Sep 1, 2010

Apple on Wednesday announced iTunes 10, a major upgrade to its music jukebox and media management software.

Leading the changes in this version is a social networking component aimed at helping users discover new music.

Apple CEO Steve Jobs described that feature—called Ping—as “Facebook and Twitter meet iTunes.”

A major new social component of the iTunes Store, Ping is an opt-in social network that lets customers follow their favorite artists, and be followed by friends. Artists can also interact with their fans on their iTunes Store page.

You can create a “circle of friends,” view what your friends are buying and listening to or watching, post your thoughts and opinions on artist and album pages, keep track of more than 17,000 concert listings, and mark which ones you’re going to.

Ping will also be available on the iPhone and iPod touch as a new button in the iTunes Store app.

iTunes 10 also gained a new hybrid view that reorganizes the way the application displays album art in music columns.

For albums with more than five songs, iTunes can display an album icon and take up no extra space or require the window to be expanded.

iTunes 10 will be available as a free download today at Apple.com or iTunes.com.

http://www.macworld.com/a...es_10.html

[Edited 9/1/10 11:25am]

Sounds like ILike

I'm sticking to Last.FM

ernestsewell said:

I'm sticking to Last.FM

ABeautifulOne said:

ernestsewell said:

I'm sticking to Last.FM

Okay first off, you gotta warn someone w/ that profile picture!

Second, what is your LFM user name? Mine is the same as p.org.

ernestsewell said:

ABeautifulOne said:

Okay first off, you gotta warn someone w/ that profile picture!

Second, what is your LFM user name? Mine is the same as p.org.

lol thanks for the compliment and my name there is jdjlovah

"A new version of ITunes is available. Blah Blah Blah"

I always ignore that message. As long as i can do what i need to, i don't see the point.

yes, but does it work?

after the last couple of updates, i'm a little apprehensive. itunes upgrades tend to come with a lot of "helpful" re-organization of my 30,000+ song library. i THINK i just got it all set back to the way i like it and really don't feel like doing it all over again.

plus if it's going to go through all of that 20 minute bullshit of "verifying my ipod" (that's already been connected about a thousand times) and then crashing repeatedly before it takes hold, i'll pass.

from what I'm reading, it's absolutely shit.

i wish they would leave the software alone, i get upgrades every month or so...version 9.3, version 9.4 etc. etc....why is that? you're almost forced to download it, especially if you have an iphone

errant said:

yes, but does it work?

after the last couple of updates, i'm a little apprehensive. itunes upgrades tend to come with a lot of "helpful" re-organization of my 30,000+ song library. i THINK i just got it all set back to the way i like it and really don't feel like doing it all over again.

plus if it's going to go through all of that 20 minute bullshit of "verifying my ipod" (that's already been connected about a thousand times) and then crashing repeatedly before it takes hold, i'll pass.

Really? That's never happened to me. Care to expand?

sosgemini said:

errant said:

yes, but does it work?

after the last couple of updates, i'm a little apprehensive. itunes upgrades tend to come with a lot of "helpful" re-organization of my 30,000+ song library. i THINK i just got it all set back to the way i like it and really don't feel like doing it all over again.

plus if it's going to go through all of that 20 minute bullshit of "verifying my ipod" (that's already been connected about a thousand times) and then crashing repeatedly before it takes hold, i'll pass.

Really? That's never happened to me. Care to expand?

It will occasionally, on an upgrade, I'm guessing it uses old tags from a previous saved library or something. Nothing is missing, but all of a sudden, "album artist" fields that i've cleared are suddenly populated and so a disc or song pops up in the wrong place. various things like that having to do with sorting and organization sometimes get re-named, de-named, or re-verted

So now apple want to tell us what we should be listening to as well.

errant said:

sosgemini said:

Really? That's never happened to me. Care to expand?

It will occasionally, on an upgrade, I'm guessing it uses old tags from a previous saved library or something. Nothing is missing, but all of a sudden, "album artist" fields that i've cleared are suddenly populated and so a disc or song pops up in the wrong place. various things like that having to do with sorting and organization sometimes get re-named, de-named, or re-verted

Ahh...that would suck...in the not good kind of way.

Marrk said:

"A new version of ITunes is available. Blah Blah Blah"

I always ignore that message. As long as i can do what i need to, i don't see the point.

I downgraded back to 9.1 because 9.2.1 was giving me too many problems

errant said:

sosgemini said:

Really? That's never happened to me. Care to expand?

It will occasionally, on an upgrade, I'm guessing it uses old tags from a previous saved library or something. Nothing is missing, but all of a sudden, "album artist" fields that i've cleared are suddenly populated and so a disc or song pops up in the wrong place. various things like that having to do with sorting and organization sometimes get re-named, de-named, or re-verted

yeah i had a similar issue i also had a weird thing go on with Artwork, all of a sudden 3 albums had Billy Idols "rebel yell" artwork? and some others had "Britney Spears Hits" it was strange shit, but there are way too many upgrades, if there are bugs fix em once or dont release a product till Ure sure, everytime i turn around i got download a new "thing" , and then listen to "Genius" tell me that because i like a-ha i should try Keane...get the f out of here.

I don't understand the complaint about too many upgrades. No one is forcing you to upgrade with every single release that comes out. Skip a few, if you wish.

I MUCH prefer having regular releases over seeing a random update once a year or longer.

jtfolden said:

I don't understand the complaint about too many upgrades. No one is forcing you to upgrade with every single release that comes out. Skip a few, if you wish.

I MUCH prefer having regular releases over seeing a random update once a year or longer.

its not a complaint its just get your shit right the first time not change the thing every week, that and the ipod software upgrades are insane, some have knocked out libraries on the ipod touch themselves, i mean, considering they cant get something hooked up where you can purchase music from overseas decade later is incredible.

lastdecember said:

its not a complaint its just get your shit right the first time not change the thing every week, that and the ipod software upgrades are insane, some have knocked out libraries on the ipod touch themselves, i mean, considering they cant get something hooked up where you can purchase music from overseas decade later is incredible.

I'd much rather have a piece of software that is actively developed and improved over time than one that stagnates. I've yet to see one single piece of software that was released and perfect, with all the features you cold ever want, in a x.0 version. However, you seem to imply that frequent releases = substandard software or effort and there's no real logic to that. Again, for those that don't like to upgrade often, just don't do it. If a release is out that you are happy with then just stick with it until you see another one that either a) fixes a problem you have, or b) includes a new feature you want.

In regard to being able to purchase tracks released in other countries - that doesn't have a thing to do with Apple or iTunes, that is the record labels holding all of that back. I'm SURE Apple would love nothing more than to sell you whatever music you want.

The PING "feature" might be the most useless thing in the world. I have 25,000+ songs, and it will only recognize the ones I've purchased from the iTunes Music Store. I have no desire to noodle around in iTunes and "follow" someone who might listen to "When Doves Cry". If it listed ALL my music, then I'd be more apt to at least look at it.

I'm sticking with my Last.FM page.

robertlove said:

i wish they would leave the software alone, i get upgrades every month or so...version 9.3, version 9.4 etc. etc....why is that? you're almost forced to download it, especially if you have an iphone

That's why I never cared for anything associated with Apple. Apple & Windows is a bad combination. It's bad enough on Macs which it was intentionally made for.

Timmy84 said:

AlexdeParis said:

Timmy84 said:

That's why I never cared for anything associated with Apple. Apple & Windows is a bad combination. It's bad enough on Macs which it was intentionally made for.

There's nothing wrong with iTunes for Mac.

My friend that I talk to online says it is if you delete things from it...or at least I think he said something to that effect lol

Timmy84 said:

My friend that I talk to online says it is if you delete things from it...or at least I think he said something to that effect lol

Maybe they're just doing it wrong. I've been using iTunes for nearly 10 years and never had a major problem with it.

jtfolden said:

Timmy84 said:

My friend that I talk to online says it is if you delete things from it...or at least I think he said something to that effect lol

Maybe they're just doing it wrong. I've been using iTunes for nearly 10 years and never had a major problem with it.

Well not necessarily do something wrong. I just remembered what he told me, I think he told me about how it would've messed up his top 100 list or something.

[Edited 9/3/10 19:02pm]

jtfolden said:

Timmy84 said:

My friend that I talk to online says it is if you delete things from it...or at least I think he said something to that effect lol

Maybe they're just doing it wrong. I've been using iTunes for nearly 10 years and never had a major problem with it.

While the upgrading is annoying and I hate not being able to put tunes onto my crackberry, I'm otherwise happy with it.

I'll upgrade two computers to iTunes 10 another one will stay at 9.2.1. If you by a iPhone or one of the newer iPod/touch models, I think you have to have iTunes 10 or a least that's what Apples is saying on their website. Like others, I've experienced songs going to the wrong albums. For example The Carpenters and The Emotions song are in each others albums.

[Edited 9/5/10 6:45am]

went ahead and upgraded.

i don't really like it. I'm fine with them losing the color and going to grayscale in the user interface. and it does seem to be running and responding much faster.

but I really don't like the new list view. artist/album needs to go back to being under the artwork instead of at the side, or at the very least, text-wrapping if you want to make that column smaller. and they need to re-introduce re-sizing album artwork in its column. there also needs to be more definition between columns, and more line-to-line contrast in the background colors for the song titles in the grid.

if they'd fix that, i'd be fine with the whole thing, really. haven't tried Ping and not really interested in doing so. i hear you can't get rid of it once you activate it.

SquirrelMeat said:

So now apple want to tell us what we should be listening to as well.

This is why I use Last FM and Windows Media Player.

Timmy84 said:

Well not necessarily do something wrong. I just remembered what he told me, I think he told me about how it would've messed up his top 100 list or something.

[Edited 9/3/10 19:02pm]

If you delete music from your iTunes database then they DO disappear from any playlists that have previously been created... but I think that makes sense.