NDRU said:

At a G&R concert you can guarantee that there will be assholes both on the stage AND in the crowd!

MattyJam said:

I'm sorry, but everybody knows that GNR don't come on stage till late. Were you not expecting that? He's been doing this for the last 20 years.

Exactly.

If you're paying to see his huge egotistical ass in the first place then don't think he owes you anything for his idiosyncracies, and from what I've listened to his current band sound tighter than the UYI-era GN'R.

Mong said:

Neversin said:

When did nationality become a synonym for race?

And Axl has always been a bitch cunt, no surprise there...

Neversin.

You have issues understanding the terminology of the word "racist". You and Matty Jam should get a room and give each other a reacharound.

What the fuck is your problem?

And how is "Irish" a seperate race?

Neversin.

This is from the interview Axl did with Rolling Stone back in 1992. This is the interview where he stated that during regression therapy he found out his real dad fucked him in the ass when he was two years old, and his stepfather abused him. These answers do not really explain why he is still late.

One thing that has people exasperated is the late show times. Why do you go on so late?

I pretty much follow my own internal clock, and I perform better later at night. Nothing seems to work out for me until later at night. And it is our show. I don't want to make people sit around and wait -- it drives me nuts. That hour-and-a-half or two-hour time period that I'm late going onstage is living hell, because I'm wishing there was any way on earth I could get out of where I am and knowing I'm not going to be able to make it. I'm late to everything. I've always wanted to have it written in my will that when I die, the coffin shows up a half-hour late and says on the side, like in gold, SORRY I'M LATE.

What goes on before you take the stage? What actually makes you late?

The chiropractor we work with on the road tapes my ankles professionally. I kept twisting my ankles during shows, and it still happens now and then. I have weak ankles, always have. I used to run cross-country, and that was one of the things that got in the way of that. So I work with a chiropractor. I work with a massage therapist, because I put a lot of stress in my lower back, and with what I do onstage, there's a lot of rebuilding that has to be done. There's operatic voice exercise. And I started therapy in February (1991) and, Jesus, I'm right in the middle of stuff. I mean, if a heavy emotional issue surfaces and you've got a show in four hours, you have to figure out how to get that sorted out really quick before you get onstage so that you're really quick before you get onstage so that you're not in the middle of "Jungle" and have a breakdown. The pressure of having to do the show when whatever else is going on in my life is hard to get past. We did a show in Finland where I just couldn't understand why I was doing what I was doing. I sat down while I was singing "Civil War," and I was kind of looking at my lips while I was singing and looking at the microphone and looking at the roadies, and everything just shut off. Well, that doesn't make for a very good show. We're out there to win at what we do. And if that means going on two hours late and doing a good show, I'm gonna do it. I take what I do very seriously.

[Edited 9/3/10 0:03am]

Neversin said:

Mong said:

You have issues understanding the terminology of the word "racist". You and Matty Jam should get a room and give each other a reacharound.

What the fuck is your problem?

And how is "Irish" a seperate race?

Neversin.

[Flame snip - luv4u]

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[Edited 9/3/10 1:13am]

Mong said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]

I'm ignorant while you are the one who can't even tell the difference between a nationality and a race... You're probably one of those ignorant idiots who thinks "Black" and "White" are races too...

And learn how to answer a question instead of fucking around as if you know what the fuck your babbling about...

Neversin.

[Edited 9/3/10 1:12am]

rmartin70 said:

This is from the interview Axl did with Rolling Stone back in 1992. This is the interview where he stated that during regression therapy he found out his real dad fucked him in the ass when he was two years old, and his stepfather abused him. These answers do not really explain why he is still late.

One thing that has people exasperated is the late show times. Why do you go on so late?

I pretty much follow my own internal clock, and I perform better later at night. Nothing seems to work out for me until later at night. And it is our show. I don't want to make people sit around and wait -- it drives me nuts. That hour-and-a-half or two-hour time period that I'm late going onstage is living hell, because I'm wishing there was any way on earth I could get out of where I am and knowing I'm not going to be able to make it. I'm late to everything. I've always wanted to have it written in my will that when I die, the coffin shows up a half-hour late and says on the side, like in gold, SORRY I'M LATE.

What goes on before you take the stage? What actually makes you late?

The chiropractor we work with on the road tapes my ankles professionally. I kept twisting my ankles during shows, and it still happens now and then. I have weak ankles, always have. I used to run cross-country, and that was one of the things that got in the way of that. So I work with a chiropractor. I work with a massage therapist, because I put a lot of stress in my lower back, and with what I do onstage, there's a lot of rebuilding that has to be done. There's operatic voice exercise. And I started therapy in February (1991) and, Jesus, I'm right in the middle of stuff. I mean, if a heavy emotional issue surfaces and you've got a show in four hours, you have to figure out how to get that sorted out really quick before you get onstage so that you're really quick before you get onstage so that you're not in the middle of "Jungle" and have a breakdown. The pressure of having to do the show when whatever else is going on in my life is hard to get past. We did a show in Finland where I just couldn't understand why I was doing what I was doing. I sat down while I was singing "Civil War," and I was kind of looking at my lips while I was singing and looking at the microphone and looking at the roadies, and everything just shut off. Well, that doesn't make for a very good show. We're out there to win at what we do. And if that means going on two hours late and doing a good show, I'm gonna do it. I take what I do very seriously.

[Edited 9/3/10 0:03am]

What a prick. If this is the case, just get there two hours early. Or advertise the show as late night. Its not hard to plan. He just chooses not to, and thats what makes him an idiot.

jeez...mong and a few others who replied to this need to do the same anger management course as axl rose !

rmartin70 said:

This is from the interview Axl did with Rolling Stone back in 1992. This is the interview where he stated that during regression therapy he found out his real dad fucked him in the ass when he was two years old, and his stepfather abused him. These answers do not really explain why he is still late.

One thing that has people exasperated is the late show times. Why do you go on so late?

I pretty much follow my own internal clock, and I perform better later at night. Nothing seems to work out for me until later at night. And it is our show. I don't want to make people sit around and wait -- it drives me nuts. That hour-and-a-half or two-hour time period that I'm late going onstage is living hell, because I'm wishing there was any way on earth I could get out of where I am and knowing I'm not going to be able to make it. I'm late to everything. I've always wanted to have it written in my will that when I die, the coffin shows up a half-hour late and says on the side, like in gold, SORRY I'M LATE.

What goes on before you take the stage? What actually makes you late?

The chiropractor we work with on the road tapes my ankles professionally. I kept twisting my ankles during shows, and it still happens now and then. I have weak ankles, always have. I used to run cross-country, and that was one of the things that got in the way of that. So I work with a chiropractor. I work with a massage therapist, because I put a lot of stress in my lower back, and with what I do onstage, there's a lot of rebuilding that has to be done. There's operatic voice exercise. And I started therapy in February (1991) and, Jesus, I'm right in the middle of stuff. I mean, if a heavy emotional issue surfaces and you've got a show in four hours, you have to figure out how to get that sorted out really quick before you get onstage so that you're really quick before you get onstage so that you're not in the middle of "Jungle" and have a breakdown. The pressure of having to do the show when whatever else is going on in my life is hard to get past. We did a show in Finland where I just couldn't understand why I was doing what I was doing. I sat down while I was singing "Civil War," and I was kind of looking at my lips while I was singing and looking at the microphone and looking at the roadies, and everything just shut off. Well, that doesn't make for a very good show. We're out there to win at what we do. And if that means going on two hours late and doing a good show, I'm gonna do it. I take what I do very seriously.

[Edited 9/3/10 0:03am]

I do respect that he takes what he does seriously, but he, like Kurt Cobain, is one to justify his selfish actions with the sob stories, when they are two people who can say their dreams came true, and they act like it's a huge sacrifice.

If Axl had never made it he'd probably still play music for no money and no fans, just like most musicians in this world! So he shouldn't act like it's such a sacrifice for him to do what he loves. Showing up on time is the sacrifice, and he's unwilling to make it.

Showing up two hours late is a slap in the face to the people who got you there--and that includes your bandmates.

Neversin said:

Mong said:

[Flame snip - luv4u]

I'm ignorant while you are the one who can't even tell the difference between a nationality and a race... You're probably one of those ignorant idiots who thinks "Black" and "White" are races too...

And learn how to answer a question instead of fucking around as if you know what the fuck your babbling about...

Neversin.

[Edited 9/3/10 1:12am]

YOU NEED SERIOUS HELP, DUDE.

I think it's funny as fuck how peppeken seemingly stayed right to the end, knowing public transport was done, thoroughly hating the experience, then bitches and moans about the price of a taxi. Priceless.

NDRU said:

nd33 said:

NDRU said:

I do respect that he takes what he does seriously, but he, like Kurt Cobain, is one to justify his selfish actions with the sob stories, when they are two people who can say their dreams came true, and they act like it's a huge sacrifice.

If Axl had never made it he'd probably still play music for no money and no fans, just like most musicians in this world! So he shouldn't act like it's such a sacrifice for him to do what he loves. Showing up on time is the sacrifice, and he's unwilling to make it.

Showing up two hours late is a slap in the face to the people who got you there--and that includes your bandmates.

Being a singer myself, I think that Axls vocal style is quite difficult and high in range, I can imagine he wouldn't be able to nail his vocals if he wasn't ready to hit the stage. I know my voice sounds better later at night too. Its my comfort zone and my body just seems at it's physical peak then. Not a huge fan here myself, just speculating possible contributing reasons as to why he has consistently hit the stage late at night over the years. I would imagine that the venue and promoter wouldn't be happy with encouraging a projectsd starting time of midnight so there's probably a clash there. I saw them a couple of years ago, they started very late, and Axls vocals were awesome. Maybe these late starts is just the price we have to pay?

Yeah, I have come to accept that. I am willing to pay that price anytime he is in the area.

[Edited 9/3/10 17:56pm]

nd33 said:

NDRU said:

I do respect that he takes what he does seriously, but he, like Kurt Cobain, is one to justify his selfish actions with the sob stories, when they are two people who can say their dreams came true, and they act like it's a huge sacrifice.

If Axl had never made it he'd probably still play music for no money and no fans, just like most musicians in this world! So he shouldn't act like it's such a sacrifice for him to do what he loves. Showing up on time is the sacrifice, and he's unwilling to make it.

Showing up two hours late is a slap in the face to the people who got you there--and that includes your bandmates.

Being a singer myself, I think that Axls vocal style is quite difficult and high in range, I can imagine he wouldn't be able to nail his vocals if he wasn't ready to hit the stage. I know my voice sounds better later at night too. Its my comfort zone and my body just seems at it's physical peak then. Not a huge fan here myself, just speculating possible contributing reasons as to why he has consistently hit the stage late at night over the years. I would imagine that the venue and promoter wouldn't be happy with encouraging a projectsd starting time of midnight so there's probably a clash there. I saw them a couple of years ago, they started very late, and Axls vocals were awesome. Maybe these late starts is just the price we have to pay?

yeh I'm a singer, too, and I can certainly understand not wanting to sing first thing in the morning, but is there really a difference between 9pm and 11pm?

However, you do make a good point about it maybe being an unwritten rule for G&R that they start at 11 instead of 9, because promoters would never bill a show to start that late.

But specifically for Axl, I have heard that even his band has no idea when he is showing up to a gig, and that smacks of selfishness, not professionalism

SquirrelMeat said:

Identity said:

No one deserves to get hit with a bottle of soda (or piss) if he or she shows

up late for a gig, even Axl. I swear I'd leap into the crowd and kick someone's funky ass. What happened to demanding a full refund?

no one deserves to be kept waiting for two hours and risk not getting home because he can't be bothered.

I agree with MattyJam about knowing what to expect for a GNR show. I've never been to a GNR

show or Axl show, but I can imagine from how he has behaved in the press, this shouldn't be

a shock. With that being said, no one should have to be without a ride because he didn't want

to come on at a decent time. I think that is just kind of rude. Without the fans, he wouldn't be

where he was. But then again, I'm one of those fans that smiles really big when one of my favorite artists thanks the fans in the liner notes or during a speech. Guess I'm a geek.

Wowugotit said:

Neversin said:

Mong said:

I'm ignorant while you are the one who can't even tell the difference between a nationality and a race... You're probably one of those ignorant idiots who thinks "Black" and "White" are races too...

And learn how to answer a question instead of fucking around as if you know what the fuck your babbling about...

Neversin.

[Edited 9/3/10 1:12am]

YOU NEED SERIOUS HELP, DUDE.

Don't pretend as if to know what the fuck I need, and learn how/when to use caps...

Neversin.

Axl Rose is done. Period.

My big sister saw GNR in 1988, and she says it's still the best hard-rock concert she has ever seen...

But after that Axl became the crazy motherfucker you love to hate, during the 91-93 tour he caused a lot of problems (Slash, always the gentleman, a professional) and now he's just a gross joke... 2 hours late, that's nonsense, that's madness...

If he was smart (and I believe he is not) he should forget about world tours, he clearly hates himself, his fans and perhaps the whole world.

He should concentrate on making more studio albums (Chinese Democracy was solid in my eyes), but please, no more tours...

Vanilli said:

SquirrelMeat said:

no one deserves to be kept waiting for two hours and risk not getting home because he can't be bothered.

I agree with MattyJam about knowing what to expect for a GNR show. I've never been to a GNR

show or Axl show, but I can imagine from how he has behaved in the press, this shouldn't be

a shock. With that being said, no one should have to be without a ride because he didn't want

to come on at a decent time. I think that is just kind of rude. Without the fans, he wouldn't be

where he was. But then again, I'm one of those fans that smiles really big when one of my favorite artists thanks the fans in the liner notes or during a speech. Guess I'm a geek.

I saw the real GnR in 1990. He wasn't late then. Theres my expectation. Now he is just a nobody throwing diva tantrums his bank account can't afford.

JoeTyler said:

Axl Rose is done. Period.

He should concentrate on making more studio albums (Chinese Democracy was solid in my eyes), but please, no more tours...

He's done, but his last album was good?

NDRU said:

JoeTyler said:

Axl Rose is done. Period.

He should concentrate on making more studio albums (Chinese Democracy was solid in my eyes), but please, no more tours...

He's done, but his last album was good?

Many songs were already finished during the early-00s...he spent 10 years making that album, and the results are clear. It's not a masterpiece, surem but it's a great 00s album rock. Almost as good as Illusion II...and certainly better than Illusion I...or any other rock album released in 2008/09...

JoeTyler said:

NDRU said:

He's done, but his last album was good?

Many songs were already finished during the early-00s...he spent 10 years making that album, and the results are clear. It's not a masterpiece, surem but it's a great 00s album rock. Almost as good as Illusion II...and certainly better than Illusion I...or any other rock album released in 2008/09...

I agree, I'm just wondering why you say he's done when you like his last album

NDRU said:

JoeTyler said:

Many songs were already finished during the early-00s...he spent 10 years making that album, and the results are clear. It's not a masterpiece, surem but it's a great 00s album rock. Almost as good as Illusion II...and certainly better than Illusion I...or any other rock album released in 2008/09...

I agree, I'm just wondering why you say he's done when you like his last album

He's done as a person, as a professional, and as a stage performer

But he could have a future as a songwriter/musician, but who knows if he will release another album...maybe in 2018???

JoeTyler said:

NDRU said:

I agree, I'm just wondering why you say he's done when you like his last album

He's done as a person, as a professional, and as a stage performer

But he could have a future as a songwriter/musician, but who knows if he will release another album...maybe in 2018???

that may be a generous estimate!

the thing about Chinese Democracy is that it is a good album, but like you said, it's not a masterpiece. HE should have half a dozen other albums by now. It shows what issues he has. He has nothing but money & time & the best musicians on tap, and he should be able to produce music a lot faster, but he is caught up in his own drama.