mozfonky said:

thanks man

You're welcome.

You too @ Alpha, you're welcome lol

Timmy84 said:

mozfonky said:

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He wouldn´t let Mike say anything. What an interview with the Jacksons.

Timmy84 said:

mozfonky said:

thanks man

You're welcome.

You too @ Alpha, you're welcome lol

fortunately i noticed what my browser did to mess up the youtube thing. so from now on i can post clips again too. lol.tim youre the youtube link fixer.

Seeing as we are discussing HiStory - here is one of my fave songs of that album with a clip that has some of their fiercest dancing MJ ever did.

I think 2bad has the best mj dancing in a music video to date, that choreography is fierce and I was pleasantly shocked when I got my hands on Ghosts a year before it aired in North America.

alphastreet said:

I think 2bad has the best mj dancing in a music video to date, that choreography is fierce and I was pleasantly shocked when I got my hands on Ghosts a year before it aired in North America.

It's nice seeing MJ doing some of these moves in THIS IS IT during threatened and also in parts of the bonus features. I wonder if there was more of this routine that was going to be included.

yeah, the drill was nice. I still haven't watched the blu ray cause I don't have a player though I do own it.

NMuzakNSoul said:

Timmy84 said:

You're welcome.

You too @ Alpha, you're welcome lol

fortunately i noticed what my browser did to mess up the youtube thing. so from now on i can post clips again too. lol.tim youre the youtube link fixer.

Hahaha thanks.

Swa said:

Seeing as we are discussing HiStory - here is one of my fave songs of that album with a clip that has some of their fiercest dancing MJ ever did.

That was one of the greatest MJ moments caught on tape.

dirtyman2005 said:

this guy sounds eerily like MJ, its quite creepy.

Thanks for posting Dirtyman. He wrote a song called "This Is It" about Michael's passing. I think you can find it on YouTube - and dannnng. It is weird singing someone who sounds SO much like Michael singing his songs.

Off all people, I wish this cat would get a record deal. I'd rather listen to him over

almost anything in iTunes top ten. So what if he sounds like MJ? We can never have

enough people with voices like/inspired by Michael IMO, now that the man himself is gone.

And is that him? If so, he has that popstar look. Kinda looks like a blend of Prince

and Dangerous era Mike.

Does anyone have a good quality pic of MJ from the "2300 Jackson St" video filming?

babybugz said:

seeingvoices12 said:

You need to go to the doctor and find out why your eyes keep rolling like that . it's not healthy

That is so funny!

alphastreet said:

cause of being angry with him sometimes he doesn't deserve this venom from me, I know I don't mean it, it's just how I'm dealing cause I'm so hurt from being hurt and wish I could run from the grief. The real person I'm mad with is no one but myself for getting too attached in the first place, though I understand why he became an addiction to some degree.

One this that is for sure Alpha is that you are not alone.

I have never met so many people that feel so deeply the loss of Michael. It is going to take awhile but in time you will be ok.

Militant said:

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dag said:

Militant said:

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oh michael i miss u so much ...so gorgeous

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bboy87 said:

One of my favorite current artists, Dam Funk said his biggest pet peeve was the comparison between Michael and Prince because Michael was more of an entertainer chasing hits (along with him saying he never plays Michael's music during his DJ nights)

This may be the stan in me talking, but, Michael didn't chase hits, he just made them His music fit on radio and clubs of that time, but it also had it's own mark where it can be played years after. Even the first part of Dangerous heavily relying on the New Jack Swing sound, still felt different. It had that "Jackson Sound" as I like to call it. He would take a popular sound and do his own twist. Similar to Stevie in that respect that they could both take something new or current and twist it and make it theirs. The only time I feel Michael may have been "chasing" hits was Invincible, but even with that album, I can only think of maybe 6 songs that would have actually fit on the radio (Butterflies, Heaven Can Wait, Whatever Happens, You Rock My World, Invincible, Unbreakable)

That's not the stan in you talking, it's the wretched fanboy, in himself, that's stopping him from thinking properly and just appreciating music for what it is, rather than the super subjective values that he gives it. In the end, it is all art. There is not one that is better or worse. Art, as well anything else, only ever means anything if you give it meaning. Interpretation of the art is not a reflection on the artist, but rather the interpreter. This is why art is constantly defined as being subjective rather than objective. In reality, it's just music, whether it be from Prince, Michael, Mozart, The Beatles, BrokenCYDE, and etc. What it means to you, though is something completely personal. The fact that he doesn't respect Michael's art and as a musician has nothing to do with Michael and EVERYTHING to do with him. You make/create music, you are a musician. All this, "Well unless you fit my definition of what a musician is..." is irrelevant.

Though, ITA with your analysis of his work. I always thought that while he was influenced by what was popular at the time, including Off The Wall, what made his work stick out was that he was able to put his own spin on it and make it his, just like Stevie. Sometimes when I listen to Stevie and many other older r&b acts I can hear how Michael took from them and made it his own. It makes me realize just how much he studied those who came before him. His dedication and tenacity is very admirable as an artist.

bboy87 said:

and I definitely agree with you on the race issue. He never denied who he was and where he came from. In fact, he was more partial to his heritage. During Oprah's interview in 1993, she kept saying it was his first interview in 14 years and it makes you say what? because he had just done a huge interview with Ebony and Jet barely a year before In fact he had done several interviews with Ebony and Jet in those 14 years. He never strayed away from R&B either, always helped out black charities, was a huge supporter of BET (before and after the fuckery ) Ebony, Jet, and many black organizations

ITA also. Does the pigmentation in your skin really should define who you are and what you want to be? Shouldn't it be your actions? This is also why I can appreciate many of the things that MJ has done. I really, ever, remember him rubbing his deeds in everyone's faces and the press sure as hell wasn't going to. While it is important to call out people's attentions to the issues at hand, I can't stand it when people do it for what seems to be akin to attention whoring. For example, I don't really care that you adopted your 10th child from China. I really don't. Do it because it's something that you, sincerely, want to do rather than b/c you want everyone to commend you for doing something like that.

About the Ebony & Jet thing, I was reading one of their commemoration specials where they talked about how comfortable he was with them and how he treated them differently than from when he was with the MSM. He barely gave the MSM a bone and I don't think that they liked that too much so it gave a lot of room to speculation. At the same time, I think, the fact that the he did that will contribute to his legacy, greatly. Michael Jackson can be whomever you want him to be. He can represent whatever you want him to, because it's more of a reflection of you, as a person, rather than a true reflection of him, as a human.

bboy87 said:

Katt Williams' commentary from a couple of years ago still irks me for those reasons you mentioned and I just stated

=/ I always wondered how he felt about the fact that the man is now gone? Did he bother to educate himself or did he not even bother? Is he even with us, mentally, right now?

EmeraldSkies said:

ali23 said:

Can anyone guess who this little kids is?

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Holly Robinson Peete,and Michael

Yup!

Unholyalliance said:

bboy87 said:

Katt Williams' commentary from a couple of years ago still irks me for those reasons you mentioned and I just stated

=/ I always wondered how he felt about the fact that the man is now gone? Did he bother to educate himself or did he not even bother? Is he even with us, mentally, right now?

I doubt it.

dirtyman2005 said:

this guy sounds eerily like MJ, its quite creepy.

I need photos of this man, NOW.

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mozfonky said:

angel345 said:

Well, to be more precise, I meant that the material nowadays is not as classic and edgy, but these comedians nowadays are making more money than back in the day. It's the same with the music industry. I've mentioned the money part. I threw that in. Also, I saw the struggles that Richard Pryor went through with hollywood. He paved the way for today's comedians, and they're inspired by him. BTW, didn't Paul Mooney write material for Richard Pryor as well?

Mooney did and has a great bio out now about his life. I was shocked to hell when Richards' bodyguard told me Mooney raped his own son. Just came out of nowhere. I only asked "does paul take too much credit?" He obviously had some major beef going on with him. Still don't know what to make of that. Mooney always insists that Rich was the best and even got up in Spike Lee's face for having the nerve of naming a film "Kings Of Comedy".

@ the bolded statement.

dag said:

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I saw this on GMA this morning. I'm gonna be in LA next week actually to see Captain Eo (relivng my youth since mom and dad refused to take me back to Disney World when it was first released) and I'll probably head over to the museum. I went to the London exhibit too. I got to touch things and took ingocnito pics with my camera. It was so awesome! I didn't wanna leave.

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Swa said:

Seeing as we are discussing HiStory - here is one of my fave songs of that album with a clip that has some of their fiercest dancing MJ ever did.

It took me a minute to get into Ghosts. I can appreciate it now, the message he was trying to get across, but for a while it made me uncomfortable. Probably becuse he was making fun of himself in a way, trying to make a point that he felt folks were judging him and treating him unfairly. It always seemed to be a theme for him, trying to help people understand why he was the way he was.

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I just bought the Live in Bucharest dvd, pretty good stuff. People say he only lipsynched, not true. He lip synchs on several songs but is live on some too. The dancing is better than ever with more variety. Well, I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but what I've seen just makes me feel bad for being a neglectful fan, as I've stated several times before. I read that 125million went to charity from this tour, my god, what more would the man have had to do? Be nailed to a damned cross?

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mozfonky said:

I just bought the Live in Bucharest dvd, pretty good stuff. People say he only lipsynched, not true. He lip synchs on several songs but is live on some too. The dancing is better than ever with more variety. Well, I haven't watched the whole thing yet, but what I've seen just makes me feel bad for being a neglectful fan, as I've stated several times before. I read that 125million went to charity from this tour, my god, what more would the man have had to do? Be nailed to a damned cross?

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The Dangerous Tour is my third favorite tour (Bad being first and Victory being second), but his dancing was more on point during Dangerous.

One interesting thing about the Bucharest show is that it was heavily edited. Some of the shots are from London, Barcelona, Madrid and other places

BBC and HBO got different edits

All the money he got from the tour was given to charity plus he paid for hospitals and orphanages being restructured

bboy87 said:

All the money he got from the tour was given to charity plus he paid for hospitals and orphanages being restructured

I know he donated all the earnings from the Victory Tour but was unaware we donated all the money from the Dangerous Tour too. I would have though a percentage of earnings - which still would have been in the millions, but all??? Wow.