School me-why doesn't the RnB community look well upon the Ronnettes? Is it cause they were so racially ambigous?

scriptgirl said:

School me-why doesn't the RnB community look well upon the Ronnettes? Is it cause they were so racially ambigous?

Their music was more pop-oriented though "Be My Baby" did well on the R&B chart and they were actually on the cover of EBONY in 1965 but as far as that goes, the Ronettes never really got props in this community for some reason. I don't know if it's the Phil Spector connection. Same can be said for Darlene Love.

Thanks, Timmy

scriptgirl said:

Thanks, Timmy

No prob.

phunkdaddy said:

Get ready for a new season of Unsung this fall starting Sept. 13

Sep.13 Teddy Pendergrass

Sep.20 Tammi Terrell

Sep.27 Heatwave

Oct. 4 George Clinton

Oct.11 Angela Winbush

Oct.18 The Fat Boys

Oct.25 Musical Youth

Nov. 1 Miki Howard

Nov. 8 O'Jays

Teddys was aiight...I really liekd the first half and how they were showing Teddy's takeover of Harold Melvin...but it got me wondering what happened to Harold?

Tammi seem like it will be alot of drama.

I really enjoyed Tammi Terrell’s episode – it was a great balance of showing her real life issues as well as her performance side. I’ve never read her bio or researched her online so like others, I believed those stories about David Ruffin’s beatings being the cause of her brain injury. I had never heard about her relationship with James Brown either so that was interesting and totally troubling given her age at the time – it seems like the beatings at the hands of these men was almost acceptable at that time. It's so sad that she passed while still young but at least she got to realize a dream while she lived.

I especially loved the segment where they played her master tracks of the great duets she sang with Marvin – her voice is so pure & beautiful. Although I have listened to her & Marvin’s duets all my life, I never gave her enough credit as a solo artist or more than a cursory listen of her tracks on their Complete Duets album but this program certainly sparked my interest in her solo vocals.

The Tammi episode was really great. I guess I'm a bit of a whore for all things Motown so alot of her story I already knew. I didn't know about her and JB tho, but so not surprised that he was beating her. That clip from youtube comes to mind, the one where's he's clearly drunk as a skunk and the woman was trying to interview him about his recent arrest for beating his wife. "I look good, I smell good, I make love good." Effing HILARIOUS!

The rape clearly jacked her whole self esteem up, which is why she allowed men like JB and David Ruffin to abuse her. I wonder what the hell was going on in those days, she and Florence both had to deal with being raped. Very very sad. They were both described as "fast" girls, so I wonder if they just put themselves in sitiations they couldn't get out of, some man took things too far and neither Florence or Tammi were able to stop certain things from happening.

I also enjoyed listening to her vocals, what a wonderful thing to hear.

Marvin was SUCH a handsome man. I loved seeing the video for You're All I Need, she was just all over him. Who wouldn't be. I knew they weren't TOGETHER, together, but one kinda wished they might have been. Altho knowing Marvin's history with the ladies he might have ended up abusing her too, not so much physically but mentally.

24 is WAY too young. Poor thing, she really fought till the end tho. And at least she found someone that wasn't beating her or abusing her, too bad they didn't have more time together.

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Timmy84 said:

NewPowerSista said:

I forgot about Jesse L Martin! Wasn't he being considered for a role as Marvin a while back? I think he's be really good. Still don't see Terence, but.........

Yeah he was but the project has been in disarray since its announcement. I think with the announcement of the two other films and schedules, production on the film may already have been postponed indefinitely and will probably never be filmed. It was announced that Jesse was gonna play Marvin in his latter-day post Motown period in 2006, no update came until 2008 when James Gandolfini announced he would play Marvin's Belgian mentor Freddy Couseart and that he would executive produce it but it's been silent since then and no word on when filming's gonna take place so I don't think it's ever coming out. There's two other films in production. I think F. Gary Gray's film on Marvin would be a documentary or was initially the plan, according to news outlets in '08, Gray wanted to do a biopic on Marvin or at least confirmed he was allowed to use Marvin's Motown catalog. Then late last year Cameron Crowe announced he was working on a Marvin biopic and that he HAS permission from Motown to use Marvin's catalog. Crowe's only difficulty is that he and the Sony film company is trying to agree on a budget, it could be announced at any time but Crowe had been planning the film for about seven years.

Shoot, by the time the movie gets underway Jesse Martin might be old as hell.

How about the guy from Dreamgirls as Marvin? He's very cute and can SANG.

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I'd take some of that on my movie screen.

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jaybendy said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah he was but the project has been in disarray since its announcement. I think with the announcement of the two other films and schedules, production on the film may already have been postponed indefinitely and will probably never be filmed. It was announced that Jesse was gonna play Marvin in his latter-day post Motown period in 2006, no update came until 2008 when James Gandolfini announced he would play Marvin's Belgian mentor Freddy Couseart and that he would executive produce it but it's been silent since then and no word on when filming's gonna take place so I don't think it's ever coming out. There's two other films in production. I think F. Gary Gray's film on Marvin would be a documentary or was initially the plan, according to news outlets in '08, Gray wanted to do a biopic on Marvin or at least confirmed he was allowed to use Marvin's Motown catalog. Then late last year Cameron Crowe announced he was working on a Marvin biopic and that he HAS permission from Motown to use Marvin's catalog. Crowe's only difficulty is that he and the Sony film company is trying to agree on a budget, it could be announced at any time but Crowe had been planning the film for about seven years.

Shoot, by the time the movie gets underway Jesse Martin might be old as hell.

How about the guy from Dreamgirls as Marvin? He's very cute and can SANG.

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I'd take some of that on my movie screen.

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He'll be acceptable especially considering...Terence.

I hear you. I'm tired of seeing Terrence Howard every damn where. He doesn't even look anything LIKE Marvin.

jaybendy said:

I hear you. I'm tired of seeing Terrence Howard every damn where. He doesn't even look anything LIKE Marvin.

Exactly.

I watched Tammi's last night and hers was quite sad, tragic. It's really sad that the domestic violence was not taken seriously back then, and folks got away with it and justified it.

Yes vote for Taraji to portray her in a biopic, and a big NO to Terence portraying Marvin. He's been MIA for a minute since getting booted from Iron Man 2. I'm looking forward to Heatwave's story next week. I don't know a darn thing about the group, just love the music.

We saw Gene Chandler last noght on Tammi Terrell's special. Let's hope he's part of next season!

LittleBLUECorvette said:

We saw Gene Chandler last noght on Tammi Terrell's special. Let's hope he's part of next season!

phunkdaddy said:

Get ready for a new season of Unsung this fall starting Sept. 13

Sep.13 Teddy Pendergrass

Sep.20 Tammi Terrell

Sep.27 Heatwave

Oct. 4 George Clinton

Oct.11 Angela Winbush

Oct.18 The Fat Boys

Oct.25 Musical Youth

Nov. 1 Miki Howard

Nov. 8 O'Jays

None of these people are Unsung, none. The Fat Boys, who? Please.

Are you HAPPY now phunkdaddy? Why don't they rename the show, "They Had A Couple of Hits and Disappeared". They were sooooo of my radar (Musical Youth that is) I didn't even see them in the list.

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TD3 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Get ready for a new season of Unsung this fall starting Sept. 13

Sep.13 Teddy Pendergrass

Sep.20 Tammi Terrell

Sep.27 Heatwave

Oct. 4 George Clinton

Oct.11 Angela Winbush

Oct.18 The Fat Boys

Oct.25 Musical Youth

Nov. 1 Miki Howard

Nov. 8 O'Jays

None of these people are Unsung, none. The Fat Boys, who? Please.

Tell 'em why you mad, girl.

Timmy84 said:

TD3 said:

None of these people are Unsung, none. The Fat Boys, who? Please.

Tell 'em why you mad, girl.

This irritates me to know end, don't ask me why. I'm going to try not to repeat myself every time Unsung unveils the musician they'll feature. It's going to be hard tho'.

TD3 said:

Timmy84 said:

Tell 'em why you mad, girl.

This irritates me to know end, don't ask me why. I'm going to try not to repeat myself every time Unsung unveils the musician they'll feature. It's going to be hard tho'.

I just watched the Heatwave episode, I wonder why Rod declined to give his insite on the group?

TD3 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Get ready for a new season of Unsung this fall starting Sept. 13

Sep.13 Teddy Pendergrass

Sep.20 Tammi Terrell

Sep.27 Heatwave

Oct. 4 George Clinton

Oct.11 Angela Winbush

Oct.18 The Fat Boys

Oct.25 Musical Youth

Nov. 1 Miki Howard

Nov. 8 O'Jays

None of these people are Unsung, none. The Fat Boys, who? Please.

Maybe you just weren't into the Fat Boys at all TD3. There are probably others that

are interested in their story although they had a short run of 4 years. I lost interest

after 1987. You scratched The Fat Boys off the list and didn't scratch Musical Youth

off. WTH?

phunkdaddy said:

TD3 said:

None of these people are Unsung, none. The Fat Boys, who? Please.

Maybe you just weren't into the Fat Boys at all TD3. There are probably others that

are interested in their story although they had a short run of 4 years. I lost interest

after 1987. You scratched The Fat Boys off the list and didn't scratch Musical Youth

off. WTH?

Abdul said:

I just watched the Heatwave episode, I wonder why Rod declined to give his insite on the group?

It would have been nice to see him give his side of the story. I enjoyed seeing other

Dayton musicians like Keith Harrison(Faze O, Heatwave, Dazz Band) and Byron Byrd(Sun)

give their perspective.

phunkdaddy said:

TD3 said:

None of these people are Unsung, none. The Fat Boys, who? Please.

Maybe you just weren't into the Fat Boys at all TD3. There are probably others that

are interested in their story although they had a short run of 4 years. I lost interest

after 1987. You scratched The Fat Boys off the list and didn't scratch Musical Youth

off. WTH?

I went back and crossed their names out too, happy. I didn't even "see" them on the list,

that's how insignificant they are.

No offense to the series, but they're waisting unsungs with George Clinton (dude is not Unsung and same with Bootsy from last season.)

And than the Fat Bioys, they could have pick the Force MDs from the same era.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

No offense to the series, but they're waisting unsungs with George Clinton (dude is not Unsung and same with Bootsy from last season.)

And than the Fat Bioys, they could have pick the Force MDs from the same era.

Thank you LB, a voice of reason.

I agree with Ms Trina and LBC. George Clinton does need an unsung and neither do the Fat Boys or Musical Youth

LittleBLUECorvette said:

No offense to the series, but they're waisting unsungs with George Clinton (dude is not Unsung and same with Bootsy from last season.)

And than the Fat Bioys, they could have pick the Force MDs from the same era.