I just picked up this cd set by Slave which contains all of it's albums. Does anyone know if this was remastered? There is no info accompaning the set but it sounds great on my system.

http://www.amazon.com/s/r...amp;fsc=-1

I saw this set when it hit the stores several months ago. Unfortunately, I don't believe it's been remastered (and I think they missed a great opportunity). I really wanted the "Detroit Spinners" and "Bootsy's Rubber Band" sets from the Original Album Series also, but they don't appear to have been remastered either. I'm hoping sooner than later that the record companies re-releasing these classics get the message: GET THOSE MASTER TAPES & REMASTER THESE JOINTS!

I have been meaning to pick this up purely for "Just A Touch Of Love" as I dont have a hard copy on cd.

Its a shame they have not remastered these albums but still well worth picking up.

Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking that remastering means it sounds better. It rarely does. 99% of re-issues sound worse than the original non-compressed to hell versions. It is the industry trying to flog you what you already have again. Why fall for it?

Mong said:

Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking that remastering means it sounds better. It rarely does. 99% of re-issues sound worse than the original non-compressed to hell versions. It is the industry trying to flog you what you already have again. Why fall for it?

Eh, sometimes that is true but it is also true that sometimes a remastered album sounds much better, particularly remasters that were done before the loudness wars. For example, the remasters of The Byrds that were released in the mid '90s sound much better than original cd versions.

Mong said:

Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking that remastering means it sounds better. It rarely does. 99% of re-issues sound worse than the original non-compressed to hell versions. It is the industry trying to flog you what you already have again. Why fall for it?

All "remastering" is certainly not the same, and the "remastered" title alone is not enough to sell me. But when the process is handled properly, and from the original master tapes, the outcome can be fantastic. A few recent examples of remastered works that I purchased and have been delighted with are: ConFunkShun: "Loveshine/Candy", Heatwave: "Too Hot To Handle/Central Heating", Rick James: "Garden of Love" and "Fire It Up", and they each sound exceptionally better than the original recordings, excellent instrumentation separation. And the recent remastering of the entire Beatles catalog was just a masterpiece!

Moreover, not only is the remastering from the master tapes of utmost importance to me, it's also important to me that the process is being handled by a skilled technician that knows what he's doing.

Because I've also picked up a remastered project or two recently that fell short of my expectations, and indeed sounded "compressed to Hell": Odyssey just recently released a remastered version of their "Native New Yorker" album which in my opinion was a disappointment. And we all know how "remastered" Prince's "Ultimate" was. These examples taught me that certainly all remasters are not equal, and it's important to do your homework regarding the remastering process before making a purchase.

So, when you say that 99% of re-issues sound worse than the original, is it that you've listened to every re-issue ever produced to come up with your figure, or exactly how DID you come up with 99% anyway? Because personally, I find that number to be woefully inaccurate. Or is it that you're just into making provocative "brainwashed" accusatons in an attempt to lure the unsuspecting under your bridge?

Enlighten us with your wisdom.

Graycap23 said:

I just picked up this cd set by Slave which contains all of it's albums. Does anyone know if this was remastered? There is no info accompaning the set but it sounds great on my system.

http://www.amazon.com/s/r...amp;fsc=-1

This looks like a great set,but it's missing their 1981 'Showtime' album.

SoulAlive said:

Graycap23 said:

I just picked up this cd set by Slave which contains all of it's albums. Does anyone know if this was remastered? There is no info accompaning the set but it sounds great on my system.

http://www.amazon.com/s/r...amp;fsc=-1

This looks like a great set,but it's missing their 1981 'Showtime' album.

It's missing more than that. "all"? Hardly. Only excluded about 10 more albums (some essential).

JamFanHot said:

SoulAlive said:

This looks like a great set,but it's missing their 1981 'Showtime' album.

It's missing more than that. "all"? Hardly. Only excluded about 10 more albums (some essential).

After listening this weekend.......I knew something was missing. Thanks.

JamFanHot said:

SoulAlive said:

This looks like a great set,but it's missing their 1981 'Showtime' album.

It's missing more than that. "all"? Hardly. Only excluded about 10 more albums (some essential).

Yeah,I'm surprised they left out 'Showtime'.That was one of their most successful albums,with the major hit "Snap Shot".

SoulAlive said:

JamFanHot said:

It's missing more than that. "all"? Hardly. Only excluded about 10 more albums (some essential).

Yeah,I'm surprised they left out 'Showtime'.That was one of their most successful albums,with the major hit "Snap Shot".

Lol.....time 4 me 2 go back 2 the vinyl.

Graycap23 said:

SoulAlive said:

Yeah,I'm surprised they left out 'Showtime'.That was one of their most successful albums,with the major hit "Snap Shot".

Lol.....time 4 me 2 go back 2 the vinyl.

Indeed

let's do a flashback...

80s R&B jam: "SnapShot" by Slave (1981)

[Edited 8/3/10 6:25am]

1977 - Slave (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1977 - Hardness Of The World (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1978 - The Concept (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1979 - Just A Touch Of Love (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1980 - Stone Jam (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1981 - Show Time (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1982 - Vision Of The Lite (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1983 - Bad Enuff (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1984 - New Plateau (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1985 - Unchained At Last (Ichiban)

1987 - Make Believe (Ichiban)

1988 - Slave 88 (Ichiban)

1990 - Rebirth (Ichiban)

1992 - The Funk Strikes Back (Ichiban)

1995 - Masters Of The Fungk (Ichiban)

Shango said:

1977 - Slave (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1977 - Hardness Of The World (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1978 - The Concept (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1979 - Just A Touch Of Love (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1980 - Stone Jam (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1981 - Show Time (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1982 - Vision Of The Lite (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1983 - Bad Enuff (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1984 - New Plateau (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1985 - Unchained At Last (Ichiban)

1987 - Make Believe (Ichiban)

1988 - Slave 88 (Ichiban)

1990 - Rebirth (Ichiban)

1992 - The Funk Strikes Back (Ichiban)

1995 - Masters Of The Fungk (Ichiban)

So they just released the 1st 5. After Arrington left the group.............so did I. Is anything after 1981 any good?

Shango said:

1977 - Slave (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1977 - Hardness Of The World (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1978 - The Concept (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1979 - Just A Touch Of Love (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1980 - Stone Jam (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1981 - Show Time (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1982 - Vision Of The Lite (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1983 - Bad Enuff (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1984 - New Plateau (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1985 - Unchained At Last (Ichiban)

1987 - Make Believe (Ichiban)

1988 - Slave 88 (Ichiban)

1990 - Rebirth (Ichiban)

1992 - The Funk Strikes Back (Ichiban)

1995 - Masters Of The Fungk (Ichiban)

Had NO IDEA Slave released all those albums! I lost track of them after "Show Time".

PDogz said:

Shango said:

1977 - Slave (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1977 - Hardness Of The World (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1978 - The Concept (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1979 - Just A Touch Of Love (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1980 - Stone Jam (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1981 - Show Time (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1982 - Vision Of The Lite (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1983 - Bad Enuff (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1984 - New Plateau (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1985 - Unchained At Last (Ichiban)

1987 - Make Believe (Ichiban)

1988 - Slave 88 (Ichiban)

1990 - Rebirth (Ichiban)

1992 - The Funk Strikes Back (Ichiban)

1995 - Masters Of The Fungk (Ichiban)

Had NO IDEA Slave released all those albums! I lost track of them after "Show Time".

Me either............I thought they were done after Steve left the group.

Graycap23 said:

So they just released the 1st 5. After Arrington left the group.............so did I. Is anything after 1981 any good?

bitz & bopz from various albums are tight

Graycap23 said:

Shango said:

1977 - Slave (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1977 - Hardness Of The World (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1978 - The Concept (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1979 - Just A Touch Of Love (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1980 - Stone Jam (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1981 - Show Time (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1982 - Vision Of The Lite (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1983 - Bad Enuff (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1984 - New Plateau (Cotillion-Atlantic)

1985 - Unchained At Last (Ichiban)

1987 - Make Believe (Ichiban)

1988 - Slave 88 (Ichiban)

1990 - Rebirth (Ichiban)

1992 - The Funk Strikes Back (Ichiban)

1995 - Masters Of The Fungk (Ichiban)

So they just released the 1st 5. After Arrington left the group.............so did I. Is anything after 1981 any good?

Bad Enuff is pretty decent. Shake it Up sounds like classic Slave.

I didn't even here about the Vision of the Lite album prior to the org.

When i went on music hunts in the 80's i would see Slave releases

on the Ichiban label but had already lost touch with Slave and wouldn't

take a chance on those.

phunkdaddy said:

Bad Enuff is pretty decent.

Saw this vinyl on the weekend and didn't pick it up!

Of the "post-Showtime" stuff, I'd say "Visions" (for sure), "Bad Enuff" & "Unchained At Last" are the highlights. The other albums had a single or two each, maybe, that could be considered passable.

Just be prepared....NO there's no Arrington.....and NO....you aren't gonna hear "Slide" over & over. If that's your Slave thang, forget it.

What there IS is AMAZING bass work (esp on Visions & Bad Enuff) and some pretty fierce funk.

If you are having trouble finding any of em...get at me. All of em plus all the 12's are on file here.

PDogz said:

Mong said:

Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking that remastering means it sounds better. It rarely does. 99% of re-issues sound worse than the original non-compressed to hell versions. It is the industry trying to flog you what you already have again. Why fall for it?

All "remastering" is certainly not the same, and the "remastered" title alone is not enough to sell me. But when the process is handled properly, and from the original master tapes, the outcome can be fantastic. A few recent examples of remastered works that I purchased and have been delighted with are: ConFunkShun: "Loveshine/Candy", Heatwave: "Too Hot To Handle/Central Heating"

Thanks for the tip! I was not hip and I love both of those Heatwave & CFS albums.

bobsteezy said:

PDogz said:

All "remastering" is certainly not the same, and the "remastered" title alone is not enough to sell me. But when the process is handled properly, and from the original master tapes, the outcome can be fantastic. A few recent examples of remastered works that I purchased and have been delighted with are: ConFunkShun: "Loveshine/Candy", Heatwave: "Too Hot To Handle/Central Heating"

Thanks for the tip! I was not hip and I love both of those Heatwave & CFS albums.

Oh yeah man, I've been listening to both of them non-stop for like the past 2 months now, lol. They sound so fresh and clean, and the instrumentation is all separated out so cleanly and precisely, you are absolutely hearing music that was in the production all along, that you never actually heard before. And you "catch" instant recall with each new song that come up, lol. As far as "Remasters" are concerned, they hit it square on the head with these two issues.

JamFanHot said:

Of the "post-Showtime" stuff, I'd say "Visions" (for sure), "Bad Enuff" & "Unchained At Last" are the highlights. The other albums had a single or two each, maybe, that could be considered passable.

Just be prepared....NO there's no Arrington.....and NO....you aren't gonna hear "Slide" over & over. If that's your Slave thang, forget it.

What there IS is AMAZING bass work (esp on Visions & Bad Enuff) and some pretty fierce funk.

If you are having trouble finding any of em...get at me. All of em plus all the 12's are on file here.

Whell, ... there's "Slide '88" ... nevertheless, co-to-the-funk-sign

Mong said:

Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking that remastering means it sounds better. It rarely does. 99% of re-issues sound worse than the original non-compressed to hell versions. It is the industry trying to flog you what you already have again. Why fall for it?

Lol........if a true remaster was done on any material and it does NOT sound better, I submit that the person doing the remaster had no idea what he was doing. A remaster that sounds worst defeats the whole point of the process.

I remember ordering these Japanese remasters, and when hearing them ...

No, fuck them!

I've been duped into buying the series work when they released Chaka & Dionne's stuff(despite the conversations that went in here) and I'd rather stick with the copies I already have from Slave, they can keep their scam work to themselves.

Graycap23 said:

Mong said:

Sounds like you've been brainwashed into thinking that remastering means it sounds better. It rarely does. 99% of re-issues sound worse than the original non-compressed to hell versions. It is the industry trying to flog you what you already have again. Why fall for it?

Lol........if a true remaster was done on any material and it does NOT sound better, I submit that the person doing the remaster had no idea what he was doing. A remaster that sounds worst defeats the whole point of the process.

Unfortanetly,,,that's what happened MANY times these past years and many of us have been duped to think otherwise.

I can't think of many proper remasters aside from Rhino/Hip-O or Legacy's work. I have remasters of GREAT albums that were butchered and so many subtle(yet important) musical moments were omitted, I had to give those CDs away and resort to my old copies(untill I find another copy of mint condition - which I know will put a hole in my pocket).

PDogz said:

bobsteezy said:

Thanks for the tip! I was not hip and I love both of those Heatwave & CFS albums.

Oh yeah man, I've been listening to both of them non-stop for like the past 2 months now, lol. They sound so fresh and clean, and the instrumentation is all separated out so cleanly and precisely, you are absolutely hearing music that was in the production all along, that you never actually heard before. And you "catch" instant recall with each new song that come up, lol. As far as "Remasters" are concerned, they hit it square on the head with these two issues.

I agree with you,those Heatwave remasters are incredible! I'm listening to them right now The sound is so clear and fresh.I'm hearing little things in the instrumentation that I never noticed before.

SoulAlive said:

PDogz said:

Oh yeah man, I've been listening to both of them non-stop for like the past 2 months now, lol. They sound so fresh and clean, and the instrumentation is all separated out so cleanly and precisely, you are absolutely hearing music that was in the production all along, that you never actually heard before. And you "catch" instant recall with each new song that come up, lol. As far as "Remasters" are concerned, they hit it square on the head with these two issues.

I agree with you,those Heatwave remasters are incredible! I'm listening to them right now The sound is so clear and fresh.I'm hearing little things in the instrumentation that I never noticed before.

See what I've been saying?!? I mean... HEAR what I've been saying?!? How 'bout the intro to "Put The Word Out"? You never heard it that prominently before this remastering. I'm still listening to the Heatwave AND ConFunkShun 2fers. THIS is remastering done right!