Timmy84 said:

his vocals

what a loss

Timmy84 said:

so beautiful, OMG! Sounds even better without the music and so powerful

ViintageJunkiie said:

seeingvoices12 said:

Is it a MJ song or MJ was featured in the track?

It's a Blaque record featuring MJ

alphastreet said:

Timmy84 said:

so beautiful, OMG! Sounds even better without the music and so powerful

I wish I could hear more accapellas from the motown days. Especially from the Get It Together, Music & Me and Dancing Machine albums

man it is so hard listening to him and thinking about him, but everytime I try to, I just redirect the sad feelings to something else and it's working now, but I don't know how much longer it will. I think about numbing it away temporarily but I know that is not healthy and I don't do anything. I'm drinking tea right now which is giving me comfort, but I shed a few tears anyway.

I look at it differently, of course, that guy had an angel's voice trapped inside his body. Hearing it by itself I'm like this ---->

Timmy84 said:

I look at it differently, of course, that guy had an angel's voice trapped inside his body. Hearing it by itself I'm like this ---->

In that case, you know more about gratitude than I do, it is something I'm working on cause I'm really having a hard time feeling it and discovering all these flaws about myself I was hiding from all these years and trying too hard to be good. Cause sometimes I would hear him since he passed and I would be mad at murray or even mad at him for leaving us though he's not to blame either it just may have been his time though I don't want to believe that though I was raised on that. I would hear the voice and just throw stones and get angry and cry again cause of being so cruel and upset and bratty, ughhh don't you wanna just shoot me now?

We have monsters living in this world. I knew that from childhood. That's why I don't even focus my attention on that. It's unfair but life's unfair, you just gotta learn how to deal with it. Nothing we say or try to do can't erase that. It's kinda when artists we admire suddenly die from something avoidable.

I wonder if there's deleted scenes/outtakes from Moonwalker

this one in particular makes me wonder

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Ecstasy (written by Michael Jackson)


I was born to never die
To live in bliss, to never cry
To speak the truth and never lie
To share my love without a sigh
To stretch my arms without a tie
This is my dance, this is my high
It's not a secret, can't you see
Why can't we all live in ecstasy

Ecstasy ... Ecstasy
Why can't we all
Live in Ecstasy.

Without a guilt, without regret
I am here to forget
Tainted memories of imagined sin
In every friend, kith and kin

We have come to celebrate here
The getting rid of every fear
Of every notion, every seed
Of any separation, caste, or creed.

This alienation, fragmentation, abomination
Of separation, exploitation, isolation
This cruelty, hysteria, absolute madness
This anger, anxiety, overflowing sadness
Disrupted ecology, wanton destruction
Diseased biology, nature's obstruction
Endangered species, environmental pollution
Holes in the ozone, defying solution
Is not knowing the spark that lights my interior
Is the same fire, glowing in every man, child, and mother superior
We have come to celebrate here
The getting rid of every fear
Of every notion, every seed
Of any separation, caste, or creed.

Feeling free, let us fly
Into the boundless, beyond the sky
For we were born to never die
To live in bliss, to never cry
To speak the truth and never lie
To share our love without a sign
To stretch our arms without a tie

This is our dance, this is our high
It's not a secret, can't you see
Why can't we all live in ecstasy

Ecstasy ... Ecstasy
Why can't we all
Live in Ecstasy.

timmy: yeah I don't think about conrad much though I hate what he's done, it's too shocking and it's still not registering so I've given up. I know I'll be mad on monday but refuse to be until the time is right.

seeingvoices: that's a good one, I love one about the falcon and the one about love too where he references a bar of soap. It's reminding me of how much I love him and also have to let go of him being gone now

alphastreet said:

Timmy84 said:

I look at it differently, of course, that guy had an angel's voice trapped inside his body. Hearing it by itself I'm like this ---->

In that case, you know more about gratitude than I do, it is something I'm working on cause I'm really having a hard time feeling it and discovering all these flaws about myself I was hiding from all these years and trying too hard to be good. Cause sometimes I would hear him since he passed and I would be mad at murray or even mad at him for leaving us though he's not to blame either it just may have been his time though I don't want to believe that though I was raised on that. I would hear the voice and just throw stones and get angry and cry again cause of being so cruel and upset and bratty, ughhh don't you wanna just shoot me now?

I'm angry at how michael was treated plain and simple. I think it was unbearable what he went through, yet he went on. Personally, I like to be hunted, i've lived the live of an outcast, I love it as much as I hate it. But Michael wasn't meant to be treated like that. Being a true outsider, I just believe that all the old world, european derived ways of thinking just need to be thrown in the toilet. The militarism, the seeking for imperfection all of it don't suit me and will not suit the earth either. what'll happen is that mankind will just pass away because of it.

alphastreet said:

timmy: yeah I don't think about conrad much though I hate what he's done, it's too shocking and it's still not registering so I've given up. I know I'll be mad on monday but refuse to be until the time is right.

seeingvoices: that's a good one, I love one about the falcon and the one about love too where he references a bar of soap. It's reminding me of how much I love him and also have to let go of him being gone now

I feel your pain, and I know that you're missing him , but you are not alone, we all do.

I just don't know what I'm going to do when I hear his voice on new album ,new songs ,it's going to be really hard.....at the end , life goes on, light up

seeingvoices12 said:

alphastreet said:

timmy: yeah I don't think about conrad much though I hate what he's done, it's too shocking and it's still not registering so I've given up. I know I'll be mad on monday but refuse to be until the time is right.

seeingvoices: that's a good one, I love one about the falcon and the one about love too where he references a bar of soap. It's reminding me of how much I love him and also have to let go of him being gone now

I feel your pain, and I know that you're missing him , but you are not alone, we all do.

I just don't know what I'm going to do when I hear his voice on new album ,new songs ,it's going to be really hard.....at the end , life goes on, light up

yeah when I heard snippets of new leaks, it felt really eerie hearing them cause the man behind the voice was no longer among us, I couldn't explain it. I just wanted to slam it off in anger, yet keep listening that was months ago. I am going to support the project, but the excitement is not the same at all and I'm not familiar with the feeling. But I know you'll be strong when the time comes, and when the next album comes , it'll be easier.

Nirvana on Michael in 1993 after the allegations. I really wish celebrities were this blunt in 2003, instead of being two-faced and commenting on how they think Micahel is semi-guilty and that he's was a lunatic. Starts at 7:10.

/\ ahhhhhh, why did you have to go there.

Along with Michael and 'Pac, Kurt is one of the musicians that I miss the most. Those three and Prince are the artists that have had the biggest impact on my lives. I've been thinking about Kurt a lot these last few days due to Frances Bean turning 18 on Wednesday. His little girl is all grown up and it just makes me so sad to think that things could have been so different.

But, I digress. This was a good clip. Kurt was always real with it, saying that nobody had any right to speculate or judge Michael based on the media hype and sensationalism around the allegations and that he didn't understand what the big deal was. I think Kurt could really relate, because he was one of the biggest stars in music at that time, after "Nevermind" had come out and blown up to a ridiculous level in 1991, even displacing "Dangerous" from the top of the album charts. Kurt was having to deal with that level of media intrusion and tabloid lies a lot, too, so I feel he had a real empathy towards what Michael was going through.

Militant said:

/\ ahhhhhh, why did you have to go there.

Along with Michael and 'Pac, Kurt is one of the musicians that I miss the most. Those three and Prince are the artists that have had the biggest impact on my lives. I've been thinking about Kurt a lot these last few days due to Frances Bean turning 18 on Wednesday. His little girl is all grown up and it just makes me so sad to think that things could have been so different.

But, I digress. This was a good clip. Kurt was always real with it, saying that nobody had any right to speculate or judge Michael based on the media hype and sensationalism around the allegations and that he didn't understand what the big deal was. I think Kurt could really relate, because he was one of the biggest stars in music at that time, after "Nevermind" had come out and blown up to a ridiculous level in 1991, even displacing "Dangerous" from the top of the album charts. Kurt was having to deal with that level of media intrusion and tabloid lies a lot, too, so I feel he had a real empathy towards what Michael was going through.

bboy87 said:

I wonder if there's deleted scenes/outtakes from Moonwalker

this one in particular makes me wonder

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It looks like the scene at the end after Katy is holding the lucky star and says "I wish he would come back" and then Michael appears on the cobblestone street. Except the background and the outfits are different. And it's daytime. LOL.

Isn't that the suit that Michael wears at the beginning when he comes out of his house and the henchmen start firing at him and the bullets are tearing through all the glass windows?

It's probably just a random photo from on the set. Who knows. It'd be AWESOME if there were some outtakes and deleted scenes though!

Militant said:

bboy87 said:

I wonder if there's deleted scenes/outtakes from Moonwalker

this one in particular makes me wonder

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It looks like the scene at the end after Katy is holding the lucky star and says "I wish he would come back" and then Michael appears on the cobblestone street. Except the background and the outfits are different. And it's daytime. LOL.

Isn't that the suit that Michael wears at the beginning when he comes out of his house and the henchmen start firing at him and the bullets are tearing through all the glass windows?

It's probably just a random photo from on the set. Who knows. It'd be AWESOME if there were some outtakes and deleted scenes though!

It's daytime, he's wearing the suit, and it's in a different location, maybe it's a scene that was the be before they were on the roof looking down on him. Parts of the film made you want to know a couple of things

-Where were the kids' parents?

-What was the whole story behind Michael's connection to the star

-Where did Michael and Katie escape to when they left Frankie Lideo's lair?

-When did Michael tell them to meet him at Club 30? Wasn't he running from the bad guys?

-Where did Plane Michael go to after it flew away?

-Why were the kids just hanging outside at the end?

-Where was Skipper the whole time?

-How did they meet Michael?

-What building did Michael come out of? What kind of job?

The Smooth Criminal short film IMO had the potential to be a full length feature

bboy87 said:

The Smooth Criminal short film IMO had the potential to be a full length feature

This.

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

The Smooth Criminal short film IMO had the potential to be a full length feature

This.

Another interesting thing was he had filmed Smooth Criminal and Bad before the album was even done

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

This.

Another interesting thing was he had filmed Smooth Criminal and Bad before the album was even done

Hah, that's interesting... who knows if he was planning films for it...

Does anyone know what footage from "This Is It" is from June 24th late evening, if any?

I remember reading in one article that night was the first night Michael saw the Thriller

spider - so does that mean the footage of the spider was from June 24th? Anyone know?

Also, does anyone know the last song Michael performed on June 24th? I've heard from

some fans it was "Heal The World."

Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Another interesting thing was he had filmed Smooth Criminal and Bad before the album was even done

Hah, that's interesting... who knows if he was planning films for it...

One thing....

What robot has PERM?!

Michael-bot that's who

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Hah, that's interesting... who knows if he was planning films for it...

One thing....

What robot has PERM?!

Michael-bot that's who

He's the only one who could get away with it too.

Vanilli said:

Does anyone know what footage from "This Is It" is from June 24th late evening, if any?

I remember reading in one article that night was the first night Michael saw the Thriller

spider - so does that mean the footage of the spider was from June 24th? Anyone know?

Also, does anyone know the last song Michael performed on June 24th? I've heard from

some fans it was "Heal The World."

A friend of mine asked Kenny Ortega during his visit to Australia what the last song Michael performed was and his reply was that it was "Earth Song".

Everyone! Check out Marlon!

Never liked Nirvana or the whole grunge movement, basically because I saw it as a major departing point where sloppiness and underachievement replaced excellence but that interview was good. If anyone knew how the media was it was them, Kurt got burned sometime later by a Vanity Fair writer himself. If I was a celeb I would never talk to the media any of them, they are all rotton sobs.

bboy87 said:

I wonder if there's deleted scenes/outtakes from Moonwalker

this one in particular makes me wonder

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It's possible it could be from the scene rehearsals

^^ I seem to recall in a comic of Moonwalker I had at the time there was a whole other part to the story about the music store and how Michael knew the kids. It wasn't a huge backstory but it did show that he had the store to help the kids out.