MOL, please drop this already.

It is a tough week, the loss is huge for many of us who adored Michael.

Let's just celebrate, and after June 25th you can resume your arguments.

Thank you.

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sag10 said:

MOL, please drop this already.

It is a tough week, the loss is huge for many of us who adored Michael.

Let's just celebrate, and after June 25th you can resume your arguments.

Thank you.

.

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I'm actually defending him!

Sag is right let's drop it. These bickering sides ain't gonna go nowhere.

dag said:

Here´s another picture.

It is somehow fascinating to watch how every new "peace of Michael" is spreading in the net like wildfire. Every new footage, every article, every peace of news.

Once it appeared, say, in English - half an hour later you will see it in French net, after two hours - also in German, by the end of the day Balkans and Russians will have it too

The smaller communities are fusing, and there are new members almost on daily basis... People just won't let it loose.

One another thing: there is not exactly small amount of people who had converted into MJ's fans DURING his trial. Just "because of it".

I wonder if the man was aware of the amount of power/influence he had... Or, better to say: amount of power he POTENTIALLY had to his lifetime.

*thinking of it*

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greatpink said:

dag said:

Here´s another picture.

It is somehow fascinating to watch how every new "peace of Michael" is spreading in the net like wildfire. Every new footage, every article, every peace of news.

Once it appeared, say, in English - half an hour later you will see it in French net, after two hours - also in German, by the end of the day Balkans and Russians will have it too

The smaller communities are fusing, and there are new members almost on daily basis... People just won't let loose.

One another thing: there is not exactly small amount of people who had converted into MJ's fans DURING his trial. Just "because of it".

I wonder if the man was aware of the amount of power/influence he had... Or, better to say: amount of power he POTENTIALLY had to his lifetime.

*thinking of it*

He probably didn't. And that's what made it more special. This guy was trying to entertain. I bet he didn't even know how touched people were. I knew how ambitious he was but I even think he was taken aback by the praise. You saw how overwhelmed he was when fans kept screaming for him "I LOVE YOU MICHAEL!" That's why he couldn't say much but "I love you more!"

Timmy84 said:

greatpink said:

It is somehow fascinating to watch how every new "peace of Michael" is spreading in the net like wildfire. Every new footage, every article, every peace of news.

Once it appeared, say, in English - half an hour later you will see it in French net, after two hours - also in German, by the end of the day Balkans and Russians will have it too

The smaller communities are fusing, and there are new members almost on daily basis... People just won't let loose.

One another thing: there is not exactly small amount of people who had converted into MJ's fans DURING his trial. Just "because of it".

I wonder if the man was aware of the amount of power/influence he had... Or, better to say: amount of power he POTENTIALLY had to his lifetime.

*thinking of it*

He probably didn't. And that's what made it more special. This guy was trying to entertain. I bet he didn't even know how touched people were. I knew how ambitious he was but I even think he was taken aback by the praise. You saw how overwhelmed he was when fans kept screaming for him "I LOVE YOU MICHAEL!" That's why he couldn't say much but "I love you more!"

True, also.

^

Aww... so cute.... Gawd, I love him so much.......... T_T

I can't believe it's almost been a year since..... that day.

I think I'm going to just stay inside my house and play his music. I don't want to go out... I don't even want to see tributes....

I really pray and hope that Michael has found his peace...

Jermaine's doing an interview with Larry at Forest Lawn on Friday

http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2010/06/23/photo-gallery-jermaine-jackson/#comments

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MOL said:

Reel said:

THE MAN DIED AS A RESULT OF DRUG ABUSE!!!!! If there is no other way to manage insomnia than lethal means leading to DEATH then we have a big big problem on this earth.

That's what you haven't understood, Reel. He didn't die as a result of drug abuse. He died because he wanted to sleep, since he was an insomniac and therefore hired a doctor to put him to sleep safely. One night, the doctor administered 40x more Propofol than he should so Jackson died. His death has absolutely nothing to do with drug addiction. Even if he was an addict, that has nothing to to with his death. And that's what you haven't understood yet. I will be the first one to point the finger at him...when there are reasons to do so. But, it seems, I am the one who is pissing in the wind.

He didn't die as a result of drug addiction, but you are so hard headed that no evidence will ever be enough. Try the "piss on the wind" and the "worshipper" arguments. I imagine you going far in life, shall the sarcasm continue.

mol, you're wasting your time on this person whoever they are. i have been tempted to respond to some of the major inaccuracies born of his/her tabloid lust, but speaking of pissing in the wind...

for every "doctor" chopra, there is tom mesereau or raymone bain or bodyguards who have categorically stated that mj was NOT A DRUG ADDICT (since some of us like to shout). but whatever. just pass over his/her idiotic posts.

Ah... alright. It is almost so far and I'm allowing myself to get emotional.

*pay me no mind*

So...

..."Remember when you were young, you shone like the sun"...

..."(Now there's a look in your eyes, like black holes in the sky),
You were caught on the crossfire of childhood and stardom,
Blown on the steel breeze"...

[Edited 6/23/10 16:46pm]

..."Come on you target for faraway laughter,
Come on you stranger, you legend, you martyr - and shine "

[Edited 6/23/10 16:46pm]

MOL said:

How dare Michael go to a doctor and ask for a prescription drug? How dare Michael take medicaments? Obviously a junkie. Anyone who takes medicaments is (statistics prove 99% of elderly people are). How dare a Luppus patient (Michael's case) ask for narcotics? How dare a guy who is on excrutiating pain 24/7, a sympton of Luppus, ask for painkillers? How?

His children should have been removed from him a LONG time ago. The pedo! He was the only man on Earth who was able to get away with IT. I bet he raped Prince. And Blanket had his days numbered.

I was also operated 3 years ago to the spine. I begged doctors to prescribe painkillers. I'm, obviously, a big junkie as well, right? Damn...I should be locked in Sobral Cid (Portugal'ls equivalent to California 5051)! How dare a person, who is in pain, beg doctors for narcotics? HOW? How dare a person take medicaments? Isn't it obvious that anyone who takes a medicament is a junkie?

How dare a person be an insomniac after 45 years of public scrutiny, humiliation and multiple allegations of child abuse? Facts scream junkie, isn't it Reel?

The loving Jacksons should have put Michael on the line! Joe Jackson just wanted the best for his beloved son...but Michael wouldn't have it!!! I bet the children are now safe with the likes of Randy, Joe, Jermaine, Latoya, Tito and so on near! The ones who just wanted to save Michael are now saving his probably-raped and most-likely-targeted-by-the-pedo children!

Isn't it, Reel? Let's all cheer! The pathological-guy is now dead.

And you're a fan????? How dare you say such garbage about him and his children! And during this difficult time for all of us? I hope to God you're being sarcastic. And if you are, it's in extreme bad taste.

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SherryJackson said:

And you're a fan????? How dare you say such garbage about him and his children! And during this difficult time for all of us? I hope to God you're being sarcastic. And if you are, it's in extreme bad taste.

[Edited 6/23/10 16:56pm]

When I read MOL's post, I knew she was being sarcastic immediately. MOL was retorting against the continuous misjudgment of MJ being a "junkie" with sarcasm. With the tone/words used, I thought that was obvious.

WaterInYourBath said:

SherryJackson said:

And you're a fan????? How dare you say such garbage about him and his children! And during this difficult time for all of us? I hope to God you're being sarcastic. And if you are, it's in extreme bad taste.

[Edited 6/23/10 16:56pm]

When I read MOL's post, I knew she was being sarcastic immediately. MOL was retorting against the continuous misjudgment of MJ being a "junkie" with sarcasm. With the tone/words used, I thought that was obvious.

I knew she was being sarcastic in some instances, in others I didn't. Nevertheless, it was in bad taste to say such horrid things. Even if you're joking. It's hurtful, to both MJ and his children and to the fans that love him dearly.

Michael Jackson tribute energizes Motown shrine

In the days after Michael Jackson’s abrupt death one year ago this week, fans directed much of their attention — and emotion — to Detroit’s Motown Historical Museum.

The footage was replayed around the world: scenes of fans gathered in vigils outside the familiar West Grand Boulevard house, where they placed truckloads of mementos, stuffed animals and letters in Jackson’s name.

Inspired by that outpouring of love for the fallen star, museum officials have reciprocated with a commemoration of their own. On Friday — the anniversary of Jackson’s death at age 50 — they’ll debut an exhibit of Jackson 5 memorabilia celebrating the group’s Motown career.

The exhibit, which will run through October, occupies a large corner on the museum's second floor, where one of Jackson’s famed white gloves has long sat in an alarm-secured glass display. It’s now joined by several groovy Jacksons costumes, a host of gold and platinum records, magazine covers, rare photos and other souvenirs.

Read more:http://www.freep.com/arti...own-shrine-

SherryJackson said:

And you're a fan????? How dare you say such garbage about him and his children! And during this difficult time for all of us? I hope to God you're being sarcastic. And if you are, it's in extreme bad taste.

[Edited 6/23/10 16:56pm]

I was being SARCASTIC! I don't think Michael was a junkie. I don't think he was a pedophile. There's no truth to my post!

I WAS BEING SARCASTIC! Reel said something laughable so I responded in a laughable, sarcastic way!

Don't you say you didn't chuckle with the Blanket's days being numbered thing!

[Edited 6/23/10 17:50pm]

kibbles said:

MOL said:

That's what you haven't understood, Reel. He didn't die as a result of drug abuse. He died because he wanted to sleep, since he was an insomniac and therefore hired a doctor to put him to sleep safely. One night, the doctor administered 40x more Propofol than he should so Jackson died. His death has absolutely nothing to do with drug addiction. Even if he was an addict, that has nothing to to with his death. And that's what you haven't understood yet. I will be the first one to point the finger at him...when there are reasons to do so. But, it seems, I am the one who is pissing in the wind.

He didn't die as a result of drug addiction, but you are so hard headed that no evidence will ever be enough. Try the "piss on the wind" and the "worshipper" arguments. I imagine you going far in life, shall the sarcasm continue.

mol, you're wasting your time on this person whoever they are. i have been tempted to respond to some of the major inaccuracies born of his/her tabloid lust, but speaking of pissing in the wind...

for every "doctor" chopra, there is tom mesereau or raymone bain or bodyguards who have categorically stated that mj was NOT A DRUG ADDICT (since some of us like to shout). but whatever. just pass over his/her idiotic posts.

You're completely right Kibbles, as always.

I ignored Ree-Ree at first, but his lies became unbearable.

Get ready for the "Michael wasn't perfect" and the "worshipper" arguments. And the "he was addicted to Propofol" bogus... even though if he had been addicted to it, he wouldn't even be able to open his eyes.

So, remember: The family does know what it's talking about. Michael was a junkie (Joe, Oxman and Rowe need you to believe this since they need it to sue AEG...and get a big payday). And Michael had a big problem...because DEEPAK CHOPRA SAYS SO!

The funniest thing: Raymone Bain, who was sueing MJ for 44 millions and had no reason to defend him...claimed the drug addict accusations were laughable. The same for Mesereau, Dr. IOnache, Miko Brando...but Deepak KNOWS IT ALL! Be careful: DEEPAK CHOPRA IS WATCHING YOU! AND SO IS JANET JACKSON!

a great blog

http://j5collector.blogspot.com/

bboy87 said:

a great blog

http://j5collector.blogspot.com/

OMG! Thank you!!!!!

Great blog!! I think I found a new site to lurk in... heh heh....

Good way to distract me from all the happenings this week....

Friday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Michael Jackson, and as fans reflect on his life and musical legacy, Bun B says we should preserve his memory by remembering what a remarkable entertainer he was, rather than all that other stuff.

“I just wish that people would leave well enough alone,” Bun said. “It’s still a lot of mess surrounding [his death], it’s a lot of people that are willing to entertain people who are looking for mess. I’m not going to name names, ’cause everybody deals with grief differently. I think they should leave well enough alone. If they want to have one thing a year for Mike, that’s fine — of course, however they choose to honor him [privately is fine]. But I think they just need to let the fans do their thing [in celebrating]. Let that man rest in peace.”

Bun also feels that Michael’s three children should be kept out of the spotlight.

“I think they should definitely pull the kids back,” he said. “Take his children and pull them back. Dude ain’t never want that for his kids. I think that for a life of being misunderstood, and [having]miscommunications and not discussing a lot of what was going on with himself, I think the one thing we could all draw from him was that he didn’t want anybody bothering his children. He didn’t want them to deal with the type of craziness and madness that comes with being in this industry. Unfortunately, it looks like some people want to pull them in this mess for money, which is unfortunate because the estate of Michael Jackson isn’t hurting for no money. A lot of people should leave well enough alone.”

Bun B On Michael Jackson: 'Let That Man Rest In Peace' - News Story | Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV News

I understand everyone will be handling this week in their own way.

For me - this whole month I have been doing status updates of MJ lyrics.

Blasting his music.

And for me that is how I will deal with the anniversary - by celebrating the talent and music.

Swa

bboy87 said:

Friday marks the one-year anniversary of the death of Michael Jackson, and as fans reflect on his life and musical legacy, Bun B says we should preserve his memory by remembering what a remarkable entertainer he was, rather than all that other stuff.

“I just wish that people would leave well enough alone,” Bun said. “It’s still a lot of mess surrounding [his death], it’s a lot of people that are willing to entertain people who are looking for mess. I’m not going to name names, ’cause everybody deals with grief differently. I think they should leave well enough alone. If they want to have one thing a year for Mike, that’s fine — of course, however they choose to honor him [privately is fine]. But I think they just need to let the fans do their thing [in celebrating]. Let that man rest in peace.”

Bun also feels that Michael’s three children should be kept out of the spotlight.

“I think they should definitely pull the kids back,” he said. “Take his children and pull them back. Dude ain’t never want that for his kids. I think that for a life of being misunderstood, and [having]miscommunications and not discussing a lot of what was going on with himself, I think the one thing we could all draw from him was that he didn’t want anybody bothering his children. He didn’t want them to deal with the type of craziness and madness that comes with being in this industry. Unfortunately, it looks like some people want to pull them in this mess for money, which is unfortunate because the estate of Michael Jackson isn’t hurting for no money. A lot of people should leave well enough alone.”

Bun B On Michael Jackson: 'Let That Man Rest In Peace' - News Story | Music, Celebrity, Artist News | MTV News

My thoughts exactly, Bun.

So, the Tinker Bell, Michael Jackson fan, short-film I've been working on is done.

I finished it tonight. It really puts a voice to a lot of what Michael's fans have been

feeling and I hope it helps the fans grieve this huge loss, one year later.

Anyway, I was curious, given my goal of being it being helpful for fans, as something

soothing to watching, during this sensitive time, would it be better to have it out

one day before June 25th? or on June 25th?

Anyone have thoughts?

bboy87 said:

Reel said:

But I'm saying when the labs come back positive for Profotol (spelling), and you have Depack Chopra as well as other respected physicians and nurses state publically that Michael begged them to write or administer intensive Narcotics. How can you turn away from that knowledge? Michael reportedly owed a pharmacy a heavy grip of money. I think SOME members of his family, and his fans are still in denial. That although Michael was not your typical junkie on the corner, he was still a junkie. Do you know what happens when you build up a tolerance to prescription pain killers and sedatives.....you have INSOMNIA..take this from someone who suffered from chronic pain for 2 years pre surgery. Luckily I live in a State where I was able to Legally Remedy my situation with lets say NATURAL substances, and then i finally had sugery and im all better now. But that insomnia is no joke, and because he was surrounded by "yes men" he was not rehabilitated. I believe exactly what was reported by the media happened. He hired a damned Quack who administered surgical grade anesthesia for a junkie, and he carelessly overdosed Michael. He should do jail time. But as far as intentionally murdering him. Hell no!

But at the same time, this was man who not only suffered insomnia, but had lupus and from the autopsy said, minor arthiritus, inflammed lungs, and an enlarged prostate, and you have to remember, they didn't find any narcotics...

And Michael had insomnia way before he began using prescription drugs. I don't believe he was someone who was some junkie demanding drugs, but someone who because he had a history with addiction, was taken advantage of by a series of people. I'm not gonna take the media's or Murray's word for anything right now until the trial is over and done with

Drug addict or not, Michael died because negligence

That's just my opinion, though

But come on, ya'll, let's not dwell on all this. Let's celebrate Michael

I respect you Bboy, but I just can't igore Depak Chopra. And besides, Michael looked high in that Bashir documentary when he was sitting there next to that little lying spawn from hell defending why he felt it was ok to "share his bed with kids". He also looked and acted high when he jumped his ass on that damned SUV and started dancing in the middle of that molestation trial. Randy or Jermaine should have yelled "Michael get yo ass off that SUV right now and stop acting crazy".

Hey, I really am a Michael fan. I just kind of see things a little more balanced than the average fan. And I know what addiction looks and sounds like. Ok I'm done now. I think Murray should go to jail eventhough he was asked to do what he did.

Reel said:

bboy87 said:

But at the same time, this was man who not only suffered insomnia, but had lupus and from the autopsy said, minor arthiritus, inflammed lungs, and an enlarged prostate, and you have to remember, they didn't find any narcotics...

And Michael had insomnia way before he began using prescription drugs. I don't believe he was someone who was some junkie demanding drugs, but someone who because he had a history with addiction, was taken advantage of by a series of people. I'm not gonna take the media's or Murray's word for anything right now until the trial is over and done with

Drug addict or not, Michael died because negligence

That's just my opinion, though

But come on, ya'll, let's not dwell on all this. Let's celebrate Michael

I respect you Bboy, but I just can't igore Depak Chopra. And besides, Michael looked high in that Bashir documentary when he was sitting there next to that little lying spawn from hell defending why he felt it was ok to "share his bed with kids". He also looked and acted high when he jumped his ass on that damned SUV and started dancing in the middle of that molestation trial. Randy or Jermaine should have yelled "Michael get yo ass off that SUV right now and stop acting crazy".

Hey, I really am a Michael fan. I just kind of see things a little more balanced than the average fan. And I know what addiction looks and sounds like. Ok I'm done now. I think Murray should go to jail eventhough he was asked to do what he did.

You just don't learn...

For the 100th time, you assume he was addicted to Propofol and that he hired the doctor in order to feed his "addiction". The worst blind is the one who doesn't want to see.

You're either trying to get attention from other MJ fans or you are really that disabled.

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kibbles said:

MOL said:

That's what you haven't understood, Reel. He didn't die as a result of drug abuse. He died because he wanted to sleep, since he was an insomniac and therefore hired a doctor to put him to sleep safely. One night, the doctor administered 40x more Propofol than he should so Jackson died. His death has absolutely nothing to do with drug addiction. Even if he was an addict, that has nothing to to with his death. And that's what you haven't understood yet. I will be the first one to point the finger at him...when there are reasons to do so. But, it seems, I am the one who is pissing in the wind.

He didn't die as a result of drug addiction, but you are so hard headed that no evidence will ever be enough. Try the "piss on the wind" and the "worshipper" arguments. I imagine you going far in life, shall the sarcasm continue.

mol, you're wasting your time on this person whoever they are. i have been tempted to respond to some of the major inaccuracies born of his/her tabloid lust, but speaking of pissing in the wind...

for every "doctor" chopra, there is tom mesereau or raymone bain or bodyguards who have categorically stated that mj was NOT A DRUG ADDICT (since some of us like to shout). but whatever. just pass over his/her idiotic posts.

Why would Michael ask a BODYGUARD to write a prescription for him? That's crazy. I wouldn't take the word of a body guard regarding a prescription. Depak is a well respected Dr. who Michael chose to terminate their friendship because he would not write Michael prescription for pain meds. Unlike Murray, Depak was able to say NO, and live with those consequences. The bottom line is none of us were there. Michaels death just as his life will always be filled with speculation and cynicism, and mystery. You choose to believe bits and pieces of what you read and hear, just as I am doing the same. Also I believe the family when they stated that there was an attempted intervention.

Reel said:

bboy87 said:

But at the same time, this was man who not only suffered insomnia, but had lupus and from the autopsy said, minor arthiritus, inflammed lungs, and an enlarged prostate, and you have to remember, they didn't find any narcotics...

And Michael had insomnia way before he began using prescription drugs. I don't believe he was someone who was some junkie demanding drugs, but someone who because he had a history with addiction, was taken advantage of by a series of people. I'm not gonna take the media's or Murray's word for anything right now until the trial is over and done with

Drug addict or not, Michael died because negligence

That's just my opinion, though

But come on, ya'll, let's not dwell on all this. Let's celebrate Michael

I respect you Bboy, but I just can't igore Depak Chopra. And besides, Michael looked high in that Bashir documentary when he was sitting there next to that little lying spawn from hell defending why he felt it was ok to "share his bed with kids". He also looked and acted high when he jumped his ass on that damned SUV and started dancing in the middle of that molestation trial. Randy or Jermaine should have yelled "Michael get yo ass off that SUV right now and stop acting crazy".

Hey, I really am a Michael fan. I just kind of see things a little more balanced than the average fan. And I know what addiction looks and sounds like. Ok I'm done now. I think Murray should go to jail eventhough he was asked to do what he did.

But that was Michael That's how he always acted. There's a 1983 mock interview he did where he was completely in character lol

I have respect for Deepak to some extent but the way he was popping up everywhere for interviews about how

1. Michael begged him for drugs

2. he helped Michael write some of his biggest hits (say whaaaa? )

and when his son said the same thing about the songs and how Michael called him asking for advice on how to "give it" to Lisa Marie, alot of people were skeptical of their statements

I get what your saying, but at the same time, if he was addicted, there were people all around him taking advantage of it and that is becoming more obvious with each day. Murray is a piece of work because he's changed his story at least twice and now he's saying he didn't kill Michael

Alright, let's put it all to side... This is about celebrating Michael

I'm pissing in the wind here. Michael was not an addict he had this miraculous case of killer insomnia that just crept up on him for no apparant reason. And he needed anesthesia to beat it. Nope...nothing suspicious there on Michaels part. He was an innocent victim in this all.

Now with that said. I will just stay tuned for whatever memorials that they have for him. I think this whole estate thing is a mess. Kinda wish there were no kids, no estate, lots of folks getting rich off of Michael in his death. Just as they were in his life.