Alicia's lucky she has bodyguards. If she was just an average Jane Doe, she would get a beat down for her behavior. Read about her latest mistake below.

S2S: Were you guys dating other people before he got with Alicia? Were you guys separated?

Mashonda: We were married. Sleeping in the same bed and having sex every
night while he was seeing Alicia. Okay? It was an affair. 100 percent. I
don?t know why people want to change that rule so much. We had just had
a kid, for crying out loud. Our child was 8 months. I found out about
Alicia two days before my son turned 1. They had been doing their thing
for months before that.


On Why She Continues To Speak About It If She?s Moved On:

Mashonda: People ask me why am I still talking about this
and why don?t I just leave it alone. I?m like, this is going to help
somebody. My story is a universal thing. This is not just something that
only happened to me: This happens to women every day. Mine was just
ugly. If I can help the next woman get through and be positive, then I?m
going to talk about it.

On Alicia Asking Kasseem Jr. to call her ?Mommy?:


S2S: You said that Alicia wanted your baby to call her ?mommy?. How do you know that she said that?

Mashonda: My son told me.

S2S: And you told her that is not going to happen?

Mashonda: Yeah. I sent her an email and asked her to please respect
what I am to him and it?s not right for her to think that is okay. She
never replied. She doesn?t reply to me. She has never given me that
respect.



S2S: What does Swizz say?

Mashonda: He said okay, he would stop it. He wouldn?t let her do it.

S2S: That would be kind of confusing for the child.

Mashonda: Oh, it is. It is so unfair to the child. I have been in
contact with the little girls mother (the woman in England who has
Swizz?s baby). She?s a young girl. She?s a spiritual girl. She
apologized to me? I don?t even judge her. I can?t. She?s totally
different than the other one. This other one knew. Alicia knew about me
100 percent. Swizz introduced me at prior events. They were signed to
the same record company. She knew. And I emailed her and asked her to
stop doing what she was doing and she disregarded me. Just like she
disregarded me when I asked her to not have my son thinking it was okay
to call her ?umi.? You?re not his umi. You just met my son.



S2S: ?Umi? is like ?mommy??

Mashonda: ?Umi? means ?mommy? in Arabic. I?m like no. And then after I
spoke to the lady in London, she told me that she tried to get her
daughter to call her ?umi? as well.



S2S: She?s met the lady in London?

Mashonda: Yes. I?m glad she?s having her own child now because now she will have someone to call her ?umi?.



S2S: Wow.

Mashonda: Like, if you want to be a stepmother, that?s great. Be a
stepmother. But don?t think that it?s okay to make a kid call you ?umi?
or ?mommy.?

Folks really need to let this bullshit go.

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

THIS

This thread hurts my head already.

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

I guess in this case, both parties are triflin'. He obviously knew, and so did Alicia. It is funny how the press is easier on the cheatin' man (with the exception of Tiger...this chump was tryin' to be the black Hugh Hefner). I'm reminded of the whole Angelina v. Jennifer thing, because not one person acknowledged the fact that Brad was a big ol' hoe, too. All they care about are the catfights.

If you love someone, set them free. If they come back to you, then it was meant to be. It's hard right now, but that's all she could do.

He's got the "swizzle stick"

what what

Swiiiiii-zle

I'm not hating on Swizz or Alicia but this shit won't last. I've never seen two people hook up behind someones back and make it. You have to do relationships right. You start off on the wrong foot you end on the wrong foot. Mark my words.

NONSENSE said:

I'm not hating on Swizz or Alicia but this shit won't last. I've never seen two people hook up behind someones back and make it. You have to do relationships right. You start off on the wrong foot you end on the wrong foot. Mark my words.

I think the shit wont last mainly because they are in an industry where that shit dont last period. Worse for him because he has nonstop ass crossing his path, dont know why, he makes Jay Z look handsome, but whatever. But again the issue seems to come down to "alicia" this and that, why is she an issue, she didnt make him get with her, im tired of hearing about "code" and how you dont steal someone away, no one can be stolen, for him to get with her over his woman says more about HIM than Alicia freaking Keys, get off that already, people just looking for a new way to hate on her in a thread. Im sure if a fan beat her down to the ground at a concert the thread would be "Alicia provokes fan", give me a break already, if we have such a problem with her, lets talk about the ICONic men we idolize on this forum and their wonderful treatment of the women they were with.

Ok, where does the word "umi" fall into all of this? Are any of these characters Arab for using an Arabic word for mom? Honestly, that's the only part of the article that stood out for me.

MyLuv229 said:

Ok, where does the word "umi" fall into all of this? Are any of these characters Arab for using an Arabic word for mom? Honestly, that's the only part of the article that stood out for me.

Yeah, that's the only part of the article I was focused on too. Apparently, Swizz has the nerve to call himself a Muslim. I guess that's why the Arabic words and name Nasir are so important. People are missing the point. Mashonda is calling Alicia out again because the fool had the nerve to tell her stepkids to call her mother, when they already have biological mothers. I don't know any parents that would accept this. I wish she would stop disrespecting those women. Fame and fortune doesn't make her any better than them. She's STILL a butch lesbo/bisexual that's hurting people because she wants to stay in the closet. Everyone already knows that Alicia will leave Swizz for another woman eventually, so she needs to stop acting retarded.

MyLuv229 said:

Ok, where does the word "umi" fall into all of this? Are any of these characters Arab for using an Arabic word for mom? Honestly, that's the only part of the article that stood out for me.

short for Uminati

The adventures of Hoelicia and Gonzo continues ....

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

NONSENSE said:

I'm not hating on Swizz or Alicia but this shit won't last. I've never seen two people hook up behind someones back and make it. You have to do relationships right. You start off on the wrong foot you end on the wrong foot. Mark my words.

Not saying that Alicia and Swizz will make it... but Paul and Joanne did... that is Paul and Joanne Newman. He was married with kids. They hooked up and stayed married until his death. Some 30+ years.

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

While I do agree with everything you said. I'd have still had to beat that bitch down, bodyguards and all, for trying to get MY child to call her mommy! She can have the man but trying to take that woman's role in her child's life IS beat down worthy!

Yeah, whenever people say that marriages don't last that start when a married person cats around, I always point out Paul and Joanne. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson are another example, as are Johnny Cash and June Carter. So are Lady Antonia Fraser and the playwright Harold Pinter. And Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart. It does happen.

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scriptgirl said:

Yeah, whenever people say that marriages don't last that start when a married person cats around, I always point out Paul and Joanne. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson are another example, as are Johnny Cash and June Carter. So are Lady Antonia Fraser and the playwright Harold Pinter. And Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart. It does happen.

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Yes it does. But I also agree with the Haterina Hateritz Old Skool book of social ettiquette that says forcing your step-kid to call you mommy is whoop-ass worthy depending on the situation. I'm 40 years old and I have step-siblings (although we would never refer to each other as such), and there was no way in hell my mother tried to pull something like that with them, out of a healthy sense of boundaries for everyone involved. She had a lot of integrity with accepting her role in her step-kids' world and was a stand-up woman who didn't use manipulative tactics to draw them near to her. Their mother was the one who raised them and only she deserves the numero uno as mommy in their eyes.

On the other side of the coin,my best friend fell in love with an artist who's wife abandoned him with 3 children when their relationship fell to pieces. They married, and she was the primary caregiver for the kids, from kindergarden age on down to a diapered toddler just learning to walk. Their birth mother is just someone who has visited them from time to time, or takes them for a week each year to Disney. Eight years later, I see my friend as these kids' mommy, hands down and deserving of the title.

Ottensen said:

scriptgirl said:

Yeah, whenever people say that marriages don't last that start when a married person cats around, I always point out Paul and Joanne. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson are another example, as are Johnny Cash and June Carter. So are Lady Antonia Fraser and the playwright Harold Pinter. And Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart. It does happen.

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Yes it does. But I also agree with the Haterina Hateritz Old Skool book of social ettiquette that says forcing your step-kid to call you mommy is whoop-ass worthy depending on the situation. I'm 40 years old and I have step-siblings (although we would never refer to each other as such), and there was no way in hell my mother tried to pull something like that with them, out of a healthy sense of boundaries for everyone involved. She had a lot of integrity with accepting her role in her step-kids' world and was a stand-up woman who didn't use manipulative tactics to draw them near to her. Their mother was the one who raised them and only she deserves the numero uno as mommy in their eyes.

On the other side of the coin,my best friend fell in love with an artist who's wife abandoned him with 3 children when their relationship fell to pieces. They married, and she was the primary caregiver for the kids, from kindergarden age on down to a diapered toddler just learning to walk. Their birth mother is just someone who has visited them from time to time, or takes them for a week each year to Disney. Eight years later, I see my friend as these kids' mommy, hands down and deserving of the title.

Exactly! That's something that is earned with time. My kids were just entering their teens when my husband and I got together and they call my husband Dad and their father who has always been involved their lives, either Daddy(daughter) or Pops(son) but that didn't happen until we'd been together 5 years and they were the ones who decided that my husband had earned that level of respect from them.

I can't even lie though, they're grown now and I would STILL have a serious problem with them calling some other woman...Mommy, Mom, Mama, Ma...or any other variation of.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

While I do agree with everything you said. I'd have still had to beat that bitch down, bodyguards and all, for trying to get MY child to call her mommy! She can have the man but trying to take that woman's role in her child's life IS beat down worthy!

That I understand.

But he would get a chunk of my mind too for seeing that happening and not batting an eyelash.

Harlepolis said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

While I do agree with everything you said. I'd have still had to beat that bitch down, bodyguards and all, for trying to get MY child to call her mommy! She can have the man but trying to take that woman's role in her child's life IS beat down worthy!

That I understand.

But he would get a chunk of my mind too for seeing that happening and not batting an eyelash.

Oh Harle, my dear...don't get me twisted.

That sorry ass stankin' motherfucker would get WAAAAYYY more...than a chunk of my mind!

I see you, Aunt Ottie! I agree with the whole calling your stepmom "mommy" thing. I would tear a strip out of some woman's hide if she ever told my kid to call her that.

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

While I agree that its typical of the press to feed conflict, it seems that you are biased. The problem is BOTH of them. If you think a woman pursuing a married man, knowing he is married is not a problem then you are mistaken. As much as it is his job to "keep it in his pants", a woman chasing someone else's man is blatantly disrespectful and shows that she has no regards for his bond. So, all of that "women's sisterhood" B.S. goes out of the door under those circumstances.

BlaqueKnight said:

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

While I agree that its typical of the press to feed conflict, it seems that you are biased. The problem is BOTH of them. If you think a woman pursuing a married man, knowing he is married is not a problem then you are mistaken. As much as it is his job to "keep it in his pants", a woman chasing someone else's man is blatantly disrespectful and shows that she has no regards for his bond. So, all of that "women's sisterhood" B.S. goes out of the door under those circumstances.

it goes both ways. i hear this argument all the time, and yet when guys fucking do it, its "what us guys do". It seems to never be pointed out when a dude has multiple kids with multiple women, and when a guy chases a married woman which happens quite alot, and usually gets played , off as "why is she in a club when she's got a man at home" works both ways. But again we are going on what the press says, what a woman who just lost her husband is saying, and the other parties involved, and my guess is the truth isnt coming from any of them, so to debate the actions of people that are lieing to themselves anyway is pointless.

BlaqueKnight said:

Harlepolis said:

I don't know about any of them, but Swizz' dick must be dragging on the ground like a tail the way that woman didn't EVEN mention him in a bad light even though he was the PRIMARY problem, not Alicia or the girl from London.

Godness, when will women stop pickering with each other for the sake of and understand that the problem is not other women, its the fuckin' penis living at your house.

Yeah Alicia should've known better, but SO WAS HE, WTF?! American press have such a hard on when it comes women going at it, its fuckin' dumb.

The problem is BOTH of them. .

Isn't that what I said though? Yeah, both of them mofos are in the wrong, but at least if you(the media) wanna play the morality role, scrutiny both of them equally.

I have no idea how I'm biased when I'm not taking sides here

scriptgirl said:

Yeah, whenever people say that marriages don't last that start when a married person cats around, I always point out Paul and Joanne. Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson are another example, as are Johnny Cash and June Carter. So are Lady Antonia Fraser and the playwright Harold Pinter. And Lauren Bacall and Humphrey Bogart. It does happen.

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I didn't know about Tom Hanks and Rita Wilson. And another I forgot about was Steven Spielberg and his wife... what's her name. I forget. Anyway he was married to Amy Irving.

And the Boss, Bruce Springfield was married to the girl... Julianne Phillips (I think) she played in the TV show "sisters" (also starred Ashley Judd and Sela Ward). Bruce hooked up with the back up singer and is still with her today.

It does happen.

Bruce's wife is named Patti Scialfa and Steven's wife is Kate Capshaw. Kate initially made a play for Steven and he didn't do anything, but later on, after he and Amy divorced, he and Kate started up. Not every marriage that "starts wrong" ends wrong.

All I got to say about Alicia trying to usurp the other women's influence and position in their children's lives....

"Karma baby! because your man will do the same thing to you." He will in the future meet a new woman and tell her all the things he told you about his first wife...

(how she doesn't understand him, how she pressure's him and get so caught up in all in the glamour/game/money/career (take your pick) that she forgot about the marriage/bond/his needs.) And then he will take your baby around his new woman (he will get visitation rights) and someone will whisper to your bundle of joy "it's okay to call me mommy... that will make me happy and make us feel closer to each other".

And then you will feel the anger and pain that you are causing these women.

When Alicia's marriage goes bust, Swiss will do no such thing. Not if he wants alimony.