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Reply #630 posted 08/19/10 11:55am

NMuzakNSoul

mozfonky said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

Yeah it's a genius performance...one of his best.

I love "Elizabeth, I love you" as well. It's just different than what Mike normally did and both of these songs are heartfelt.

I taped the sammy tribute a long time ago. Always was a Sammy Davis nut and could always spot where Michael took moves and also when he made them his own. You talk about black genius that will never get the proper respect that's Sammy. Back in those days black men had to have the spiritual strength of Samson to withstand the brutal physical and mental abuse and come through like that.

Very true. I love Sammy as well. Michael really hit the nail on the head with the lyrics. The Melody is beautiful and I've learned the chords a few years ago...great song to play.

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Reply #631 posted 08/19/10 12:06pm

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Reply #632 posted 08/19/10 12:22pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

I love the song but I'm mad that things went the way it did that he couldn't even finish the video. disbelief But this is probably the best song he did with Robert.

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Reply #633 posted 08/19/10 12:29pm

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a song by song analysis of Michael's live/lipsynch performances

BAD TOUR

1987 leg

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin- Live
Things I Do For You- Live
Off The Wall- Live
Human Nature- Live
Heartbreak Hotel-Live
She's Out of My Life-Live
I Want You Back-Live
The Love You Save-Live
I'll Be There-Live
Rock With You-Live
Lovely One-Live
Band Interlude
Workin' Day And Night-Live
Beat It-Live
Billie Jean-Live
Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)-Live
Thriller-Live
I Just Can't Stop Loving You-Live
Bad-Live

1988-89 legs

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin-Live
Heartbreak Hotel-Live
Another Part of Me-Live
I Just Can't Stop Loving You-Live
She's Out of My Life-Live
I Want You Back-Live
The Love You Save-Live
I'll Be There-Live
Human Nature-Live
Smooth Criminal 70% lipsynched but completely live the first couple of shows and some afterwards
Dirty Diana- Live
Thriller- Live
Bad Groove Interlude
Workin' Day And Night- Live
Beat It- Live
Billie Jean-Live
Bad-60% lipsynched but first performances were complete live
The Way You Make Me Feel- 50% lipsynched but first performances and some afterwards were completely live
Man In The Mirror-60% lipsynched. Some performances were completely live

DANGEROUS TOUR

"Jam"- lipsynched
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" Live
"Human Nature" Live
"Smooth Criminal" Lipsynched
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett) Live
"She's out of My Life" Live
"I Want You Back" Live
"The Love You Save" Live
"I'll Be There" Live
"Thriller" Lipsynched
"Billie Jean" Live
"Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude
"Workin' Day and Night" Live
"Beat It" Live
"Someone Put Your Hand Out" Instrumental Interlude
"Will You Be There" debatable (some were live, some were lipsynched, some used a different vocal track)
"The Way You Make Me Feel" (Performed until July 15, 1992)- 60% lipsynched
"Bad" (Performed until July 15, 1992)- 70% lipsynched
"Black or White" -sometimes lipsynched, sometimes live
"We Are the World" Video Interlude
"Heal the World" lipsynched
"Man in the Mirror" 60% lipsynched

93 leg

2. "Jam" Lipsynched
3. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" Live
4. "Human Nature" Live
5. "Smooth Criminal" Lipsynched
6. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett) Live
7. "She's out of My Life" Live
8. Jackson 5 Medley: "I Want You Back" / "The Love You Save" Live
9. Jackson 5 Medley: "I'll Be There" Live
10. "Thriller" Lipsynched
11. "Billie Jean" Live
12. Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude
13. "Beat It"Live
14. "Someone Put Your Hand Out" Instrumental Interlude
15. "Will You Be There" sometimes lipsynched, sometimes live
16. "Dangerous" (Performed on the last few concerts of the tour) lipsynched
17. "Black or White" lipsynched
18. "We Are the World" Video Interlude
19. "Heal the World" lipsynched
20. "Man in the Mirror" lipsynched

Thanks again. I didn't hear any lipsyching on the victory clips i've seen. I heard rumours that he blew his voice out during the Bad tour, based on his singing in these later dvds and in the This is It movie, those were clearly untrue. I guess what I always suppossed was true, he was just to perfectionistic, no one sings perfect live, that's what makes it live.

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Reply #634 posted 08/19/10 12:32pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I love the song but I'm mad that things went the way it did that he couldn't even finish the video. disbelief But this is probably the best song he did with Robert.

Great song indeed.......In million times better than "you are not alone".......

but judging from the Pics I can tell that the video was finished....right?

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Reply #635 posted 08/19/10 12:33pm

Timmy84

mozfonky said:

bboy87 said:

a song by song analysis of Michael's live/lipsynch performances

BAD TOUR

1987 leg

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin- Live
Things I Do For You- Live
Off The Wall- Live
Human Nature- Live
Heartbreak Hotel-Live
She's Out of My Life-Live
I Want You Back-Live
The Love You Save-Live
I'll Be There-Live
Rock With You-Live
Lovely One-Live
Band Interlude
Workin' Day And Night-Live
Beat It-Live
Billie Jean-Live
Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)-Live
Thriller-Live
I Just Can't Stop Loving You-Live
Bad-Live

1988-89 legs

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin-Live
Heartbreak Hotel-Live
Another Part of Me-Live
I Just Can't Stop Loving You-Live
She's Out of My Life-Live
I Want You Back-Live
The Love You Save-Live
I'll Be There-Live
Human Nature-Live
Smooth Criminal 70% lipsynched but completely live the first couple of shows and some afterwards
Dirty Diana- Live
Thriller- Live
Bad Groove Interlude
Workin' Day And Night- Live
Beat It- Live
Billie Jean-Live
Bad-60% lipsynched but first performances were complete live
The Way You Make Me Feel- 50% lipsynched but first performances and some afterwards were completely live
Man In The Mirror-60% lipsynched. Some performances were completely live

DANGEROUS TOUR

"Jam"- lipsynched
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" Live
"Human Nature" Live
"Smooth Criminal" Lipsynched
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett) Live
"She's out of My Life" Live
"I Want You Back" Live
"The Love You Save" Live
"I'll Be There" Live
"Thriller" Lipsynched
"Billie Jean" Live
"Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude
"Workin' Day and Night" Live
"Beat It" Live
"Someone Put Your Hand Out" Instrumental Interlude
"Will You Be There" debatable (some were live, some were lipsynched, some used a different vocal track)
"The Way You Make Me Feel" (Performed until July 15, 1992)- 60% lipsynched
"Bad" (Performed until July 15, 1992)- 70% lipsynched
"Black or White" -sometimes lipsynched, sometimes live
"We Are the World" Video Interlude
"Heal the World" lipsynched
"Man in the Mirror" 60% lipsynched

93 leg

2. "Jam" Lipsynched
3. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" Live
4. "Human Nature" Live
5. "Smooth Criminal" Lipsynched
6. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett) Live
7. "She's out of My Life" Live
8. Jackson 5 Medley: "I Want You Back" / "The Love You Save" Live
9. Jackson 5 Medley: "I'll Be There" Live
10. "Thriller" Lipsynched
11. "Billie Jean" Live
12. Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude
13. "Beat It"Live
14. "Someone Put Your Hand Out" Instrumental Interlude
15. "Will You Be There" sometimes lipsynched, sometimes live
16. "Dangerous" (Performed on the last few concerts of the tour) lipsynched
17. "Black or White" lipsynched
18. "We Are the World" Video Interlude
19. "Heal the World" lipsynched
20. "Man in the Mirror" lipsynched

Thanks again. I didn't hear any lipsyching on the victory clips i've seen. I heard rumours that he blew his voice out during the Bad tour, based on his singing in these later dvds and in the This is It movie, those were clearly untrue. I guess what I always suppossed was true, he was just to perfectionistic, no one sings perfect live, that's what makes it live.

I think singing and dancing at the same time is hard to do. MJ had always used dancing as part of his stage persona going back to the J5 days but the focus was more on singing and careful choreography (thanks to the Motown machine). Afterwards, MJ slowly started to use more dancing into his act. By the time of Dangerous, the dancing had become THE act but he was still capable of singing great...and he did. Him lipsynching didn't really undermine what he was doing. Looking back I can see how singing and dancing can be difficult when you put 150% into what you do. He sounded tired during the HIStory tour in particular and he was growing tired of touring at that point in his life.

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Reply #636 posted 08/19/10 3:00pm

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Timmy84 said:

mozfonky said:

Thanks again. I didn't hear any lipsyching on the victory clips i've seen. I heard rumours that he blew his voice out during the Bad tour, based on his singing in these later dvds and in the This is It movie, those were clearly untrue. I guess what I always suppossed was true, he was just to perfectionistic, no one sings perfect live, that's what makes it live.

I think singing and dancing at the same time is hard to do. MJ had always used dancing as part of his stage persona going back to the J5 days but the focus was more on singing and careful choreography (thanks to the Motown machine). Afterwards, MJ slowly started to use more dancing into his act. By the time of Dangerous, the dancing had become THE act but he was still capable of singing great...and he did. Him lipsynching didn't really undermine what he was doing. Looking back I can see how singing and dancing can be difficult when you put 150% into what you do. He sounded tired during the HIStory tour in particular and he was growing tired of touring at that point in his life.

watch the forbidden name come in here to "add" to the discussion....lol

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Reply #637 posted 08/19/10 3:12pm

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mozfonky said:

bboy87 said:

a song by song analysis of Michael's live/lipsynch performances

BAD TOUR

1987 leg

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin- Live
Things I Do For You- Live
Off The Wall- Live
Human Nature- Live
Heartbreak Hotel-Live
She's Out of My Life-Live
I Want You Back-Live
The Love You Save-Live
I'll Be There-Live
Rock With You-Live
Lovely One-Live
Band Interlude
Workin' Day And Night-Live
Beat It-Live
Billie Jean-Live
Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)-Live
Thriller-Live
I Just Can't Stop Loving You-Live
Bad-Live

1988-89 legs

Wanna Be Startin' Somethin-Live
Heartbreak Hotel-Live
Another Part of Me-Live
I Just Can't Stop Loving You-Live
She's Out of My Life-Live
I Want You Back-Live
The Love You Save-Live
I'll Be There-Live
Human Nature-Live
Smooth Criminal 70% lipsynched but completely live the first couple of shows and some afterwards
Dirty Diana- Live
Thriller- Live
Bad Groove Interlude
Workin' Day And Night- Live
Beat It- Live
Billie Jean-Live
Bad-60% lipsynched but first performances were complete live
The Way You Make Me Feel- 50% lipsynched but first performances and some afterwards were completely live
Man In The Mirror-60% lipsynched. Some performances were completely live

DANGEROUS TOUR

"Jam"- lipsynched
"Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" Live
"Human Nature" Live
"Smooth Criminal" Lipsynched
"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett) Live
"She's out of My Life" Live
"I Want You Back" Live
"The Love You Save" Live
"I'll Be There" Live
"Thriller" Lipsynched
"Billie Jean" Live
"Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude
"Workin' Day and Night" Live
"Beat It" Live
"Someone Put Your Hand Out" Instrumental Interlude
"Will You Be There" debatable (some were live, some were lipsynched, some used a different vocal track)
"The Way You Make Me Feel" (Performed until July 15, 1992)- 60% lipsynched
"Bad" (Performed until July 15, 1992)- 70% lipsynched
"Black or White" -sometimes lipsynched, sometimes live
"We Are the World" Video Interlude
"Heal the World" lipsynched
"Man in the Mirror" 60% lipsynched

93 leg

2. "Jam" Lipsynched
3. "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" Live
4. "Human Nature" Live
5. "Smooth Criminal" Lipsynched
6. "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" (duet with Siedah Garrett) Live
7. "She's out of My Life" Live
8. Jackson 5 Medley: "I Want You Back" / "The Love You Save" Live
9. Jackson 5 Medley: "I'll Be There" Live
10. "Thriller" Lipsynched
11. "Billie Jean" Live
12. Black or White "Panther" Video Interlude
13. "Beat It"Live
14. "Someone Put Your Hand Out" Instrumental Interlude
15. "Will You Be There" sometimes lipsynched, sometimes live
16. "Dangerous" (Performed on the last few concerts of the tour) lipsynched
17. "Black or White" lipsynched
18. "We Are the World" Video Interlude
19. "Heal the World" lipsynched
20. "Man in the Mirror" lipsynched

Thanks again. I didn't hear any lipsyching on the victory clips i've seen. I heard rumours that he blew his voice out during the Bad tour, based on his singing in these later dvds and in the This is It movie, those were clearly untrue. I guess what I always suppossed was true, he was just to perfectionistic, no one sings perfect live, that's what makes it live.

Every tour pre Bad was completely live

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Reply #638 posted 08/19/10 3:14pm

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bboy87 said:

The Dangerous Tour is my third favorite tour (Bad being first and Victory being second), but his dancing was more on point during Dangerous.

One interesting thing about the Bucharest show is that it was heavily edited. Some of the shots are from London, Barcelona, Madrid and other places

BBC and HBO got different edits

All the money he got from the tour was given to charity plus he paid for hospitals and orphanages being restructured

Yeah, I think I got the BBC one on VHS, and then the DVD is HBO right?

The DVD version is the HBO version but with more edits. I still haven't seen the full BBC version, just Jam, Billie Jean, and Black Or White

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Reply #639 posted 08/19/10 3:21pm

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bboy87 said:

NMuzakNSoul said:

Yeah, I think I got the BBC one on VHS, and then the DVD is HBO right?

The DVD version is the HBO version but with more edits. I still haven't seen the full BBC version, just Jam, Billie Jean, and Black Or White

they aired it last year the BBC one...my VHS tape is kinda shitty now lol

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Reply #640 posted 08/19/10 3:43pm

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bboy87 said:

The DVD version is the HBO version but with more edits. I still haven't seen the full BBC version, just Jam, Billie Jean, and Black Or White

they aired it last year the BBC one...my VHS tape is kinda shitty now lol

I heard the BBC broadcast from last year wasn't the same version from 1992

it sucks that BBC America is absolutely horrible mad

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Reply #641 posted 08/19/10 4:30pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I love the song but I'm mad that things went the way it did that he couldn't even finish the video. disbelief But this is probably the best song he did with Robert.

It's too bad he hadn't filmed anything since "You Rock My World". I had already been missing MJ before he passed.

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Reply #642 posted 08/19/10 7:06pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

I love the song but I'm mad that things went the way it did that he couldn't even finish the video. disbelief But this is probably the best song he did with Robert.

Great song indeed.......In million times better than "you are not alone".......

but judging from the Pics I can tell that the video was finished....right?

[Edited 8/19/10 12:32pm]

They probably have enough footage to make a video, but according to Karen Faye, it ended abruptly and is "unfinished" I'm guessing he probably wanted to do other shots in different settings rather than all of them in an empty restaurant. It's so unfortunate how things didn't pan out. For Invincible, Mike had an idea for a short film for the song Unbreakable, but Sony got in the way. And for this video, other shit got in the way sad

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Reply #643 posted 08/19/10 7:25pm

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^^ I'm glad they finished all the dome project work for O2 after he passed and we got to see it in This Is It.

There was a bittersweet sense of closure being able to see that.

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Reply #644 posted 08/19/10 7:33pm

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One More Chance wasn't a song that grabbed me, and in fact was quite disappointing. It felt like he was treading over old ground with a weak song and vocal delivery that boarded on being a characeture of his style with all the "oh nos" and "why, why why". The song didn't offer anything fresh or exciting and made me wonder why Michael would release it on the No1s album with a strong possibility it wouldn't make it to number 1.

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Reply #645 posted 08/19/10 7:48pm

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Judge dismisses promoters' lawsuit against Jackson

NEW YORK — A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit by a concert promoter against the late Michael Jackson over a failed reunion concert.

U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. granted a motion by lawyers for Jackson's estate to dismiss the case, citing a lack of evidence that the late King of Pop or his family were under a binding agreement to perform at a reunion concert.

AllGood Entertainment Inc., a company started in Morristown, N.J., sued Jackson for $40 million on June 10, 2009, roughly two weeks before the singer's death in Los Angeles at age 50. It claimed Jackson and his then-manager broke a contract for a Jackson reunion show.

AllGood later filed a creditor's claim with Jackson's estate, claiming the potential value of the lawsuit was at least $300 million.

Baer determined that there was a letter of intent between Jackson's then-manager, Frank DiLeo, and AllGood, but never an enforceable contract. He noted that neither Jackson nor any other members of the family who were to be involved in the show ever signed a contract.

Attorneys for Jackson's estate and DiLeo contended that if there was a breach in the contract, AllGood broke the agreement first because it did not issue a payment to Jackson before a required deadline. Baer wrote that there was no evidence that AllGood suffered substantial economic damage because of the failed concert.

"This case never had any merit and the claim was frivolous from day one," Jackson estate attorney Howard Weitzman said in a statement. "Michael Jackson never agreed to participate in a concert promoted by AllGood as the judge clearly found in his opinion."

An after-hours phone message left for AllGood's attorney, Ira Meyerowitz, was not immediately returned.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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Reply #646 posted 08/19/10 8:26pm

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Judge dismisses promoters' lawsuit against Jackson

NEW YORK — A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit by a concert promoter against the late Michael Jackson over a failed reunion concert.

U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. granted a motion by lawyers for Jackson's estate to dismiss the case, citing a lack of evidence that the late King of Pop or his family were under a binding agreement to perform at a reunion concert.

AllGood Entertainment Inc., a company started in Morristown, N.J., sued Jackson for $40 million on June 10, 2009, roughly two weeks before the singer's death in Los Angeles at age 50. It claimed Jackson and his then-manager broke a contract for a Jackson reunion show.

AllGood later filed a creditor's claim with Jackson's estate, claiming the potential value of the lawsuit was at least $300 million.

Baer determined that there was a letter of intent between Jackson's then-manager, Frank DiLeo, and AllGood, but never an enforceable contract. He noted that neither Jackson nor any other members of the family who were to be involved in the show ever signed a contract.

Attorneys for Jackson's estate and DiLeo contended that if there was a breach in the contract, AllGood broke the agreement first because it did not issue a payment to Jackson before a required deadline. Baer wrote that there was no evidence that AllGood suffered substantial economic damage because of the failed concert.

"This case never had any merit and the claim was frivolous from day one," Jackson estate attorney Howard Weitzman said in a statement. "Michael Jackson never agreed to participate in a concert promoted by AllGood as the judge clearly found in his opinion."

An after-hours phone message left for AllGood's attorney, Ira Meyerowitz, was not immediately returned.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

The lawsuit was so ridiculous lol

When Michael announced the o2 shows, he recieved about 5 lawsuits that following week lol

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Reply #647 posted 08/19/10 8:36pm

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Judge dismisses promoters' lawsuit against Jackson

NEW YORK — A federal judge on Thursday dismissed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit by a concert promoter against the late Michael Jackson over a failed reunion concert.

U.S. District Judge Harold Baer Jr. granted a motion by lawyers for Jackson's estate to dismiss the case, citing a lack of evidence that the late King of Pop or his family were under a binding agreement to perform at a reunion concert.

AllGood Entertainment Inc., a company started in Morristown, N.J., sued Jackson for $40 million on June 10, 2009, roughly two weeks before the singer's death in Los Angeles at age 50. It claimed Jackson and his then-manager broke a contract for a Jackson reunion show.

AllGood later filed a creditor's claim with Jackson's estate, claiming the potential value of the lawsuit was at least $300 million.

Baer determined that there was a letter of intent between Jackson's then-manager, Frank DiLeo, and AllGood, but never an enforceable contract. He noted that neither Jackson nor any other members of the family who were to be involved in the show ever signed a contract.

Attorneys for Jackson's estate and DiLeo contended that if there was a breach in the contract, AllGood broke the agreement first because it did not issue a payment to Jackson before a required deadline. Baer wrote that there was no evidence that AllGood suffered substantial economic damage because of the failed concert.

"This case never had any merit and the claim was frivolous from day one," Jackson estate attorney Howard Weitzman said in a statement. "Michael Jackson never agreed to participate in a concert promoted by AllGood as the judge clearly found in his opinion."

An after-hours phone message left for AllGood's attorney, Ira Meyerowitz, was not immediately returned.

Copyright © 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

hah!

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Good News: I just talked with Natina (the rapper from the group Blaque) and she told me that they did a record with Michael Jackson a few years back called "Deeper".

Bad News Mathew Knowles bought the rights to the album, meaning most likely we don't have a chance in hearing it.

UPDATE: She mentioned how Missy dropped the ball when it came to the album. She also mentioned how some studio sessions would only have Blaque, Missy, Bow Wow, Pharrell and Queen Latifah in there, but NO ONE was recording. Saying that they were missing out on money and collaborations

[Edited 8/19/10 23:22pm]

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Reply #649 posted 08/20/10 12:16am

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Timmy84 said:

mozfonky said:

Thanks again. I didn't hear any lipsyching on the victory clips i've seen. I heard rumours that he blew his voice out during the Bad tour, based on his singing in these later dvds and in the This is It movie, those were clearly untrue. I guess what I always suppossed was true, he was just to perfectionistic, no one sings perfect live, that's what makes it live.

I think singing and dancing at the same time is hard to do. MJ had always used dancing as part of his stage persona going back to the J5 days but the focus was more on singing and careful choreography (thanks to the Motown machine). Afterwards, MJ slowly started to use more dancing into his act. By the time of Dangerous, the dancing had become THE act but he was still capable of singing great...and he did. Him lipsynching didn't really undermine what he was doing. Looking back I can see how singing and dancing can be difficult when you put 150% into what you do. He sounded tired during the HIStory tour in particular and he was growing tired of touring at that point in his life.

yes it is but it is what the pay is for. I know it's all very gruelling and that he'd been at it for many years. I don't hold it against him, stating that he really didn't need to do it. He was just too hard on himself.

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Reply #650 posted 08/20/10 12:22am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Good News: I just talked with Natina (the rapper from the group Blaque) and she told me that they did a record with Michael Jackson a few years back called "Deeper".

Bad News Mathew Knowles bought the rights to the album, meaning most likely we don't have a chance in hearing it.

UPDATE: She mentioned how Missy dropped the ball when it came to the album. She also mentioned how some studio sessions would only have Blaque, Missy, Bow Wow, Pharrell and Queen Latifah in there, but NO ONE was recording. Saying that they were missing out on money and collaborations

[Edited 8/19/10 23:22pm]

Unless someone leaks it....... hint hint lol

The estate could get their hands on it. If Michael was involved in any way, they could get it. You see what they did with Will.I.Am apparently....

"Fuck yo rights bitch!" lol

oh could you ask her what year they recorded it and what kind of track it was? This could be a great inclusion to the final editon of "For The Record"

[Edited 8/20/10 0:23am]

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Reply #651 posted 08/20/10 12:33am

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bboy87 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Good News: I just talked with Natina (the rapper from the group Blaque) and she told me that they did a record with Michael Jackson a few years back called "Deeper".

Bad News Mathew Knowles bought the rights to the album, meaning most likely we don't have a chance in hearing it.

UPDATE: She mentioned how Missy dropped the ball when it came to the album. She also mentioned how some studio sessions would only have Blaque, Missy, Bow Wow, Pharrell and Queen Latifah in there, but NO ONE was recording. Saying that they were missing out on money and collaborations

[Edited 8/19/10 23:22pm]

Unless someone leaks it....... hint hint lol

The estate could get their hands on it. If Michael was involved in any way, they could get it. You see what they did with Will.I.Am apparently....

"Fuck yo rights bitch!" lol

oh could you ask her what year they recorded it and what kind of track it was? This could be a great inclusion to the final editon of "For The Record"

[Edited 8/20/10 0:23am]

She said that Mathew, Darkchild and Missy brought the rights to the album (entitled Torch), so seeing that Rodney has his hands on the material, it's possible he'll do something with the record. Torch was recorded from 2003-2004. Next time I talk to her, I'll ask her about the background of the record with MJ

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Reply #652 posted 08/20/10 9:19am

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ViintageJunkiie said:

bboy87 said:

Unless someone leaks it....... hint hint lol

The estate could get their hands on it. If Michael was involved in any way, they could get it. You see what they did with Will.I.Am apparently....

"Fuck yo rights bitch!" lol

oh could you ask her what year they recorded it and what kind of track it was? This could be a great inclusion to the final editon of "For The Record"

[Edited 8/20/10 0:23am]

She said that Mathew, Darkchild and Missy brought the rights to the album (entitled Torch), so seeing that Rodney has his hands on the material, it's possible he'll do something with the record. Torch was recorded from 2003-2004. Next time I talk to her, I'll ask her about the background of the record with MJ

So wait wait wait? This "Torch" album was a new MJ album that Rodney produced? What is going on? I'm lost.

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Reply #653 posted 08/20/10 9:36am

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bboy87 said:

It would've been a cool idea to do exclusive remixes to the songs or include some unreleased tracks to the video game

I'd love to see a Jackson 5 inspired game where you go from 1969 to 1984, kinda like The Beatles' Rock Band

Year 1969-

I Want You Back

Who's Lovin' You

Zip A Dee Doo Dah/There Was A Time

Year 1970-

The Love You Save

ABC

Goin' Back To Indiana

Darling Dear

Year 1971-

Never Can Say Goodbye

The Wall

It's Great To Be Here

Feelin' Alright

Year 1972-

I Wanna Be Where You Are (Michael Jackson)

Lookin' Through The Windows

Don't Let Your Baby Catch You

That's How Love Goes (Jermaine Jackson)

Year 1973-

Corner Of The Sky

You're In Good Hands (Jermaine Jackson)

A Million To One (Jermaine Jackson)

Get It Together

Hum Along With Dance

Love Don't Wanna Leave (Jackie Jackson)

Is It Him Or Me (Jackie Jackson)

Years 1974-1975-

Dancing Machine

I Am Love

The Life Of The Party

Take Me Back (Michael Jackson)

Forever Came Today

Honey Love

Year 1976-

Let's Be Young Tonight (Jermaine Jackson)

Bass Odyssey (Jermaine Jackson)

Enjoy Yourself

Show You The Way To Go

Keep On Dancing

Good Times

Year 1977-

Goin' Places

Music's Takin' Over

Feel The Fire (Jermaine Jackson)

You Need To Be Loved (Jermaine Jackson)

Year 1978-

How Can I Be Sure (Randy Jackson)

The Force (Jermaine Jackson)

Castles Of Sand (Jermaine Jackson)

Blame It On The Boogie

Shake Your Body

All Night Dancin'

Year 1979-

Don't Stop Til You Get Enough (Michael Jackson)

Workin' Day And Night (Michael Jackson)

Off The Wall (Michael Jackson)

Get On The Floor (Michael Jackson)

Let's Get Serious (Jermaine Jackson)

Burnin' Hot (Jermaine Jackson)

Years 1980-1981-

Heartbreak Hotel

Can You Feel It

You Like Me Don't You (Jermaine Jackson)

I'm Just Too Shy (Jermaine Jackson)

Years 1982-1983-

Let Me Tickle Your Fancy (Jermaine Jackson)

I Like Your Style (Jermaine Jackson)

Billie Jean (Michael Jackson)

Beat It (Michael Jackson)

PYT (Michael Jackson)

Year 1984-

Sweetest Sweetest (Jermaine Jackson)

Dynamite (Jermaine Jackson)

Torture

Body

The Hurt

State Of Shock

Tell Me I'm Not Dreamin' (Jermaine and Michael Jackson)

I guess I should cut the songlist down lol

[Edited 8/18/10 20:12pm]

WOW, 1969 takes me back a long ways as a Michael admirer.

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Reply #654 posted 08/20/10 10:08am

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Vanilli said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

She said that Mathew, Darkchild and Missy brought the rights to the album (entitled Torch), so seeing that Rodney has his hands on the material, it's possible he'll do something with the record. Torch was recorded from 2003-2004. Next time I talk to her, I'll ask her about the background of the record with MJ

So wait wait wait? This "Torch" album was a new MJ album that Rodney produced? What is going on? I'm lost.

lol no.

I was having a discussion with Natina (the rapper from the group Blaque), and I was asking her about the show they (the group) were working on and she told me it was some shadiness going on with it and that they're working it out. I asked her about Blaque's 2004 shelved album "Torch". She said that she didn't really care about the album, but the only song she cared about is a record they did with Michael called "Deeper". Mathew Knowles, Darkchild and Missy bought the rights Blaque's album, so most likely we wont see a release. BUT, seeing that Darkchild had worked with MJ in the past, it's likely that he has the song MJ recorded with Blaque.

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Reply #655 posted 08/20/10 11:36am

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seeingvoices12 said:

This is a great song. I bet this would have been a big hit if it were released now. Mainstream music is shitty these days, and this was would have been like the diamond amongst the trash pile lol
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Reply #656 posted 08/20/10 12:21pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

Vanilli said:

So wait wait wait? This "Torch" album was a new MJ album that Rodney produced? What is going on? I'm lost.

lol no.

I was having a discussion with Natina (the rapper from the group Blaque), and I was asking her about the show they (the group) were working on and she told me it was some shadiness going on with it and that they're working it out. I asked her about Blaque's 2004 shelved album "Torch". She said that she didn't really care about the album, but the only song she cared about is a record they did with Michael called "Deeper". Mathew Knowles, Darkchild and Missy bought the rights Blaque's album, so most likely we wont see a release. BUT, seeing that Darkchild had worked with MJ in the past, it's likely that he has the song MJ recorded with Blaque.

Is it a MJ song or MJ was featured in the track?

MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
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Reply #657 posted 08/20/10 12:24pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

This is a great song. I bet this would have been a big hit if it were released now. Mainstream music is shitty these days, and this was would have been like the diamond amongst the trash pile lol

I agree , great song.....

MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
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1958
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Reply #658 posted 08/20/10 1:00pm

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Reply #659 posted 08/20/10 1:06pm

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ViintageJunkiie said:

lol no.

I was having a discussion with Natina (the rapper from the group Blaque), and I was asking her about the show they (the group) were working on and she told me it was some shadiness going on with it and that they're working it out. I asked her about Blaque's 2004 shelved album "Torch". She said that she didn't really care about the album, but the only song she cared about is a record they did with Michael called "Deeper". Mathew Knowles, Darkchild and Missy bought the rights Blaque's album, so most likely we wont see a release. BUT, seeing that Darkchild had worked with MJ in the past, it's likely that he has the song MJ recorded with Blaque.

Is it a MJ song or MJ was featured in the track?

It's a Blaque record featuring MJ

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