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Thread started 06/10/10 4:50pm

Harlepolis

Kid Creole & The Coconuts - What Kept Them From Being Huge In The States?

Am I missing something?

I've been listening to their "Ultimate Collection" compilation during my work out, and here's a band who have it all; charisma, solid musicianship & showmanship, versatility, uniqueness, and finally the almost all-times winning factor, multi-racial. So why the hell are they big everywhere else but the US? neutral

I'd love for them to get a huge revival treatment from the US radio/media, they're def well deserved for it. Am I being biased for feeling this way?

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Reply #1 posted 06/10/10 9:00pm

TonyVanDam

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Kid Creole was and still is very underrated recording artist. My Male Curiousity & Endicott are still my all-time favorite tracks.

One thing that hurted the chances of KC & The Coconuts were the fact that none of their songs were played on r&b/soul radio back in the days like they should have. Good grief, even crossover-pop artists Lionel Ritchie (the song All Night Long) & Prince (almost all of the Parade album) were influence by KC's sound.

I also remember that neither MTV or BET ever play any of KC's videos. But thankfully, shows like USA Network's Radio 1990 & TBS's Nighttracks did played them during the 1980's.

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Reply #2 posted 06/10/10 10:00pm

robertlove

I only know him because he recorded "the sex of it"...it always seems like he was not a really serious act (could be wrong of course), like Boney M or something....i mean, the "coconuts"???

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Reply #3 posted 06/10/10 10:32pm

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Kid Creole & The Coconuts ........

They (August Darnell & Company) didn't fit in any of the "neat" demographics of radio. Who and what were they: big band, Latin/jazz/pop band/R&B? A tad too sophisticated and "different" for American radio during their time. Kid Creole may have had a chance if they had been around in the 40's.

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Reply #4 posted 06/10/10 10:33pm

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I remember hearing Sunshower, Cherchez La Femme by Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, being played by my next door neighbors all the time. Years later, I bought that LP and the Kid Creole & The Coconuts - Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places that's when I discovered they were a part of Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, and I've been digging on them ever since.

~ Going Places ~ from Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places ~

Here's one from Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band that I've always dug:

~ Hard Times ~

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Reply #5 posted 06/10/10 10:35pm

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Harlepolis said:

Am I missing something?

I've been listening to their "Ultimate Collection" compilation during my work out, and here's a band who have it all; charisma, solid musicianship & showmanship, versatility, uniqueness, and finally the almost all-times winning factor, multi-racial. So why the hell are they big everywhere else but the US? neutral

I'd love for them to get a huge revival treatment from the US radio/media, they're def well deserved for it. Am I being biased for feeling this way?




It's weird, because Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, had a disco hit and they should have generated buzz by affiliation..

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Reply #6 posted 06/11/10 12:55am

SoulAlive

In my area,this is their only song that received substantial airplay on the R&B stations music

summer of 82' flashback: "I'm A Wonderful Thing,Baby" by Kid Creole and the Coconuts

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Reply #7 posted 06/11/10 1:44am

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StarMon said:

I remember hearing Sunshower, Cherchez La Femme by Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, being played by my next door neighbors all the time. Years later, I bought that LP and the Kid Creole & The Coconuts - Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places that's when I discovered they were a part of Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, and I've been digging on them ever since.

~ Going Places ~ from Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places ~

Here's one from Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band that I've always dug:

~ Hard Times ~

Yup. Kid Creole was one of the founding embers of the Savannah Band. 30 years later I still keep Hard Times in constant rotation on i-tunes. music Cory Daye's voice cloud9

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Reply #8 posted 06/11/10 4:52am

Harlepolis

robertlove said:

I only know him because he recorded "the sex of it"...it always seems like he was not a really serious act (could be wrong of course), like Boney M or something....i mean, the "coconuts"???

True, they have alot of flair and flash, but unlike Boney M, there's more than what the eyes catches.

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Reply #9 posted 06/11/10 4:53am

SoulAlive

Harlepolis said:

robertlove said:

I only know him because he recorded "the sex of it"...it always seems like he was not a really serious act (could be wrong of course), like Boney M or something....i mean, the "coconuts"???

True, they have alot of flair and flash, but unlike Boney M, there's more than what the eyes catches.

I agree,they're so much more than just a novelty act.

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Reply #10 posted 06/11/10 5:43am

Harlepolis

SoulAlive said:

In my area,this is their only song that received substantial airplay on the R&B stations music

summer of 82' flashback: "I'm A Wonderful Thing,Baby" by Kid Creole and the Coconuts

Actually, I gotta give it to you, you posted this song so many times in the past, I was still stuck in Cherchez La Femme untill I heard this one.

One of my FAVE songs is this B-Side to "Stool Pigeon" which is from the same album as "I'm A Wonder Thing, Baby"...

This one rises my adrenaline whenever I'm in a work out...

And word to StarMon love Hard Time is my fave song from them along with...

And Organ Grinder's Tale which I couldn't find in youtube.

[Edited 6/11/10 5:44am]

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Reply #11 posted 06/11/10 6:03am

SoulAlive

Harlepolis said:

SoulAlive said:

In my area,this is their only song that received substantial airplay on the R&B stations music

summer of 82' flashback: "I'm A Wonderful Thing,Baby" by Kid Creole and the Coconuts

Actually, I gotta give it to you, you posted this song so many times in the past, I was still stuck on Cherchez La Femme untill I heard this one.

"I'm A Wonderful Thing,Baby" is a JAM headbang I love the Chic-styled guitar and the cool lyrics throughout.I'm convinced that Morris Day's image/character was inspired by Kid Creole.Prince is a huge fan of this group.

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Reply #12 posted 06/11/10 6:20am

Harlepolis

SoulAlive said:

Harlepolis said:

Actually, I gotta give it to you, you posted this song so many times in the past, I was still stuck on Cherchez La Femme untill I heard this one.

"I'm A Wonderful Thing,Baby" is a JAM headbang I love the Chic-styled guitar and the cool lyrics throughout.I'm convinced that Morris Day's image/character was inspired by Kid Creole.Prince is a huge fan of this group.

Intersting!

I've always thought that Morris Day & Kid Creole drew their mannerisms from this cat...

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Reply #13 posted 06/11/10 6:25am

SoulAlive

hey Harle,I bet you have this compilation lol I picked it up a few years ago.

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Reply #14 posted 06/11/10 6:42am

Harlepolis

SoulAlive said:

hey Harle,I bet you have this compilation lol I picked it up a few years ago.

This is where I heard Double On Back from nod GREAT SET!

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Reply #15 posted 06/11/10 6:46am

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StarMon said:

I remember hearing Sunshower, Cherchez La Femme by Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, being played by my next door neighbors all the time. Years later, I bought that LP and the Kid Creole & The Coconuts - Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places that's when I discovered they were a part of Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band, and I've been digging on them ever since.

~ Going Places ~ from Fresh Fruit in Foreign Places ~

Here's one from Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band that I've always dug:

~ Hard Times ~

Awwww... YEAH!!! Dr. Buzzard's Original Savannah Band!

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[Edited 6/11/10 7:04am]

"He's a musician's musician..."
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Reply #16 posted 06/12/10 4:31am

TD3

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SoulAlive said:

hey Harle,I bet you have this compilation lol I picked it up a few years ago.

Boy!? What do you not have. lol lol lol

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Reply #17 posted 06/12/10 6:21am

SoulAlive

lol
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Reply #18 posted 06/15/10 3:56am

SoulAlive

Harlepolis said:

A disco classic! headbang Spike Lee used this song to great effect in his 1999 film 'Summer Of Sam'.

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Reply #19 posted 06/15/10 10:35am

TD3

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SoulAlive said:

Harlepolis said:

A disco classic! headbang Spike Lee used this song to great effect in his 1999 film 'Summer Of Sam'.

That movie was a hot mess....

If I had gone to the movies to see it, I would've walked out.

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Reply #20 posted 06/15/10 12:04pm

SoulAlive

TD3 said:



SoulAlive said:




Harlepolis said:





A disco classic! headbang Spike Lee used this song to great effect in his 1999 film 'Summer Of Sam'.





That movie was a hot mess....



If I had gone to the movies to see it, I would've walked out.



'Summer Of Sam' is one of Spike Lee's best movies boxed boxed Some amazing performances thoughout.
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Reply #21 posted 06/16/10 6:06am

Harlepolis

SoulAlive said:

TD3 said:

That movie was a hot mess....

If I had gone to the movies to see it, I would've walked out.

'Summer Of Sam' is one of Spike Lee's best movies boxed boxed Some amazing performances thoughout.

Thats the ONLY official Spike Lee joint that I haven't watched. But I do remember the controversy behind it.

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Reply #22 posted 06/16/10 6:16am

SoulAlive

Harlepolis said:

SoulAlive said:

TD3 said: 'Summer Of Sam' is one of Spike Lee's best movies boxed boxed Some amazing performances thoughout.

Thats the ONLY official Spike Lee joint that I haven't watched. But I do remember the controversy behind it.

Please see it.I'd like to know how you feel about it lol

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Reply #23 posted 06/16/10 8:32am

Ottensen

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Harlepolis said:

Thats the ONLY official Spike Lee joint that I haven't watched. But I do remember the controversy behind it.

Please see it.I'd like to know how you feel about it lol

I was too scared to go see it. I haven't recovered from the final scenes of Bamboozled yet so I don't even want to rent it. I'm sca-wed boxed .

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Reply #24 posted 06/18/10 5:38am

SoulAlive

Don't be scared lol It's a stunning film,with excellent performances by these guys: Adrien Brody and John Leguizamo:

Adrien Brody and Lohn Leguizamo in Summer of Sam

Another interesting thing about this film: It takes place in the summer of 1977 and I like the way it gives us a glimpse of two competing lifestyles: the disco scene and the punk rock scene.It's a very clever,well-directed film.

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