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Reply #90 posted 06/07/10 10:52pm

Pressure

midiscover said:

Pressure said:

Janet has been in the game for 20+ years. if she aint freestyled now, she aint gonna, cuz she cant. Aaliyah jumped in different styles, created her own moves as well. so with your janet stan logic, aaliyah was a natural.

Janet cant freestyle. she's choreographed. not as natural as everybody thinks.

Hell, If Janet was that natural why cant she dance now?

Michael was still doing the same moves from the 80's in his late 40's. whats Janet's excuse?

Janet has freestlyed on her tours. Aaliyah hasn't jumped in many different styles. She stuck to the same style through her whole career. No, she's not a natural nor has she came up with her own moves. She was just a puppet.

You're stupid. Freestlye doesn't make a dancer a natural.

What do you mean what's Janet's excuse? lmao you make no sense. MJ coudln't dance well in his 40's at all. Janet STILL can out dance all your faves and yes I would be mad too if my fave's whole career was based off a certain artist. Aaliyah's off Janet's. HA!

Aaliyah and fatima BOTH confirmed she came up with some of her own moves.

Aaliyah has done balet, hip hop , latin, and reggae. what you talking?

and Janet freestyled? post a clip please.

Michael performing @ his 30th anniversay concert>> ANYTHING Janet has done dance wise recently and YOU know it.

and based off her career? girl, Aaliyah loved sade more than she loved janet. lmfao

and besides, Janet wanted to duet with aaliyah anyways. so HA!

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Reply #91 posted 06/07/10 10:54pm

midiscover

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Janet's so natural but she was about to pass out at mtv tribute. stop while your ahead!!

REALL natural dancing.

Not just choreography.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...azhhE1IwXA

Are you serious? That's nothing natural. HE looks like he's about to pass out lmao

and DEATH @ you saying Janet was about to pass out. When she slayed everything that night and the critics were raving the whole week. Stay mad! lmfaoooo.

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Reply #92 posted 06/07/10 10:55pm

Pressure

midiscover said:

Pressure said:

Janet's so natural but she was about to pass out at mtv tribute. stop while your ahead!!

REALL natural dancing.

Not just choreography.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...azhhE1IwXA

Are you serious? That's nothing natural. HE looks like he's about to pass out lmao

and DEATH @ you saying Janet was about to pass out. When she slayed everything that night and the critics were raving the whole week. Stay mad! lmfaoooo.

Janet got upstaged by a hologram. WAKE up!lol

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Reply #93 posted 06/07/10 10:58pm

midiscover

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midiscover said:

Janet has freestlyed on her tours. Aaliyah hasn't jumped in many different styles. She stuck to the same style through her whole career. No, she's not a natural nor has she came up with her own moves. She was just a puppet.

You're stupid. Freestlye doesn't make a dancer a natural.

What do you mean what's Janet's excuse? lmao you make no sense. MJ coudln't dance well in his 40's at all. Janet STILL can out dance all your faves and yes I would be mad too if my fave's whole career was based off a certain artist. Aaliyah's off Janet's. HA!

Aaliyah and fatima BOTH confirmed she came up with some of her own moves.

Aaliyah has done balet, hip hop , latin, and reggae. what you talking?

and Janet freestyled? post a clip please.

Michael performing @ his 30th anniversay concert>> ANYTHING Janet has done dance wise recently and YOU know it.

and based off her career? girl, Aaliyah loved sade more than she loved janet. lmfao

and besides, Janet wanted to duet with aaliyah anyways. so HA!

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and Janet has done those styles and more! Again, you're stupid. Aaliyah isn't a natural. She's a stiff broad. and I said Janet freestyled on her tours therefore, you should've went to her shows to witness it.

MJ was high as a kite and was about to pass out at that shitty concert neutral reason why he wanted Janet to perform at that concert. Thank God she declined!! She would've made him look a fool at his own concert lmao.

Janet didn't want to duet with Aaliyah lmao Trust if she did it would've happened and Aaliyah's whole career was based off Janet's = FACT. She couldn't stop talking about Janet. Her whole approach to performing was Janet, Janet, Janet. Even her music. Didn't she say her last album was her Control album or some shit like that LOL! Get mad!

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Reply #94 posted 06/07/10 10:59pm

midiscover

Pressure said:

midiscover said:

Are you serious? That's nothing natural. HE looks like he's about to pass out lmao

and DEATH @ you saying Janet was about to pass out. When she slayed everything that night and the critics were raving the whole week. Stay mad! lmfaoooo.

Janet got upstaged by a hologram. WAKE up!lol

I'm not here for your lies. Don't be mad at Janet that your fave is dead and whole career was based of her's lmfaooooo

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Reply #95 posted 06/07/10 11:06pm

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Um LMFAO! Is someone really trying to claim that Aaliyah (out of all female "dancers") is a natural and Janet (the DON, the BOSS of all female dancers and who can challenge the males, as well) isn't one.

Too much! Stan wars are just too funny, I swear! lol

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Reply #96 posted 06/07/10 11:21pm

trueiopian

Just my twocents on this whole thing:

There was no 'WOW!' factor to Aaliyah's dancing and she was hardly a natural. Her moves weren't percise nor were they difficult to grasp. They were a bit slow and dare I say- sloppy. Just my observation. She's not even well known for her dancing. IMO, it's silly to even compare her to Janet. Someone who recieved no form of training for dancing and who has the natural ability to glide through moves as if she does it in her sleep! Someone who was also innovative in creating new dance moves and popularizing a few. and lets not forget Janet influenced a whole generation (Aaliyah included!) Janet was the one who made it a standard for female artists to put dancing into performances before she hit the scene with Control no one was doing that. Also, many dancers in the industry will tell you they're influenced by Janet Jackson.

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Reply #97 posted 06/07/10 11:28pm

midiscover

^^ YASSS!! You basically summerized what I've been saying the whole time biggrin lol

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Reply #98 posted 06/07/10 11:45pm

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In my humble opinion, Janet Jackson is the greatest female dancer/performer.

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Reply #99 posted 06/08/10 1:07am

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Reply #100 posted 06/08/10 2:17am

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midiscover said:

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I love Janet but her dancing has not changed for a minute a lot of shoulders and fist...no foot work...but before you flame my ass....I started out by saying I love her....Now as far as a catwalker...that bitch has that shit on lock down!!!!!!!!...it's ridiculously sexy....refer to Son of a Gun video with Missy....that is my shit right there! I know she has the foot work cuz she freestyle one time on a early SNL show and I was like oh she can dance .

Madonna is my pic cuz that chic just has it...I don't care that she may be choreographed...she delivers and has been blowing me away with her shows everytime.....visually hands down for ME it's Madonna the Queen...

Beyonce....ehem...dancer um er NO.... mover and and a shaker...hell to the motherfucking yes......stamina she has...presence she has...she's mastered the glittery swimsuit which I'm absolutely sick to death of.....I'm waiting for her to change entirely and perfect HER OWN STYLE...anytime she referred to as a bucking horse is bad. I enjoy watching Beyonce's swagga, confidence and her beauty but so much of it can get boring....too much of a good thing can get old real quick.

Now for last let me once again say that Aaliyah's imagery was like no other...she was in a class ALL by herself....I think also is Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes life was not cut so short and she developed her solo career we would have witness some "WHOA" moment from both of these ladies....what a shame.

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That dance routine is in desparate need of the letters SOS printed on the stage floor and a helicopter on the ceiling.

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Reply #101 posted 06/08/10 6:42am

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trueiopian said:

Just my twocents on this whole thing:

There was no 'WOW!' factor to Aaliyah's dancing and she was hardly a natural. Her moves weren't percise nor were they difficult to grasp. They were a bit slow and dare I say- sloppy. Just my observation. She's not even well known for her dancing. IMO, it's silly to even compare her to Janet. Someone who recieved no form of training for dancing and who has the natural ability to glide through moves as if she does it in her sleep! Someone who was also innovative in creating new dance moves and popularizing a few. and lets not forget Janet influenced a whole generation (Aaliyah included!) Janet was the one who made it a standard for female artists to put dancing into performances before she hit the scene with Control no one was doing that. Also, many dancers in the industry will tell you they're influenced by Janet Jackson.

I never said Aaliyah danced better than Janet. so that essay was pointless. There wasnt a wow factor to her dancing (to you) because Aaliyah was NEVER a flashy type dancer. She wasnt about making your eyes pop, she was just graceful, like a ballerina. and LMFAO @ Aaliyah being sloppy. She was VERY precise, especially in are you that somebody. If one thing that aaliyah is not in dancing, it's being sloppy. if not, show and prove.

and Aaliyah's moves were simple looking, but they were NOT simple. Even IF her moves were easy, that has nothing to do with her sensual MOVEMENTS. High school musical has some pretty nice choreo, so i guess they dance better than alot of people. LMFAO.

and she is well known for her dancing. wtf? EVERYBODY was trying to do the moves from are you that somebody.

For instance, alot of people I know say it's hard to do the "zipper" move she did in ayts.

alot of people say it was hard for them to do the cane dance she did in try again.

Better yet, alot of people even said she did great technical dancing in HEELS.

again, ANYYY dummy could LEARN choreography. I guess high school musical are the best dancers we have, since they glide pretty good as well.

a reason why Janet's dancing is so iconinc because she was the FIRST to do it.

She's not that natural. she learns choreography like EVERYBODY else.

She's not that natural because she cant even dance anymore (despite the fact that MJ could still do moves while he was old)

Ciara is more natural than Janet would ever be, and Thats why Janet was so threatened by her.

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Reply #102 posted 06/08/10 6:48am

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http://www.youtube.com/wa...JT4f--QX0U

fast forward to aaliyah

anywho, If Ciara was given the right material, she would for damn sure be the better dancer Janet could ever be.

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Reply #103 posted 06/08/10 6:55am

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midiscover said:

DAV123 said:

I love Janet but her dancing has not changed for a minute a lot of shoulders and fist...no foot work...but before you flame my ass....I started out by saying I love her....Now as far as a catwalker...that bitch has that shit on lock down!!!!!!!!...it's ridiculously sexy....refer to Son of a Gun video with Missy....that is my shit right there! I know she has the foot work cuz she freestyle one time on a early SNL show and I was like oh she can dance .

Madonna is my pic cuz that chic just has it...I don't care that she may be choreographed...she delivers and has been blowing me away with her shows everytime.....visually hands down for ME it's Madonna the Queen...

Beyonce....ehem...dancer um er NO.... mover and and a shaker...hell to the motherfucking yes......stamina she has...presence she has...she's mastered the glittery swimsuit which I'm absolutely sick to death of.....I'm waiting for her to change entirely and perfect HER OWN STYLE...anytime she referred to as a bucking horse is bad. I enjoy watching Beyonce's swagga, confidence and her beauty but so much of it can get boring....too much of a good thing can get old real quick.

Now for last let me once again say that Aaliyah's imagery was like no other...she was in a class ALL by herself....I think also is Lisa "Left Eye" Lopes life was not cut so short and she developed her solo career we would have witness some "WHOA" moment from both of these ladies....what a shame.

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lmaooo. She's no dancer. That's for sure lol

and Aaliyah was just a decent mover. Nothing intriguing about her dancing. She wasn't a true dancer.

u place ONE clip up dude....rolleyes

I'm talking about Madonna's shows over the past few years since she's been out. True dancer are to one's opinion...I can say that Alvin Ailey dancers are real dancers and shit everyone who I admire down....but the question was who out the three was the best...my pic was Madonna and it was my opinion...you don't have to mock it just keep it moving.....Good Lawd....

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Reply #104 posted 06/08/10 6:57am

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Hell, a girl in panties shaking her ass could "wow" you more than a TRAINED ballet dancer, so I guess the booty shaker is the better dancer. lmfaoo.

Janet is just a chick with choreography. Like EVERYBODY else (except Ciara and Mya)

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Reply #105 posted 06/08/10 9:59am

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midiscover said:



Pressure said:




midiscover said:




Janet has freestlyed on her tours. Aaliyah hasn't jumped in many different styles. She stuck to the same style through her whole career. No, she's not a natural nor has she came up with her own moves. She was just a puppet.



You're stupid. Freestlye doesn't make a dancer a natural.



What do you mean what's Janet's excuse? lmao you make no sense. MJ coudln't dance well in his 40's at all. Janet STILL can out dance all your faves and yes I would be mad too if my fave's whole career was based off a certain artist. Aaliyah's off Janet's. HA!



Aaliyah and fatima BOTH confirmed she came up with some of her own moves.


Aaliyah has done balet, hip hop , latin, and reggae. what you talking?


and Janet freestyled? post a clip please.



Michael performing @ his 30th anniversay concert>> ANYTHING Janet has done dance wise recently and YOU know it.



and based off her career? girl, Aaliyah loved sade more than she loved janet. lmfao


and besides, Janet wanted to duet with aaliyah anyways. so HA!


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and Janet has done those styles and more! Again, you're stupid. Aaliyah isn't a natural. She's a stiff broad. and I said Janet freestyled on her tours therefore, you should've went to her shows to witness it.



MJ was high as a kite and was about to pass out at that shitty concert neutral reason why he wanted Janet to perform at that concert. Thank God she declined!! She would've made him look a fool at his own concert lmao.



Janet didn't want to duet with Aaliyah lmao Trust if she did it would've happened and Aaliyah's whole career was based off Janet's = FACT. She couldn't stop talking about Janet. Her whole approach to performing was Janet, Janet, Janet. Even her music. Didn't she say her last album was her Control album or some shit like that LOL! Get mad!



Either post a video of a janet freestyle, or Im still convinced that Janet can't freestyle dance.
Janet was one of aaliyahs inspirations. Never denied that. But she loved SADe more than Janet. Fact. Aaliyah said that Sade was her musical soulmate, poor Janet. And Janet wanted to duet with her. She even talked about aaliyah on radio shows. She even said that she loves how she always comes different. Why else wud she do the vh1 tribute to aaliyah? They couldn't do the song together because she had to fly to australia. The same thing happened with her duet with nine inch nails. Come on now.

If aaliyah was stiff to you, that's your opinion. Some dummies don't know the difference between "smooth" and "stiff" I could show u clips of STIFF dancing, and aaliyah doesn't resemble that.

Based on your logic, aaliyah was natural. She made up her own moves, had a unique style, and also was versatile. So if your sayin she wasn't natural your sayin Janet wasn't either because im just going off of your reasoning hun.

And on the MJ tip. Janet wuda outdanced MJ at the concert because she was Younger. However, Michael dancing in his 40's>> Janet dancing in her 40's. Janet hasn't done a great job in dancing since the superbowl. She aint been right since!

I can't take you seriously, especially even having the pathetic thought of Janets Choreographed ass was a match for Michael.
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Reply #106 posted 06/08/10 10:21am

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Reply #107 posted 06/08/10 12:02pm

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Pfft. Janet pisses it over the other two. No fucking contest at all, occasionally, i've actually thought she was better than Mike. Then i saw him tap, or some shit he threw down in the mid-seventies, then i change my mind. So yeah, Jan. Madge or Beweavey!? pleeeaaase

I often thought the same thing. Michael had tremendous natural talent, but towards the last fifteen years of his career, he did the same moves. Always. Whereas Janet kept expanding her repertoire and could do many more things in her performances.

Janet.

Madonna and Beyonce are nowhere near Janet's dancing ability.

As for Jennifer Lopez and Paula Abdul and Britney Spears? All great dancers. Maybe, just maybe, Paula has the most training of all of them. Shakira is a bit of a one-note wonder, but still good.

Whitney Houston...Worst. Dancer. Ever.

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Reply #108 posted 06/08/10 12:51pm

midiscover

Pressure said:

midiscover said:

and Janet has done those styles and more! Again, you're stupid. Aaliyah isn't a natural. She's a stiff broad. and I said Janet freestyled on her tours therefore, you should've went to her shows to witness it.

MJ was high as a kite and was about to pass out at that shitty concert neutral reason why he wanted Janet to perform at that concert. Thank God she declined!! She would've made him look a fool at his own concert lmao.

Janet didn't want to duet with Aaliyah lmao Trust if she did it would've happened and Aaliyah's whole career was based off Janet's = FACT. She couldn't stop talking about Janet. Her whole approach to performing was Janet, Janet, Janet. Even her music. Didn't she say her last album was her Control album or some shit like that LOL! Get mad!

Either post a video of a janet freestyle, or Im still convinced that Janet can't freestyle dance. Janet was one of aaliyahs inspirations. Never denied that. But she loved SADe more than Janet. Fact. Aaliyah said that Sade was her musical soulmate, poor Janet. And Janet wanted to duet with her. She even talked about aaliyah on radio shows. She even said that she loves how she always comes different. Why else wud she do the vh1 tribute to aaliyah? They couldn't do the song together because she had to fly to australia. The same thing happened with her duet with nine inch nails. Come on now. If aaliyah was stiff to you, that's your opinion. Some dummies don't know the difference between "smooth" and "stiff" I could show u clips of STIFF dancing, and aaliyah doesn't resemble that. Based on your logic, aaliyah was natural. She made up her own moves, had a unique style, and also was versatile. So if your sayin she wasn't natural your sayin Janet wasn't either because im just going off of your reasoning hun. And on the MJ tip. Janet wuda outdanced MJ at the concert because she was Younger. However, Michael dancing in his 40's>> Janet dancing in her 40's. Janet hasn't done a great job in dancing since the superbowl. She aint been right since! I can't take you seriously, especially even having the pathetic thought of Janets Choreographed ass was a match for Michael.

You sound nutty as hell! confused Once again freestyling doesn't make someone a natural dancer. Aaliyah couldn't freestyle nor could she dance. Her whole career was based off Janet's and Janet didn't want to duet with her. Nor has Janet ever done a tribute for her LMAO! The only tribute Janet has ever done was for her brother. Stop talking out of your ass. Of course, Janet said a few nice things about her. She died tragically at such a young and was one of Janet's little carbon copies. What did you expect? HA! Aaliyah is stiff Case closed. You won't convince me otherwise. She's in no way smooth nor did she have a "unique" style. Ripping off Janet's style doesn't make her unique in anyway. Like R. Kelly said "Age ain't nothing but a number" so Janet being younger than wouldn't be a reason as to why she would outdance him because she would still outdance every bitch in the industry at 44 years of age. MJ couldn't dance for shit in his 40's. He stuck to same stale dancing it just got more stiffer and stiffer. Poor guy! Don't worry, I never took you seriously. You're an Aaliyah stan trying to claim she's a natural. It doesn't get any more delusional then that!

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Reply #109 posted 06/08/10 1:04pm

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I never said Aaliyah danced better than Janet. so that essay was pointless. There wasnt a wow factor to her dancing (to you) because Aaliyah was NEVER a flashy type dancer. She wasnt about making your eyes pop, she was just graceful, like a ballerina. and LMFAO @ Aaliyah being sloppy. She was VERY precise, especially in are you that somebody. If one thing that aaliyah is not in dancing, it's being sloppy. if not, show and prove.

and Aaliyah's moves were simple looking, but they were NOT simple. Even IF her moves were easy, that has nothing to do with her sensual MOVEMENTS. High school musical has some pretty nice choreo, so i guess they dance better than alot of people. LMFAO.

and she is well known for her dancing. wtf? EVERYBODY was trying to do the moves from are you that somebody.

For instance, alot of people I know say it's hard to do the "zipper" move she did in ayts.

alot of people say it was hard for them to do the cane dance she did in try again.

Better yet, alot of people even said she did great technical dancing in HEELS.

again, ANYYY dummy could LEARN choreography. I guess high school musical are the best dancers we have, since they glide pretty good as well.

a reason why Janet's dancing is so iconinc because she was the FIRST to do it.

She's not that natural. she learns choreography like EVERYBODY else.

She's not that natural because she cant even dance anymore (despite the fact that MJ could still do moves while he was old)

Ciara is more natural than Janet would ever be, and Thats why Janet was so threatened by her.

Aaliyah couldn't dance period Deal with it

and why would Queen Janet, an aritst who sold over 100 million albums around the world feel threatened by a flop like Cedric? Come a again, failed monkey. Janet's only threat is herself - the greatest female dancer and entertainer of all time, bitch! Eat your heart out!

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Reply #110 posted 06/08/10 2:04pm

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Why bring Mike into this? His place in history is solidified as is James Brown's and Fred Astaire's

and why is Madonna in the discussion? I thought this thread is about dancers

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Reply #111 posted 06/08/10 2:38pm

trueiopian

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I never said Aaliyah danced better than Janet. so that essay was pointless.

Of course, you didn't! It's written in stone that Janet is the greatest female dancer of all time.

Right, pointless enough for you to respond to it? wink

There wasnt a wow factor to her dancing (to you) because Aaliyah was NEVER a flashy type dancer. She wasnt about making your eyes pop, she was just graceful, like a ballerina.

No, lovebun. There wasn't any 'WOW' factor to anyone with a set of eyes. What exactly do you mean by flashy dancer? There was nothing graceful about her dancing. Are you really comparing this to a ballerina? -

and LMFAO @ Aaliyah being sloppy. She was VERY precise, especially in are you that somebody. If one thing that aaliyah is not in dancing, it's being sloppy. if not, show and prove.

Watch video above. No precise moves just sloppy and slow.

and Aaliyah's moves were simple looking, but they were NOT simple. Even IF her moves were easy, that has nothing to do with her sensual MOVEMENTS. High school musical has some pretty nice choreo, so i guess they dance better than alot of people. LMFAO.

LMFAO! What are you talking about? You probably don't even know. Her choreo was simple . Watch the video above.

and she is well known for her dancing. wtf? EVERYBODY was trying to do the moves from are you that somebody.

For instance, alot of people I know say it's hard to do the "zipper" move she did in ayts.

alot of people say it was hard for them to do the cane dance she did in try again.

Better yet, alot of people even said she did great technical dancing in HEELS.

"Everybody" in your little world. But in the REAL world no one was checking for Aaliyah's dance moves.

again, ANYYY dummy could LEARN choreography. I guess high school musical are the best dancers we have, since they glide pretty good as well.

Again, you make no sense and I'm aware that anyone can learn choregraphy. Since choregraphy basically means any planned movement.

a reason why Janet's dancing is so iconinc because she was the FIRST to do it.

No shit!

She's not that natural. she learns choreography like EVERYBODY else.

Janet recieved no prior training to dancing whatsoever! she IS a natural dancer whether you hate to admit or not.

She's not that natural because she cant even dance anymore (despite the fact that MJ could still do moves while he was old)

Stupid, Janet is still dancing like as if she's in her 20's. Even IF her dancing isn't as polished as it was before that doesn't mean she isn't a natural. and why are you bringing up MJ? His dancing ability declined as he got older and of couse he could do HIS own moves, stupid. Just as Janet can do her own.

Ciara is more natural than Janet would ever be, and Thats why Janet was so threatened by her.

No, she's not LMAO! Why would Janet ever be threatened by Ciara when she created her? Janet is the BOSS. Hate it or love it. She influenced all your favorite artist and she's the greatest female dancer of all time.

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Reply #112 posted 06/08/10 2:56pm

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I'm surprised nobody said Mya shrug

MYA would clean up the floor with these 3, no one says her because they dont like her and her music, Beyonce is a nutjob as a dancer, and shouldnt even be considered one


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Reply #113 posted 06/08/10 5:06pm

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Whitney Houston...Worst. Dancer. Ever.

Imma raise you one, Mariah Carey!

1. Janet-best dancer, natural dancer, and best choreography...I would say what Janet has done for pop/R&B music and dance changed the game. That's just irrefutable.

2. Ciara and Mya would be the true runner-ups to the Janet dance throne.

NOTE: Paula Abdul and Jennifer Lopez should be recognized for their dance skills as well.

3. If P!nk focused on dancing she would kill it.

4. Britney had some lil skills for a minute.

5. Beyonce needs to be grateful she can sing otherwise her dancing skills would net her nothing but dollars bills tucked in a G-string. Kelly Rowland is a better dancer than Beyonce....

6. I've never heard someone try to seriously bash Aaliyah and her dancing disbelief many of the top choreographers and industry people complimented Aaliyah's dance skills, her natural grace and fluidity, and her complex routines. Whatever the deal is, I think that at some point it is become serious baiting, flaming, and I find it extremely disrespectful to bash someone who passed away before reaching the height of their natural skills, which were already tremendous. Can folk just agree to disagree and let Aaliyah's memory RIP already because this ugliness is wearing on my last nerve.

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Reply #114 posted 06/08/10 5:10pm

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Whitney Houston...Worst. Dancer. Ever.

Imma raise you one, Mariah Carey!

1. Janet-best dancer, natural dancer, and best choreography...I would say what Janet has done for pop/R&B music and dance changed the game. That's just irrefutable.

2. Ciara and Mya would be the true runner-ups to the Janet dance throne.

NOTE: Paula Abdul and Jennifer Lopez should be recognized for their dance skills as well.

3. If P!nk focused on dancing she would kill it.

4. Britney had some lil skills for a minute.

5. Beyonce needs to be grateful she can sing otherwise her dancing skills would net her nothing but dollars bills tucked in a G-string. Kelly Rowland is a better dancer than Beyonce....

6. I've never heard someone try to seriously bash Aaliyah and her dancing disbelief many of the top choreographers and industry people complimented Aaliyah's dance skills, her natural grace and fluidity, and her complex routines. Whatever the deal is, I think that at some point it is become serious baiting, flaming, and I find it extremely disrespectful to bash someone who passed away before reaching the height of their natural skills, which were already tremendous. Can folk just agree to disagree and let Aaliyah's memory RIP already because this ugliness is wearing on my last nerve.

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Reply #115 posted 06/08/10 5:47pm

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I never said Aaliyah danced better than Janet. so that essay was pointless.

Of course, you didn't! It's written in stone that Janet is the greatest female dancer of all time.

Right, pointless enough for you to respond to it? wink

There wasnt a wow factor to her dancing (to you) because Aaliyah was NEVER a flashy type dancer. She wasnt about making your eyes pop, she was just graceful, like a ballerina.

No, lovebun. There wasn't any 'WOW' factor to anyone with a set of eyes. What exactly do you mean by flashy dancer? There was nothing graceful about her dancing. Are you really comparing this to a ballerina? -

and LMFAO @ Aaliyah being sloppy. She was VERY precise, especially in are you that somebody. If one thing that aaliyah is not in dancing, it's being sloppy. if not, show and prove.

Watch video above. No precise moves just sloppy and slow.

and Aaliyah's moves were simple looking, but they were NOT simple. Even IF her moves were easy, that has nothing to do with her sensual MOVEMENTS. High school musical has some pretty nice choreo, so i guess they dance better than alot of people. LMFAO.

LMFAO! What are you talking about? You probably don't even know. Her choreo was simple . Watch the video above.

and she is well known for her dancing. wtf? EVERYBODY was trying to do the moves from are you that somebody.

For instance, alot of people I know say it's hard to do the "zipper" move she did in ayts.

alot of people say it was hard for them to do the cane dance she did in try again.

Better yet, alot of people even said she did great technical dancing in HEELS.

"Everybody" in your little world. But in the REAL world no one was checking for Aaliyah's dance moves.

again, ANYYY dummy could LEARN choreography. I guess high school musical are the best dancers we have, since they glide pretty good as well.

Again, you make no sense and I'm aware that anyone can learn choregraphy. Since choregraphy basically means any planned movement.

a reason why Janet's dancing is so iconinc because she was the FIRST to do it.

No shit!

She's not that natural. she learns choreography like EVERYBODY else.

Janet recieved no prior training to dancing whatsoever! she IS a natural dancer whether you hate to admit or not.

She's not that natural because she cant even dance anymore (despite the fact that MJ could still do moves while he was old)

Stupid, Janet is still dancing like as if she's in her 20's. Even IF her dancing isn't as polished as it was before that doesn't mean she isn't a natural. and why are you bringing up MJ? His dancing ability declined as he got older and of couse he could do HIS own moves, stupid. Just as Janet can do her own.

Ciara is more natural than Janet would ever be, and Thats why Janet was so threatened by her.

No, she's not LMAO! Why would Janet ever be threatened by Ciara when she created her? Janet is the BOSS. Hate it or love it. She influenced all your favorite artist and she's the greatest female dancer of all time.

Janet CANT do her own moves anymore. thats the funny part. She CANT move anymore. and yes, MJ's dancing abilities declined, but he STILL made attempts for dancing, and he still did it well, better than JAnet did in this present day.

The un precise/ sloppy moves is your blind ass opinion, anyone with eyes could see that "sloppy" was something aaliyah never did. THats just your anger talking. lmfao!

and aaliyah is known for her dancing, stupid ass. If you ask 10 people on the street to list 10 top female dancers, I can assure you that Aaliyah would AT LEAST appear on 8 of those lists.

lol @ "she didnt need training" blah blah blah. You dont NEED training when learning choreography, silly girl. (all though it DOES help). Girls who perform @ pep rallies learn choreography, and most of them dont even take dance classes. Janet was a woman with choreography, who was one of the first women to actually do full choreo and brought it to mainstream (kudos for that). But it doesnt change the fact that Janet cant do SHIT without a choreographer. Throw the bitch on stage with a beat and a mic she wouldnt know what to do. Give Janet some choreo, and she would kil the stage.

and Janet is so threatened by Ciara. Ciara has shown nothing but love to Janet but Janet shades Ciara everytime. Janet is BITTER.

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Reply #116 posted 06/08/10 5:51pm

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Reply #117 posted 06/08/10 6:16pm

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damn, let it go already.

anyone with half a brain can see Janet is the premiere female dancer, even at 40, and should also be able to see that Aaliyah could dance. It's really a non debate at this point. disbelief

this is why threads get locked up over silly shit!hmph!

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Reply #118 posted 06/08/10 6:18pm

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Pressure said:

midiscover said: Either post a video of a janet freestyle, or Im still convinced that Janet can't freestyle dance. Janet was one of aaliyahs inspirations. Never denied that. But she loved SADe more than Janet. Fact. Aaliyah said that Sade was her musical soulmate, poor Janet. And Janet wanted to duet with her. She even talked about aaliyah on radio shows. She even said that she loves how she always comes different. Why else wud she do the vh1 tribute to aaliyah? They couldn't do the song together because she had to fly to australia. The same thing happened with her duet with nine inch nails. Come on now. If aaliyah was stiff to you, that's your opinion. Some dummies don't know the difference between "smooth" and "stiff" I could show u clips of STIFF dancing, and aaliyah doesn't resemble that. Based on your logic, aaliyah was natural. She made up her own moves, had a unique style, and also was versatile. So if your sayin she wasn't natural your sayin Janet wasn't either because im just going off of your reasoning hun. And on the MJ tip. Janet wuda outdanced MJ at the concert because she was Younger. However, Michael dancing in his 40's>> Janet dancing in her 40's. Janet hasn't done a great job in dancing since the superbowl. She aint been right since! I can't take you seriously, especially even having the pathetic thought of Janets Choreographed ass was a match for Michael.

You sound nutty as hell! confused Once again freestyling doesn't make someone a natural dancer. Aaliyah couldn't freestyle nor could she dance. Her whole career was based off Janet's and Janet didn't want to duet with her. Nor has Janet ever done a tribute for her LMAO! The only tribute Janet has ever done was for her brother. Stop talking out of your ass. Of course, Janet said a few nice things about her. She died tragically at such a young and was one of Janet's little carbon copies. What did you expect? HA! Aaliyah is stiff Case closed. You won't convince me otherwise. She's in no way smooth nor did she have a "unique" style. Ripping off Janet's style doesn't make her unique in anyway. Like R. Kelly said "Age ain't nothing but a number" so Janet being younger than wouldn't be a reason as to why she would outdance him because she would still outdance every bitch in the industry at 44 years of age. MJ couldn't dance for shit in his 40's. He stuck to same stale dancing it just got more stiffer and stiffer. Poor guy! Don't worry, I never took you seriously. You're an Aaliyah stan trying to claim she's a natural. It doesn't get any more delusional then that!

Good day, nut job! wave

dumb ape, THIS is stiff dancing. compare, and contrast.

http://www.youtube.com/wa...xrp8324jtc

http://www.youtube.com/wa...NLUthL6-BU

Lol @ this FAKE Janet stan. dont even now that much about your fave, do you?

http://www.pp2g.tv/vYH1!YnY_.aspx

also, this quote was from janet in 2000.

http://books.google.com/b...mp;f=false

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related

fast forward to 2:45

aaliyah did not bite of Janet's style (in dancing) they danced nothing alike.

and lol @ Janet outdancing ANYBODY. damn sure cant outdance ciara, mya, hell not even beyonce now. ANYBODY can. Janet doesnt even dance anymore! wake up girl.

Aaliyah was a natural, and YOU said it dummy. Tata.

oh and by the way. Michael will forever shit on Janet. Vocally, musically, dance wise, sales, etc. Janet cant win.

aaliyah had a smooth, fluid style. who else does that? cassie the imatator? LMFAO

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