TonyVanDam said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Good!!!

We all know that sentence he received was bullshit. Any non-famous dude beating the crap out of his girlfriend would have gotten jail time. CB got off easy but the he is not getting off easy with the rest of the world. Low album sales and now he can't kick off his UK tour. Guess he aint poppin' anymore.

I bet there is a lot more to the story. In saying, Rhianna is very popular in UK dance-pop culture.

Not really. It's just standard UK policy to reject your visa if you are a (known) convicted felon, regardless of country. Usually you only have to submit clearance record from the police in your home country if you're planning to stay beyond a certain period which is not business related. But celebrities have so much of their business on front street, if they've had any trouble with the law they usually get rejected flat out since everyone alreadyknows the details of their case. It happens alot, actually...and they usually whine and protest to the hills and heavens about being treated unfairly, but I doubt brown will try that.

I personally believe that he made a f***ed up decision at 19 years of age, and after some rehabiltitative re-wiring in his head (through intense therapy), he is young enough that he can and should be able to move on from this and concentrate on his art and become a better person.

Our new Government have vowed to tighten the laws on letting undesirables into our fair country. In future unless you've got actual skills or something worthwhile to offer the UK, you will not get in. Brown would fail on two counts: Woman beater and just plain useless crap.

Yet Van der Sloot got to go all over the world, snappin' bitches necks. Odd.

MotorBootyAffair said:

Yet Van der Sloot got to go all over the world, snappin' bitches necks. Odd.

Wow. I guess it's out of the question to say snappin' women necks or killing women. uh?

Desire2006 said:

This is total bullshit!! And yet the UK has Al Queda terrorists living in its suburbs!!!!

The UK did the same 2 Martha Stewart a few years ago after her insider trading felony and after she finished her sentence!!!! She was denied a Visa to enter the UK!!

It seems that the UK is living on double standards!!!!

Every country has this rule, I'm glad that just cause this kid has $$$ he was still refused. Just because he is a 'Star' he should still be given the same rights as every body else!

Well, Chris Brown, you reap what you sow...

Eh fuck him!

BklynBabe said:

file this under, shit you should know BEFORE you schedule a tour in another country.

wasn't that why Amy Winehouse couldn't come get her Grammies?

Exactly. Who was the idiot that booked tour dates without clearing travel permission first?

I think its time for Ike Brown to retire

Word "Ike" needs to go back to school and get a trade. Hope he invests whatever remainder money he has left. He's still young, so in about another 8 years or so...this will likely have blown over. Maybe he can write songs, if he can perhaps he doesnt have to completely leave the game.

I got pissed when I saw all the hip hop heads like T.I. and others "supporting" him. I mean they should have just spoke out and said it was wrong, but that Chris needed friendship also. They made it seem like that was normal and alright. I guess in their ghetto street minds, that sort of thing is ok. That whole situation really pissed me the hell off.

I don't like Chris Brown at all but this is just stupid. He's not a threat to anyone, are we only going to give visa's to people we like now? I'm all for refusing entry to people who incite racial hatred, terrorism etc but not in cases like this. James Brown was arrested for domestic violence (and rape?) many times and how many times did he visit the UK? Or is it ok for him because he was a much superior artist? So silly.

AshK said:

I don't like Chris Brown at all but this is just stupid. He's not a threat to anyone, are we only going to give visa's to people we like now? I'm all for refusing entry to people who incite racial hatred, terrorism etc but not in cases like this. James Brown was arrested for domestic violence (and rape?) many times and how many times did he visit the UK? Or is it ok for him because he was a much superior artist? So silly.

Because there were no pictures. There was no evidence of James Brown beating down his women even though he absolutely did (he even shot at one repeatedly) . Pictures are very powerful. I believe that if there was no horrible picture of the incident, and we just heard the report; Chris would not be the villian that he currently is.

Reel said:

AshK said:

I don't like Chris Brown at all but this is just stupid. He's not a threat to anyone, are we only going to give visa's to people we like now? I'm all for refusing entry to people who incite racial hatred, terrorism etc but not in cases like this. James Brown was arrested for domestic violence (and rape?) many times and how many times did he visit the UK? Or is it ok for him because he was a much superior artist? So silly.

Because there were no pictures. There was no evidence of James Brown beating down his women even though he absolutely did (he even shot at one repeatedly) . Pictures are very powerful. I believe that if there was no horrible picture of the incident, and we just heard the report; Chris would not be the villian that he currently is.

You might be right, I understand the public outrage because of that but the UK Border Agency should know better than to be so easily influenced by the media.

Reel said:

AshK said:

I don't like Chris Brown at all but this is just stupid. He's not a threat to anyone, are we only going to give visa's to people we like now? I'm all for refusing entry to people who incite racial hatred, terrorism etc but not in cases like this. James Brown was arrested for domestic violence (and rape?) many times and how many times did he visit the UK? Or is it ok for him because he was a much superior artist? So silly.

Because there were no pictures. There was no evidence of James Brown beating down his women even though he absolutely did (he even shot at one repeatedly) . Pictures are very powerful. I believe that if there was no horrible picture of the incident, and we just heard the report; Chris would not be the villian that he currently is.

Were any of JB's victims well liked fashion icons/pop idols? Probably not. Just say'n

Harlepolis said:

It ain't the end of the world.

He could put this music thing in the background for the time being and go to college, who knows, maybe he'll turn his life around.

If he had a brain cell in his head, that's exactly what he'd do.

Reel said:

AshK said:

I don't like Chris Brown at all but this is just stupid. He's not a threat to anyone, are we only going to give visa's to people we like now? I'm all for refusing entry to people who incite racial hatred, terrorism etc but not in cases like this. James Brown was arrested for domestic violence (and rape?) many times and how many times did he visit the UK? Or is it ok for him because he was a much superior artist? So silly.

Because there were no pictures. There was no evidence of James Brown beating down his women even though he absolutely did (he even shot at one repeatedly) . Pictures are very powerful. I believe that if there was no horrible picture of the incident, and we just heard the report; Chris would not be the villian that he currently is.

Agreed.

DesireeNevermind said:

Reel said:

Because there were no pictures. There was no evidence of James Brown beating down his women even though he absolutely did (he even shot at one repeatedly) . Pictures are very powerful. I believe that if there was no horrible picture of the incident, and we just heard the report; Chris would not be the villian that he currently is.

Were any of JB's victims well liked fashion icons/pop idols? Probably not. Just say'n

I understand what you're saying, but this isn't just a concert organiser booking acts or a magizine editorial. It's a Goverment Office and they are supposed to be consistent and fair. If they want to ban someone from visiting because of a previous conviction then fine but don't apply to just one person because of the media attention the crime received or because the victim is famous.

[Edited 6/11/10 4:48am]

AshK said:

DesireeNevermind said:

Were any of JB's victims well liked fashion icons/pop idols? Probably not. Just say'n

I understand what you're saying, but this isn't just a concert organiser booking acts or a magizine editorial. It's a Goverment Office and they are supposed to be consistent and fair. If they want to ban someone from visiting because of a previous conviction then fine but don't apply to just one person because of the media attention the crime received or because the victim is famous.

[Edited 6/11/10 4:48am]

You have a valid point....I'm feeling it.

HELL, Snoop can neve take British Airways agian. I'm not sure whether he can evin travil to the nation.

Reel said:

If those pictures were never leaked, we would not even be having this discussion. If it was just reported that he hit her, and we did not visually see the damage I don't think Chris would be hated as much as he is. A picture is worth a thousand words. His mother is a victim of domestic violence. I saw her in an interview saying something to the effect of Chris being her protector when he was a child. He protected her from abuse by her husband. She admitted this prior to the Rihanna incident. If I was Chris mother, I would have been embarassed to admit that I stayed in a bad situaiton so long that my son had to protect me from being beat up. Those images are forever embedded in Chris' head. They will effect him for the remainder of his life. Chris initially said he was getting help from his mother, and friends, and a pastor. No...that's no good. Chris needs professional help.

Even after this incident happened, Rihanna initially went back. That vicious cycle of abuse is really sad. I'm glad that the media kept reporting when they saw them together, and taking pictures, perhaps that's what finally woke Rihanna up. No, I don't believe that was the first time he hit her. Usually in those situations, you dont just suddenly catch an Ultimate Fighter style beat down the first time. First the man usually assesses, and test the woman through verbal abuse and then through shoves, shakes, hits, and then punches.

Oh well, I guess he better not look forwad to playing at any gigs outside the United States because most States have laws against criminals entering their country, maybe things will change once he is off of probation. Why Naoime Campbell is allowed to still travel internationally, is beyond my understanding.

There were previous incidents - he threw her against a wall during an argument and broke the windscreen of a car (don't recall if it was hers but it was while she was with him).

Huge warning signs IMO and it's sad he couldn't remember what it must've been like for his mother and learn from that.