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Thread started 09/03/10 5:07pm

thebanishedone

t-pain ,little wayne and the state of american music

Hello everybody i'm a 28 year old music lover from Serbia.

My country was ruled by communist leaders

but unlike other communist countries our former leaders knew they had to let

popular culture from the west to be consumed and idolized so

from the early 60's we had rock band after that we had hard rock

and other genres .so

since the early days much before my time popular music from west was the biggest ingluence on

serbian music and the popular coulture of many countries around the planet

Now days i live in a democratic country but pop music from the

west that was the best ever started to suck big time.

i wanted to hear T-Pain and Lil wayne because i know they are popular in America.

i was amazed and shocked how bad their "music" is.

no song structure no melodies no compositions,awful "singing"

drenched in auto tune.

Does anybody like that shit? how come that stuff is popular.

you had great music since the early 20'th century what happen' ?

before even bad music from USA had at least song structure

what is this now?

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Reply #1 posted 09/03/10 5:28pm

rmartin70

I hate to say it, but this is what many of our youth call good music. Yes, I am ashamed to be an american. I totally agree with you, this so-called music is mostly garbage.

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Reply #2 posted 09/03/10 6:03pm

meow85

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rmartin70 said:

I hate to say it, but this is what many of our youth call good music. Yes, I am ashamed to be an american. I totally agree with you, this so-called music is mostly garbage.

There was a time not long ago I'd have agreed with you, but....

I don't think the blame can be placed on young people. The real blame lies with the greedy fucks controlling the industry who care more about the botom line than they do art.

The thing is, this kind of music doesn't really support the bottom line anyway. There's no longevity in it. T-Pain will never be a "legacy" artist like the Rolling Stones or even Prince. Even in the short-term, it's stopped making sense. Record sales have been dropping like a lead weight this past few years. Industry execs try to blame it on illegal downloading, but anybody with properly working ears could tell you it's as simple as nobody in their right mind wanting to buy that garbage.

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Reply #3 posted 09/03/10 6:22pm

abigail05

I'm not ashamed to be an American, but I am ashamed of the greedy "music" industry crap peddlers, and the ignorant kids who can't be bothered to learn about better music and culture.

Greed and ignorance. They're helping kill this nation. In my heart I believe it's part of the devil's grand design to bring us down, little by little.

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Reply #4 posted 09/03/10 6:31pm

meow85

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abigail05 said:

I'm not ashamed to be an American, but I am ashamed of the greedy "music" industry crap peddlers, and the ignorant kids who can't be bothered to learn about better music and culture.

Greed and ignorance. They're helping kill this nation. In my heart I believe it's part of the devil's grand design to bring us down, little by little.

That's probably going too far.

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Reply #5 posted 09/03/10 6:50pm

abigail05

meow85 said:

abigail05 said:

I'm not ashamed to be an American, but I am ashamed of the greedy "music" industry crap peddlers, and the ignorant kids who can't be bothered to learn about better music and culture.

Greed and ignorance. They're helping kill this nation. In my heart I believe it's part of the devil's grand design to bring us down, little by little.

That's probably going too far.

I know that could be a real stretch for some people. But I would bet a million bucks that Stevie Wonder, Santana, and Prince would agree with me.

anyway, back on topic.

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Reply #6 posted 09/04/10 6:57am

RKJCNE

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Tpain is not even thaaaaaat popular in the unites states and although Lil Wayne has achieved alot fo commercial sucsess he is certainly not representative of all American pop music. Most people either love or hate him. Pop music over here is starting to dwindle in popularity, smalltime acts are getting bigger and bigger. American music is too diverse to be all encompassed, especially by a lame rapper.

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Reply #7 posted 09/04/10 8:49am

Timmy84

RKJCNE said:

Tpain is not even thaaaaaat popular in the unites states and although Lil Wayne has achieved alot fo commercial sucsess he is certainly not representative of all American pop music. Most people either love or hate him. Pop music over here is starting to dwindle in popularity, smalltime acts are getting bigger and bigger. American music is too diverse to be all encompassed, especially by a lame rapper.

Yeah they haven't had a hit in like two, three years.

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Reply #8 posted 09/04/10 11:34am

Alamine

thebanishedone said:

Hello everybody i'm a 28 year old music lover from Serbia.

My country was ruled by communist leaders

but unlike other communist countries our former leaders knew they had to let

popular culture from the west to be consumed and idolized so

from the early 60's we had rock band after that we had hard rock

and other genres .so

since the early days much before my time popular music from west was the biggest ingluence on

serbian music and the popular coulture of many countries around the planet

Now days i live in a democratic country but pop music from the

west that was the best ever started to suck big time.

i wanted to hear T-Pain and Lil wayne because i know they are popular in America.

i was amazed and shocked how bad their "music" is.

no song structure no melodies no compositions,awful "singing"

drenched in auto tune.

Does anybody like that shit? how come that stuff is popular.

you had great music since the early 20'th century what happen' ?

before even bad music from USA had at least song structure

what is this now?

[Edited 9/3/10 17:10pm]

[Edited 9/3/10 17:11pm]

[Edited 9/3/10 17:11pm]

You are lying. You aint listened to no lil wayne.

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Reply #9 posted 09/04/10 1:29pm

thebanishedone

Alamine said:

thebanishedone said:

Hello everybody i'm a 28 year old music lover from Serbia.

My country was ruled by communist leaders

but unlike other communist countries our former leaders knew they had to let

popular culture from the west to be consumed and idolized so

from the early 60's we had rock band after that we had hard rock

and other genres .so

since the early days much before my time popular music from west was the biggest ingluence on

serbian music and the popular coulture of many countries around the planet

Now days i live in a democratic country but pop music from the

west that was the best ever started to suck big time.

i wanted to hear T-Pain and Lil wayne because i know they are popular in America.

i was amazed and shocked how bad their "music" is.

no song structure no melodies no compositions,awful "singing"

drenched in auto tune.

Does anybody like that shit? how come that stuff is popular.

you had great music since the early 20'th century what happen' ?

before even bad music from USA had at least song structure

what is this now?

[Edited 9/3/10 17:10pm]

[Edited 9/3/10 17:11pm]

[Edited 9/3/10 17:11pm]

You are lying. You aint listened to no lil wayne.

No i'm not lying maybe he is called lil john or little waine

i don't care but he sucks

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Reply #10 posted 09/04/10 2:18pm

lastdecember

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Timmy84 said:

RKJCNE said:

Tpain is not even thaaaaaat popular in the unites states and although Lil Wayne has achieved alot fo commercial sucsess he is certainly not representative of all American pop music. Most people either love or hate him. Pop music over here is starting to dwindle in popularity, smalltime acts are getting bigger and bigger. American music is too diverse to be all encompassed, especially by a lame rapper.

Yeah they haven't had a hit in like two, three years.

I think calling American music "diverse" is giving it a bit too much credit, just because there is an abundance of it, doesnt mean its diverse. Granted the "net" is a well of music, but a major portion of it, is pretty routine, and not that good. A lot of what people call "indie" is part of a label, if u look deep enough at who owns an "indie" label you will trace it all to a source distributor, which in terms means you are signed to a major label, like it or not. I think Indie is just a cool word people toss around to make themselves seem like they arent playing the "game" but though they may not be walking that "main-streamed" line they are playing the game with the money of the "main-streamers". There is a huge difference in "Mainstream" and being "main-streamed"


"We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F
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Reply #11 posted 09/04/10 6:03pm

Alamine

thebanishedone said:

Alamine said:

You are lying. You aint listened to no lil wayne.

No i'm not lying maybe he is called lil john or little waine

i don't care but he sucks

You don't even know what you listened 2.

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Reply #12 posted 09/04/10 9:28pm

thebanishedone

Alamine i love all orgers including you biggrin

but Lil' Wayne sucks

he is the best joke when he tries to play guitar

[Edited 9/4/10 21:28pm]

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Reply #13 posted 09/05/10 9:10am

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abigail05 said:

meow85 said:

That's probably going too far.

I know that could be a real stretch for some people. But I would bet a million bucks that Stevie Wonder, Santana, and Prince would agree with me.

anyway, back on topic.

I agree in a way blaming things on Satan (or any evil force) sounds way out but goodness knows this music is god awful, ignorant, and has no beat that a sane person could dance too. You have to wonder if destroying popular music is another small way of pulling our country down. As a people we do not seem to be proud of our cultrue.

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Reply #14 posted 09/06/10 12:03pm

RKJCNE

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lastdecember said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah they haven't had a hit in like two, three years.

I think calling American music "diverse" is giving it a bit too much credit, just because there is an abundance of it, doesnt mean its diverse. Granted the "net" is a well of music, but a major portion of it, is pretty routine, and not that good. A lot of what people call "indie" is part of a label, if u look deep enough at who owns an "indie" label you will trace it all to a source distributor, which in terms means you are signed to a major label, like it or not. I think Indie is just a cool word people toss around to make themselves seem like they arent playing the "game" but though they may not be walking that "main-streamed" line they are playing the game with the money of the "main-streamers". There is a huge difference in "Mainstream" and being "main-streamed"

Yes the whole paradox of Indie is there. But go down to your local bar, I was at 7th st entry last night (part of first ave) where I saw some great bands. Diversity is here, just look for it.

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Reply #15 posted 09/06/10 2:40pm

Alamine

thebanishedone said:

Alamine i love all orgers including you biggrin

but Lil' Wayne sucks

he is the best joke when he tries to play guitar

[Edited 9/4/10 21:28pm]

Do you even know what you listened 2?

Maybe it was Little Wayne Brady?

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Reply #16 posted 09/07/10 10:43pm

meow85

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Alamine said:

thebanishedone said:

Alamine i love all orgers including you biggrin

but Lil' Wayne sucks

he is the best joke when he tries to play guitar

[Edited 9/4/10 21:28pm]

Do you even know what you listened 2?

Maybe it was Little Wayne Brady?

I think it's time for you to be quiet, Li'l Wayne. I'm calling you that because the only possible way you could defend his attempts at music is if you work for him, or you ARE him.

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