Music - Harlod Arlen

Lyrics- Ira Gershwin

Of course Mr. Arlen songs, "Over The Rainbow" & "The Man That Got Away" served as bookends to Ms. Garland career.

The whole "Born in a Trunk" skit TO ME is one of the best musicals caught on film. EVER.

I remember watching a George Cukor interview where he was asked why he was tough on Judy during the whole filming of that movie, he said had he not been rough on her, 3/4 of Warner Bros budget would've been wasted along with her reputation,,,,it was already a gamble working with her at that point, being reckless and all.

I thought that this song was used to great effect in an episode of the Gilmore Girls.

Harlepolis said:

The whole "Born in a Trunk" skit TO ME is one of the best musicals caught on film. EVER.

I remember watching a George Cukor interview where he was asked why he was tough on Judy during the whole filming of that movie, he said had he not been rough on her, 3/4 of Warner Bros budget would've been wasted along with her reputation,,,,it was already a gamble working with her at that point, being reckless and all.

Warner Bros. executives are generational assholes, this must be a prerequisite to getting a job there: "they" along with the Hollywood machine, and with Ms. Garland's mother consent picked at that woman until there was nothing left but a shell. Garland was a fragile soul from the start.

TD3 said:

Harlepolis said:

The whole "Born in a Trunk" skit TO ME is one of the best musicals caught on film. EVER.

I remember watching a George Cukor interview where he was asked why he was tough on Judy during the whole filming of that movie, he said had he not been rough on her, 3/4 of Warner Bros budget would've been wasted along with her reputation,,,,it was already a gamble working with her at that point, being reckless and all.

Warner Bros. executives are generational assholes, this must be a prerequisite to getting a job there: "they" along with the Hollywood machine, and with Ms. Garland's mother consent picked at that woman until there was nothing left but a shell. Garland was a fragile soul from the start.

Joan Crowford said that she worked with B. Mayor and Warner, one was beautiful the other was a stinker, B. Mayor was beautiful

Its no wonder why Bette Davis developed this "bitchy" reputation,,,,,had she openly wore her heart on her sleeve(like Judy did) Warner would've let the birds pick from her flesh. Those guys were street hustlers though, they didn't know how to treat a talent but in their defence they also had alot on their plate, and being tough was the only way they knew to rule that ship.

I wish the filmmaker of "Valley Of The Dolls" took a chance on Judy instead of giving that role to Susan Hayward, not that I blame them. Judy's audition tape was a heartbreaking thing to watch.

But consider the posibilities, that role would've given Judy her comeback and an ego boost to match.

It takes Bettie Davis to talk about Jack Warner, like a dog. That's why Davis acted as she did, good for her. What did Ms. Davis tell Ellen Burstyn once, 'How do you spot an enemy? Anyone who's trying to prevent you from doing your work, confront them and tell them, you are my enemy.....'

As my mother said, The problem with Garland and Monroe, they should've learned how to cuss and make you think they could and would kick yo' ass.

TD3 said:

It takes Bettie Davis to talk about Jack Warner, like a dog. That's why Davis acted as she did, good for her. What did Ms. Davis tell Ellen Burstyn once, 'How do you spot an enemy? Anyone who's trying to prevent you from doing your work, confront them and tell them, you are my enemy.....'

As my mother said, The problem with Garland and Monroe, they should've learned how to cuss and make you think they could and would kick yo' ass.

Its a fuckin' shame that folks had to resort to defence mechanism in order to do the work, properly.

Your mother's statement reminded me of what Candi Staton said, "I'm a good country wholesome girl, still am. But they had me acting like a back alley bitch so folks wouldn't take the food right out of my child's plate".

And its no wonder why Ms.Burstyn did most of her work with independent filmmakers as opposed to deal with the headache of those big production companies. Its pretty evident that she took Bette's quote to heart judging from her work.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...3rGOj3YCIE

Same wonderful song - different view point

HoneyB said:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...3rGOj3YCIE

Same wonderful song - different view point

Great rendition!

I've been meaning to check out this set myself...

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Great song! Although I no longer agree with longing after losers! LOL I love Judy's version of it but here is another good one:

Judy and Barbra together--just for the heck of it!

Harlepolis said:

The whole "Born in a Trunk" skit TO ME is one of the best musicals caught on film. EVER.

I remember watching a George Cukor interview where he was asked why he was tough on Judy during the whole filming of that movie, he said had he not been rough on her, 3/4 of Warner Bros budget would've been wasted along with her reputation,,,,it was already a gamble working with her at that point, being reckless and all.

Cukor worked well with strong, independent women, but when it came to fragile women who needed encouragement rather than bullying - like Judy or, later, Marilyn Monroe (in Let's Make Love and her final, unfinished film, Something's Got to Give), Cukor was a disastrous influence and a tyrant on the set.

Harlepolis said:

Great rendition!

I've been meaning to check out this set myself...

If you've not listened to this yet you should - check out his version of Do It Again. The DVD of the concert is wonderful also. I'm a huge fan of Rufus W and although this might sound strange I find a lot of similarities with Prince.

^^^the only similarities I see is a knack for overindulgence in their art.

sosgemini said:

^^^the only similarities I see is a knack for overindulgence in their art.

Miles Davis was "overly self indulgent". Yet, the same folks who accused him of such are singing his praises now. I

I'm not comparing, just making a point here. In this day & age with lil' or no individuality left, we need a lil' "self indulgence" induced here & there.

Harlepolis said:

sosgemini said:

^^^the only similarities I see is a knack for overindulgence in their art.

Miles Davis was "overly self indulgent". Yet, the same folks who accused him of such are singing his praises now. I

I'm not comparing, just making a point here. In this day & age with lil' or no individuality left, we need a lil' "self indulgence" induced here & there.

With Prince, it worked up until about a decade ago. With Rufus, it works in small doses at the start of his career but now he's just on overkill, IMHO.

Never thought of it as over indulgence, although I agree that the similarity is with the younger Prince.

A supreme confidence in their own abilities and a fearlessness that allows them to march to their own drummer is very appealing to me. The bonus, of course, is that they both produce music that can uplift my spirits and reduce me to tears. It's such a shame that Prince lost that fearlessness. I find it so sad that although he is still on his own path under his own terms, he's lost that excitement for me. It won't stop me always being curious about what he does. There's always hope.

sosgemini said:

Harlepolis said:

Miles Davis was "overly self indulgent". Yet, the same folks who accused him of such are singing his praises now. I

I'm not comparing, just making a point here. In this day & age with lil' or no individuality left, we need a lil' "self indulgence" induced here & there.

With Prince, it worked up until about a decade ago. With Rufus, it works in small doses at the start of his career but now he's just on overkill, IMHO.

I agree. I liked Rufus' early stuff ok but his new stuff doesn't move me in any way.