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Thread started 08/18/10 9:38am

thedance

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BEE GEES - Why are they hated by so many ?

This is a fantastic album by BEE GEES:

"Spirits Having Flown" (1979)

[img:$uid]http://a.imageshack.us/img696/1188/beegeesspiritshavingflo.jpg[/img:$uid]

1. Tragedy
2. Too Much Heaven
3. Love You Inside Out
4. Reaching Out
5. Spirits (Having Flown)

6. Search, Find

7. Stop (Think Again)

8. Living Together

9. I'm Satisfied
10. Until

Why do you think BEE GEES are hated by so many question

I have always loved DISCO music... makes me feel happy.... boogie

[Edited 8/18/10 2:41am]

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Reply #1 posted 08/18/10 9:56am

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thedance said:

I have always loved DISCO music... makes me feel happy.... boogie

Most people are fearful of happiness. They are threatened by it and anyone who dare to openly display it. This leads to them wanting to destroy the thing they are threatened by. This is why D-I-S-C-O had to be eradicated. Don't even mention the word to some people. Its' mere utterance conjures up all kinds unpleasant images.

[Edited 8/18/10 3:25am]

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Reply #2 posted 08/18/10 10:03am

PANDURITO

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thedance said:

'BEE GEES - Why are they hated by so many ?'

Yes, whyyyyyyy bawl

I personally like them a lot smile

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Reply #3 posted 08/18/10 11:04am

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The Bee Gees are hated?! eek

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #4 posted 08/18/10 11:06am

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by whom ?

they are great

[Edited 8/18/10 4:06am]

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Reply #5 posted 08/18/10 11:41am

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I like the BeeGees! hmph!

One of my favorites:


"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #6 posted 08/18/10 12:10pm

SoulAlive

The Bee Gees were unfairly blacklisted because of the disco backlash confused After the 'Spirits Having Flown' album,I didn't hear any of their singles on the radio.Ironically,other folks who were closely associated with disco (John Travolta,Donna Summer,Bernard Edwards and Niles Rodgers,etc) still continued to have success in the 80s.

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Reply #7 posted 08/18/10 12:21pm

trickster

thedance said:

This is a fantastic album by BEE GEES:

"Spirits Having Flown" (1979)

[img:$uid]http://a.imageshack.us/img696/1188/beegeesspiritshavingflo.jpg[/img:$uid]


look at the picture you posted: THATS WHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Reply #8 posted 08/18/10 1:39pm

zhare

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i love the bee gees....i never heard of anybody hating them
Yeah it's like "oh you mocked me for liking him but now he's dead it's cool to play him again?" And then they look at you funny when you don't play him. -Timmy on after 6-25 fans
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Reply #9 posted 08/18/10 2:31pm

RodeoSchro

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i love the bee gees....i never heard of anybody hating them

You must be pretty young!

The Bee Gees were derided throughout the early '80's, as an incredible disco backlash spread through America. Even though the Bee Gees weren't a disco band, they were the face of disco because their songs were so prominently featured in "Saturday Night Fever".

They got a bad rap, but they persevered.

I remember when they got some big award about 10 years ago. Their producer, Robert Stigwood, made a helluva speech inducting them, and he outlined all the ups and downs the band had. Many people don't know this, but the Bee Gees had one real big run of popularity early in their career, and then faded away. "Saturday Night Fever" was actually their rebirth.

Stigwood ended his great speech with these words - "Be like the Bee Gees!"

It was awesome.

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Reply #10 posted 08/18/10 3:35pm

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They were hated by so many because there were droves of people that didn't have the good taste to like disco. Hey, everybody can't have great taste so just look down your nose at those folks and laugh because you know you're above them. evillol

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Reply #11 posted 08/18/10 3:44pm

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therevolutionwillnotbe said:

thedance said:

I have always loved DISCO music... makes me feel happy.... boogie

Most people are fearful of happiness. They are threatened by it and anyone who dare to openly display it. This leads to them wanting to destroy the thing they are threatened by. This is why D-I-S-C-O had to be eradicated. Don't even mention the word to some people. Its' mere utterance conjures up all kinds unpleasant images.

[Edited 8/18/10 3:25am]

They also hated to see other white people listening to all that black music. The disco era was less than a decade away from the civil rights era of the 1960s and they just could not stand seeing all those white people listening to a form of music that was predominately black. Listen to black folks music and you'll eventually start hanging with them and seeing them as your equals. I can't tell you how many times I heard that. And then there was the gay aspect of disco that pissed them off even more.

During the disco era, white radio had just as many black artists getting regular airplay as white artists. Hell, black artists may have even been getting more airplay from what I remember during the era. But I remember in late 1979, when the backlash began. For years, you didn't hear any black artists on white radio unless they were the more toned down and safe ones like Lionel Richie or Michael Jackson.

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Reply #12 posted 08/18/10 4:23pm

uPtoWnNY

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They also hated to see other white people listening to all that black music. The disco era was less than a decade away from the civil rights era of the 1960s and they just could not stand seeing all those white people listening to a form of music that was predominately black. Listen to black folks music and you'll eventually start hanging with them and seeing them as your equals. I can't tell you how many times I heard that. And then there was the gay aspect of disco that pissed them off even more.

During the disco era, white radio had just as many black artists getting regular airplay as white artists. Hell, black artists may have even been getting more airplay from what I remember during the era. But I remember in late 1979, when the backlash began. For years, you didn't hear any black artists on white radio unless they were the more toned down and safe ones like Lionel Richie or Michael Jackson.

Once again, vainandy speaks the truth. I remember the 'Disco Sucks' movement and anti-black/anti-gay mess attached to it. Bunch of pissed-off AOR mfers.

Who could forget the ugly incident in Comiskey Park, 'Disco Demolition Night'?

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Reply #13 posted 08/18/10 4:50pm

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The Bee Gee's are my all time favorite group. I love them and their music. I don't think they get the credit they deserve. They're often labeled as a disco act and they are much more than that.

"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

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Reply #14 posted 08/18/10 4:55pm

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vainandy said:

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Most people are fearful of happiness. They are threatened by it and anyone who dare to openly display it. This leads to them wanting to destroy the thing they are threatened by. This is why D-I-S-C-O had to be eradicated. Don't even mention the word to some people. Its' mere utterance conjures up all kinds unpleasant images.

[Edited 8/18/10 3:25am]

They also hated to see other white people listening to all that black music. The disco era was less than a decade away from the civil rights era of the 1960s and they just could not stand seeing all those white people listening to a form of music that was predominately black. Listen to black folks music and you'll eventually start hanging with them and seeing them as your equals. I can't tell you how many times I heard that. And then there was the gay aspect of disco that pissed them off even more.

During the disco era, white radio had just as many black artists getting regular airplay as white artists. Hell, black artists may have even been getting more airplay from what I remember during the era. But I remember in late 1979, when the backlash began. For years, you didn't hear any black artists on white radio unless they were the more toned down and safe ones like Lionel Richie or Michael Jackson.

I remember watching an HBO documentary about disco(forgot its title), anyway, writer Nelson George(who was among the interviewees) said something to the affect that "This genre which happens to be mainstream too, was largely dominated by black women & gay men in an all white boys club industry, it wasn't an issue when black audience and their kids embraced it, the trouble started when it sweeped all of the main clubs and most of the young white kids fully embraced and supported it with their parents hard earned money" lol

Your post reminded me of that. Come to think of it, ALL musical expressions that have been created by black people get treated with condescendence at best, and resistance at worst. Disco wasn't an exception, but I find it interesting that the rock & roll audience who have been through the same ordeal a decade earlier sided with the backlash when you expected them to sympathize. I don't know who were they fooling, like disco its another form created by black musicians too.

Overall, folks wasted their energy on condemning disco which was a pretty wholesome genre, esp comparing to rap music that invaded the 80s & early 90s,,,,,,I bet "Disco DIDN'T suck" when NWA and all of those west coast cats came in after all lol

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Reply #15 posted 08/18/10 5:09pm

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shrug I have no idea but I think VainAndy hit the nail on the head!

I love The Bee Gees!

This is STILL one of my favorite all-time jams! music

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #16 posted 08/18/10 5:11pm

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I think many people don't care for them because of their disco period and Barry's high voice. Personally, I think they are all extremely talented writers and musicians and are severely underrated. I love their music.

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Reply #17 posted 08/18/10 5:13pm

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chocolate1 said:

I like the BeeGees! hmph!

One of my favorites:

This ALWAYS puts a smile on my face! The song and the dancing! biggrin

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #18 posted 08/18/10 5:18pm

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Disco! Disco! boogie Disco! Disco! dancing jig

You Should Be Dancing!

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #19 posted 08/18/10 5:31pm

RodeoSchro

uPtoWnNY said:

vainandy said:

They also hated to see other white people listening to all that black music. The disco era was less than a decade away from the civil rights era of the 1960s and they just could not stand seeing all those white people listening to a form of music that was predominately black. Listen to black folks music and you'll eventually start hanging with them and seeing them as your equals. I can't tell you how many times I heard that. And then there was the gay aspect of disco that pissed them off even more.

During the disco era, white radio had just as many black artists getting regular airplay as white artists. Hell, black artists may have even been getting more airplay from what I remember during the era. But I remember in late 1979, when the backlash began. For years, you didn't hear any black artists on white radio unless they were the more toned down and safe ones like Lionel Richie or Michael Jackson.

Once again, vainandy speaks the truth. I remember the 'Disco Sucks' movement and anti-black/anti-gay mess attached to it. Bunch of pissed-off AOR mfers.

Who could forget the ugly incident in Comiskey Park, 'Disco Demolition Night'?

WTF?!? There was no anti-black, anti-white stuff associated with disco. At least, not here in Texas and we have no shortage of rednecks.

Hell, I can remember going to former NFL quarterback/Alabama alum Kenny Stabler's nightclub, and the dance floor was never more packed than when they'd play disco songs.

People said disco sucked because they thought disco sucked. Yes, there was gay stigma attached to the Village People, but that's because they were pretty flaming gay and were easy targets for bigots. It had nothing to do with disco per se.

"Disco Demolition Night" was alcohol fueled. They blew up the disco records at the end of the game, after everyone was drunk.

And the radio airplay point? That's so incorrect it makes me shudder. However, MTV did not play videos from African American artists until Michael Jackson's "Thriller", but that was TV, not radio, and came way after disco's demise.

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SoulAlive said:

The Bee Gees were unfairly blacklisted because of the disco backlash confused After the 'Spirits Having Flown' album,I didn't hear any of their singles on the radio.Ironically,other folks who were closely associated with disco (John Travolta,Donna Summer,Bernard Edwards and Niles Rodgers,etc) still continued to have success in the 80s.

Not so. the acting career of John Travoita was at an all time worst in the 1980's. The only thing that saved his career in the 1990's was Look Who's Talking? AND Pulp Fiction.

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Reply #21 posted 08/18/10 5:48pm

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Hated? I never heard that one before.

They were good at what they did.

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Reply #22 posted 08/18/10 5:49pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

shrug I have no idea but I think VainAndy hit the nail on the head!

I love The Bee Gees!

This is STILL one of my favorite all-time jams! music

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Reply #23 posted 08/18/10 5:54pm

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Many great explanations already. I'll just briefly add and somewhat underline.

In some cases homophobia and racism (most of disco was black and heavily enjoyed by more than straight males, and they were the face of it, even if they didn't have a disco group), insecure masculinity, too many people were enjoying something that strayed far outside their narrow ass, and the dead can't dance.

And sometimes it's just a straightforward fear of losing the music that they love beneath this craze that seemingly a the time choked out everything in its path. Just like anything that becomes mega popular, it does get replicated to the point where even many disco lovers needed a timeout.

The best of disco ranks with the best of all music ever created. But plenty of it eventually degraded into the worst kind of formula.

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Reply #24 posted 08/18/10 6:04pm

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vainandy said:

therevolutionwillnotbe said:

Most people are fearful of happiness. They are threatened by it and anyone who dare to openly display it. This leads to them wanting to destroy the thing they are threatened by. This is why D-I-S-C-O had to be eradicated. Don't even mention the word to some people. Its' mere utterance conjures up all kinds unpleasant images.

[Edited 8/18/10 3:25am]

They also hated to see other white people listening to all that black music. The disco era was less than a decade away from the civil rights era of the 1960s and they just could not stand seeing all those white people listening to a form of music that was predominately black. Listen to black folks music and you'll eventually start hanging with them and seeing them as your equals. I can't tell you how many times I heard that. And then there was the gay aspect of disco that pissed them off even more.

During the disco era, white radio had just as many black artists getting regular airplay as white artists. Hell, black artists may have even been getting more airplay from what I remember during the era. But I remember in late 1979, when the backlash began. For years, you didn't hear any black artists on white radio unless they were the more toned down and safe ones like Lionel Richie or Michael Jackson.

1981-1982 were some harsh times for music fans in retrospect. Lionel, Michael, AND Kool & The Gang made the adjustments post-disco just fine. Prince took a litttle bit longer till 1983.

But good f*** grief, FM radio was under a takeover by country crossover to mainstream pop. The Oak Ridge Boys, Juice Newton, Dolly Parton, & Kenny Rodgers (who I like for a few songs BTW!) were popular at the time. In the soft rock/adult contemporary genre, Air Supply were huge in that era, even competing against Daryl Hall & John Oates (who are a far better duo, without question) at one point.

And then there was THAT MF-ing Christopher Cross! disbelief lol Before Michael came out with the Thriller album, Christopher damn nearly became the King Of Pop because of his brand of pop songs.

But nonetheless, at least The Funk was still alive on black radio within that era. At least funk acts like Rick James, Cameo, Bar-Kays, & Roger/Zapp fought a good fight in those harsh times. cool

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Reply #25 posted 08/18/10 6:11pm

Timmy84

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The Bee Gees are hated?! eek

That's what I'm saying. I LOVE me some Bee Gees.

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Reply #26 posted 08/18/10 6:14pm

Timmy84

But I'm guessing that it's because of some people's hate of disco and what it represented to many of us (love, integration pro-GLBT, etc.) and the fact that many of the Bee Gees' material after 1973 was R&B-oriented was enough for people to get some hate on them. They already were criticized in their early career in the mid-to-late-'60s as being "Beatles wannabes" when they actually did have good music then too.

But I thought they were brilliant. And Barry and Robin are attractive. And were definitely attractive in the '70s. Maurice was cute. They all had that it factor. Them and Andy ( sigh ).

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Reply #27 posted 08/18/10 6:25pm

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I never really realized how awesome they were until a few years ago when I actually listened to their music.

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Reply #28 posted 08/18/10 6:26pm

Timmy84

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I never really realized how awesome they were until a few years ago when I actually listened to their music.

Brilliant, huh? Great lyrics, great vocal harmonies, they were something else!

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Reply #29 posted 08/18/10 6:33pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Disco! Disco! boogie Disco! Disco! dancing jig

You Should Be Dancing!

This is my ISH right CHEA!!! music I LOVES me some disco. Shoooooo.

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