to stop at 9 tracks or go through to 16.

Here is how mine ended up.

The Swa Selects

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

2. They Don't Care about Us

3. Workin' Day and Night

4. Break of Dawn

5. Remember the Time

6. Billie Jean

7. Money

8. Black or White

9. Who is it

10. Smooth Criminal

11. Will you be there

12. 2 Bad

13. HiStory

14. Dangerous

15. Whatever Happens

I choose to stop there than include Threatened - it just didn't make the cut.

So what are your elimination selects?

All I know is that Michael is the KING OF THE WORLD... so move over Jesus

Bester24 said:

All I know is that Michael is the KING OF THE WORLD... so move over Jesus

Or move over Leo???

1.) Human Nature

2.) I Can't Help It

3.) Billie Jean

4.) Rock With You

5.) Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough

6.) Liberian Girl

7.) Beat It

8.) Dirty Diana

9.) Stranger in Moscow

10.) Whatever Happens

11.) Butterflies

12.) Smooth Criminal

13.) Keep the Faith

14.) Break of Dawn

15.) Man in the Mirror

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Timmy84 said:

1.) Human Nature

2.) I Can't Help It

3.) Billie Jean

4.) Rock With You

5.) Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough

6.) Liberian Girl

7.) Beat It

8.) Dirty Diana

9.) Stranger in Moscow

10.) Whatever Happens

11.) Butterflies

12.) Smooth Criminal

13.) In the Closet

14.) Break of Dawn

15.) Man in the Mirror

LMAO - I musn't have been clear. The point is to pick one track one from all the albums, one track two, etc. Only one first song can make it. Only one track 2 can.

For example - you can't have both In The Closet and Stranger in Moscow - as both are track 3s.

So out of all the opening tracks - Don't Stop, Wanna Be Startin' Something, Jam, Scream, Unbreakable - which one becomes your track 1. Then out of all the track 2s off the albums, which becomes your track 2, then your track 3.

Once you have knocked out the other track ones - they are gone. Then you move onto track 2.

It helps to have the albums with you to see what you are giving up.

Make sense?

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Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

1.) Human Nature

2.) I Can't Help It

3.) Billie Jean

4.) Rock With You

5.) Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough

6.) Liberian Girl

7.) Beat It

8.) Dirty Diana

9.) Stranger in Moscow

10.) Whatever Happens

11.) Butterflies

12.) Smooth Criminal

13.) In the Closet

14.) Break of Dawn

15.) Man in the Mirror

LMAO - I musn't have been clear. The point is to pick one track one from all the albums, one track two, etc. Only one first song can make it. Only one track 2 can.

For example - you can't have both In The Closet and Stranger in Moscow - as both are track 3s.

So out of all the opening tracks - Don't Stop, Wanna Be Startin' Something, Jam, Scream, Unbreakable - which one becomes your track 1. Then out of all the track 2s off the albums, which becomes your track 2, then your track 3.

Once you have knocked out the other track ones - they are gone. Then you move onto track 2.

It helps to have the albums with you to see what you are giving up.

Make sense?

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I think so lol

*this list will never be the same, so i found comfort in realizing that when i decided to take part in this lol.

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

2. Rock With You

3. Stranger in Moscow

4. Thriller

5. Off The Wall

6. Billie Jean

7. Human Nature

8. I Can't Help It

9. Who is It

*I could only force myself to choose 9 cuts. lol Don't ever ask me to do this again.

Swa said:

No one up for the challenge? What elimination collection would you choose.

Swa said:

Ok so let's talk music - with the utlimate MJ elimination collection.

Here are the rules.

Create a playlist up to 16 tracks to feature songs from MJ's solo albums OTW through to Invincible but here is the catch - it's a knock out for each position. This means only q track one can make it, only one track 2, and so on.

For example - in your playlist which track one do you choose, Don't Stop, Wanna Be Startin Somethin', Bad, Jam, Blood on the Dancefloor, Scream or Unbreakable. Only one can go through. And once you've picked it the rest of the songs can't appear. Some are easy picks, others are difficult.

It's a deliciously painful selection. You can choose to stop at 9 tracks or go through to 16.

Here is how mine ended up.

The Swa Selects

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

2. They Don't Care about Us

3. Workin' Day and Night

4. Break of Dawn

5. Remember the Time

6. Billie Jean

7. Money

8. Black or White

9. Who is it

10. Smooth Criminal

11. Will you be there

12. 2 Bad

13. HiStory

14. Dangerous

15. Whatever Happens

I choose to stop there than include Threatened - it just didn't make the cut.

So what are your elimination selects?

Post em.

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Oh Dear,here goes!

Scream

Morphine

Stranger In Moscow

Liberian Girl

Is it Scary?

Another Part Of Me

Human Nature

P.Y.T

Who Is It?

Give In To Me

Tabloid Junkie

2 Bad

History

Dangerous

Whatever Happens

Threatened

I think that was right!

scorp84 said:

*this list will never be the same, so i found comfort in realizing that when i decided to take part in this lol.

1. Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

2. Rock With You

3. Stranger in Moscow

4. Thriller

5. Off The Wall

6. Billie Jean

7. Human Nature

8. I Can't Help It

9. Who is It

*I could only force myself to choose 9 cuts. lol Don't ever ask me to do this again.

Great selections. It's painful when you realise to put on Off The Wall for example it means having to give up Remember The Time, Beat It or Earth Song.

Great choices.