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Reply #570 posted 08/28/10 1:26pm

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Obviously not things like- "It wasn't Michael at the O2" More on the lines of real research which is convincing.

Not all that crazy ass stuff like Michael and Elvis are hanging out together in an island. That's just BS. LOL.

Quit holding out on me fam. Lay it on me, alright? wink

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Reply #571 posted 08/28/10 1:51pm

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What do you mean, Suga, that Joseph and Murray are not the same people in the picture?

[Edited 8/28/10 13:52pm]

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #572 posted 08/28/10 1:59pm

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What do you mean, Suga, that Joseph and Murray are not the same people in the picture?

[Edited 8/28/10 13:52pm]

Murray is two different people this whole time! Murray in the first photo looks nothing like Murray in the second photo.

Also the main character in the Gilda film in This is It faked his death.

http://www.answers.com/topic/gilda-film

Gilda (1946)

The main character faked his death.

Plot

When wealthy Ballin Mundson (George Macready) rescues down at his heels gambler Johnny Farrell (Glenn Ford) and invites him to the Buenos Aires casino he owns, both men get more than they wagered on. Farrell convinces Mundson to hire him as casino manager, but is shocked when Mundson introduces his new bride, and Farrell's old flame, Gilda (Rita Hayworth).Though Farrell is unwavering in his loyalty to his employer, and he and Gilda treat each other with contempt, Mundson realizes that the torch never died for either of the former lovers. Ordered to guard Gilda, Farrell tries to convince himself that he's protecting Mundson's interests, but Gilda sees through his self-deception. Meanwhile, Mundson reveals to Farrell that his primary business is control of an international tungsten cartel that he plans to use to further his fascist ends. With the police closing in on the cartel, Mundson fakes his death apparently leaving Gilda and Farrell free to marry. They do so: Gilda for love, but Farrell to punish her for being unfaithful to Mundson. When Mundson returns to kill them, it is he who dies, thereby freeing the lovers to apologize to each other and return to the U.S. Charles Vidor's Gilda is a voyeuristic film noir treat that engages the viewer in a complex web of sado-masochistic triangles. When, for example, Gilda performs her signature number, "Put the Blame on Mame," she is not simply enraging both Mundson and Farrell with her open sexuality, she is also crying out in pain for the love she is being denied. ~ Steve Press, All Movie Guide


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Reply #573 posted 08/28/10 2:11pm

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Hmmmm

[Edited 8/28/10 14:11pm]

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Reply #574 posted 08/28/10 2:14pm

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And what´s the point of having two Murrays?

I´ve heard about the original character in Gilda that Mike replaced. I even heard that he was born on the same day as Mike, which is weird, but it doesn´t prove anything.

Why would Mike wanna do that? He could be sick and tired of all that, but do you really think he´d do that to his kids? Or do you think that they know about it and just pretend to be sad or whatever? I am not sure about that.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #575 posted 08/28/10 2:25pm

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And what´s the point of having two Murrays?

I´ve heard about the original character in Gilda that Mike replaced. I even heard that he was born on the same day as Mike, which is weird, but it doesn´t prove anything.

Why would Mike wanna do that? He could be sick and tired of all that, but do you really think he´d do that to his kids? Or do you think that they know about it and just pretend to be sad or whatever? I am not sure about that.

And this is the problem with every theory I've read/heard about to date.

I can't picture Michael just ditching his kids. It'd be one thing if

like in August of last year, we heard about them moving abroad.

(That would raise some red flags) but, them not wearing their

masks in public, becoming a bit of a public spectacle last year,

and now going to public schools..these all seem like things Michael

was trying to avoid his kids doing - because he knew what it was like

to live in a fishbowl and didn't want that for his kids. If he was still alive,

I believe he would have stepped in by now to at least stop some of what

has been going on lately. (Not saying by announcing to the world he is alive,

but just by having the kids moved.)

On the other hand, it would have been a genius marketing move, but I think,

marketing is marketing and sadly at the end of the day, I still believe 99% -

Michael is no longer walking this earth.

P.S.

Suga - is that all you got? Murray having a clone/twin? That ain't bad. That ain't

nothin! Show me more research. Post the nitty gritty.

[Edited 8/28/10 14:27pm]

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Reply #576 posted 08/28/10 2:26pm

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dag said:

And what´s the point of having two Murrays?

I´ve heard about the original character in Gilda that Mike replaced. I even heard that he was born on the same day as Mike, which is weird, but it doesn´t prove anything.

Why would Mike wanna do that? He could be sick and tired of all that, but do you really think he´d do that to his kids? Or do you think that they know about it and just pretend to be sad or whatever? I am not sure about that.

Yes Michael would never hurt his kids- he loves them dearly. There's more to the story than the public know, and like Jermaine said "Its all going to come out!"

Also in UCLA- the doctor on duty is required to make the death announcement officially. It didn't happen.


[Edited 8/28/10 14:34pm]

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Reply #577 posted 08/28/10 2:32pm

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dag said:

And what´s the point of having two Murrays?

I´ve heard about the original character in Gilda that Mike replaced. I even heard that he was born on the same day as Mike, which is weird, but it doesn´t prove anything.

Why would Mike wanna do that? He could be sick and tired of all that, but do you really think he´d do that to his kids? Or do you think that they know about it and just pretend to be sad or whatever? I am not sure about that.

Yes Michael would never hurt his kids- he loves them dearly. There's more to the story, and like Jermaine said "Its all going to come out!" His family and kids know.

Also in UCLA- the doctor on duty is required to make the death announcement officially. It didn't happen.

[Edited 8/28/10 14:30pm]

So, wouldn't that mean that UCLA is "in on it" too then? I mean Jermaine made the announcement to the world - not a medical doctor, so wouldn't The Jacksons/MJ/Jermaine had to of gotten some kind of clearance to do that, if MJ had "left for the airport?"

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Reply #578 posted 08/28/10 2:34pm

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dag said:

And what´s the point of having two Murrays?

I´ve heard about the original character in Gilda that Mike replaced. I even heard that he was born on the same day as Mike, which is weird, but it doesn´t prove anything.

Why would Mike wanna do that? He could be sick and tired of all that, but do you really think he´d do that to his kids? Or do you think that they know about it and just pretend to be sad or whatever? I am not sure about that.

And this is the problem with every theory I've read/heard about to date.

I can't picture Michael just ditching his kids. It'd be one thing if

like in August of last year, we heard about them moving abroad.

(That would raise some red flags) but, them not wearing their

masks in public, becoming a bit of a public spectacle last year,

and now going to public schools..these all seem like things Michael

was trying to avoid his kids doing - because he knew what it was like

to live in a fishbowl and didn't want that for his kids. If he was still alive,

I believe he would have stepped in by now to at least stop some of what

has been going on lately. (Not saying by announcing to the world he is alive,

but just by having the kids moved.)

On the other hand, it would have been a genius marketing move, but I think,

marketing is marketing and sadly at the end of the day, I still believe 99% -

Michael is no longer walking this earth.

P.S.

Suga - is that all you got? Murray having a clone/twin? That ain't bad. That ain't

nothin! Show me more research. Post the nitty gritty.

[Edited 8/28/10 14:27pm]

Exactly. Unless I see Mike alive somewhere personally, there´s no amount of "evidence" that can overrule the fact that he loved his children above anything in the world and he would never ever hurt them like that or approve of half of the stuff that´s happening right now. He was preparing for and looking forward to fatherhood all his life. The minute they were born, he finished the tour he was on and forgot about his career and concentrated on being a father 100%. He constantly spoke on how much he loved them and being a father.

I think the result of such "marketing" strategy would be that the whole world would hate him more than it ever has.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #579 posted 08/28/10 2:36pm

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Anyways that enough for now, you guys can go do your own research.

Back to discussing the man and the music. smile

[Edited 8/28/10 14:36pm]

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Reply #580 posted 08/28/10 2:38pm

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dag said:

And what´s the point of having two Murrays?

I´ve heard about the original character in Gilda that Mike replaced. I even heard that he was born on the same day as Mike, which is weird, but it doesn´t prove anything.

Why would Mike wanna do that? He could be sick and tired of all that, but do you really think he´d do that to his kids? Or do you think that they know about it and just pretend to be sad or whatever? I am not sure about that.

Yes Michael would never hurt his kids- he loves them dearly. There's more to the story than the public know, and like Jermaine said "Its all going to come out!"

Also in UCLA- the doctor on duty is required to make the death announcement officially. It didn't happen.


[Edited 8/28/10 14:34pm]

Well, then Paris should be awarder an Oscar for her performance at the Memorial.

"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #581 posted 08/28/10 2:40pm

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dag said:

Vanilli said:

And this is the problem with every theory I've read/heard about to date.

I can't picture Michael just ditching his kids. It'd be one thing if

like in August of last year, we heard about them moving abroad.

(That would raise some red flags) but, them not wearing their

masks in public, becoming a bit of a public spectacle last year,

and now going to public schools..these all seem like things Michael

was trying to avoid his kids doing - because he knew what it was like

to live in a fishbowl and didn't want that for his kids. If he was still alive,

I believe he would have stepped in by now to at least stop some of what

has been going on lately. (Not saying by announcing to the world he is alive,

but just by having the kids moved.)

On the other hand, it would have been a genius marketing move, but I think,

marketing is marketing and sadly at the end of the day, I still believe 99% -

Michael is no longer walking this earth.

P.S.

Suga - is that all you got? Murray having a clone/twin? That ain't bad. That ain't

nothin! Show me more research. Post the nitty gritty.

[Edited 8/28/10 14:27pm]

Exactly. Unless I see Mike alive somewhere personally, there´s no amount of "evidence" that can overrule the fact that he loved his children above anything in the world and he would never ever hurt them like that or approve of half of the stuff that´s happening right now. He was preparing for and looking forward to fatherhood all his life. The minute they were born, he finished the tour he was on and forgot about his career and concentrated on being a father 100%. He constantly spoke on how much he loved them and being a father.

I think the result of such "marketing" strategy would be that the whole world would hate him more than it ever has.

I don't think its a marketing strategy. There is a serious reason I think.

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Reply #582 posted 08/28/10 2:42pm

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Vanilli said:

P.S.

Suga - is that all you got? Murray having a clone/twin? That ain't bad. That ain't

nothin! Show me more research. Post the nitty gritty.

[Edited 8/28/10 14:27pm]

There's iso so much more stuff. That's just a little piece in all this Just go visit the hoax forum.

Honestly I thought that forum was going to be stupid, but they caught me by surprise.

I was like OMG eek eek eek eek

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Reply #583 posted 08/28/10 2:46pm

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Anyways that enough for now, you guys can go do your own research.

Back to discussing the man and the music. smile

[Edited 8/28/10 14:36pm]

Yeah now you wanna say that. rolleyes lol

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Reply #584 posted 08/28/10 2:47pm

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Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:

Anyways that enough for now, you guys can go do your own research.

Back to discussing the man and the music. smile

[Edited 8/28/10 14:36pm]

Yeah now you wanna say that. rolleyes lol

I think I've said too much already lol.
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Reply #585 posted 08/28/10 2:54pm

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suga10 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah now you wanna say that. rolleyes lol

I think I've said too much already lol.

Mmhmm.

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Reply #586 posted 08/28/10 3:04pm

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http://www.examiner.com/jackson-family-in-national/michael-jackson-birthday-celebration-takes-place-on-emmy-sunday-fabolous-talks-event-influence

Michael Jackson: Birthday celebration takes place on Emmy Sunday -- Fabolous talks event, influence

  • August 27th, 2010 11:46 am ET
Michael Jackson
Photo: Getty Images

This year, Michael Jackson's birthday falls on the same day as the Emmy Awards will be taking place, Sunday, August 29th. Director Spike Lee is having a huge birthday celebration in honor of the legendary pop icon and he did so also last year, and it was a success. According to a new report, rapper Fabolous talks about how the celebration being in Brooklyn is a great thing, but that the music is appreciated everywhere.

As MTV reports, Fabolous says of Spike Lee and the celebration: "I mean Brooklyn is just one of the many places across the world who lived Mike's music and, you know, Spike is probably one of those people that felt like it was only just die to give him his props in BK."

As the report states, the event will be taking place from 12 to 5 p.m. The location is at the Nethermead Field at Prospect Park in Brooklyn. If you love Michael Jackson's music, this is the place to be since all of his music will be played, and it will be a great, positive way to celebrate his life and legacy of music and love.

Will you be attending the event?

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Reply #587 posted 08/28/10 3:11pm

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Fans get on my nerves with that , Michael is gone shit.
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Reply #588 posted 08/28/10 3:41pm

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There was a big hoopla on MJJC. Someone was planning on uploading the other tapes of the Dangerous Tour rehearsals when someone threatened them not to share it mad

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #589 posted 08/28/10 3:54pm

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There was a big hoopla on MJJC. Someone was planning on uploading the other tapes of the Dangerous Tour rehearsals when someone threatened them not to share it mad

Of course someone would threaten them. rolleyes They don't want us to have shit. hmph!

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Reply #590 posted 08/28/10 3:55pm

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babybugz said:

Fans get on my nerves with that , Michael is gone shit.

Yanno? sigh

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Reply #591 posted 08/28/10 3:56pm

suga10

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There was a big hoopla on MJJC. Someone was planning on uploading the other tapes of the Dangerous Tour rehearsals when someone threatened them not to share it mad

That is sooo dumb. Why would you threaten some releasing rehearsal footage. I would like to see the history tour rehearsals.
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Reply #592 posted 08/28/10 4:03pm

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Tinker Bell & The Michael Jackson Fan will be screened

at The Tri-City Independent Fan Film Festival on October 15th and 16th!



Also in other related news biggrin

Tomorrow, in honor of Michael's birthday, I will be releasing a special

audio commentary version of "Tinker Bell & The Michael Jackson Fan"

If anyone here who wants to hasn't seen my short film

please check it out above.

The special audio commentary version will be available to watch

on the Influence Films facebook group at

http://groups.to/influencefilms/

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Reply #593 posted 08/28/10 4:36pm

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Fans get on my nerves with that , Michael is gone shit.

He was not even on the Grammy Awards RIP list during the show, this year lol

How are you going to explain that wink

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Reply #594 posted 08/28/10 4:43pm

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The film "Man On The Moon" made me think of Michael, after just watching it recently. There are several similarites.....If you've seen it, you probably know what I'm talking about....And I'm not just referring to the ironic title.

"You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD
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Reply #595 posted 08/28/10 4:58pm

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Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:

Fans get on my nerves with that , Michael is gone shit.

Yanno? sigh

They need to stop with these threads if people are going to post nonsense like this , people can post whatever they want but that's another reason I can't with some MJ fans because that can't get the reality , the reality is that michael is dead and they not accepting it. I know the fans still grieving and even at times I didn't have the urge to want to listen to him anymore but you keep him alive through the music that's all you can do. Some fans need some serious help on how to deal with this .. Maybe i'm in a bad mood but it's too much now.
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Reply #597 posted 08/28/10 5:18pm

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mimi07 said:

[img:$uid]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Savvy3/Celebrities/MJ/The%20Early%20Years/1970%20-%20age%2011%2012/1970family5.jpg[/img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Savvy3/Celebrities/MJ/The%20Early%20Years/1970%20-%20age%2011%2012/1970family1.jpg[/img:$uid] [img:$uid]http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a15/Savvy3/Celebrities/MJ/The%20Early%20Years/1970%20-%20age%2011%2012/1970family4.jpg[/img:$uid]

Nice pictures , I never saw the last two thanks for posting.
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Reply #598 posted 08/28/10 5:28pm

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babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

Yanno? sigh

They need to stop with these threads if people are going to post nonsense like this , people can post whatever they want but that's another reason I can't with some MJ fans because that can't get the reality , the reality is that michael is dead and they not accepting it. I know the fans still grieving and even at times I didn't have the urge to want to listen to him anymore but you keep him alive through the music that's all you can do. Some fans need some serious help on how to deal with this .. Maybe i'm in a bad mood but it's too much now.

I feel ya. I was like that the other day.

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Reply #599 posted 08/28/10 6:10pm

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

There was a big hoopla on MJJC. Someone was planning on uploading the other tapes of the Dangerous Tour rehearsals when someone threatened them not to share it mad

Of course someone would threaten them. rolleyes They don't want us to have shit. hmph!

He was gonna upload the tape with Man In The Mirror and Bad but then someone threatened him saying he was gonna report him and MJJC to the Estate

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