dag said:

Some friends of mine praising this song like crazy on fcb claiming it sounds just like Michael. Am I deaf, or is this just a plain stupid song that sounds nothing like Mike.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2J2dwFVZHsY&feature=player_embedded

I knew it was that song before I even looked at the link.

I kind of like the song,but don't think he sounds anything like Michael.

Swa said:

^^ D.S. In the History lyric book with the cd D.S. was only one of a few songs that lyrics were printed for. As if to appease any confusion over whether Mike was singing Tom Sneddon or Dom Scheldon - lol.

Of course anyone listening to it knew what he was singing.

Vintage - go back and check the lyric book, listening along with it while reading the lyrics - it will make you smile.

To that end - I don't understand why so many lyric sites on the web have the wrong lyrics for songs when they are clearly displayed in the CDs.

I remember when Michael died there was a very insightful article written by a journalist that quoted from Scream and quoted the "with such collusion" line, and I saw a fan bag it out saying the journalist didn't even know the lyrics of the song. Sad thing was, the journalist was right and the fan hadn't even seen the official lyrics from the HiStory CD.

Scream lyrics are not even in the HIStory CD, it's on the Scream/Childhood single from what I recall

[Edited 8/7/10 18:23pm]

The top 5 most viewed Michael Jackson videos on YouTube/VEVO

1. Thriller - 77,753,039

2. Billie Jean - 48,687,556

3. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - 38,720,136

4. Smooth Criminal - 38,045,291

5. Bad - 37,154,048

TonyVanDam said:

The top 5 most viewed Michael Jackson videos on YouTube/VEVO

1. Thriller - 77,753,039

2. Billie Jean - 48,687,556

3. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - 38,720,136

4. Smooth Criminal - 38,045,291

5. Bad - 37,154,048

I'm surprised Beat It isn't top 5, but cool list I guess

alphastreet said:

Swa said:

^^ D.S. In the History lyric book with the cd D.S. was only one of a few songs that lyrics were printed for. As if to appease any confusion over whether Mike was singing Tom Sneddon or Dom Scheldon - lol.

Of course anyone listening to it knew what he was singing.

Vintage - go back and check the lyric book, listening along with it while reading the lyrics - it will make you smile.

To that end - I don't understand why so many lyric sites on the web have the wrong lyrics for songs when they are clearly displayed in the CDs.

I remember when Michael died there was a very insightful article written by a journalist that quoted from Scream and quoted the "with such collusion" line, and I saw a fan bag it out saying the journalist didn't even know the lyrics of the song. Sad thing was, the journalist was right and the fan hadn't even seen the official lyrics from the HiStory CD.

Scream lyrics are not even in the HIStory CD, it's on the Scream/Childhood single from what I recall

[Edited 8/7/10 18:23pm]

Huh? Yes it was. I had the booklet and the lyrics were in it lol

Timmy84 said:

alphastreet said:

Scream lyrics are not even in the HIStory CD, it's on the Scream/Childhood single from what I recall

[Edited 8/7/10 18:23pm]

Huh? Yes it was. I had the booklet and the lyrics were in it lol

*pulls out HIStory booklet* Alpha's right Timmy,there not in there.

TonyVanDam said:

The top 5 most viewed Michael Jackson videos on YouTube/VEVO

1. Thriller - 77,753,039

2. Billie Jean - 48,687,556

3. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - 38,720,136

4. Smooth Criminal - 38,045,291

5. Bad - 37,154,048

Can´t believe Don´t Stop Till You Get Enough is before Smooth Criminal.

EmeraldSkies said:

Timmy84 said:

Huh? Yes it was. I had the booklet and the lyrics were in it lol

*pulls out HIStory booklet* Alpha's right Timmy,there not in there.

Oh for real?

I have to admit it's been years and I don't know what I did with the booklet lol

[Edited 8/8/10 0:28am]

MyLuv229 said:

dag said:

OMG Thanks sooooo much for this. This is also one of my all time favourite MJ footages of all time. I adore him. I wish I had the whole thing. I´ve heard there´s about an hour of this interview. I´d die to see it.

I can´t understand all that they´re saying. Can you help me, please?

1:44 - Bashir says something about Liz and Mike puts on a very sad face...Something she´s not young and that he´s gonna regret it.

2:55 - What does Mike reply to Bashir´s comment on Tatum?

3:55 - What does Mike say about music...something is dying or what?

4:34 - They talk about women throwing clothes on the screen. What does Mike reply? He also says something about children´s day. I can´t make it out,

And whose funeral is he attending?

Thanks in advance.

[Edited 8/7/10 9:47am]

I love this footage too! Just seeing him relax and being all candid shows you that he's just a regular dude and knows how to laugh. By the way, I love his demeanor and laugh in the begining

From what I gather....

1:44 - Bashit says that Liz isn't young and that we're going to lose her soon. Prior to that around 1:35 Michael mocked the press saying "what's up with Michael and Elizabeth Taylor... what do you mean what's up.. does age make a difference? It's about spirit and soul" Maybe that's why Bashit said we'll lose her. Dumb comment.

2:55 - I think he either said "that's it" or "that's sick" Probably the former.

3:55 - He said "the music world lost a giant. They (bee gees) were amazing." Does anyone notice how Bashit sweats Michael and overly agrees with him on harmony and Michael's face is like "yeah.. whatever... next question"

4:34 - He said something like "not on tape" about the pant-throwing comment and wanted to change the subject of the filming by saying "let's do it for children's day haha"

Thanks a lot. BTW, I don´t get that Tatum comment. They are talking about the Nutty Proffesor and the way clothes fall off him after he sprays himself or what and then he says that he looks like Tatum in two years? Why? Was she fat back then, or what?

alphastreet said:

dag said:

Exactly, these are the moments I love the most about this video, him having just fun. It´s so rare to see, that´s why I love it so much. And even though I hate that Bashit made him nervous and shy, Mike´s just too adorable like that. You feel so sorry for him watching it, yet you just melt. He´s just cute, sexy and adorable.

BTW, do you understand some of the stuf they´re saying that I asked about.

[Edited 8/7/10 14:52pm]

It sounded to me like he was mumbling too, I really couldn't hear it and I'm waiting for someone to put subtitles or something one day, but during the Liz question, he looked surprised like he was trying to hide emotion. It made me think of how my mom asked me one time if it's true mj is dying and I got so upset and cried all night at the thought of it though it was many years ago.

I would have loved to spend an entire day with him just talking about everything and making music together for a few days, just for fun and if we come out with something great, awesome! But it would have been so much fun to share ideas and learn from him (or each other, I would have gotten a little competititve for jokes) Oh man........ and last year I began to appreciate nature and it was inspiring my writing and I thought of him so much so I'm sure I would have gotten a whole new appreciation from hanging out with him, and we're both Earth signs too

Cause that idiot told him he was gonna lose her soon that she´s gonna die soon.

I was thinking recently about how Mike basically brought me up. I think he was the perfect role mode, idol, we could have. He taught us so many values either by singing or talking about them or simply by being who he is. He taught us to

1. Love nature, animals, planet. Take care of it.

2. Always be respectful to people no matter what they do to you.

3. Love children and try to be the best parent possible (even though I don´t have kids yet)

4. To dare to be yourself

5. To work hard and make the best of your life

the list could go on and on...

I would have loved so much to hang out with him to learn from him cause I always loved reading his interviews, learning about his views of the world. I also miss him so much for that...knowing I´ll never learn from him again...

ViintageJunkiie said:

2 things

1. Anyone notice how MJ incorporates some of his older records into the newer ones? For example, theres a vocal run that he does in the PYT DEMO that he also does in SOMEONE PUT YOUR HAND OUT. and there's a vocal run he does in THIS TIME AROUND that he also did in SERIOUS EFFECT

2. in D.S, why do people say he's saying DOM SHELDON? I hear him saying Tom Sneddon loud and clear.

Yep, he did that alot. He incorporated the melody of the PYT demo in Joy and Fly Away and part of the vocal harmony from Another Part Of Me in Dangerous (he said this in the 1994 deposition)

I just caught the similarity between This Time Around and Serious Effect

About DS, he simply changed the title, but if you've seen the handwritten lyrics. It says "T.S"

bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

2 things

1. Anyone notice how MJ incorporates some of his older records into the newer ones? For example, theres a vocal run that he does in the PYT DEMO that he also does in SOMEONE PUT YOUR HAND OUT. and there's a vocal run he does in THIS TIME AROUND that he also did in SERIOUS EFFECT

2. in D.S, why do people say he's saying DOM SHELDON? I hear him saying Tom Sneddon loud and clear.

Yep, he did that alot. He incorporated the melody of the PYT demo in Joy and Fly Away and part of the vocal harmony from Another Part Of Me in Dangerous (he said this in the 1994 deposition)

I just caught the similarity between This Time Around and Serious Effect

About DS, he simply changed the title, but if you've seen the handwritten lyrics. It says "T.S"

Do you have it? Could you post it?

ali23 said:

bboy87 said:

Yeah I remember back when TwistedVision used to post on KOP and he was a real piece of work then he got banned as he did on MJJC

Then he went by another name on KOP and then got banned

now he's another name there...

This is what Charles tweeted. He denies stuff that they accuse him of:

CHARLES:
Gotta laugh at muzikfactory's blog. Unless she can produce one instance in which I called Michael Jackson a paedophile, I'm no hypocrite.

Digging up old quotes to that effect proves no hypocrisy because I still believe what I wrote. So unless muzikfactory can find one single documented instance of me claiming that it's OK to call an innocent man a paedophile, she's hasn't proved a bean.

Her blog is quite hilarious, though. But I don't think that's intentional.

Also on his blog:

As of yesterday my twitter account is locked and I will only accept followers who I know in person. Anybody I don't know personally has been removed from my facebook friends list and my profile is no longer accessible to anybody who isn't already following me.

The reason for this drastic course of action is that Bonnie Cox's supporters, either with or without her instruction (she says without), yesterday bombarded me with obscene hatemail and one fan in particular began recruiting cronies to spy on my personal accounts.

As anticipated, Bonnie Cox has posted a third blog about me. In it she claims that I sent her 'obscenity laden threats'. The only thing I sent Ms Cox which even vaguely resembled a threat was a notice that if she continued to publish libelous information about me, I would seek legal action.

http://charlesthomsonjour...kdown.html

Charles comes off as an asshole IMO. I remember the stuff he wrote back on KOP and reading the stuff he wrote on MJStar......

He's looks like a jerk too

[Edited 8/8/10 0:54am]

dag said:

TonyVanDam said:

The top 5 most viewed Michael Jackson videos on YouTube/VEVO

1. Thriller - 77,753,039

2. Billie Jean - 48,687,556

3. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - 38,720,136

4. Smooth Criminal - 38,045,291

5. Bad - 37,154,048

Can´t believe Don´t Stop Till You Get Enough is before Smooth Criminal.

TonyVanDam said:

The top 5 most viewed Michael Jackson videos on YouTube/VEVO

1. Thriller - 77,753,039

2. Billie Jean - 48,687,556

3. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - 38,720,136

4. Smooth Criminal - 38,045,291

5. Bad - 37,154,048

I am not surprised Don't Stop Til You Get Enough is before the likes of Smooth Criminal and Bad. There is something so simple and joyous about that video and it is MJ at his most gorgeous, before the surgery went too far. Also Don't Stop Till you You Get Enough is such a wonderful, classic song which people never seem to get tired of.

I am not surprised Don't Stop Til You Get Enough is before the likes of Smooth Criminal and Bad. There is something so simple and joyous about that video and it is MJ at his most gorgeous, before the surgery went too far. Also Don't Stop Till you You Get Enough is such a wonderful, classic song which people never seem to get tired of.

If true, I think it's unfortunate that people think that way. Though I think the bolded is probably closer to the actual truth.

Unholyalliance said:

I am not surprised Don't Stop Til You Get Enough is before the likes of Smooth Criminal and Bad. There is something so simple and joyous about that video and it is MJ at his most gorgeous, before the surgery went too far. Also Don't Stop Till you You Get Enough is such a wonderful, classic song which people never seem to get tired of.

If true, I think it's unfortunate that people think that way. Though I think the bolded is probably closer to the actual truth.

It´s not hat I wouldn´t love this video, it´s just surprising that it is popular nowadays with people like Gaga trying their hardest to be so edgy.

TonyVanDam said:

The top 5 most viewed Michael Jackson videos on YouTube/VEVO

1. Thriller - 77,753,039

2. Billie Jean - 48,687,556

3. Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough - 38,720,136

4. Smooth Criminal - 38,045,291

5. Bad - 37,154,048

If it were my list it would be like this.

1) Don't Stop Till You Get Enough (Classic MJ before he got all weirdo)

2) Smooth Criminal (Video helped to nudge this song up the list)

3) Billy Jean (Another Classic and I can remember where I was when I first heard it)

4) Bad (Didn't like this very much but it's better than the song Thriller)

5) Thriller (Video made that song, if not for the video I would not like this song at all)

^^ Maybe I am just on a pet peeve rant but Billy Jean hit it again, lol.

Come on now you know it's Billie Jean.

Swa said:

^^ Maybe I am just on a pet peeve rant but Billy Jean hit it again, lol.

Come on now you know it's Billie Jean.

Billy Jean as in numero uno?

And my video list wold be like this:

1. Scream - one of the best video's ever made hands down, and potentially more influential than Thriller.

2. Who Is It - a great song and a great unexpected video

3. Thriller - I agree the video makes the song for me

4. Smooth Criminal - it's a classic and takes me back to watching the clip over and over to learn the routine

5. Remember the Time - when it comes to a dance routine this one is on point.

As we all know the list could go on and on and depending on my mood different videos might pop up, but for right now they would be the top five on my list.

In this video I see never before seen photos from the music video One more chance , it made very sad

My video list:

1. Billie Jean - I always appreciated the dark noir feel of the video. I loved the weird, metaphorical story that unfolded.

2. Remember the Time - Probably one of my all time favorite videos that he's ever done. I loved the Egyptian theme and the gold kitty litter. Also, dat dance routine and before it starts he goes "DO YOU REMEMBA' GURL?" before that part starts. Wish I could have seen more of him dancing with that lady. They did their best to cut that scene out as much as possible.

3. Smooth Criminal - That part in the middle where it gets all quiet and everyone is just chanting 'Annie, are you okay?" has got to be my most favorite part of any music video? Why? Not really sure, but it felt really intense. Also, gravity defying lean. What more can I say?

4. Black Or White - Not a big fan of the song, but I love the video. Especially the morphing and how he did all of the different native dances. That was so awesome. As much as the panther dance made me go 'wtf' I appreciate the fact that he let it air anyways even if they cut that scene out afterwards.

5. Scream - Visually and aesthetically stunning. I remember when it aired it blew my mind. Also, watching him destroy vases and the chemistry that he had with Janet was so awesome.

I watch "Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" and "Rock With You" the most.

"Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough" is a classic, both the song AND the video.

dag said:

MyLuv229 said:

I love this footage too! Just seeing him relax and being all candid shows you that he's just a regular dude and knows how to laugh. By the way, I love his demeanor and laugh in the begining

From what I gather....

1:44 - Bashit says that Liz isn't young and that we're going to lose her soon. Prior to that around 1:35 Michael mocked the press saying "what's up with Michael and Elizabeth Taylor... what do you mean what's up.. does age make a difference? It's about spirit and soul" Maybe that's why Bashit said we'll lose her. Dumb comment.

2:55 - I think he either said "that's it" or "that's sick" Probably the former.

3:55 - He said "the music world lost a giant. They (bee gees) were amazing." Does anyone notice how Bashit sweats Michael and overly agrees with him on harmony and Michael's face is like "yeah.. whatever... next question"

4:34 - He said something like "not on tape" about the pant-throwing comment and wanted to change the subject of the filming by saying "let's do it for children's day haha"

Thanks a lot. BTW, I don´t get that Tatum comment. They are talking about the Nutty Proffesor and the way clothes fall off him after he sprays himself or what and then he says that he looks like Tatum in two years? Why? Was she fat back then, or what?

I didn't get the Tatum comment either,but I LOVED Michael's shocked face when MB said that LMAO!!

dag said:

alphastreet said:

It sounded to me like he was mumbling too, I really couldn't hear it and I'm waiting for someone to put subtitles or something one day, but during the Liz question, he looked surprised like he was trying to hide emotion. It made me think of how my mom asked me one time if it's true mj is dying and I got so upset and cried all night at the thought of it though it was many years ago.

I would have loved to spend an entire day with him just talking about everything and making music together for a few days, just for fun and if we come out with something great, awesome! But it would have been so much fun to share ideas and learn from him (or each other, I would have gotten a little competititve for jokes) Oh man........ and last year I began to appreciate nature and it was inspiring my writing and I thought of him so much so I'm sure I would have gotten a whole new appreciation from hanging out with him, and we're both Earth signs too

Cause that idiot told him he was gonna lose her soon that she´s gonna die soon.

I was thinking recently about how Mike basically brought me up. I think he was the perfect role mode, idol, we could have. He taught us so many values either by singing or talking about them or simply by being who he is. He taught us to

1. Love nature, animals, planet. Take care of it.

2. Always be respectful to people no matter what they do to you.

3. Love children and try to be the best parent possible (even though I don´t have kids yet)

4. To dare to be yourself

5. To work hard and make the best of your life

the list could go on and on...

I would have loved so much to hang out with him to learn from him cause I always loved reading his interviews, learning about his views of the world. I also miss him so much for that...knowing I´ll never learn from him again...

Yeah he made me think about a lot of things too and I think for years I was trying to be like him cause I felt we were similar in many ways, and before I got into him like that after years of enjoying the music, I was a different person, but now it almost hurts trying to continue being that person and sometimes I feel I'm becoming harsh again. I totally agree that in a way I was raised on him though, cause when one of my parents wasn't there for me, I just didn't deal with that and instead read mj's positive words, listened to the messages in the music and learned how to dance, it kept me out of trouble

Claire73 said:

dag said:

Thanks a lot. BTW, I don´t get that Tatum comment. They are talking about the Nutty Proffesor and the way clothes fall off him after he sprays himself or what and then he says that he looks like Tatum in two years? Why? Was she fat back then, or what?

I didn't get the Tatum comment either,but I LOVED Michael's shocked face when MB said that LMAO!!

Yeah, he´s too cute. I love all the faces he makes.

BTW I remember once reading about Mike and LMP being somewhere and Mike kept putting out his mirror all the time and Lisa got so annoyed by it that she told him at one point that if he took it out once again, she would throw it away or something like that. Has anyone else read it?

[Edited 8/8/10 11:44am]

dag said:

Claire73 said:

I didn't get the Tatum comment either,but I LOVED Michael's shocked face when MB said that LMAO!!

Yeah, he´s too cute. I love all the faces he makes.

BTW I remember once reading about Mike and LMP being somewhere and Mike kept putting out his mirror all the time and Lisa got so annoyed by it that she told him at one point that if he took it out once again, she would throw it away or something like that. Has anyone else read it?

[Edited 8/8/10 11:44am]

No never heard that. Awwww bless him.

yeah I have heard that, can't remember where