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Reply #60 posted 06/20/10 1:54pm

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thatruth said:

OperatingThetan said:

I believe Suge Knight killed 2PAC and ordered the hit. There are several lines of evidence pointing toward this, plus official legal documents. Google it and you'll find credible sources within the crap. These are just some of the lines of evidence pointing toward Suge:

2PAC had delivered his third album and was preparing to leave Death Row. A legal letter had been sent to that effect. On 2PAC's death certificate he is listed as an employee of 'Euthanasia', not Death Row.

2PAC was on the verge of discovering he had been conned out of $9 million while at Death Row. His actual holdings were very little. His cars were leased. His profits were going towards maintaining Suge Knight and associates lifestyle. In one incident, funds from 2PAC were used to pay for Nate Doggs child support. Before his death he discovered his likeness was being used on merchandise without his reimbursment. His legal rep was investigating further.

As there were tensions between 'PAC and Death Row and he intended to leave, 2PAC attempted to get some recordings from an all-night session. He was blocked from Death Row studios and given legal notice by I believe Kenner, a legal rep of Death Row.

2PAC did not want to go to Vegas on the night of the shooting. However, he had promised Suge he would attend and when 'PAC attempted to cancel and see to a family matter instead, Suge insisted. 2PAC reluctantly attended, a decision which would lead to his death. The reasons why he attended to during a volatile situation is unknown. But Suge had said that he and 'PAC had things to 'discuss'. Likely 2PAC felt he could come to a resolution with Suge.

There are allegations that Suge suggested 'PAC remove his bullet-proof vest due to the 'heat'. Perhaps 'PAC took it off by his own volition, perhaps not. Yet again, the visit to Vegas plus the lack of vest lead to 2PAC's death. None of the bullets were head-shots. All lethal wounds were to 2PAC's torso.

Alegedly, Suge insisted 'PAC ride in his vehicle rather than his own. Again, 2PAC's decision to ride in the car lead to his death. This is the third such 'coincidence' pointing to Suge.

Depending on the witnesses it has been suggested that upon seeing the gun-men 2PAC attempted to jump into the back of the vehicle. It has been claimed that Suge held him in position for the shooters. Regardless, he was in the rear of the vehicle when he was attended to by paramedics.

Suge claimed to have been 'shot in the head'. However, he had only sustained a surface wound. Clearly, the assailants had trained their guns on 2PAC.

Suge u-turned (perhaps sensible to escape the assasins) but then continued to drive by a number of hospitals with blown tires until apprehended by the police. During this critical period 2PAC suffered major blood loss.

Suge refused to co-operate in 2PAC's murder investigation, despite being the closest to the shooter. The only member of the Outlawz (Kadafi I believe) willing to help the police was shot dead in the back of the head shortly after. Here, I am aware of the 'code of silence' but it appears Suge made little or no attempt to exact retribution.

Orlando has been suggested due to the lobby altercation, but it was Suge who pointed Orlando out. After the beating Orlando is seen relaxed and laughing on CCTV.

It is likely Suge felt he could profit from 2PAC's recordings released posthumously. This certainly explains his reluctance to hand them over. For better or worse (in terms of remixing and alterations) Afeni Shakur managed to secure the recordings, but it is unlikely that this possibilty had entered Suge's mind at the time of the shooting.

Biggie was murdered after suggesting a retaliation or giving credence to it. Note the location of Biggie's hit. Certain investigators traced the murder vehicle back to Suge, but Suge had Police force on his payroll and these had involved themselves with Suge and Death Row at the time. Police moonlighting had often been part of 'PACs security detail. Bribery was rife. Suge probably would have had enough evidence to cost these officers their jobs. Enough to get a murder investigation obstructed.

Note that the hit was specifically on Biggie not Puff Daddy or any of the attending Death Row entourage. The exact same set of circumstances apply to 'PAC's murder even down to the method, means and circumstances.

I hate to say this because I don't like Suge myself, but he's now used as a scapegoat. Suge didn't order the hit but he knows who did.

Pac had issues with Death Row and Interscope because he assumed that this was a 100% Black-owned company, or he thought that this was a record company in which Blacks had some control and power.

He was sadly mistaken.

Death Row was started by Dick Griffey (Solar Records), Harry-O (an incarcerated black gangster from LA) and his defense attorney David Kenner, Dre and Suge.

Dre and Suge took Griffey's name off as a partner and co-signed a deal with Interscope. (Big Mistake)

David Kenner was a well-connected criminal attorney and he got Harry-O's percentage of the company.

Dre wanted out, but he signed contracts in which he had to sign over his masters if he wanted to leave.

Suge and Kenner handled the business and fiances (they made the money along with Interscope)

Artists on Death Row signed bad contracts, but what had Pac different from the others was that he was working around the clock, he filled his quota for the company.

Pac wanted Suge to completely independent, Suge was probably down but he was so caught up in the fame, money, power, women, etc., he wasn't focused like Pac.

Pac had a vision for Death Row to be independent, Death Row East, film company, Pac's own label and artist, management, night club, clothing line, alcohol company, etc. (Sounds familiar)

Suge signed contracts that made him "a partner" with Kenner and Interscope, he was rich but he didn't have any power (Suge only thought he had power).

So for him to kill Pac would only hurt him instead of help him, that's why I believe Suge didn't order anything. Who did? Follow the money.

[Edited 6/20/10 11:57am]

Who ordered the hit on 2pac?

A very small team of rogue Freemasons & occultists killed 2pac under the direct order of a pro-Zionist.

And why was 2pac killed?

1. By doing a tell all on Dr. Dre's bisexuality & Quincy Jones' bisexuality on a down low, 2pac "broke the oath".

2. And to make matters worse, 2pac was speaking out against The Illuminati, the very same group of elitists responsible for the corruption of entertainments (counting the music industry), politics, & religions.

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Reply #61 posted 06/20/10 2:23pm

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On the topic of Diddy, I definitely wouldn't put it past him to have set it up. He's always given off a shady vibe

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Reply #62 posted 06/20/10 2:25pm

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TonyVanDam said:

thatruth said:

I hate to say this because I don't like Suge myself, but he's now used as a scapegoat. Suge didn't order the hit but he knows who did.

Pac had issues with Death Row and Interscope because he assumed that this was a 100% Black-owned company, or he thought that this was a record company in which Blacks had some control and power.

He was sadly mistaken.

Death Row was started by Dick Griffey (Solar Records), Harry-O (an incarcerated black gangster from LA) and his defense attorney David Kenner, Dre and Suge.

Dre and Suge took Griffey's name off as a partner and co-signed a deal with Interscope. (Big Mistake)

David Kenner was a well-connected criminal attorney and he got Harry-O's percentage of the company.

Dre wanted out, but he signed contracts in which he had to sign over his masters if he wanted to leave.

Suge and Kenner handled the business and fiances (they made the money along with Interscope)

Artists on Death Row signed bad contracts, but what had Pac different from the others was that he was working around the clock, he filled his quota for the company.

Pac wanted Suge to completely independent, Suge was probably down but he was so caught up in the fame, money, power, women, etc., he wasn't focused like Pac.

Pac had a vision for Death Row to be independent, Death Row East, film company, Pac's own label and artist, management, night club, clothing line, alcohol company, etc. (Sounds familiar)

Suge signed contracts that made him "a partner" with Kenner and Interscope, he was rich but he didn't have any power (Suge only thought he had power).

So for him to kill Pac would only hurt him instead of help him, that's why I believe Suge didn't order anything. Who did? Follow the money.

[Edited 6/20/10 11:57am]

Who ordered the hit on 2pac?

A very small team of rogue Freemasons & occultists killed 2pac under the direct order of a pro-Zionist.

And why was 2pac killed?

1. By doing a tell all on Dr. Dre's bisexuality & Quincy Jones' bisexuality on a down low, 2pac "broke the oath".

2. And to make matters worse, 2pac was speaking out against The Illuminati, the very same group of elitists responsible for the corruption of entertainments (counting the music industry), politics, & religions.

The Illuminati are the unseen, there are no names, there are no paper trials but you're on the right track.

But for those who can't get down with the Illuminati story, do yourself a favor. If you (the fans) want names and faces, get off of Suge Knight tip because that's a dead end, and please don't mention Puffy, Bad Boy or Biggie Smalls because you're a damn fool if you believe they were involved.

Start with David Kenner, he bailed out Tupac, not Suge Knight. Knight was just trying to help Pac get out of jail some way just like Madonna put money up for Tupac's bail. Kenner worked a deal with NY State of Corrections, Suge couldn't do that.

Tupac already had attorneys while in jail working on his appeal, they were unsuccessful, as part of the deal, he had to fire his attorneys and be represented by Kenner as a lawyer.

Pac fired Kenner as a lawyer but kept Suge as his manager, now, what does that tell you? He didn't trust Kenner, he was trying to help Suge see the light but he was too deaf, dumb and blind.

Kenner knew legal contracts better than Suge, he was more connected than Suge, and he's out of the spotlight (one of the codes of a real gangster is to remain unknown and unseen. No papertrails, get the point?). Suge didn't know that.

Kenner was a prosecutor turned criminal defense attorney so not only was he schooled on how to get criminals out of jail (guilty or not) but also how to put them in jail or get rid of them all together, plus he was highly connected with the underworld, gangbangers, politicians, lawyers, judges, etc.

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Reply #63 posted 06/20/10 2:47pm

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thatruth said:

TonyVanDam said:

Who ordered the hit on 2pac?

A very small team of rogue Freemasons & occultists killed 2pac under the direct order of a pro-Zionist.

And why was 2pac killed?

1. By doing a tell all on Dr. Dre's bisexuality & Quincy Jones' bisexuality on a down low, 2pac "broke the oath".

2. And to make matters worse, 2pac was speaking out against The Illuminati, the very same group of elitists responsible for the corruption of entertainments (counting the music industry), politics, & religions.

The Illuminati are the unseen, there are no names, there are no paper trials but you're on the right track.

But for those who can't get down with the Illuminati story, do yourself a favor. If you (the fans) want names and faces, get off of Suge Knight tip because that's a dead end, and please don't mention Puffy, Bad Boy or Biggie Smalls because you're a damn fool if you believe they were involved.

Start with David Kenner, he bailed out Tupac, not Suge Knight. Knight was just trying to help Pac get out of jail some way just like Madonna put money up for Tupac's bail. Kenner worked a deal with NY State of Corrections, Suge couldn't do that.

Tupac already had attorneys while in jail working on his appeal, they were unsuccessful, as part of the deal, he had to fire his attorneys and be represented by Kenner as a lawyer.

Pac fired Kenner as a lawyer but kept Suge as his manager, now, what does that tell you? He didn't trust Kenner, he was trying to help Suge see the light but he was too deaf, dumb and blind.

Kenner knew legal contracts better than Suge, he was more connected than Suge, and he's out of the spotlight (one of the codes of a real gangster is to remain unknown and unseen. No papertrails, get the point?). Suge didn't know that.

Kenner was a prosecutor turned criminal defense attorney so not only was he schooled on how to get criminals out of jail (guilty or not) but also how to put them in jail or get rid of them all together, plus he was highly connected with the underworld, gangbangers, politicians, lawyers, judges, etc.

If Suge was just a misguided, deaf, dumb and blind, albeit far from innocent bystander and Tupac was trying to help him see the light, when Tupac was shot sitting right next to him and subsequently died...a wake up call of epic proportions...mind you. Why did Suge go out of his way to point the finger at Orlando and why the fuck hasn't Tupac's real murderers been brought to justice...not even street justice?

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Reply #64 posted 06/20/10 4:38pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

thatruth said:

The Illuminati are the unseen, there are no names, there are no paper trials but you're on the right track.

But for those who can't get down with the Illuminati story, do yourself a favor. If you (the fans) want names and faces, get off of Suge Knight tip because that's a dead end, and please don't mention Puffy, Bad Boy or Biggie Smalls because you're a damn fool if you believe they were involved.

Start with David Kenner, he bailed out Tupac, not Suge Knight. Knight was just trying to help Pac get out of jail some way just like Madonna put money up for Tupac's bail. Kenner worked a deal with NY State of Corrections, Suge couldn't do that.

Tupac already had attorneys while in jail working on his appeal, they were unsuccessful, as part of the deal, he had to fire his attorneys and be represented by Kenner as a lawyer.

Pac fired Kenner as a lawyer but kept Suge as his manager, now, what does that tell you? He didn't trust Kenner, he was trying to help Suge see the light but he was too deaf, dumb and blind.

Kenner knew legal contracts better than Suge, he was more connected than Suge, and he's out of the spotlight (one of the codes of a real gangster is to remain unknown and unseen. No papertrails, get the point?). Suge didn't know that.

Kenner was a prosecutor turned criminal defense attorney so not only was he schooled on how to get criminals out of jail (guilty or not) but also how to put them in jail or get rid of them all together, plus he was highly connected with the underworld, gangbangers, politicians, lawyers, judges, etc.

If Suge was just a misguided, deaf, dumb and blind, albeit far from innocent bystander and Tupac was trying to help him see the light, when Tupac was shot sitting right next to him and subsequently died...a wake up call of epic proportions...mind you. Why did Suge go out of his way to point the finger at Orlando and why the fuck hasn't Tupac's real murderers been brought to justice...not even street justice?

I tell ya what, my guess is that just like all the other wanna-be thugs, when Shug ran up on a real gangsta he found out he was in waaay over his head. lol

These knee-grows run round frontin' and playin' at being gangstas, but...

when they find out how deep the rabbit hole really goes and discover that they are nothing more than a front for the ones who really call the shots, it's a rude awakening. Maybe Suge don't dare open his mouth or he be next?

Whether it's running drugs or laundering the $$ by fronting a vanity record label, Suge and other wannabes are nothing more than front men 'cause as others have suggested, real gangstas don't run their mouths and flash bling. The gatekeepers who control the manufacturing and distribution channels and keep the palms of certain "officials" greased are the ones really in charge and they gladly let those fools play their role as long as they don't get outta line.

Same reason the Panthers were destroyed, but somehow the Crips and Bloods are still doing business.

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Reply #65 posted 06/20/10 4:45pm

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never understtod why pac dissed nas..i mean his own crew said he listen to nas

i gave u power song all the time..

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Reply #66 posted 06/20/10 6:22pm

TonyVanDam

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thatruth said:

TonyVanDam said:

Who ordered the hit on 2pac?

A very small team of rogue Freemasons & occultists killed 2pac under the direct order of a pro-Zionist.

And why was 2pac killed?

1. By doing a tell all on Dr. Dre's bisexuality & Quincy Jones' bisexuality on a down low, 2pac "broke the oath".

2. And to make matters worse, 2pac was speaking out against The Illuminati, the very same group of elitists responsible for the corruption of entertainments (counting the music industry), politics, & religions.

The Illuminati are the unseen, there are no names, there are no paper trials but you're on the right track.

But for those who can't get down with the Illuminati story, do yourself a favor. If you (the fans) want names and faces, get off of Suge Knight tip because that's a dead end, and please don't mention Puffy, Bad Boy or Biggie Smalls because you're a damn fool if you believe they were involved.

Start with David Kenner, he bailed out Tupac, not Suge Knight. Knight was just trying to help Pac get out of jail some way just like Madonna put money up for Tupac's bail. Kenner worked a deal with NY State of Corrections, Suge couldn't do that.

Tupac already had attorneys while in jail working on his appeal, they were unsuccessful, as part of the deal, he had to fire his attorneys and be represented by Kenner as a lawyer.

Pac fired Kenner as a lawyer but kept Suge as his manager, now, what does that tell you? He didn't trust Kenner, he was trying to help Suge see the light but he was too deaf, dumb and blind.

Kenner knew legal contracts better than Suge, he was more connected than Suge, and he's out of the spotlight (one of the codes of a real gangster is to remain unknown and unseen. No papertrails, get the point?). Suge didn't know that.

Kenner was a prosecutor turned criminal defense attorney so not only was he schooled on how to get criminals out of jail (guilty or not) but also how to put them in jail or get rid of them all together, plus he was highly connected with the underworld, gangbangers, politicians, lawyers, judges, etc.

I always do my best in searching for the truth. nod thumbs up!

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Reply #67 posted 06/20/10 6:42pm

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thatruth said:

TonyVanDam said:

Who ordered the hit on 2pac?

A very small team of rogue Freemasons & occultists killed 2pac under the direct order of a pro-Zionist.

And why was 2pac killed?

1. By doing a tell all on Dr. Dre's bisexuality & Quincy Jones' bisexuality on a down low, 2pac "broke the oath".

2. And to make matters worse, 2pac was speaking out against The Illuminati, the very same group of elitists responsible for the corruption of entertainments (counting the music industry), politics, & religions.

The Illuminati are the unseen, there are no names, there are no paper trials but you're on the right track.

But for those who can't get down with the Illuminati story, do yourself a favor. If you (the fans) want names and faces, get off of Suge Knight tip because that's a dead end, and please don't mention Puffy, Bad Boy or Biggie Smalls because you're a damn fool if you believe they were involved.

Start with David Kenner, he bailed out Tupac, not Suge Knight. Knight was just trying to help Pac get out of jail some way just like Madonna put money up for Tupac's bail. Kenner worked a deal with NY State of Corrections, Suge couldn't do that.

Tupac already had attorneys while in jail working on his appeal, they were unsuccessful, as part of the deal, he had to fire his attorneys and be represented by Kenner as a lawyer.

Pac fired Kenner as a lawyer but kept Suge as his manager, now, what does that tell you? He didn't trust Kenner, he was trying to help Suge see the light but he was too deaf, dumb and blind.

Kenner knew legal contracts better than Suge, he was more connected than Suge, and he's out of the spotlight (one of the codes of a real gangster is to remain unknown and unseen. No papertrails, get the point?). Suge didn't know that.

Kenner was a prosecutor turned criminal defense attorney so not only was he schooled on how to get criminals out of jail (guilty or not) but also how to put them in jail or get rid of them all together, plus he was highly connected with the underworld, gangbangers, politicians, lawyers, judges, etc.

1. Everything you're saying about David Kenner is spot on. nod

2. Suge was not deaf, dumb, or blind. As a matter of fact, Suge knew who AND what was (and still is) running the dark side of the music industry a little more than 2pac did. The only real difference is that (unlike 2pac and Michael Jackson in later years) Suge would NEVER rebel against The Elitists by speaking out against them publcily, nor would he every risk "breaking the oath" by mentioning who was doing things on a down low to get ahead up the corporate ladder and/or maintaining the status quo.

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Reply #68 posted 06/20/10 8:00pm

Timmy84

I still think that no-snitch rule was a reason why Pac's (and BIG's) killers weren't brought to justice.

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Reply #69 posted 06/20/10 8:25pm

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I still think that no-snitch rule was a reason why Pac's (and BIG's) killers weren't brought to justice.

It's the reason why a lot of killers aren't brought to justice. Dumbest thing a community can do is honor some "no snitch" code and let their terrorists live among them protected. Non-snitchers are New fools.

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Reply #70 posted 06/20/10 8:34pm

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I honestly don't think Biggie had anything to do with it directly but Diddy I wouldn't put it past. He was very hungry for power and eventually he would get it but I don't think we'll ever really know at what cost.

Fuck that "Diddy" shit. It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Combs set Biggie up to be shot because he was planning on leaving Bad Boy. It was a known fact that Sean Combs was making more money from Biggie's albums than Biggie.

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Reply #71 posted 06/20/10 8:37pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Timmy84 said:

I still think that no-snitch rule was a reason why Pac's (and BIG's) killers weren't brought to justice.

It's the reason why a lot of killers aren't brought to justice. Dumbest thing a community can do is honor some "no snitch" code and let their terrorists live among them protected. Non-snitchers are New fools.

I don't think it's the no snitch code. Especially in Biggie's murder. Lil Cease was there and saw who shot him, Sean Combs was there and saw who shot him, Da Brat was there and saw who shot him. I think they're genuinely scared silent(and shitless).

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Reply #72 posted 06/20/10 8:47pm

Timmy84

dseann said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I honestly don't think Biggie had anything to do with it directly but Diddy I wouldn't put it past. He was very hungry for power and eventually he would get it but I don't think we'll ever really know at what cost.

Fuck that "Diddy" shit. It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Combs set Biggie up to be shot because he was planning on leaving Bad Boy. It was a known fact that Sean Combs was making more money from Biggie's albums than Biggie.

BIG even told Pac that he hated Puffy.

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Reply #73 posted 06/20/10 9:51pm

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Timmy84 said:

I still think that no-snitch rule was a reason why Pac's (and BIG's) killers weren't brought to justice.

That's because snitching is THE fastest way to "break the oath" and to potentially get yourself kill in the process. It's seems like the only way to avoid this fate is to join a witness protection program and/or leave the USA to never return again.

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Reply #74 posted 06/20/10 10:05pm

Cinnie

dseann said:

It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Combs set Biggie up to be shot because he was planning on leaving Bad Boy. It was a known fact that Sean Combs was making more money from Biggie's albums than Biggie.

I heard this only as the 2pac/Suge Knight set up theory.

From all accounts, Biggie was quite happy to be the king of Bad Boy.

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Reply #75 posted 06/21/10 1:17am

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

dseann said:

It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Combs set Biggie up to be shot because he was planning on leaving Bad Boy. It was a known fact that Sean Combs was making more money from Biggie's albums than Biggie.

I heard this only as the 2pac/Suge Knight set up theory.

From all accounts, Biggie was quite happy to be the king of Bad Boy.

I don't know... there's two sides to every story. I heard BIG wasn't really happy with Puff in some areas. Same with Pac about Suge or at least Pac and whoever he discovered was controlling Death Row.

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Reply #76 posted 06/21/10 7:30am

dseann

Cinnie said:

dseann said:

It wouldn't surprise me if Sean Combs set Biggie up to be shot because he was planning on leaving Bad Boy. It was a known fact that Sean Combs was making more money from Biggie's albums than Biggie.

I heard this only as the 2pac/Suge Knight set up theory.

From all accounts, Biggie was quite happy to be the king of Bad Boy.

eek Do you honestly think that Biggie thought he was KING of Bad Boy. With Sean's voice all over the tracks, face all up in the video even on stage at most of the concerts? Maybe he was the Prince of Bad Boy but Sean never let anyone forget who was King of Bad Boy.

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Reply #77 posted 06/21/10 12:12pm

Timmy84

dseann said:

Cinnie said:

I heard this only as the 2pac/Suge Knight set up theory.

From all accounts, Biggie was quite happy to be the king of Bad Boy.

eek Do you honestly think that Biggie thought he was KING of Bad Boy. With Sean's voice all over the tracks, face all up in the video even on stage at most of the concerts? Maybe he was the Prince of Bad Boy but Sean never let anyone forget who was King of Bad Boy.

Yeah BIG was happy to be the KING OF NEW YORK RAP, not of Bad Boy. lol Sean's ego trip was evident even when BIG died. It wasn't a reaction to his death. That guy was always on some ego trip.

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Reply #78 posted 06/21/10 1:35pm

Cinnie

dseann said:

Cinnie said:

I heard this only as the 2pac/Suge Knight set up theory.

From all accounts, Biggie was quite happy to be the king of Bad Boy.

eek Do you honestly think that Biggie thought he was KING of Bad Boy. With Sean's voice all over the tracks, face all up in the video even on stage at most of the concerts? Maybe he was the Prince of Bad Boy but Sean never let anyone forget who was King of Bad Boy.

okay you are now quoting Suge Knight. Go Team Suge! lol

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Reply #79 posted 06/21/10 2:04pm

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I believed it was Tupac's former bodyguard Frank Alexander who recounted this story

Pac had once got extremely upset because he wasnt allowed to take his songs (DAT taps) outside of the studio - this was a rule that David Kenner created at DeathRow. It was so bad that Pac's aunt got on the phone called Frank and told him to go down to the studio to calm him down and make sure nothing happened to him. Because of this situation and the fact that he knew he was getting cheated out of money, he fired David Kenner and had DeathRow audited.

Its a known fact that Pac argued with Suge for not making good promises but I dont think Suge or Orlando Anderson had anything to do with Pac's murder. Orlando never said why he was in Vegas that night; he didnt have any tickets for the Tyson fight or any money

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Reply #80 posted 06/21/10 8:39pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

dseann said:

eek Do you honestly think that Biggie thought he was KING of Bad Boy. With Sean's voice all over the tracks, face all up in the video even on stage at most of the concerts? Maybe he was the Prince of Bad Boy but Sean never let anyone forget who was King of Bad Boy.

okay you are now quoting Suge Knight. Go Team Suge! lol

I hate that pussy ass bitch but he wasn't lying about that. lol Team anyone my ass. lol

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Reply #81 posted 06/21/10 8:39pm

Timmy84

Prospect said:

I believed it was Tupac's former bodyguard Frank Alexander who recounted this story

Pac had once got extremely upset because he wasnt allowed to take his songs (DAT taps) outside of the studio - this was a rule that David Kenner created at DeathRow. It was so bad that Pac's aunt got on the phone called Frank and told him to go down to the studio to calm him down and make sure nothing happened to him. Because of this situation and the fact that he knew he was getting cheated out of money, he fired David Kenner and had DeathRow audited.

Its a known fact that Pac argued with Suge for not making good promises but I dont think Suge or Orlando Anderson had anything to do with Pac's murder. Orlando never said why he was in Vegas that night; he didnt have any tickets for the Tyson fight or any money

Orlando was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Reply #82 posted 06/21/10 9:03pm

Cinnie

Timmy84 said:

Cinnie said:

okay you are now quoting Suge Knight. Go Team Suge! lol

I hate that pussy ass bitch but he wasn't lying about that. lol Team anyone my ass. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpgpS3ogvMM#t=0m22s lol

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Reply #83 posted 06/21/10 9:09pm

Timmy84

Cinnie said:

Timmy84 said:

I hate that pussy ass bitch but he wasn't lying about that. lol Team anyone my ass. lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpgpS3ogvMM#t=0m22s lol

"East Coast ain't got love for Death Row?!" lol

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Reply #84 posted 06/21/10 9:18pm

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Timmy84 said:

Cinnie said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpgpS3ogvMM#t=0m22s lol

"East Coast ain't got love for Death Row?!" lol

Didn't Snoop Dogg used to do covers of a few East Coast hip-hop/rap classics?!?

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Reply #85 posted 06/21/10 9:26pm

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BTW, both coasts were even that year.

[Edited 6/21/10 21:30pm]

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Reply #86 posted 06/21/10 9:48pm

Timmy84

TonyVanDam said:

Timmy84 said:

"East Coast ain't got love for Death Row?!" lol

Didn't Snoop Dogg used to do covers of a few East Coast hip-hop/rap classics?!?

YEP! lol


That's what was so funny about it. Another ironic thing is:

2Pac was raised in New York until he was 15. falloff

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Reply #87 posted 06/21/10 10:18pm

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Didn't Snoop Dogg used to do covers of a few East Coast hip-hop/rap classics?!?

YEP! lol


That's what was so funny about it. Another ironic thing is:

2Pac was raised in New York until he was 15. falloff

Then 2pac lived in Baltimore and finally in Los Angeles.

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Reply #88 posted 06/22/10 5:20am

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Timmy84 said:

TonyVanDam said:

Didn't Snoop Dogg used to do covers of a few East Coast hip-hop/rap classics?!?

YEP! lol


That's what was so funny about it. Another ironic thing is:

2Pac was raised in New York until he was 15. falloff

Yeah, that shit tripped me out too. But it's happening all the time. People are so easily divided by the most trivial of bullshit!!! disbelief

White vs Black

Straight vs Homosexual

Christian vs Everbody else

Fams vs Haters

It's a never ending cycle!

I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #89 posted 06/22/10 5:58am

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Timmy84 said:

YEP! lol


That's what was so funny about it. Another ironic thing is:

2Pac was raised in New York until he was 15. falloff

Yeah, that shit tripped me out too. But it's happening all the time. People are so easily divided by the most trivial of bullshit!!! disbelief

White vs Black

Straight vs Homosexual

Christian vs Everbody else

Fams vs Haters

It's a never ending cycle!

Well if you think the east coast VS. west coast feud was total bullshit from hell, what about east coast (especially Nas) hating on the dirty south for taking the spotlight away from them?

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