Timmy84 said:

Militant said:

/\ random question, but is Billy Nunn from Stone City Band the brother of Bobby Nunn who did "She's Just A Groupie"? I seem to remember that Bobby had some Rick James affiliation or maybe Rick worked on Bobby's record or something.

Yeah I thought you knew.

That's a great lineup by the way.

I thought that he was but I wasn't 100% sure.

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Militant said:

Timmy84 said:

Yeah I thought you knew.

That's a great lineup by the way.

I thought that he was but I wasn't 100% sure.

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Gotcha.

minneapolisFunq said:

It makes me wonder if artists of the past actually enjoyed the music they made.

They seemed to give up on the music as quickly as the record label without putting up a fight.

The 90s hit and people didn't even bother trying anymore.

I don't understand Y it failed 2 make a lasting impression on aspiring artists.

U can always find someone who has a guitar and likes playing rock music and U can usually find someone who likes to rap.

Some of them put up a hell of a fight before finally retiring or eventually selling out to the current sound. Several of them hung on in there until around 1995 or 1996.

In the early 1990s, Cameo released funk on their "Emotional Violence" album. It got a little airplay in my area but not much. Around 1995 or 1996, they released another album called "In The Face Of Funk" on a small label and got absolutely no radio airplay whatsover. The only way I knew it existed, is because I saw the "Slyde" video on BET and I went out and bought the album.

The Barkays hung on in there also. In the early 1990s, they released a cassette single on a small label called "Put A Little Nasty On It" and it was funky as hell. It got absolutely no radio airplay whatsoever. The only reason I knew it existed is because I saw it in the record store and being the big Barkays fan that I am, I bought it. Around 1996 or so, they released an album called "48 Hours" that had a few funk jams on it. The only reason I knew it existed is because I saw their video "Slide" on BET. This was when the "Video Vibrations" was still on the air with the Unseen VJ. BET was already a bunch of bullshit in those days but after that show ended, the network was total bullshit.

Chic had a very funky album in the early 1990s. The only reason I knew it existed, is because I heard "Chic Mystique" on a white radio station during their dance mix show on Saturday nights. I never heard on black radio at all. Chic was fitting in really well at the time too, on that dance mix show because this was the early 1990s when dance/house music was making a little steam in the gay clubs, both black and white, and on white radio. Black radio had already basically gone to the dogs because they were playing a lot of adult contempory dull shit at the time (thanks a lot Shitney Houston). On the rare occassion that they got uptempo at all, it was mainly new jack swing (yeah right, big thrill).

War had an album in the early 1990s called "Peace Sign". I saw the video a few times on "Video Vibrations" and heard the song maybe two or three times on black radio and that was all. Roger had a funky album in the early 1990s also called "Bridging The Gap". I heard the single "Everybody Get Up" maybe three of four times on black radio and that was all. Isaac Hayes had a song called "Funky Junky" and George Clinton did a remake of "Erotic City" in the mid 1990s. Both jams got absolutely no radio airplay whatsoever.

So yeah, they hung in as long as they could making funk but they had to make it on small record labels and they got little or no radio airplay whatsoever. Radio was too busy playing shit hop and wouldn't let anything else slip through and if it did, they only played it three or four times just to be able to say that they played it. They didn't pump or hype it up at all. And people wonder why I have absolutely zero tolerance of shit hop. Well, that's why. It has snuffed everything else out. See, in the 1980s, the enemy used to be crossover but the 1990s found a much more effective enemy....cheaply made music.

minneapolisFunq said:

LoveIsTheMessage said:

I'd say that real funk had died off well before the late eighties

That is completely untrue.

I can pull out a handful of jams from 86-90

The problem with funk in the late 1980s was that everyone was copying Prince sound before he had changed his style....Ready For The World, The Jets, Madame X, Chaka Khan, Egyptian Lover, El DeBarge, Chico DeBarge, The Barkays, Lakeside, Jody Watley, Vesta Williams, Krystol, Janet Jackson, Herb Alpert, etc. Then there were the ex-Prince protegees along with their new protegees and new Prince protegees as well....Morris Day, Jesse Johnson, Andre Cymone, TaMara and The Seen, DaKrash, The Family, Madhouse, Jill Jones, etc. All this was great music and great fun but the majority of the late 1980s funk scene was Prince sounding and their were very few funk groups recording with their individual sound to give radio a variety of funk.

Then there was the watering down of music to get a crossover hit...Johnny Kemp "Just Got Paid" and "I Wanna Be Rich" by whoever that tired ass singer was are the first two that come to mind. Cameo, Midnight Star, Roger and Zapp, and The Barkays are about the only groups I can think of that were still around in the late 1980s and their music was much weaker than before because they were either chasing rap or new jack trends or chasing crossover trends.

And the worst was folks like Michael Cooper, Freddie Jackson, etc. who used to be in funk bands but were going solo and making adult contemporary type R&B. Lionel Richie had been a big success earlier but at least funk was still existing in the early 1980s while he was doing his thing. A certain little miss goodie shoes though, really ruined things with her major crossover and adult contemporary succes.

BlaqueKnight said:

minneapolisFunq said:

That is completely untrue.

I can pull out a handful of jams from 86-90

Come on, kid. There are many of us on here who were actually around DURING THE TIME THE MUSIC WAS HAPPENING. How are you going to argue with us on that? You weren' there.

The real funk HAD died off by the mid 80s. Of course people can pull a few exceptions out - there are always exceptions. Funk was not what was happeneing in the mid to late80s. Pince himself was trying to get as far away from funk as possible; especially after Purple Rain. 60 and 70s funk, aka the JB funk, aka the REAL DEAL, was not where black music was in the mid to late 80s. There were still traces and there were still songs with funky elements to them but the slap bass, funky horn sections and big ass band sound was replaced by synths. Much of the R&B music then was experimentation with synth sounds.

R&B was just considered R&B, not funk. Also, rap was coming about and gaining popularity, so groups like the Jonzun Crew , Twilight 22 and Soulsonic Force were being mixed in with the R&B of the current time. Everybody was playing with synth sounds. MN funk is a watered down hybrid of what actual funk was in the 70s. Was it cool? Hell yes. Was it pure funk? Hell no. In the late 80s, R&B was experimental but funk as a genre had pretty much died off.

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Absolutely correct. And don't forget the other rap groups like Egyptian Lover, Pretty Tony, Freestyle, Divine Sounds, LA Dream Team, Newcleus. And if you notice, these groups created their jams from the ground up with their own music. None of this "slow beat with some talking on top of it" that was underground in the late 1980s and came above ground in the 1990s and is still here. In order to get airplay, these groups had to compete with funk and if they weren't funky, their asses didn't get played. I remember rappers complaining in the late 1980s that they couldn't get any airplay. Well hell, from what I've seen, only the ones that deserved airplay got airplay. We didn't tolerate that "talking over a slow beat" bullshit because we were accustomed to much better.

madhattter said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Come on, kid. There are many of us on here who were actually around DURING THE TIME THE MUSIC WAS HAPPENING. How are you going to argue with us on that? You weren' there.

The real funk HAD died off by the mid 80s. Of course people can pull a few exceptions out - there are always exceptions. Funk was not what was happeneing in the mid to late80s. Pince himself was trying to get as far away from funk as possible; especially after Purple Rain. 60 and 70s funk, aka the JB funk, aka the REAL DEAL, was not where black music was in the mid to late 80s. There were still traces and there were still songs with funky elements to them but the slap bass, funky horn sections and big ass band sound was replaced by synths. Much of the R&B music then was experimentation with synth sounds.

R&B was just considered R&B, not funk. Also, rap was coming about and gaining popularity, so groups like the Jonzun Crew , Twilight 22 and Soulsonic Force were being mixed in with the R&B of the current time. Everybody was playing with synth sounds. MN funk is a watered down hybrid of what actual funk was in the 70s. Was it cool? Hell yes. Was it pure funk? Hell no. In the late 80s, R&B was experimental but funk as a genre had pretty much died off.

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What you said is the absolute truth. As a musician of funk/pop/dance music from that era, funk was considered as too hardcore and it didn't have the crossover appeal that we were looking for in order to cross-over to the "white radio stations"- in order to make REAL money. The biggest acts of the eighties such as Prince, Michael, Lionel Richie,EWF, Kool and the Gang, and even Stevie were abandoning the funk inorder to obtain a greater appeal with the masses and the much bigger payoff as well! With that, the emphasis changed from bands to solo artists, which has by now resulted in the lack of, or shortage of, Black musicians that want to play guitar, bass, horns, drums, and keys to a lesser extent.........

That's exactly right. Crossing over and attempts to crossover definately killed funk. I remember the first time I heard "Little Red Corvette" on white radio and being furious that they were playing the song because I had seen how crossing over had ruined other artists and weakened their music from then on. Prince was my favorite artist and I sure as hell didn't want to see him ruined. But Prince is strange though. Once he made it huge with "Purple Rain", he pissed off a lot of his old R&B fans and his new pop fans with his style change beginning with his next album. I always said he changed but I never said he sold out....well, not until recent years.

vainandy said:

minneapolisFunq said:

It makes me wonder if artists of the past actually enjoyed the music they made.

They seemed to give up on the music as quickly as the record label without putting up a fight.

The 90s hit and people didn't even bother trying anymore.

I don't understand Y it failed 2 make a lasting impression on aspiring artists.

U can always find someone who has a guitar and likes playing rock music and U can usually find someone who likes to rap.

Some of them put up a hell of a fight before finally retiring or eventually selling out to the current sound. Several of them hung on in there until around 1995 or 1996.

In the early 1990s, Cameo released funk on their "Emotional Violence" album. It got a little airplay in my area but not much. Around 1995 or 1996, they released another album called "In The Face Of Funk" on a small label and got absolutely no radio airplay whatsover. The only way I knew it existed, is because I saw the "Slyde" video on BET and I went out and bought the album.

I remember both of those Cameo albums. To their credit, Larry Blackmon & Company put up a better fight than any of the funk soliders in the 1990's. Even by watching the video for Emotional Violence, I can tell that Cameo was declaring war (symbolically speaking) against the negative changes the industry was headed.

vainandy said:

minneapolisFunq said:

That is completely untrue.

I can pull out a handful of jams from 86-90

The problem with funk in the late 1980s was that everyone was copying Prince sound before he had changed his style....Ready For The World, The Jets, Madame X, Chaka Khan, Egyptian Lover, El DeBarge, Chico DeBarge, The Barkays, Lakeside, Jody Watley, Vesta Williams, Krystol, Janet Jackson, Herb Alpert, etc. Then there were the ex-Prince protegees along with their new protegees and new Prince protegees as well....Morris Day, Jesse Johnson, Andre Cymone, TaMara and The Seen, DaKrash, The Family, Madhouse, Jill Jones, etc. All this was great music and great fun but the majority of the late 1980s funk scene was Prince sounding and their were very few funk groups recording with their individual sound to give radio a variety of funk.

Then there was the watering down of music to get a crossover hit...Johnny Kemp "Just Got Paid" and "I Wanna Be Rich" by whoever that tired ass singer was are the first two that come to mind. Cameo, Midnight Star, Roger and Zapp, and The Barkays are about the only groups I can think of that were still around in the late 1980s and their music was much weaker than before because they were either chasing rap or new jack trends or chasing crossover trends.

And the worst was folks like Michael Cooper, Freddie Jackson, etc. who used to be in funk bands but were going solo and making adult contemporary type R&B. Lionel Richie had been a big success earlier but at least funk was still existing in the early 1980s while he was doing his thing. A certain little miss goodie shoes though, really ruined things with her major crossover and adult contemporary succes.

That were The Calloway Brothers, both of them were former members of Midnight Star.

And both factions (Calloway AND Midnight Star) were NEVER the same after that. And there has been many Midnight Star reunion shows in recent years, but both of the Calloway Brothers never told part of it.

TonyVanDam said:

vainandy said:

The problem with funk in the late 1980s was that everyone was copying Prince sound before he had changed his style....Ready For The World, The Jets, Madame X, Chaka Khan, Egyptian Lover, El DeBarge, Chico DeBarge, The Barkays, Lakeside, Jody Watley, Vesta Williams, Krystol, Janet Jackson, Herb Alpert, etc. Then there were the ex-Prince protegees along with their new protegees and new Prince protegees as well....Morris Day, Jesse Johnson, Andre Cymone, TaMara and The Seen, DaKrash, The Family, Madhouse, Jill Jones, etc. All this was great music and great fun but the majority of the late 1980s funk scene was Prince sounding and their were very few funk groups recording with their individual sound to give radio a variety of funk.

Then there was the watering down of music to get a crossover hit...Johnny Kemp "Just Got Paid" and "I Wanna Be Rich" by whoever that tired ass singer was are the first two that come to mind. Cameo, Midnight Star, Roger and Zapp, and The Barkays are about the only groups I can think of that were still around in the late 1980s and their music was much weaker than before because they were either chasing rap or new jack trends or chasing crossover trends.

And the worst was folks like Michael Cooper, Freddie Jackson, etc. who used to be in funk bands but were going solo and making adult contemporary type R&B. Lionel Richie had been a big success earlier but at least funk was still existing in the early 1980s while he was doing his thing. A certain little miss goodie shoes though, really ruined things with her major crossover and adult contemporary succes.

That were The Calloway Brothers, both of them were former members of Midnight Star.

And both factions (Calloway AND Midnight Star) were NEVER the same after that. And there has been many Midnight Star reunion shows in recent years, but both of the Calloway Brothers never told part of it.

Now see that sucks... I hated that song too growing up lol had NO idea they were part of Midnight Starr until much, much later.

Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

That were The Calloway Brothers, both of them were former members of Midnight Star.

And both factions (Calloway AND Midnight Star) were NEVER the same after that. And there has been many Midnight Star reunion shows in recent years, but both of the Calloway Brothers never told part of it.

Now see that sucks... I hated that song too growing up lol had NO idea they were part of Midnight Starr until much, much later.

Hell yeah, it sucks! And it was also a total disgrace in the eyes of many synth-funk fans that knew of The Calloways as the main producers within Midnight Star.

As for the remaining band members, Don't Rock That Boat & Snake In The Glass were the last songs/videos that I knew they done since The Calloways left them. Very entertaining tracks without question. But they are NOT classics like Freakazoid, Operator, & No Parking On The Dancefloor.

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Now see that sucks... I hated that song too growing up lol had NO idea they were part of Midnight Starr until much, much later.

Hell yeah, it sucks! And it was also a total disgrace in the eyes of many synth-funk fans that knew of The Calloways as the main producers within Midnight Star.

As for the remaining band members, Don't Rock That Boat & Snake In The Glass were the last songs/videos that I knew they done since The Calloways left them. Very entertaining tracks without question. But they are NOT classics like Freakazoid, Operator, & No Parking On The Dancefloor.

I wished things had worked out differently for them.

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

Now see that sucks... I hated that song too growing up lol had NO idea they were part of Midnight Starr until much, much later.

Hell yeah, it sucks! And it was also a total disgrace in the eyes of many synth-funk fans that knew of The Calloways as the main producers within Midnight Star.

As for the remaining band members, Don't Rock That Boat & Snake In The Glass were the last songs/videos that I knew they done since The Calloways left them. Very entertaining tracks without question. But they are NOT classics like Freakazoid, Operator, & No Parking On The Dancefloor.

I hated "Don't Rock That Boat" and the song "Headlines" from the album before that one. They were getting away from their sound and following trends. I loved "Snake In The Grass" though. That sounded like Midnight Star getting back to their old selves.

vainandy said:

TonyVanDam said:

Hell yeah, it sucks! And it was also a total disgrace in the eyes of many synth-funk fans that knew of The Calloways as the main producers within Midnight Star.

As for the remaining band members, Don't Rock That Boat & Snake In The Glass were the last songs/videos that I knew they done since The Calloways left them. Very entertaining tracks without question. But they are NOT classics like Freakazoid, Operator, & No Parking On The Dancefloor.

I hated "Don't Rock That Boat" and the song "Headlines" from the album before that one. They were getting away from their sound and following trends. I loved "Snake In The Grass" though. That sounded like Midnight Star getting back to their old selves.

I rather listen to Headlines than that cheesy ass sounding Midas Touch.

Okay, jumping from mid-80's to almost circa mid-90's (1994) ... Plantation Lullabies ... "diggin it like an old soul record" .

Miss Free-Like-A-Bird gets an honourable mention in Rickey Vincent's funkbible for keeping the funk alive.

How was her groove impressing yall ? ... i remember being hooked on the headphones in a wreckastow when hearing that phat buttered "Shooting Up & Getting High". It shure might've been a hybrid continuation of previous funk-era's, but i never forget attending one of her shows on a fest, and seeing the face of a smiling Bootsy bobbing his head backstage while watching Me'Shell getting her groove on with an impressive band. How much more recognition can ya get ?!

TonyVanDam said: I read that book many of nights.

TonyVanDam said:

vainandy said:

I hated "Don't Rock That Boat" and the song "Headlines" from the album before that one. They were getting away from their sound and following trends. I loved "Snake In The Grass" though. That sounded like Midnight Star getting back to their old selves.

I rather listen to Headlines than that cheesy ass sounding Midas Touch.

"Midas Touch" was definately weak. "Engine No. 9" was OK though but not near as strong as their earlier work.

vainandy said:

TonyVanDam said:

I rather listen to Headlines than that cheesy ass sounding Midas Touch.

"Midas Touch" was definately weak. "Engine No. 9" was OK though but not near as strong as their earlier work.

I throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear mention of that damn song. Its hard to believe that the same guys that did No Parking On The Dance Floor and Freakizoid are responsible for that "I wanna be rich" and Midas Touch" garbage.

BlaqueKnight said:

vainandy said:

"Midas Touch" was definately weak. "Engine No. 9" was OK though but not near as strong as their earlier work.

I throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear mention of that damn song. Its hard to believe that the same guys that did No Parking On The Dance Floor and Freakizoid are responsible for that "I wanna be rich" and Midas Touch" garbage.

I absolutely hated "I Wanna Be Rich". I had no idea they used to be in Midnight Star. Today is the day I found that out.

I throw up even more though when I think that Babyface used to be in a bad ass group like The Deele making jams like "Body Talk" and "Material Thangz". He said his band members use to laugh at the stuff he wanted to contribute and called it waterfall music. Little did any of the world know back then that weak shit was going to be what took over and refused to leave because we were jamming so hard in those days. I just find it rediculous that the world has gone backwards to the days of all slow music like the old classical music days instead of going forward, continueing with, and improving jams that would be so funky that you would fall out from exaustion from shaking ass. It's just not fair that these damn youngsters have the taste of senior citizens and have ruined things for the older folks that like to party! It's the 2000s, we're supposed to be throwing down! What the fuck is wrong with these motherfuckers!

vainandy said:

I just find it rediculous that the world has gone backwards to the days of all slow music like the old classical music days instead of going forward, continueing with, and improving jams that would be so funky that you would fall out from exaustion from shaking ass. It's just not fair that these damn youngsters have the taste of senior citizens and have ruined things for the older folks that like to party! It's the 2000s, we're supposed to be throwing down! What the fuck is wrong with these motherfuckers!

I believe that mainly counts for r&b + hiphop. The current scene of electro and deephouse release fast grooves that people can throw down to.

vainandy said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear mention of that damn song. Its hard to believe that the same guys that did No Parking On The Dance Floor and Freakizoid are responsible for that "I wanna be rich" and Midas Touch" garbage.

I absolutely hated "I Wanna Be Rich". I had no idea they used to be in Midnight Star. Today is the day I found that out.

I throw up even more though when I think that Babyface used to be in a bad ass group like The Deele making jams like "Body Talk" and "Material Thangz". He said his band members use to laugh at the stuff he wanted to contribute and called it waterfall music. Little did any of the world know back then that weak shit was going to be what took over and refused to leave because we were jamming so hard in those days. I just find it rediculous that the world has gone backwards to the days of all slow music like the old classical music days instead of going forward, continueing with, and improving jams that would be so funky that you would fall out from exaustion from shaking ass. It's just not fair that these damn youngsters have the taste of senior citizens and have ruined things for the older folks that like to party! It's the 2000s, we're supposed to be throwing down! What the fuck is wrong with these motherfuckers!

Technically it's the 2010s...like that makes any difference. But yeah let's throw down! I'm still young...hell I'm part of the generation you're mentioning.

BlaqueKnight said:

vainandy said:

"Midas Touch" was definately weak. "Engine No. 9" was OK though but not near as strong as their earlier work.

I throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear mention of that damn song. Its hard to believe that the same guys that did No Parking On The Dance Floor and Freakizoid are responsible for that "I wanna be rich" and Midas Touch" garbage.

Exactly. The Calloways selling out musically is rank just as high as Ronald Isley doing a Mr. Bigg for R.Kelly!

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TonyVanDam said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear mention of that damn song. Its hard to believe that the same guys that did No Parking On The Dance Floor and Freakizoid are responsible for that "I wanna be rich" and Midas Touch" garbage.

Exactly. The Calloways selling out musically is rank just as high as Ronald Isley doing a Mr. Bigg for R.Kelly!

The brothers shortly left the group after that abum, to release about 2 albums as a duo.

A decade later they perform live as Bootsy's hornsection on his album "Keep The Funk Alive in '95", lol.

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vainandy said:

BlaqueKnight said:

I throw up a little in my mouth every time I hear mention of that damn song. Its hard to believe that the same guys that did No Parking On The Dance Floor and Freakizoid are responsible for that "I wanna be rich" and Midas Touch" garbage.

I absolutely hated "I Wanna Be Rich". I had no idea they used to be in Midnight Star. Today is the day I found that out.

I throw up even more though when I think that Babyface used to be in a bad ass group like The Deele making jams like "Body Talk" and "Material Thangz". He said his band members use to laugh at the stuff he wanted to contribute and called it waterfall music. Little did any of the world know back then that weak shit was going to be what took over and refused to leave because we were jamming so hard in those days. I just find it rediculous that the world has gone backwards to the days of all slow music like the old classical music days instead of going forward, continueing with, and improving jams that would be so funky that you would fall out from exaustion from shaking ass. It's just not fair that these damn youngsters have the taste of senior citizens and have ruined things for the older folks that like to party! It's the 2000s, we're supposed to be throwing down! What the fuck is wrong with these motherfuckers!

I was always happy for Babyface's success as a producer & songwriter. But even today, I'm disappointed that he abandon The Deele's synth-funk sound in the process. In that sense, Babyface is like Lionel Ritchie mkII.

Shango said:

TonyVanDam said:

Exactly. The Calloways selling out musically is rank just as high as Ronald Isley doing a Mr. Bigg for R.Kelly!

The brothers shortly left the group after that abum, to release about 2 albums as a duo.

A decade later they perform live as Bootsy's hornsection on his album "Keep The Funk Alive in '95", lol.

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They need to reunite with Midnight Star.

Shango said:

vainandy said:

I believe that mainly counts for r&b + hiphop. The current scene of electro and deephouse release fast grooves that people can throw down to.

I haven't heard no good house in years since it turned into trance and that shit is too fast to dance to. I grew up hanging and partying with the black folks and we shook ass and rolled titties till all hours of the night. All you can do to that trance stuff is hop around like someone on speed hopping on a damn pogo stick. I don't do those "American Bandstand" dances and I sure as hell don't dance like that girl in the Bruce Springsteen video either. I want some ass shaking jams!

Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:

I absolutely hated "I Wanna Be Rich". I had no idea they used to be in Midnight Star. Today is the day I found that out.

I throw up even more though when I think that Babyface used to be in a bad ass group like The Deele making jams like "Body Talk" and "Material Thangz". He said his band members use to laugh at the stuff he wanted to contribute and called it waterfall music. Little did any of the world know back then that weak shit was going to be what took over and refused to leave because we were jamming so hard in those days. I just find it rediculous that the world has gone backwards to the days of all slow music like the old classical music days instead of going forward, continueing with, and improving jams that would be so funky that you would fall out from exaustion from shaking ass. It's just not fair that these damn youngsters have the taste of senior citizens and have ruined things for the older folks that like to party! It's the 2000s, we're supposed to be throwing down! What the fuck is wrong with these motherfuckers!

Technically it's the 2010s...like that makes any difference. But yeah let's throw down! I'm still young...hell I'm part of the generation you're mentioning.

Yeah but see, you've got thick dark hairs on your dick. Apparently the rest of these young motherfuckers must have thinning gray hairs on their dick to match their taste of music. That's why they keep shaving their dicks.

vainandy said:

Timmy84 said:

Technically it's the 2010s...like that makes any difference. But yeah let's throw down! I'm still young...hell I'm part of the generation you're mentioning.

Yeah but see, you've got thick dark hairs on your dick. Apparently the rest of these young motherfuckers must have thinning gray hairs on their dick to match their taste of music. That's why they keep shaving their dicks.

MrSoulpower said:

Funk is dead?

Are you kidding me? :loll:

Funk has never left ... In fact, today, there are more Funk bands out there than ever before. Between '67 and '71, the most productive era in Funk, was an American phenomena. Very few groups outside of the U.S. were hip to Funk.

But today, because of the internet and globalization, the Funk scene went global. It's a tight knit network of DJs, record collectors, producers and - yes - artists. Today, there are groups in Norway, Sweden, Germany, France, Japan, Australia and even Israel and Russia that play Funk, record Funk and release Funk records. Funk is more alive and kickin' on a global scale than it was ever before.

Y'all are making the mistake to look for Funk in mainstream music. But Funk isn't mainstream .. or it wouldn't be called Funk. This music has always been underground .. most Funk artists never broke into the mainstream, most made only a few records that were sold only on a local level.

When a few Funk groups broke into the mainstream in the early to mid-1970s, the climax of the pioneer days of Funk were long over. Most Funk records were recorded and released in the late 1960s, not the mid-to 1970s or 1980s.

So don't look in the mainstream, because once it's mainstream, it's usually not Funk. Some new Funk artists still enjoy mainstream success - like Sharon Jones & The Dap-Kings, who charted at #15 on Billboard with their new album in April. Even though this was more of a Soul album, make no mistake. This band is a Funk band.

If you want Funk, look in the underground, where it has always been and where it belongs. And you'll find that Funk is very much alive today. In fact, as a Funk DJ, I can hardly keep up with new releases. There is so much new music that Funk DJs can't even play all of it.

The voice of reason. Everyone please, step back from the ledge.

Everything has it's time an place, it's just like those who claim classical, jazz, blues or whatever lost it's audience , is dying, or dead. It's all relative.

As MrSoooulpower mentioned you can't look toward the mainstream radio/media. As much as I love the options of listening to what I want when I want via the cable, the net, Pod-cast, and satellite radio, the problem arise finding "the music" can be like searching for a needle in a hay stack. As with cable TV the umpteen options have stratified listening audience choices, once upon a time to some degree radio and later TV could defined, shaped and marketed music to the masses.

Couple this with mainstream record and radio conglomerate who've narrowly targeted their listening audience and the type of music that's being heard, I doubt Funk music could garner the prominence it once had. Is good music still being made yes in all genres, it's just finding an audience and being able to build on a large fan base because of the options the listeners have impart that seems to be part of the challenge. Just as it's a challenge for the music lover to find artist, music, and bands.

vainandy said:

Roger had a funky album in the early 1990s also called "Bridging The Gap". I heard the single "Everybody Get Up" maybe three of four times on black radio and that was all.

I love this album. It has some serious jams like "You Should Be Mine", which is up there with the funkiest stuff Roger ever recorded, IMO.

As for the single - "Everybody Get Up" - wasn't there a remix version of this with EPMD on it? I seem to remember seeing the video. But that version isn't on the album.