LittleBLUECorvette said:

Pharrell and Andre 3000 say hi

Love those two, particularly Andre 3000.

Pharrells production style is stuck on Prince's minimalist songs. The funkier songs on 'Sign O Times' and 'Nasty Girl' etc, spring to mind. He owes Prince more than anything. Plus his voice is awful; little more than a nasally wine. And again, where the the memorable songs? Pharrells solo album was touted to be a classic, but was one huge dissapointment. Not one classic or memorable album to his name. I DO like some Pharrell stuff, but I can easily see his limitations. Snoop Dogg for example, did a nice version of 'Cool', but you wouldn't get him trying to handle 'Adore', would you?

Andre 3000 is a brilliant, elcectic Artist, the closest and most relevant mentioned here, I think. Has memorable songs, great songwriting and production, originality, uniqueness. But there places where the comparison is lost, particularly in regard to Prince's rockier material. Plus, there are other comparisons with Andre 3000 anyway such as George Clinton/P-Funk, Bootsy Collins, Sly Stone etc.

OperatingThetan said:

NobodyUknow said:

I believe these Cats are doing better Prince music than Prince himself is doing of late...

1.Van Hunt

2.Maxwell

3.D'Angelo

4.Sam Bostic

5.Justin Timberlake

6.Bilal

7.Robin Thicke

There could be more....

Feel free to add 2 the list or rip mine a new 1.

Bullshit.

D'Angelo has done fuck all in years. Has nowhere near the legacy.

Justin Timberlake, invalidates the whole of your list in my opinion. How you can seriously suggest that this ex-boy-band copy-cat is superior to Prince is beyond me. It is akin to claiming Timbaland is a better producer than Quincy Jones. Or that Madonna is a better guitar-player than Jimi Hendrix.

Robin Thicke and Bilal are so-so. Nothing memorable or amazing.

Maxwell is talented, but here again, is the major fault of your argument; he is brilliant strictly within soul music.

Prince is and never has been a soul singer. His music is much more eclectic. Tell me how many of the Artists above cover the range of styles that Prince does? How many have released an album comparable to 'Sign 'O' Times'.

Are any of those Artists capable of making 'Parade'? 'Around the World in a Day'?

How many of these are multi-instrumentalists? How many albums have they released?

Van Hunt is amazing, the closest to genius, but not really in relation to Prince. Prince is in a different category when properly considering his recording history.

Again, Justin Timberlake? What the fuck ...

Agreed, now listen to my Green Velvet clip and report back.

TonyVanDam said:

NobodyUknow said:

I believe these Cats are doing better Prince music than Prince himself is doing of late...

1.Van Hunt

2.Maxwell

3.D'Angelo

4.Sam Bostic

5.Justin Timberlake

6.Bilal

7.Robin Thicke

There could be more....

Feel free to add 2 the list or rip mine a new 1.

Most of THAT^ is f***ing whack!

THIS is real Prince clone:

The band is Private. The band leader is Thomas Troelsen. He's pretty good in sounding like Prince OR Michael with ease.

That is Brilliant! Thank you for that. Private...

No one emcompasses what Prince can do. Prince's range is absolutely incredible.

At best, you can say that someone now does parts of Prince's career better than he does lately.

Prince the Dancer

Prince the Guitarist

Prince the Soul-Singer

Prince the Pianist

Prince the Percussionist

Prince the Producer

Prince the Composer / Arranger

But no one can wear all of his hats...

[Edited 7/5/10 23:38pm]

Kool...............u take all of them, I'll take Prince.

NobodyUknow said:

I believe these Cats are doing better Prince music than Prince himself is doing of late...

1.Van Hunt

2.Maxwell

3.D'Angelo

4.Sam Bostic

5.Justin Timberlake

6.Bilal

7.Robin Thicke

There could be more....

Feel free to add 2 the list or rip mine a new 1.

Being DERIVATIVE is the easiest thing in the WORLD to do. be original for once. a few talented cats on your list, but see if their quality and longevity measure up. a few songs here and there, an album a couple times a decade does NOT make a career

http://www.youtube.com/wa...I2ncihBpkM

lol

Alasseon said:

No one emcompasses what Prince can do. Prince's range is absolutely incredible.

At best, you can say that someone now does parts of Prince's career better than he does lately.

Prince the Dancer

Prince the Guitarist

Prince the Soul-Singer

Prince the Pianist

Prince the Percussionist

Prince the Producer

Prince the Composer / Arranger

But no one can wear all of his hats...

[Edited 7/5/10 23:38pm]

Especially when Prince stole have the ish from his bandmates early off in the first place?

NobodyUknow said:

I believe these Cats are doing better Prince music than Prince himself is doing of late...

1.Van Hunt

2.Maxwell

3.D'Angelo

4.Sam Bostic

5.Justin Timberlake

6.Bilal

7.Robin Thicke

There could be more....

Feel free to add 2 the list or rip mine a new 1.

paisleypark4 said:

NobodyUknow said:

I believe these Cats are doing better Prince music than Prince himself is doing of late...

1.Van Hunt

2.Maxwell

3.D'Angelo

4.Sam Bostic

5.Justin Timberlake

6.Bilal

7.Robin Thicke

There could be more....

Feel free to add 2 the list or rip mine a new 1.

:falloff:

paisleypark4 said:

paisleypark4 said:

And plus...hardly any of these guys are funky enough to even make a song like 1+1+1=3, Black Sweat, Lolita, Get On The Boat, No More Candy 4 U, Everywhere, Everlasting Now, Love... How..how dare you?

Wait, that's sarcasm, right?

sosgemini said:

paisleypark4 said:

sosgemini said:

Wait, that's sarcasm, right?

Seriously give me something that is funky and maybe I will agree

I already posted an example of an artist making better music than Prince. IMHO, there are tons of artist thriving creatively while Prince is stuck in his same plastic sounding rut. I'm soo over the dudes boring vocals and pristine sound that I didn't purchase last year's album nor will I be getting the new one. The emperor officially has no clothes IMHO.

Neither of the guys are on Prince's level (nobody really is for that matter ) but they're definitely some of my favorite newer bands out there doing some good dance stuff

When Meshell Ndegeocello released "The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams" a couple of years ago, the first thing I thought, was "Prince" (at least in his heyday). The stylistic range, the suredness in trying new things, the creative pulse, all while writing brilliant, memorable songs. The whole package was just mindblowing, IMO.

Of course, I'm a huge Meshell fan and having listened to all of her music, and it would be insulting at this point to say she's "A Better Prince Artist." She's truly her own artist and has earned her own place in my book. But, the whole package of that album completely reminded me what an inspired, creative musician could do, and which, IMO, Prince used to do.

coltrane3 said:

When Meshell Ndegeocello released "The World Has Made Me the Man of My Dreams" a couple of years ago, the first thing I thought, was "Prince" (at least in his heyday). The stylistic range, the suredness in trying new things, the creative pulse, all while writing brilliant, memorable songs. The whole package was just mindblowing, IMO.

Of course, I'm a huge Meshell fan and having listened to all of her music, and it would be insulting at this point to say she's "A Better Prince Artist." She's truly her own artist and has earned her own place in my book. But, the whole package of that album completely reminded me what an inspired, creative musician could do, and which, IMO, Prince used to do.

Good one! And she's never had to wear assless pants to try and be hip.

Nobody can be Prince BUT Prince.

I don't care how many artists you pit next to him, they won't ever do what he did between 1980 and 1987. NO ONE. The music during that seven-year period outmatches anything all those artists today have put out. And I wouldn't consider "Yamaha" something Prince SHOULD do but whatever.

Funny how folks can go there won't be another MJ but swear there's another Prince. NOT. Nobody can be like MJ or Prince so .

I think y'all just saying that because Prince's current output hasn't been nothing but still COME ON!

I'll be loyal to him because of what he did in the '80s. That era of Prince inspired those artists today lol

Those artists aren't making Prince music. They are making their own music. Too bad some are too shortsighted (or short-eared, rather) to get that.

BlaqueKnight said:

Those artists aren't making Prince music. They are making their own music. Too bad some are too shortsighted (or short-eared, rather) to get that.

Or pigeonholed to be "the next someone else". I hate that. No one was saying Prince was trying to be the next Sly Stone or the next Jimi Hendrix or the next James Brown, did they?

BlaqueKnight said:

Those artists aren't making Prince music. They are making their own music. Too bad some are too shortsighted (or short-eared, rather) to get that.

Nahh, I thought it would be a fun question to answer. I don't anyone is taking the question as literal as you and Timmy...

'Tis okay to have some fun every now and then...Cha know.

Timmy84 said:

BlaqueKnight said:

Those artists aren't making Prince music. They are making their own music. Too bad some are too shortsighted (or short-eared, rather) to get that.

Or pigeonholed to be "the next someone else". I hate that. No one was saying Prince was trying to be the next Sly Stone or the next Jimi Hendrix or the next James Brown, did they?

People said it but the Prince fan base tends to take it to the next level. Before Prince.org, I had never seen people actually try to indirectly (and sometimes directly) credit practically every piece of music released since Prince came out to Prince.

Everybody playing western music is playing the same 12 notes. There aren't any new ones. They've all been played before.

Since I dare not post on any other forum on this site, can I just say, "Prince is a tool". There, that's for his insane internet comment.

sosgemini said:

Since I dare not post on any other forum on this site, can I just say, "Prince is a tool". There, that's for his insane internet comment.

I don't take his comment seriously anyway. Hahaha The internet ain't dying boy.

paisleypark4 said:

sosgemini said:

Wait, that's sarcasm, right?

Seriously give me something that is funky and maybe I will agree

Van Hunt - "The Lowest 1 Of My Desires"

I'm at work and can't upload it here but I'd gladly e-mail it to you later on.

BlaqueKnight said:

How about respecting these artists for their own work rather than trying to attribute their musical expressions indirectly to someone else?

Was is disrespectful to attribute Prince's musical expressions to Jimmy,Sly,Stevie,Carlos,Richard,

Smokey,Marvin and others...still to this day?

Perhaps the title should be Prince's Greatest Heirs.

And any such list that does NOT include Me'Shell Ndegeocello is lacking in my book. She's the closest thing we've had to Prince for the balance of her career. Her latest album, Devil's Halo, is good, not great, but The World Has Made Me The Man of My Dreams is brilliant, and her run of albums is as impressive from a creative standpoint as any of the others. Since arriving on the scene (around the same time as D'Angelo and Maxwell), she's made almost as many albums over the same time span as D'Angelo, Maxwell and Van Hunt combined. D'Angelo and Maxwell have coasted by comparison.

Reasonable minds can disagree, but the case can be made for the short-shorn lady out of Southeast's suburbs. We shouldn't discriminate by gender.

BlaqueKnight said:

Timmy84 said:

Or pigeonholed to be "the next someone else". I hate that. No one was saying Prince was trying to be the next Sly Stone or the next Jimi Hendrix or the next James Brown, did they?

People said it but the Prince fan base tends to take it to the next level. Before Prince.org, I had never seen people actually try to indirectly (and sometimes directly) credit practically every piece of music released since Prince came out to Prince.

Every artist is influenced by other artists but ultimately, their work is their own.

Everybody playing western music is playing the same 12 notes. There aren't any new ones. They've all been played before.

I've missed your posts, Blaque.

When I use the mantle "Prince's heirs" I've used it in the sense of taking after him in the sense he took after Jimi, Sly, Stevie, Shuggie, et cetera. I agree with you, but I think to the extent that there were shoes to fill, P filled them after his forbears handed them down. And so he's handed them down.

I give Prince credit because I grew up with many of his forbears' music but connected to him more personally as an 80s teen. But later I went back and listened to the Slys, Stevies, Jimis I'd heard in my youth and gained a new appreciation for i) their respective geniuses, and ii) their influence on Prince's sound. Prince made me appreciate the tradition more as I got older.

And while not reflected by sales, these artists have filled those shoes, collectively, and quite effectively. Prince can't do what Me'Shell does. Or Van. Or Maxwell. Or any other artist one could name.

As much as I love him and think of him as sui generis. Prince represents a tradition of sound that we all can't get enough of and want to see continue. I think that's what some of us mean, anyway.

sosgemini said:

paisleypark4 said:

sosgemini said:

Since I dare not post on any other forum on this site, can I just say, "Prince is a tool". There, that's for his insane internet comment.

Sosgemini...serfiously....I'm talking about funk that was better than princes..not copied from and sound like...its like sayin Ready For the Worlds first album was better than Around the World In a Day ..which it was however forgetting during thus time Prince came with The Dance Electric and She's Always In My Hair. During these past ten years I can pick a handful of one off songs that sound like prince....Private..."we got some breaking up to do". The Dream "yamaha", Justin "futuresex", Keri Hilson "slow dance", Chris Brown "you", Lloyd "street Love", Van Hunt "lowest 1 of my dreams" all come for Prince but can you HONSTLY say thes artists with copycat sounds really embody the sound and the funk? Or making funk like music without actually keeping true to the sound in their artistry and albums produced? If you going to come for Prince come with artists that stick with the sound and not one track album cuts with Prince like sounds...and none of you can put an album and artist that encompass the full mpls sound on a whole album. Gtfo with that ish

My response? You're thinking too hard, undo.

Sorry, it's just not that important a subject for me.