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Rock Hill doc recalls saving Jackson in '95
"If you enter this world knowing you are loved and you leave this world knowing the same, then everything that happens in between can be dealt with" - Michael Jackson | |
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LOL! Its a sweet song for a 16 year old, not a grown man.
I actually like the demo of TGIM better than the version that ended up on the album. I know, I'm strange. I've just never been a fan of Paul's voice. Prince esta muerto...
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I love the way his body moves.. he's so lanky but comfortable in it, it's really cute.
And Siedah = a million times better than Sheryl Crow. Prince esta muerto...
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I REALLY ENJOYED THIS! Especially "Human Nature" and "Beat It"
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I like that Bad outfit from Dangerous | |
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I absolutely love this song....been ages since I heard it...Freddie and Michael...just lovely! | |
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I like this song too | |
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ITA. When I first listened to it never struck me as really radio friendly pop. In fact, it never really struck me as 'pop.' It felt like raw emotions to me. Some people don't really like it and I'm not mad at them for that. Though, one of the awesome things about the album is that while others, most notably rappers, are dissing their fellow artists, Michael was dissing a United States District Attorney. One who just tried to put him in jail. I have to give him props for that one. That took some serious balls, even though the man went after him, again, a little less than a decade later.
All this talk about HIStory reminded me of this video I came across one day: http://www.tv.com/video/1...n-of-music
It's a video of Priya David, from CBS, speaking with Vibe Magazine Editor in Chief Danyel Smith about Michael Jackson's influence in music and the African-American community. Towards the last two minutes of the video the interviewer asks the editor what does she think MJ's stance on race was. So the woman answers to the effect that she believed he was proud of who he was. Then when presented with the question of why she believes so, the editor answers something like, "Um...I like to believe that he did. I can feel it inside of me."
Ok, so the editor never called out the interviewer on all of the race questions, but the answer that the editor gave in the last 2 minutes were pretty rageworthy in itself. For example, when I look at his art I can see him referencing black history pretty frequently in the 90s, especially in HIStory. Hell, didn't MJ go back to r&b in Invincible? Maybe she didn't bother to listen to these albums, but I would think that you would want to educate yourself a bit before you decide to go on national tv to be interviewed. Even before HIStory there was Michael's use of the black panther imagery in Black or White and it is no secret that the Black Panter is synonymous with the Black Panther movement in the mid 60-70s in the US. MJ was not only alive at that time, but he, apparently, loved to read history and even dedicated an entire song to it. In Remember the Time he set it up back in ancient Egypt and went against popular Hollywood depictions by making sure that everyone featured in the video was black. Someone who wasn't proud of who they were would not be embracing their history like that. They would be running away from it & not even acknowledge it.
Even looking beyond all that, MJ's recurring message in his music and art was the equality of everyone in all of his music dating ALL the way back to his earliest penned works with the Jacksons. Always. No matter how much lighter he was or how much smaller his nose became, he never changed his tune. I think it's very sad when people like to focus on that element, as it is pretty shallow on their behalf, rather than looking at what's right in front of them. If she could have thwarted the interviewer's questions by answering it in that manner rather than to trying to answer from her perspective and her clouded nostalgia goggles then maybe that interview wouldn't have been so rage-worthy. I mean, what did the man have to do? Go out with baggy pants down to his knees w/his drawers showing? Did he have to go out there pistol whipping brothas' and getting arrested for it? Did he not have enough big booty video girls in his music videos? Should he have had been arrested for having illegal narcotics on him? Should he have walked around in a dashiki? All to prove that he was proud to be who he was born as? Would he have, truly, fared out better by acting as a walking stereotype for some?
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I didn't mean to rant, but all this discussion of this album reminded me of this video. [Edited 8/14/10 23:08pm] | |
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HIStory took me two years to understand where Michael was coming from. By the time that Bashit documentary aired, I began listening to the album with new eyes and saw that this album was from a man who was obviously spilling his guts for everyone to see and folks still were pissing at him as if he wasn't human. | |
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poor michael was just too damned big, i think the same fate more or less would have happened between mike and the public/media with anyone else. The added neurosis of blackness just cemented the deal. People forget now but Elvis raped Priscilla, he almost killed a 13 year old with pills accidentally, broke a womans ankle. All things which could have ruined him even then, today there would be no way to keep those things quiet. There are always leaches to come out on famous people, i've studied enough of them to know it. Jack Dempsey had women accusing him of rape, being a pimp. It's just an occupational hazard for the famous. Money makes people absolutely insane. | |
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I've mentioned this a couple of times here but I'm gonna mention it again
One of my favorite current artists, Dam Funk said his biggest pet peeve was the comparison between Michael and Prince because Michael was more of an entertainer chasing hits (along with him saying he never plays Michael's music during his DJ nights)
and I really had to look at Michael's solo catalog and look at the state music was in when each album was released and the stories behind them and that statement doesn't ring true to me.
This may be the stan in me talking, but, Michael didn't chase hits, he just made them His music fit on radio and clubs of that time, but it also had it's own mark where it can be played years after. Even the first part of Dangerous heavily relying on the New Jack Swing sound, still felt different. It had that "Jackson Sound" as I like to call it. He would take a popular sound and do his own twist. Similar to Stevie in that respect that they could both take something new or current and twist it and make it theirs. The only time I feel Michael may have been "chasing" hits was Invincible, but even with that album, I can only think of maybe 6 songs that would have actually fit on the radio (Butterflies, Heaven Can Wait, Whatever Happens, You Rock My World, Invincible, Unbreakable)
and I definitely agree with you on the race issue. He never denied who he was and where he came from. In fact, he was more partial to his heritage. During Oprah's interview in 1993, she kept saying it was his first interview in 14 years and it makes you say what? because he had just done a huge interview with Ebony and Jet barely a year before In fact he had done several interviews with Ebony and Jet in those 14 years. He never strayed away from R&B either, always helped out black charities, was a huge supporter of BET (before and after the fuckery ) Ebony, Jet, and many black organizations
Katt Williams' commentary from a couple of years ago still irks me for those reasons you mentioned and I just stated "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Some black folks act brain-fart like when it's mentioned that MJ always showed pride in who he was. Unless they were a fan or unless they followed his career like that, they would look at you with weird faces. Thing is MJ NEVER turned his back on the black community or "black music". He was always producing stuff that was steep in black culture. Some folks just don't realize that. And thing is MJ never really put too much into it, he was proud to be black but he presented himself to ALL people. He was a unifier. He refuse to segregate himself and I think that was a problem for some black folks who didn't get what he was doing especially after Thriller. His music was an integrated musical pot and he wanted his fans the same way but he was always the first to remind you of WHO he was. | |
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You know, I had to pause a clip of Moonwalker. The one where they show that huge audience in Liverpool during the Bad Tour and I thought "To think, a black kid from Gary Indiana, which was one of the most segregated areas at the time, from poverty, did THAT...."
wow..... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Yeah I thought the same thing when I looked at that picture. Same when I saw him on HBO and you heard NOTHING but cheers at this man who came from where he came from. It's mind blowing. I almost cry thinking about it. And he was from the same background as you and me. I felt pride just thinking about it. | |
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^^ The Oprah Interview was I think Michael's first LIVE television interview in 14 years (at least in the states). I am guessing that was what she was playing at.
As my long discussion of the HiStory album attests (a page back), when I want to feel in touch with Michael the person through his art, this is the album I listen too. I like that he stood up for himself and went on the attack - even though at times he plays the victim on the album he is fully justified.
When Michael came from a moment of tension or anger in his music was often when he was being his most innovative. "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Metaphorically It's sad the man barely had a true friendship with someone. Besides, I've seen MJ in a clown suit or two | |
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I saw a skit that he did on MJ, and you've probably seen it, he was dissing him so bad that some people in the audience stopped laughing and the rest continued to laugh. This person, when you read the comments on YouTube called Katt Williams a leprechaun pimp because he had the green blazer and tie with his hair slicked back. If he didn't like MJ, fine but it didn't have to resort to this. The last I've heard about Katt Williams, he was in a mental institution. Is that right? | |
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Well, it does seem like some of the women he's encountered in his life becomes obsessed with him. I've kinda wonder why If you can follow a man all around the globe to be with him, then he must got it going on. You know who did this. I assume you do | |
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some of us female fans are obsessed too and it's hard to get over it | |
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I just saw this a few minutes ago and I think it goes along well with this discussion. YOU DON'T NEED A BUS PASS FOR ME TO BUS YOUR ASS,NIGGA ! | |
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I think he was evaluated at an institution, yes. That destroyed his entire show for me. I was gonna dig it but when he got into MJ, he ripped my heart apart. Especially with his ignorance towards vitiligo. | |
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I really don't like todays comedians, too rude, too brash and dishonest. By dishonest I mean I think they are willing to say anything for a laugh without any thought to situation or taste. I drove Cedric the Entertainer while he was in Seattle, you know what? I had nothing to say to him, I did go nuts for his bodyguard though, who was with my idol richard Pryor for many years. | |
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Nice clip | |
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Why is TMZ obessesd with MJ, unless he's alive or something
Remember they broke the news of his death 7 minutes before anyone else in the national media.
http://www.tmz.com/2010/04/30/michael-jackson-cirque-du-soleil-executive-producer-elvis-las-vegas/
MJ's Cirque Show -- The Elvis ConnectionSome serious progress is being made on the Michael Jackson Cirque du Soleil project -- TMZ has learned two Executive Producers have been selected ... and one of 'em has a tie with Elvis.
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some fans say to watch out for tmz and he will be back, I'm tired of wondering and have just let it go....it's too painful and I'm all cried out and bitter now | |
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Keep the faith.
I think TMZ knows a lot about what going on with anything Michael Jackson That's why they talk about him still.
why isn't Dr Conrad Murray in jail at all? He is having the time of his life.
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I hate Conrad Murray. I only hope for the sake of justice - he has to suffer as much as Michael's family, friends, and fans have had to these past years. MJ Fan 1992-Forever
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He's having the time of his life because he knows nothing is going to happen to him , I could tell since day one unless they still got the case going on ? I stop keeping up. | |
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Probably his second best album at least top 3 I don't listen to it much though. | |
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