Shango said:

Timmy84 said:

The 1980s...I want them.

Those singles you want ? .... start saving bucks

Yeah I know it's costly right?

Timmy84 said:

MrSoulpower said:

Counter attack!!!

I'm gonna shoot ya with my bop gun.

Bootsy vs. Bootsy

MrSoulpower said:

That's true. Singles never went away. And today, new Funk acts release vinyl 45s, and DJs play vinyl 45s (for various reasons .. nostalgia, superb sound, easy to carry and the fact that many songs were only released on 45s and not on albums.)

But the output of Funk 45s in the years '67 to '71 remains unreached. I don't think we'll ever see a spike like that. I've been collecting Funk 45s for 15 years now, and I still hear or find 45s that I've never seen or never heard before.

Maybe because recording an album was less standard at that time ? ... i've seen a similar thing with reggae in later years.

I once entered a wreckastow which just had imported piles and piles of reggae-singles lol. Never saw that much in one shop before.

"I was diggin' on y'all funk for a while, sounds y'all got a three on it though to me. "

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MrSoulpower said:

Timmy84 said:

I'm gonna shoot ya with my bop gun.

Bootsy vs. Bootsy

WIIIIIIIIND ME UP!!!!!

Shango said:

MrSoulpower said:

That's true. Singles never went away. And today, new Funk acts release vinyl 45s, and DJs play vinyl 45s (for various reasons .. nostalgia, superb sound, easy to carry and the fact that many songs were only released on 45s and not on albums.)

But the output of Funk 45s in the years '67 to '71 remains unreached. I don't think we'll ever see a spike like that. I've been collecting Funk 45s for 15 years now, and I still hear or find 45s that I've never seen or never heard before.

Maybe because recording an album was less standard at that time ? ... i've seen a similar thing with reggae in later years.

I once entered a wreckastow which just had imported piles and piles of reggae-singles lol. Never saw that much in one shop before.

Yeah, that's the main reason. Early Funk was a 45 genre ... not an LP genre. That still doesn't change the fact that Funk had the highest output during that time .. It's an explanation, but not a fact-changer.

Keep it up Pari I'm gonna post Xavier in here (which feature Bootsy and George lol).

Work that sucka to death, sucka to death...

Timmy84 said:

Shango said:

Those singles you want ? .... start saving bucks

Yeah I know it's costly right?

welcome to the wonderful ...of popsike

MrSoulpower said:

TonyVanDam said:

James Brown's funk was not primitive. But it is definitely a classic example of horn-driven funk. I say the same thing about Kool & The Gang (pre-JT Taylor) & Tower Of Power.

Now if you're a fan of The Funk at its most primitive state, listen to The Meters. THIS classic funk band had no horn section OR synths neither. And to top it all off, The Meters' funk was downtempo most of the time (hence where Dr. Dre/Warren G. borrowed the downtempo idea from for G-Funk).

Now don't get it twisted. I always liked The Meters, given that they're from New Orleans just like me. But their funk has absolutely no ounce of advance technology in it. To my ears, that is primitive.

Just saying.

Well, if you use the word "primitive" to decsribe raw and uncut music free of technological advancements, then OK ... I'd agree. But usually, the word primitive has a rather negative association ... like "unskilled".

For the record, I'm a huge Meters fan, but these guys were a commerical hit compared to most of the obscure Funk artists that recorded in those days.

Yes, THAT^ is exactly what I'm saying.

Shango said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I know it's costly right?

welcome to the wonderful ...of popsike

MrSoulpower said:

Shango said:

Maybe because recording an album was less standard at that time ? ... i've seen a similar thing with reggae in later years.

I once entered a wreckastow which just had imported piles and piles of reggae-singles lol. Never saw that much in one shop before.

Yeah, that's the main reason. Early Funk was a 45 genre ... not an LP genre. That still doesn't change the fact that Funk had the highest output during that time .. It's an explanation, but not a fact-changer.

Aha, okay. Was the influence of James Brown one of the main reasons for that high production ?

Shango said:

MrSoulpower said:

Yeah, that's the main reason. Early Funk was a 45 genre ... not an LP genre. That still doesn't change the fact that Funk had the highest output during that time .. It's an explanation, but not a fact-changer.

Aha, okay. Was the influence of James Brown one of the main reasons for that high production ?

That brother made the longest joints ever. There weren't that simple lol Hell James was practically the reason funk started to sell after 1970 least to the black community.

It's quite interesting how much of what became funk music reverberated around Bootsy and Catfish. They changed with the times successfully between the late '60s through the early '80s. No reason neither of the brothers should be overlooked. Without them, James and George wouldn't have found that EXTRA spark to their careers.

thnx T84

Shango said:

thnx T84

You're welcome.

Timmy84 said:

Keep it up Pari I'm gonna post Xavier in here (which feature Bootsy and George lol).

Work that sucka to death, sucka to death...

What about some early Kool & the Gang (since people here like Kool & the Gang):

or ...

How anyone can take "Ladie's Night" over this is beyond me, but to each their own.

Diggin' a little deeper ...

Or to those who claim Funk is dead .. let's pick up some recent Funk ...

I got your "early Kool & the Gang"...

Shango said:

MrSoulpower said:

Yeah, that's the main reason. Early Funk was a 45 genre ... not an LP genre. That still doesn't change the fact that Funk had the highest output during that time .. It's an explanation, but not a fact-changer.

Aha, okay. Was the influence of James Brown one of the main reasons for that high production ?

Absolutely. There are so many deep Funk 45s that attempt to reproduce the James Brown sound, it would be impossible to count them. When Brown released his first Funk 45s, that changed everything.

Cool, thnx

Here is perhaps one of the top 10 funk jams of all time if not the best

I love the alternate version too

Holy Ghost Reborn

Warning: It gets real funky the last couple of minutes of the record

Bringing some '80s funk:

And as I promise Pari:

Timmy84 said:

I got your "early Kool & the Gang"...

That's from their "transition phase" lol Like "Jungle Boogie."

Here some more absolute classics ...

Oh, and here a little later. Even got the word "Disco" in it.

OK, I'm outta here ...

phunkdaddy said:

Here is perhaps one of the top 10 funk jams of all time if not the best

I love the alternate version too

Holy Ghost Reborn

Warning: It gets real funky the last couple of minutes of the record

MrSoulpower said:

Shango said:

Aha, okay. Was the influence of James Brown one of the main reasons for that high production ?

Absolutely. There are so many deep Funk 45s that attempt to reproduce the James Brown sound, it would be impossible to count them. When Brown released his first Funk 45s, that changed everything.

I think most here have already agreed that Kool & the Gang's early 70's period was

much tighter than the polished sound they adopted in the 79 through 80's period. I

recently discovered some earlier stuff i hadn't heard from the band a few years ago.

Even on the more polished Ladies Night, Robert "Kool's bass licks on that and other

latter 80's songs are tight and legendary. I'll exclude Celebration because i know

that's a vomit pig for a lot of funk fans.

I listened to some of the 45's you posted and they are cool. Most are more of that

polished funk. For someone like Vainandy and even myself at times we prefer the

funk to be hard.

I always dug Brass Construction myself. I'll add Mass Production too even before

they got synth crazy in the early 80's.

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phunkdaddy said:

MrSoulpower said:

Absolutely. There are so many deep Funk 45s that attempt to reproduce the James Brown sound, it would be impossible to count them. When Brown released his first Funk 45s, that changed everything.

I think most here have already agreed that Kool & the Gang's early 70's period was

much tighter than the polished sound they adopted in the 79 through 80's period. I

recently discovered some earlier stuff i hadn't heard from the band a few years ago.

Even on the more polished Ladies Night, Robert "Kool's bass licks on that and other

latter 80's songs are tight and legendary. I'll exclude Celebration because i know

that's a vomit pig for a lot of funk fans.

I listened to some of the 45's you posted and they are cool. Most are more of that

polished funk. For someone like Vainandy and even myself at times we prefer the

funk to be hard.

I consider "Celebration" to be their albatross. Absolutely one of the worst songs of all time. OBVIOUSLY not the same group who did either "Funky Stuff" OR "Ladies' Night". They still had some tight grooves in the late '70s and early '80s.

MrSoulpower said:

Here some more absolute classics ...

[youtube picks from Pari wuz here]

OK, I'm outta here ...

And no, almost everyone thinks early '70s KATG was their best period. As do I.

Timmy84 said:

And no, almost everyone thinks early '70s KATG was their best period. As do I.

I actually enjoy the entire 70s output of KATG

Timmy84 said:

And no, almost everyone thinks early '70s KATG was their best period. As do I.

Most definitely. I hope i don't hurt anyone's feelings by saying this but

I wish Celebration would be put to rest.