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Thread started 06/08/10 9:12am

Dreamer2

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Singer Chris Brown denied UK visa

Singer Chris Brown denied UK visa

(UKPA) – 29 minutes ago

R&B singer Chris Brown has been denied a visa to enter the country just days before his UK tour was due to start.

The US star, who was sentenced to six months community labour for assaulting then-girlfriend Rihanna last February, was due to kick off his tour in Glasgow on Wednesday night.

Brown, 21, has been refused permission on the grounds of being guilty of a serious criminal offence, the Home Office said.

Tour promoters SJM said the concerts had been "postponed" and that dates to see the Run It! and Kiss Kiss singer would be rescheduled.

He was also due to perform in Birmingham, Manchester and London's Hammersmith Apollo on Thursday, Friday, and Sunday respectively, and in Ireland next Tuesday.

The Home Office said in a statement: "We reserve the right to refuse entry to the UK to anyone guilty of a serious criminal offence. Public safety is one of our primary concerns.

"Each application to enter the UK is considered on its individual merits," it added.

Brown was sentenced in August last year to five years' probation, 180 days community labour and told to attend a domestic violence programme. He was also told to stay at least 100 yards from Rihanna for the next five years.

Brown submitted his visa application on June 1 and would have learnt on Monday that it had been refused.

Tour promoters SJM said: "Due to unforeseen circumstances the Chris Brown UK tour ... has unfortunately been postponed. Ticket buyers should hold on to their tickets as there will be more news in the forthcoming days of possible rearranged dates."

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Reply #1 posted 06/08/10 9:29am

ernestsewell

AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

What a moron.

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Reply #2 posted 06/08/10 9:41am

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Good!!!

We all know that sentence he received was bullshit. Any non-famous dude beating the crap out of his girlfriend would have gotten jail time. CB got off easy but the he is not getting off easy with the rest of the world. Low album sales and now he can't kick off his UK tour. Guess he aint poppin' anymore. giggle

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Reply #3 posted 06/08/10 9:44am

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hah!

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Reply #4 posted 06/08/10 9:46am

Harlepolis

It ain't the end of the world.

He could put this music thing in the background for the time being and go to college, who knows, maybe he'll turn his life around.

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Reply #5 posted 06/08/10 9:58am

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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

XD

''now watch what you say or they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, a fanatical criminal''
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Reply #6 posted 06/08/10 10:07am

CynicKill

You guys are too funny. How is someone supposed to move on if you refuse to let them?
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Reply #7 posted 06/08/10 10:09am

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CynicKill said:

You guys are too funny. How is someone supposed to move on if you refuse to let them?

He has moved on. He just can't move on to the UK. biggrin

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Reply #8 posted 06/08/10 10:12am

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Harle, I love you, but have you ever seen Chris talk? Innate intelligence was not something he was gifted with.

On the other hand, I really don't see how the UK is getting away with this-he didn't harm Rihanna on English soil. Does the US do this as well?

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #9 posted 06/08/10 10:13am

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scriptgirl said:

Harle, I love you, but have you ever seen Chris talk? Innate intelligence was not something he was gifted with.

On the other hand, I really don't see how the UK is getting away with this-he didn't harm Rihanna on English soil. Does the US do this as well?

Yes

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Reply #10 posted 06/08/10 10:29am

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scriptgirl said:

Harle, I love you, but have you ever seen Chris talk? Innate intelligence was not something he was gifted with.

On the other hand, I really don't see how the UK is getting away with this-he didn't harm Rihanna on English soil. Does the US do this as well?

A lot of Brit's, including Boy George, have been denied Visa's to the US because of convictions. It's not a US thing, it's a law thing.

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Reply #11 posted 06/08/10 10:30am

Desire2006

This is total bullshit!! And yet the UK has Al Queda terrorists living in its suburbs!!!!shocked shocked

The UK did the same 2 Martha Stewart a few years ago after her insider trading felony and after she finished her sentence!!!! She was denied a Visa to enter the UK!!

It seems that the UK is living on double standards!!!!nod nod

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Reply #12 posted 06/08/10 10:50am

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You guys are too funny. How is someone supposed to move on if you refuse to let them?

First off, folks don't like abusers. They don't like men who hit women (or even women who abuse men).

Brown was removed from MTV VMA's, and his ads were pulled. Yet all he said was, "Words cannot begin to express how sorry and saddened I am over what transpired." The boy can't even admit what he did. He pleaded not guilty once he was arraigned, but later (finally) pleaded guilty to a felony, but got community service. So after all his plea deals, community service, and court-ordered counseling, he goes on YouTube and tries to save face. Doesn't work. He doesn't get it.

He then was seen at a Kmart or Walmart and noticed that they weren't stocking his CD. He called it a conspiracy to keep him down. Seems a bit hypocritical since earlier in his hilarious YouTube video, he "accepted full responsibility" about what happened. Well, you know what Mr. Brown? THIS is what happens. No one wants ANY part of you.

He went on Larry King, and still couldn't answer a question, side stepped many, and fumbled his way through others. He said that's "not who I am as a person". Well, apparently it is who he is as a person. His mother defended him (really, his MOMMY?), yet violence starts somewhere. There's always a first punch, or a first hit. This was his first (that we know of). The mother doesn't even believe in the "cycle of violence", meaning you learn it from seeing it, then you act it out yourself. She's just as fucked up as he is in the head.

He then further side-stepped responsibility by saying it was the media's fault. It was the media that drove them in separate directions after the news of the beat down came out. Really? It wasn't the fact that he PUT HIS HANDS ON A WOMEN IN A VIOLENT WAY?! THAT wasn't the problem? It's the MEDIA? Go fuck yourself, Chris Brown.

He then FURTHER side-stepped responsibility by saying he didn't remember hitting Rihanna, but knew "it occurred", and was "sorry" for his actions. Oh, he's sorry alright. "It was and still is a blur." Bullshit. Utter bullshit. But he's "pretty sure" they can be friends. REALLY? WTF?!

The boy has NO home training, and is a dismal failure at life, thus far. He has zero career, and no real friends, except his mommy.

So you know what? He can "move on". He can go ahead and maneuver in the world as he wishes. He can hunt down management at Wal-Mart and complain about them not racking his CD (WTF is up with the cover on that thing anyway? Is it a joke?) He can pretend he doesn't remember what happened, and that this is a one-time incident. But the rest of us recognize bullshit when we see it, especially in an abuser saying all the same thing any other abuser has said. "I don't remember that. It's all a blur. I never meant to hurt her. I take full responsibility. Let me do community service and not go to jail." There's something to be said for the system that give a slap on the wrist for someone who punched someone else. I guess as long as you don't plunge a knife into their chest, it's okay.

There's also something to be said for the fact that men still think it's okay to hit a woman. We can forgive him for what he did, because we have to. It keeps us from harboring resentment or anger. But do we forget? Never. You learn from the past, or you're doomed to repeated it. Brown will repeat his, but the public will remember him as he is - an abuser. So let him move on? Yes, he can move on....alone.

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Reply #13 posted 06/08/10 11:09am

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scriptgirl said:

Harle, I love you, but have you ever seen Chris talk? Innate intelligence was not something he was gifted with.

On the other hand, I really don't see how the UK is getting away with this-he didn't harm Rihanna on English soil. Does the US do this as well?

The UK has every right to deny Mr. Brown a visa, he's been convicted of a crime and he's still on probation. Most countries have laws on their books (US does as well) that can deny you entry into their country if you've been convicted of a crime. So, under those circumstances Mr. Brown did what was required, he applied for a visa. He was denied a visa, pretty open and shut. Truth be told a country/nation can deny you a visa or deny you entry into their country for whatever.

Under the circumstances, you would've thought Brown would've filed papers for a visa a little bit in advance to know if he would be granted a visa. He can always reapply . . . tho' I'm not sure if the results would be any different.

I agree with Harle, it isn't the end of the world. Everyone should have and acquire skills so the can have options for making a living. If Mr. Brown hasn't grasp this in his precarious state than that's on him.


[Edited 6/8/10 14:31pm]

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Reply #14 posted 06/08/10 12:17pm

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Well...he does have a new movie coming out. He will be alright. Acting may prove therapeutic for him. It can help him work out his issues about relationships and women. He still needs his ass beat though.

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Reply #15 posted 06/08/10 1:37pm

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Wowwwwww eek

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Reply #16 posted 06/08/10 1:46pm

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Desire2006 said:

This is total bullshit!! And yet the UK has Al Queda terrorists living in its suburbs!!!!shocked shocked

The UK did the same 2 Martha Stewart a few years ago after her insider trading felony and after she finished her sentence!!!! She was denied a Visa to enter the UK!!

It seems that the UK is living on double standards!!!!nod nod

Why is it double standards? Same as most western countries.

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Reply #17 posted 06/08/10 2:01pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

Desire2006 said:

This is total bullshit!! And yet the UK has Al Queda terrorists living in its suburbs!!!!shocked shocked

The UK did the same 2 Martha Stewart a few years ago after her insider trading felony and after she finished her sentence!!!! She was denied a Visa to enter the UK!!

It seems that the UK is living on double standards!!!!nod nod

Why is it double standards? Same as most western countries.

Yeah i mean we can take this all the way to John Lennon being deported due to his "pot" bust, meanwhile there were real criminals all over the USA.

The terrorist thing is 100% you have "homegrown" terrorists in america in populated cities conducted business with no attention, so the whole UK thing, we are the biggest double standard ever.


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Reply #18 posted 06/08/10 3:04pm

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CB was convicted of a crime. All these terrorists you guys speak of have yet to be caught. The best any nation has done is put them on one of those terrorists watch lists which do seem to keep certain people from entering this country or that country. Its not like there are a bunch of hardened criminals with lenghthy rap sheets coming and going as they please. CB committed a crime and was sentenced for that crime , which some deem horrible and unforgiveable, so his ass can't start off his UK tour. He's lucky he didn't have to spend a night in prison. That's far worse than not being able to enter Britains' fly zone. lol

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Reply #19 posted 06/08/10 5:17pm

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file this under, shit you should know BEFORE you schedule a tour in another country.

wasn't that why Amy Winehouse couldn't come get her Grammies?

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Reply #20 posted 06/08/10 5:31pm

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Wait a minute, why couldn't Amy get her Grammies-I think it wasn't to do with crime, but that the paper work hadn't been filed in time.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #21 posted 06/08/10 6:20pm

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scriptgirl said:

Wait a minute, why couldn't Amy get her Grammies-I think it wasn't to do with crime, but that the paper work hadn't been filed in time.

I thought it was because she had to go to court for slapping a bitch....hmmm

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Reply #22 posted 06/08/10 6:37pm

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For a while, they would give Snoop a visa cause of a weed charge.

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Reply #23 posted 06/08/10 10:10pm

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Reply #24 posted 06/08/10 11:41pm

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If those pictures were never leaked, we would not even be having this discussion. If it was just reported that he hit her, and we did not visually see the damage I don't think Chris would be hated as much as he is. A picture is worth a thousand words. His mother is a victim of domestic violence. I saw her in an interview saying something to the effect of Chris being her protector when he was a child. He protected her from abuse by her husband. She admitted this prior to the Rihanna incident. If I was Chris mother, I would have been embarassed to admit that I stayed in a bad situaiton so long that my son had to protect me from being beat up. Those images are forever embedded in Chris' head. They will effect him for the remainder of his life. Chris initially said he was getting help from his mother, and friends, and a pastor. No...that's no good. Chris needs professional help.

Even after this incident happened, Rihanna initially went back. That vicious cycle of abuse is really sad. I'm glad that the media kept reporting when they saw them together, and taking pictures, perhaps that's what finally woke Rihanna up. No, I don't believe that was the first time he hit her. Usually in those situations, you dont just suddenly catch an Ultimate Fighter style beat down the first time. First the man usually assesses, and test the woman through verbal abuse and then through shoves, shakes, hits, and then punches.

Oh well, I guess he better not look forwad to playing at any gigs outside the United States because most States have laws against criminals entering their country, maybe things will change once he is off of probation. Why Naoime Campbell is allowed to still travel internationally, is beyond my understanding.

Although I'm your biggest fan...I'm also your biggest critic. Can you deal with that?
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Reply #25 posted 06/09/10 1:33am

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DesireeNevermind said:

Good!!!

We all know that sentence he received was bullshit. Any non-famous dude beating the crap out of his girlfriend would have gotten jail time. CB got off easy but the he is not getting off easy with the rest of the world. Low album sales and now he can't kick off his UK tour. Guess he aint poppin' anymore. giggle

I bet there is a lot more to the story. In saying, Rhianna is very popular in UK dance-pop culture.

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Harlepolis said:

It ain't the end of the world.

He could put this music thing in the background for the time being and go to college, who knows, maybe he'll turn his life around.

No, it isn't the end of the world. It's the tragic end of Chris Brown's music career.

It's seems that no one in the international music industry has his back anymore. It's time for him to retire. No matter how hard he tried, The Powers That Be and music fans alike simply like (Dark) Rhianna more.

Whatever can we say?!?

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Reply #27 posted 06/09/10 1:58am

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TonyVanDam said:

Harlepolis said:

It ain't the end of the world.

He could put this music thing in the background for the time being and go to college, who knows, maybe he'll turn his life around.

No, it isn't the end of the world. It's the tragic end of Chris Brown's music career.

It's seems that no one in the international music industry has his back anymore. It's time for him to retire. No matter how hard he tried, The Powers That Be and music fans alike simply like (Dark) Rhianna more.

Whatever can we say?!?

You crack me up. LOL @ Dark Rihanna.

Although I'm your biggest fan...I'm also your biggest critic. Can you deal with that?
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Reply #28 posted 06/09/10 7:33am

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I hope this means I will never have to hear crawl again.

If we crawl
Till we can walk again
Then we'll run
Until we're strong enough to jump
Then we'll fly

um.... cancel that last line

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Reply #29 posted 06/09/10 8:43am

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Tony, what is your issue with Rihanna? She is the victim, not Chris.

"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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