Timmy84 said:

Not to try to bring Ms. Aguilera into this but you know how funny Gaga fans were quick to say Christina was copying Gaga and yet the both of them did "homages" to Madonna videos.

That's VERY ironic.

So 80s inspired... when the videos were a bunch of crazy shit that had nothing to do with the song

Cinnie said:

So 80s inspired... when the videos were a bunch of crazy shit that had nothing to do with the song

Still too calculating though. Its like she has to be different and look different ALL THE TIME. Its becoming formulaic and predictable.

In interviews, she seems very serious which either indicates a total lack of sense of humour (considering how odd she often looks etc..), or she is deliberately being po faced and serious which makes her fake.

Cinnie said:

So 80s inspired... when the videos were a bunch of crazy shit that had nothing to do with the song

anyone else think in this video that Gaga looks like a younger, blond Liza Minelli?

anyway, I just think she is trying too hard to constantly "outdo" herself each time.

Uh, okay; see there was God before religion and there will be God after religion is gone so why give a shit about being religious when it really won't matter in the end anyway. She needs to forget religion and just live by faith because what she's hoping for will never happen unless she starts her own religion..... oh shit! There really isn't anything to be confused about when you come to realize that most religions were more than likely made up by homophobic, misogynistic males. Many religions don't even feel that women are equal to men so why would they respect gay people and treat them as equals? God made us all and loves us all equally...that's all the younger generation needs to know. All she did with this video was probably get herself banned from the Catholic church. We all remember how pissed the Pope was when Madonna made Jesus a black man, danced in front of burning crosses, and exhibitied stigmata on her hands in the 'Like A Prayer' video. Oh well, there's always Kabbalah, Gaga.

Honestly, if she had not explained the meanings behind this video's imagery I would have thought that it was either: soft core porn or an homage to Madonna. Seriously, didn't Madonna already do this back in the early 90s? How can words like 'creative' and 'innovative' be attached to imagery and ideals that were being done over 10 years ago? It's like 'Justify My Love' except it won't get banned. I guess these are different times because this would have aired once on MTV and never been seen again back in the 90s. All I can say is that this song and video are much better than that hot mess 'Telephone'. Now that was a total waste of 9 minutes. At least this was only a waste of 4 minutes and actually had a point. C+ All just my

xperience319 said:

too many themes...nothing makes any sense..images just in there for shock value and no real message in the video that i can see?

lol way to not read the thread at all.

Uh, okay; see there was God before religion and there will be God after religion is gone so why give a shit about being religious when it really won't matter in the end anyway. She needs to forget religion and just live by faith because what she's hoping for will never happen unless she starts her own religion..... oh shit! There really isn't anything to be confused about when you come to realize that most religions were more than likely made up by homophobic, misogynistic males. Many religions don't even feel that women are equal to men so why would they respect gay people and treat them as equals? God made us all and loves us all equally...that's all the younger generation needs to know. All she did with this video was probably get herself banned from the Catholic church. We all remember how pissed the Pope was when Madonna made Jesus a black man, danced in front of burning crosses, and exhibitied stigmata on her hands in the 'Like A Prayer' video. Oh well, there's always Kabbalah, Gaga.

Gaga is only 24, she's an artist and she is examining her own confusion this way. I'm sure she'll realise what you've said here soon enough (I agree with you btw)

Honestly, if she had not explained the meanings behind this video's imagery I would have thought that it was either: soft core porn or an homage to Madonna.

That's the key to understanding Gaga: listen to her.

TonyVanDam said:

Zinzi said:

the beat reminds me of this XD

http://www.youtube.com/wa...KksMJY1z0g

Vegaboys?!? Oh please! I'm thinking Gaga was beatbiting Ace Of Base.

Good catch.

mimi2 said:

anyone else think in this video that Gaga looks like a younger, blond Liza Minelli?

anyway, I just think she is trying too hard to constantly "outdo" herself each time.

Agreed, this would have been a perfect opportunity to take it down a notch - it's such a simple, breezy song

midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:

Not to try to bring Ms. Aguilera into this but you know how funny Gaga fans were quick to say Christina was copying Gaga and yet the both of them did "homages" to Madonna videos.

That's VERY ironic.

Not really, i guess Ga Ga is smarter than CA and knew she was doing a copycat Album and Video of her style which as we know take's alot from Madonna 80's style.....

It was more a way of showing CA how to do a video the right way..... using Madonna's 80's style as a background....

Cheeky = Yes

In Your Face CA = Yes

Someone who studied Madonna, Prince, MJ, Bowie, the 80's very well and understands the power of glam, image, video's, style, fashion, hype = Full Marks A Star !

Aryll said:

She peaked at Bad Romance video-wise. Everything after that has been her trying too, too hard to be artistic and trying to out-do herself. She needs to tone it down, separate herself from Madonna, and do a fun video for once.

VinnyM27 said:

Aryll said:

She peaked at Bad Romance video-wise. Everything after that has been her trying too, too hard to be artistic and trying to out-do herself. She needs to tone it down, separate herself from Madonna, and do a fun video for once.

I thought "Telephone" was a fun video, but I know what you mean? BTW, when I first saw it I thought this was bound to irritate off conservatives AND straight male Three Stooges fans (or basically ALL Three Stooges fans)! And if you're both, you'll be really steamed! I mean, I don't think it would be offensive to say those guys where all Moes. It would be a much funnier video if they were all Larry Fines. And I am disappointed that there was no product placement.

RKJCNE said:

the premiere crashed her website and twitter! its taking forever to load!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhh

wow that shit was hot

Timmy84 said:

You know what's odd, the FIRST thing that came to mind when I first head "Alejandro" especially with the beat was Ace of Base then the lyrics came and the melody and it was like:

"Tropical the island breeze
All of nature wild and free
This is where I long to be
La isla bonita
And when the samba played
The sun would set so high
Ring through my ears and sting my eyes
Your Spanish lullaby"

Then I head the ABBA song "FERNANDOOOOOOOOOO" lol

It was like "wow this song sounds like so many songs it makes no sense."

Yeah.

As for the video. I don´t know. I´d give thums up to the camera man or something, but why the only theme that all the "artist" can come up with is sex and violence.

Let me know when she comes up with some depth.

LouieLestate said:

This is sad really.

I miss applehead.

Didn't like the video. Just a bunch of rip-offs of various older artists, mainly Madonna. Plus the video, which is pretty dark does not suit the feeling of the song at all (which has a light and summertime vibe)

Wasn't really paying attn to the video, but I do loooove this song!

This gimmick has overstayed its welcome.

The only Madonna reference I really caught was "Vogue" with the similar black/white lighting and barrel-bra.

Madonna didn't invent blasphemy

The opening military segment and sound effects are reminiscent of Janet's "Rhythm Nation."

[Edited 6/10/10 10:53am]

Cinnie said:

The only Madonna reference I really caught was "Vogue" with the similar black/white lighting and barrel-bra.

Madonna didn't invent blasphemy

oh come on.... please i'm not even a madge fan and i can see loads...

on your last point you should as the pope at the time .... he hated her ...

carlcranshaw said:

For those of you in bands.

Play Alejandro and then go into this.

You don't need to be in a band to realize it; it's a rip-off, that's for sure.

The ego of this Lady is growing to unexpected and embarrassingly enormous proportions

I still prefer the funnier/simpler Just Dance-PokerFace era...

please! enough of this bombastic videos, damn! ...Telephone, ...Alejandro...

xperience319 said:

too many themes...nothing makes any sense..images just in there for shock value and no real message in the video that i can see?

It is not suppose to make sense right away. The images are subliminal messages that your subconscious will record and accept.

There is a message there.

JoeTyler said:

please! enough of this bombastic videos, damn! ...Telephone, ...Alejandro...

I won't complain about someone making epic music videos that are anticipated as events upon release!

So which Madonna album/era is this song an outtake from? Come on, someone has got to know.

JoeTyler said:

carlcranshaw said:

For those of you in bands.

Play Alejandro and then go into this.

You don't need to be in a band to realize it; it's a rip-off, that's for sure.

The ego of this Lady is growing to unexpected and embarrassingly enormous proportions

I still prefer the funnier/simpler Just Dance-PokerFace era...

please! enough of this bombastic videos, damn! ...Telephone, ...Alejandro...

I was saying if you play in a band you could do a "mix" in the setlist from going from the Lady Gaga song into this.

It wasn't in reference it being a uh, homage.

SEANMAN said:

The opening military segment and sound effects are reminiscent of Janet's "Rhythm Nation."

Cinnie said:

SEANMAN said:

The opening military segment and sound effects are reminiscent of Janet's "Rhythm Nation."

You know he's right

JoeTyler said:

Cinnie said:

You know he's right

Thank you. It was even noted that the video was Rhythm Nation-esque before it even came out. The video is great, but that opening sequence is pure Janet.

[Edited 6/10/10 17:44pm]

That's right!!