seeingvoices12 said:

I have always thought that This Time Around was the weakest track on history.

"Come Together" was and it was recorded in '88.

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I have always thought that This Time Around was the weakest track on history.

"Come Together" was and it was recorded in '88.

That too

seeingvoices12 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Really? I always thought Smile and Little Susie were the oddballs of the record

I felt like those songs shouldnt have been included. "In The Back" could have replaced one of them. Seems like every song, MJ was taking his anger out, but those 2 tracks threw off the flow...TO ME

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I have always thought that This Time Around was the weakest track on history.

"Come Together" was and it was recorded in '88.

WHY THE HELL was that even on the album? We got it in 88 for Moonwalker, and again in 92 for Remember the Time.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

"Come Together" was and it was recorded in '88.

WHY THE HELL was that even on the album? We got it in 88 for Moonwalker, and again in 92 for Remember the Time.

I still scratch my head over that, if I was doing the album sequencing, I'd replace "Come Together" with "Morphine" if he had recorded that in '95 too lol

ViintageJunkiie said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I felt like those songs shouldnt have been included. "In The Back" could have replaced one of them. Seems like every song, MJ was taking his anger out, but those 2 tracks threw off the flow...TO ME

I respect your opinion but I think you should give little susie few more listens...underrated.

seeingvoices12 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

I felt like those songs shouldnt have been included. "In The Back" could have replaced one of them. Seems like every song, MJ was taking his anger out, but those 2 tracks threw off the flow...TO ME

I respect your opinion but I think you should give little susie few more listens...underrated.

no, no, NO! It's not that I don't LIKE the records, I just don't think they fit the theme of the HIStory album. I think they throw it off.

ViintageJunkiie said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I respect your opinion but I think you should give little susie few more listens...underrated.

no, no, NO! It's not that I don't LIKE the records, I just don't think they fit the theme of the HIStory album. I think they throw it off.

Yeah it did...I think they were for another project ("Smile" could've been for DECADE and "Little Susie" was for some musical), it didn't connect with the overall theme of HIStory.

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

WHY THE HELL was that even on the album? We got it in 88 for Moonwalker, and again in 92 for Remember the Time.

I still scratch my head over that, if I was doing the album sequencing, I'd replace "Come Together" with "Morphine" if he had recorded that in '95 too lol

I love morphine , this song was always ignored and overlooked , but now after his death, the song has much more meaning and depth.

maybe MJ released come together to upset paul Mccartney, you know

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

I still scratch my head over that, if I was doing the album sequencing, I'd replace "Come Together" with "Morphine" if he had recorded that in '95 too lol

I love morphine , this song was always ignored and overlooked , but now after his death, the song has much more meaning and depth.

maybe MJ released come together to upset paul Mccartney, you know

I doubt it. Michael still had love for the man.

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I love morphine , this song was always ignored and overlooked , but now after his death, the song has much more meaning and depth.

maybe MJ released come together to upset paul Mccartney, you know

I doubt it. Michael still had love for the man.

I'm kidding.....

obviously MJ loved the track to do a cover

MJ had love for the man ,but paul was a sad ass.

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

no, no, NO! It's not that I don't LIKE the records, I just don't think they fit the theme of the HIStory album. I think they throw it off.

Yeah it did...I think they were for another project ("Smile" could've been for DECADE and "Little Susie" was for some musical), it didn't connect with the overall theme of HIStory.

Right. Like, it even brings me back to Human Nature and Carousel

We all know the story of those two records, so in my iTunes, I replaced Human Nature with Carousel and played the Thriller album. Everything flowed...up until Carousel came on and I said "WTF". It threw off the vibe Thriller had.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah it did...I think they were for another project ("Smile" could've been for DECADE and "Little Susie" was for some musical), it didn't connect with the overall theme of HIStory.

Right. Like, it even brings me back to Human Nature and Carousel

We all know the story of those two records, so in my iTunes, I replaced Human Nature with Carousel and played the Thriller album. Everything flowed...up until Carousel came on and I said "WTF". It threw off the vibe Thriller had.

It definitely messes up things. Thriller had the right sequencing.

[Edited 8/13/10 15:44pm]

Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

no, no, NO! It's not that I don't LIKE the records, I just don't think they fit the theme of the HIStory album. I think they throw it off.

Yeah it did...I think they were for another project ("Smile" could've been for DECADE and "Little Susie" was for some musical), it didn't connect with the overall theme of HIStory.

I highly disagree.....

little susie and smile fit perfectly with the sound of the history album, A personal painful album.

come together doesn't fit

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah it did...I think they were for another project ("Smile" could've been for DECADE and "Little Susie" was for some musical), it didn't connect with the overall theme of HIStory.

I highly disagree.....

little susie and smile fit perfectly with the sound of the history album, A personal painful album.

come together doesn't fit

Nah think about it though...

Think about it.

OK maybe "Smile" fits...lol but I'm thinking "Little Susie" was for something else...it has a feeling of it belonging somewhere else to me.

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah it did...I think they were for another project ("Smile" could've been for DECADE and "Little Susie" was for some musical), it didn't connect with the overall theme of HIStory.

Right. Like, it even brings me back to Human Nature and Carousel

We all know the story of those two records, so in my iTunes, I replaced Human Nature with Carousel and played the Thriller album. Everything flowed...up until Carousel came on and I said "WTF". It threw off the vibe Thriller had.

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I highly disagree.....

little susie and smile fit perfectly with the sound of the history album, A personal painful album.

come together doesn't fit

Nah think about it though...

Think about it.

OK maybe "Smile" fits...lol but I'm thinking "Little Susie" was for something else...it has a feeling of it belonging somewhere else to me.

I think it fits think about it the glommy depressing sound of track does not fit with joyful record at all.....

I feel that MJ waited so long to release this track since it was written in 1979 , the depressing ,painful sound of the album history is where this song belongs.

[Edited 8/13/10 16:06pm]

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Nah think about it though...

Think about it.

OK maybe "Smile" fits...lol but I'm thinking "Little Susie" was for something else...it has a feeling of it belonging somewhere else to me.

I think it fits think about it the glommy depressing sound of track does not fit with joyful record at all.....

I feel that MJ waited so long to release this track since it was written in 1979 , the depressing ,painful sound of the album history is where this song belongs.

[Edited 8/13/10 16:06pm]

We know Michael had a lot of albums that he was working on that never came into planning because schedules got in the way. I'm just saying.

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I think it fits think about it the glommy depressing sound of track does not fit with joyful record at all.....

I feel that MJ waited so long to release this track since it was written in 1979 , the depressing ,painful sound of the album history is where this song belongs.

[Edited 8/13/10 16:06pm]

We know Michael had a lot of albums that he was working on that never came into planning because schedules got in the way. I'm just saying.

*facepalm*

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

We know Michael had a lot of albums that he was working on that never came into planning because schedules got in the way. I'm just saying.

*facepalm*

That being said there's something very poignant about that song and its placement on the album.

seeingvoices12 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:

Really? I always thought Smile and Little Susie were the oddballs of the record

With the weekly reviews of each MJ album that I'm working on I'm in the middle of HiStory (due to publish here on Sunday) and for me the weakest is D.S. in that I don't think it offers anything new and seems to just plod along on the same vibe. I know others will differ, but that's the great part about discussing music.

Swa

Swa said:

seeingvoices12 said:

With the weekly reviews of each MJ album that I'm working on I'm in the middle of HiStory (due to publish here on Sunday) and for me the weakest is D.S. in that I don't think it offers anything new and seems to just plod along on the same vibe. I know others will differ, but that's the great part about discussing music.

Swa

Yeah we see things differently. I don't think D.S. is weak but I can see why you would think it is. So it's all good.

Timmy84 said:

Swa said:

With the weekly reviews of each MJ album that I'm working on I'm in the middle of HiStory (due to publish here on Sunday) and for me the weakest is D.S. in that I don't think it offers anything new and seems to just plod along on the same vibe. I know others will differ, but that's the great part about discussing music.

Swa

Yeah we see things differently. I don't think D.S. is weak but I can see why you would think it is. So it's all good.

Dont you love the chorus, and the guitar solo part on D.S ? , i think it's great.

^^ I think we also have to look at the album as a four sided double album (oldskool).

When you do that - then the last 3 songs sound more cohesive.

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah we see things differently. I don't think D.S. is weak but I can see why you would think it is. So it's all good.

Dont you love the chorus, and the guitar solo part on D.S ? , i think it's great.

I am just glad to have heard Smile, its was one of my favs but now I just cant listen to it anymore it makes me to upset

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I have always thought that This Time Around was the weakest track on history.

"Come Together" was and it was recorded in '88.

Nah, son...his version of Come Together predates the bad album. It was recorded in 1985 during the Puerto Rican Mike phase

ViintageJunkiie said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I respect your opinion but I think you should give little susie few more listens...underrated.

no, no, NO! It's not that I don't LIKE the records, I just don't think they fit the theme of the HIStory album. I think they throw it off.

you muthafuckin trollip! I love that song!