Timmy84 said:

alphastreet said:

it had to have been during HIStory sessions since one was with Jam & Lewis, and the other had lyrics that were practically autobiographical

Hmm, bboy mentioned "Ghosts" being worked on first in 1991 (and it makes sense since he and Teddy Riley co-produced it) and "Is It Scary" was recorded around the time of The Addams Family Values and they were gonna put that song on the soundtrack but didn't because of scheduling conflicts.

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I don't know why I'm getting so fuzzy but those are true, I completely forgot teddy did ghosts, it wasn't coming to me, and the adams family thing slipped my mind, that was in 1993

alphastreet said:

Timmy84 said:

Hmm, bboy mentioned "Ghosts" being worked on first in 1991 (and it makes sense since he and Teddy Riley co-produced it) and "Is It Scary" was recorded around the time of The Addams Family Values and they were gonna put that song on the soundtrack but didn't because of scheduling conflicts.

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I don't know why I'm getting so fuzzy but those are true, I completely forgot teddy did ghosts, it wasn't coming to me, and the adams family thing slipped my mind, that was in 1993

Yeah I'm thinking that's the right timeline. Plus "Superfly Sister" sounds like a 1991 cut. Probably is.

Only "Morphine" was recorded after '95...I think.

I remember thinking the bridge in Superfly Sister sounded a bit like the bridge in Billie Jean and wondering if he was running out of ideas, but I was just a kid I'm so sorry Michael

dreamfactory313 said:

I couldnt help it.

Can someone please confirm if this photo was photoshopped bya fan to prove that Prince Michael had vitiligo or if this is an actual professional picture

http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Prince-Michael-Vitiligo.jpg

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alphastreet said:

I remember thinking the bridge in Superfly Sister sounded a bit like the bridge in Billie Jean and wondering if he was running out of ideas, but I was just a kid I'm so sorry Michael

Lol he definitely had ideas. That track is FUNKY.

Timmy84 said:

alphastreet said:

it had to have been during HIStory sessions since one was with Jam & Lewis, and the other had lyrics that were practically autobiographical

Hmm, bboy mentioned "Ghosts" being worked on first in 1991 (and it makes sense since he and Teddy Riley co-produced it) and "Is It Scary" was recorded around the time of The Addams Family Values and they were gonna put that song on the soundtrack but didn't because of scheduling conflicts.

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more like the 1993 child molestation accusations got in the way

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:

Hmm, bboy mentioned "Ghosts" being worked on first in 1991 (and it makes sense since he and Teddy Riley co-produced it) and "Is It Scary" was recorded around the time of The Addams Family Values and they were gonna put that song on the soundtrack but didn't because of scheduling conflicts.

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more like the 1993 child molestation accusations got in the way

That too.

Timmy84 said:

alphastreet said:

I remember thinking the bridge in Superfly Sister sounded a bit like the bridge in Billie Jean and wondering if he was running out of ideas, but I was just a kid I'm so sorry Michael

Lol he definitely had ideas. That track is FUNKY.

yeah it really is, I did love it right away despite noticing that similarity, including the title though I thought the title was so similar to the stuff Missy Elliot was doing at the time was that Super Duper Fly stuff lmaooo

alphastreet said:

Timmy84 said:

Lol he definitely had ideas. That track is FUNKY.

yeah it really is, I did love it right away despite noticing that similarity, including the title though I thought the title was so similar to the stuff Missy Elliot was doing at the time was that Super Duper Fly stuff lmaooo

The title's more in common with "Superfly" (the movie and the Curtis Mayfield soundtrack) than Missy IMHO.

bboy87 said:

That is hot!!!!!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

bboy87 said:

That is hot!!!!!

Agreed. I'd love to hear more songs like this, with the extra emphasis on the background

vocals. Use to be able to get that same sound if I left the headphones of my Walkman/Discman

halfway jacked into the headphone jack and halfway out.

Timmy84 said:

alphastreet said:

yeah it really is, I did love it right away despite noticing that similarity, including the title though I thought the title was so similar to the stuff Missy Elliot was doing at the time was that Super Duper Fly stuff lmaooo

The title's more in common with "Superfly" (the movie and the Curtis Mayfield soundtrack) than Missy IMHO.

yeah, I was young then

bboy87 said:

Bless your soul, bboy!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

bboy87 said:

That is hot!!!!!

A friend of mine turned down the lead vocals so you can hear the background vocals more. It's almost like the background vocals are a different song altogether

bboy87 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That is hot!!!!!

A friend of mine turned down the lead vocals so you can hear the background vocals more. It's almost like the background vocals are a different song altogether

Love his vocal arrangements. always have..

http://elefantemusic.blogspot.com/2009/07/personal-story-about-michael-jackson.html

From the time I was five years old I have been singing in studios all over NYC for commercials, demos and even music albums. My sister, brother and I have sung on albums for Gloria Estefan, Liza Minelli, Maureen McGovern and even soloed on the Canadian Brass Christmas album. One day, my mother got a call from our contractor booking us for a recording at the Hit Factory. We weren't allowed to know for whom we were singing and we were only allowed one parent per child. Our interest was peaked. We spent the next few days trying to figure out who this mystery recording could be for. We decided to bring three CD covers with us- Frank Sinatra (he was still alive at the time), Madonna and Michael Jackson.

We went to the studio and some guy told us we were going to be singing one word... "Childhood". He sang it for us once or twice then began recording. All we heard in the cans (headphones) were tracks with no lead vocal. We still couldn't figure out what or whom this was for. After singing the one word a few times, I saw a man behind the glass in the recording studio step forward out of the darkness with a black hat, a red shirt and a black curl in front of his face. On the talkback we heard, "Can you sing it a little more like this... Childhood" As soon as I heard the voice I grabbed my sister's hand and spoke without moving my lips "It's MICHAEL JACKSON!!!!"

I cooly sang "Childhood" about a dozen more times and the engineer thanked us and said we were done. We went back to the green room where our parents were waiting and I grabbed the Bad album cover from my mom and brought it to Michael's assistant. I asked her if she could please bring it to Michael and have him sign it. The other kids who sang with us began ripping little pieces of paper for him to sign. They were no where near as prepared as my family!!

The assistant said "Let me see what I can do", and she disappeared for about five minutes. She came back and said, "Can I have all of the kids follow me?" We followed her to a door in the Hit Factory that had a star on it and said "Jackson". We went into the room and there he was, greeting us at the door with a hand shake and a smile and telling us that it was a pleasure to meet us. Can you imagine? A pleasure to meet us?? His room was filled with some pretty strange things: life-size cut-outs of the Power Rangers, a train set, and a giant globe that rotated. He had pictures of children that he had helped attached to the country they were from.

Michael had many questions for us like if any of us went to camp for the summer. He said that he always asked his parents if he could go to summer camp because it looked like so much fun and of course they told him no!! This was right around the time when the media was questioning whether or not he had married Lisa Marie Presley. I noticed a ring on his hand and I said, "so does that ring mean you are married to Lisa Marie?" He nodded his head yes and said "shhhhhh". We chatted for a while, he signed our album cover and we went home having what I thought was the greatest day of my life.


A week or two later my mother got another call from our contractor. This time she said Michael wanted to have us back to the studio to record a Christmas song. It was July but when we got to the studio, it was decorated for the holidays. There was snow all over the ground, a tree, Santa who gave us all presents (we each got a Gameboy... tells you how long ago this was!!) and reindeer. Michael came walking right into the studio this time and didn't hide behind the glass. I guess he felt more comfortable with us this time. He taught us the song himself and stayed with us in the sound booth as we were singing it. After we recorded the song he invited our parents into the studio and had the whole thing catered. We sat around the piano as he played the piano and we all sang Christmas songs. It's just like Christmas Eve at the Elefante's (my in-laws)!!!


So on June 25th, when the whole world was in shock of Michael Jackson's death, these were the memories that all came flooding back for me.

bboy87 said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

That is hot!!!!!

A friend of mine turned down the lead vocals so you can hear the background vocals more. It's almost like the background vocals are a different song altogether

This is making me want to hunt out my tapes where I recorded all the CD's like this - messing with the audio jacks to get that effect - of course back then I called it Swa Sound when I recorded them.

I have every MJ album like this and some songs are amazing when you hear mostly backing vocals and instruments normally mixed down.

How come the guitar part on "They Don't Care About Us" reminds me of the guitar part on Billy Idol's "Eyes Without A Face"??

Swa said:

bboy87 said:

A friend of mine turned down the lead vocals so you can hear the background vocals more. It's almost like the background vocals are a different song altogether

This is making me want to hunt out my tapes where I recorded all the CD's like this - messing with the audio jacks to get that effect - of course back then I called it Swa Sound when I recorded them.

I have every MJ album like this and some songs are amazing when you hear mostly backing vocals and instruments normally mixed down.

I can imagine how that would sound. I love his vocal arrangements....

Swa said:

bboy87 said:

A friend of mine turned down the lead vocals so you can hear the background vocals more. It's almost like the background vocals are a different song altogether

This is making me want to hunt out my tapes where I recorded all the CD's like this - messing with the audio jacks to get that effect - of course back then I called it Swa Sound when I recorded them.

I have every MJ album like this and some songs are amazing when you hear mostly backing vocals and instruments normally mixed down.

Have you ever tried listening to his songs while choosing one instrument that you will focus on? It will give you a totally another perspective of the song. I adore for example the strings in Earth Song or the synthetizers (or what is it ) in Give In To Me. They´re so beautiful. And I love listening to songs on headphones because it makes you notice things you wouldn´t notice otherwise. For example, try listening to the bridge of Blood On The Dancefloor where he sings "ooooh, blood on the dancefloor, ooooohhh blood on the dancefloor" and listen to the highest background voice in the harmony part. He sings that sooooooooooooo high. It´s unbelievable. Or the lowest voice in the chorus of Heaven Can Wait. He really had an unbelievable range.

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A good laugh:

suga10 said:

Can someone please confirm if this photo was photoshopped bya fan to prove that Prince Michael had vitiligo or if this is an actual professional picture

http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Prince-Michael-Vitiligo.jpg

[Edited 8/12/10 17:34pm]

No,they arent photoshopped.

They were taken in Hawaii,on June 25th.

On June 26th these pictures were plastered all over the celebrity gossip entertainment shows.

Even though that white spot grabs your attention more than anything in that photo,none of those

shows made any mention of the huge white vitiligoesque spot on his arm until about 3-4 days later.

But, to answer your question,Yeah its professional.

Cinnie said:

How come the guitar part on "They Don't Care About Us" reminds me of the guitar part on Billy Idol's "Eyes Without A Face"??

I always felt the syth melody was very similar to the melody of Luther Vandross' "Never Too Much"

bboy87 said:

Maybe it's just me that noticed but it sounds like Michael really listened closely to Marvin's doo-wop background vocals. It's a real strong influence.

I have always thought that This Time Around was the weakest track on history.

seeingvoices12 said:

I have always thought that This Time Around was the weakest track on history.

Really? I always thought Smile and Little Susie were the oddballs of the record

ViintageJunkiie said:

seeingvoices12 said:

I have always thought that This Time Around was the weakest track on history.

Really? I always thought Smile and Little Susie were the oddballs of the record