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Thread started 05/18/10 8:02pm

Zandi5

RUfus and Chaka Khan's Masterjam

RUfus and Chaka Khan's Masterjam
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Reply #1 posted 05/24/10 11:49am

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Reply #2 posted 05/24/10 3:40pm

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Reply #3 posted 05/24/10 5:06pm

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Great album, very underated IMO
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Reply #4 posted 05/25/10 10:57pm

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"Masterjam" was certified Platinum so it wasn't that underrated. biggrin
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Reply #5 posted 05/26/10 2:16am

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kitbradley said:

"Masterjam" was certified Platinum so it wasn't that underrated. biggrin


It is by ALOT of Rufus fans on the org
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Reply #6 posted 05/26/10 9:11am

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NOT by THIS Org'er.....adore that album. That year...that vibe....divine.
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Reply #7 posted 05/26/10 9:28am

Harlepolis

This is my FAVE song from the album...


Overall, I'm not that crazy about the album, between Geroge Benson & Michale Jackson who got the bulk of Uncle Q's attention, I'd say this one had the sloppy seconds treatment,,,,I prefer Camouflage over it.
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Reply #8 posted 05/26/10 11:31am

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Harlepolis said:

Overall, I'm not that crazy about the album, between George Benson & Michale Jackson who got the bulk of Uncle Q's attention, I'd say this one had the sloppy seconds treatment,,,,I prefer Camouflage over it.


I agree,this album really isn't that great.It's not nearly as strong as the albums that came before it.It's obvious that Quincy was more focused on MJ's 'Off The Wall'.There are a few cool songs on 'Masterjam' but much of the music sounds formulaic."Do You Love What You Feel" is the highlight.
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Reply #9 posted 05/26/10 11:32am

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another problem: on a few tracks,Chaka's mighty vocals seem to be buried in the mix.
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Reply #10 posted 05/26/10 11:50am

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I'd say this one had the sloppy seconds treatment,,,,I prefer Camouflage over it.[/quote]


Agreed...Camouflage was a MUCH better record. It was poorly received at the time, but I spin that one more often than the earlier "classic" Rufus releases.
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Reply #11 posted 05/26/10 4:58pm

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LOL!! Now I see Camouflage as the "throw away" album, Q's throw away's were way better then this album IMO.
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Reply #12 posted 05/26/10 7:18pm

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Abdul said:

LOL!! Now I see Camouflage as the "throw away" album, Q's throw away's were way better then this album IMO.


I know I'm in the minority but Camouflage is my favorite Rufus album! Highlight, Losers in Love, True Love, Sharing The Love, Quandary...all classic joints!

I just got it on CD last year along with Masterjam, which is not Quincy's best moment.
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Reply #13 posted 05/27/10 12:34am

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eek Now, this is the first time I'm ever hearing folks say they liked the "Camouflage" album! Even most of the folks over on Chaka's board aren't that crazy about that particular title.

As far as "Masterjam" is concerned, Chaka sounded fantastic on this album. She makes you forget all about the original version of "Body Heat" with her smoldering performance. "What Am I Missing" seems to strike a chord with a lot of people.

I wasn't that crazy about the later Rufus albums because Chaka was not the lead vocal on all of the songs. I once read because she was experiencing so much success as a solo artist, she simply wasn't showing up for some of the recording sessions with Rufus. Quincy said one time he had to wrestle her down to the ground and make her promise to start showing up to the "Masterjam" sessions. lol
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Reply #14 posted 05/27/10 4:34am

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kitbradley said:

eek Now, this is the first time I'm ever hearing folks say they liked the "Camouflage" album! Even most of the folks over on Chaka's board aren't that crazy about that particular title.

As far as "Masterjam" is concerned, Chaka sounded fantastic on this album. She makes you forget all about the original version of "Body Heat" with her smoldering performance. "What Am I Missing" seems to strike a chord with a lot of people.

I wasn't that crazy about the later Rufus albums because Chaka was not the lead vocal on all of the songs. I once read because she was experiencing so much success as a solo artist, she simply wasn't showing up for some of the recording sessions with Rufus. Quincy said one time he had to wrestle her down to the ground and make her promise to start showing up to the "Masterjam" sessions. lol


See told ya kit, most on org aren't feelin' Masterjam as much as the other Rufus albums. I personally feel that it's they're second best lp, only behind "Rufusized"
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Reply #15 posted 05/27/10 8:40am

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Masterjam is when they started to go with the motions instead of sticking with their own unique sound.

When Rags To Rufus, Rufusized, Rufus FT. CK, Ask Rufus and hell, even Street Player were released,,,they already coined their style.

But since disco was all the rage(and I love it!) I guess it put a pressure on them to release a disco record,,,even though they clearly sound out of place doing it IMO.

I heard that Chaka wanted to do the Rock/Jazz oriented thing, which didn't sit well with the record company nor the Rufus members(who already were experiencing personal clashes).

Call me crazy, but give me their Chaka-less albums Numbers & Party Till You're Broke over Masterjam any day of the week shrug it least they got back to sounding focused in those albums. Quincy thought he was producing Patti Austin when he did Masterjam lol I don't blame Chaka for not showing intrest at all, comparing to most of her stuff, she sounded tame in that album,,,,you DON'T tame a wild child, you let her do her thing.
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Harlepolis said:

Masterjam is when they started to go with the motions instead of sticking with their own unique sound.

When Rags To Rufus, Rufusized, Rufus FT. CK, Ask Rufus and hell, even Street Player were released,,,they already coined their style.

But since disco was all the rage(and I love it!) I guess it put a pressure on them to release a disco record,,,even though they clearly sound out of place doing it IMO.

I heard that Chaka wanted to do the Rock/Jazz oriented thing, which didn't sit well with the record company nor the Rufus members(who already were experiencing personal clashes).

Call me crazy, but give me their Chaka-less albums Numbers & Party Till You're Broke over Masterjam any day of the week shrug it least they got back to sounding focused in those albums. Quincy thought he was producing Patti Austin when he did Masterjam lol I don't blame Chaka for not showing intrest at all, comparing to most of her stuff, she sounded tame in that album,,,,you DON'T tame a wild child, you let her do her thing.
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Wow, Numbers? Party Til You're Broke? over Masterjam?, yeah harle u are crazy, biggrin! I don't even consider those Rufus albums, without Chaka in the fold they were just Tony and the boys havin' a jam session.
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Reply #17 posted 05/27/10 6:27pm

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Harlepolis said:

Masterjam is when they started to go with the motions instead of sticking with their own unique sound.

When Rags To Rufus, Rufusized, Rufus FT. CK, Ask Rufus and hell, even Street Player were released,,,they already coined their style.

But since disco was all the rage(and I love it!) I guess it put a pressure on them to release a disco record,,,even though they clearly sound out of place doing it IMO.

I heard that Chaka wanted to do the Rock/Jazz oriented thing, which didn't sit well with the record company nor the Rufus members(who already were experiencing personal clashes).

Call me crazy, but give me their Chaka-less albums Numbers & Party Till You're Broke over Masterjam any day of the week shrug it least they got back to sounding focused in those albums. Quincy thought he was producing Patti Austin when he did Masterjam lol I don't blame Chaka for not showing intrest at all, comparing to most of her stuff, she sounded tame in that album,,,,you DON'T tame a wild child, you let her do her thing.
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Reply #18 posted 05/27/10 7:25pm

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Abdul said:

Harlepolis said:

Masterjam is when they started to go with the motions instead of sticking with their own unique sound.

When Rags To Rufus, Rufusized, Rufus FT. CK, Ask Rufus and hell, even Street Player were released,,,they already coined their style.

But since disco was all the rage(and I love it!) I guess it put a pressure on them to release a disco record,,,even though they clearly sound out of place doing it IMO.

I heard that Chaka wanted to do the Rock/Jazz oriented thing, which didn't sit well with the record company nor the Rufus members(who already were experiencing personal clashes).

Call me crazy, but give me their Chaka-less albums Numbers & Party Till You're Broke over Masterjam any day of the week shrug it least they got back to sounding focused in those albums. Quincy thought he was producing Patti Austin when he did Masterjam lol I don't blame Chaka for not showing intrest at all, comparing to most of her stuff, she sounded tame in that album,,,,you DON'T tame a wild child, you let her do her thing.
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Wow, Numbers? Party Til You're Broke? over Masterjam?, yeah harle u are crazy, biggrin! I don't even consider those Rufus albums, without Chaka in the fold they were just Tony and the boys havin' a jam session.


Yeah thats what I thought too untill I listened to them without my "Chakaholic" mode on lol seriously, Lalomie Washburn and Paulette McWilliams put their foot down,,,maybe not as firmly as Chaka in her previous albums, but they threw down.

Give it a try....
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Reply #19 posted 05/28/10 4:46am

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Yeah thats what I thought too untill I listened to them without my "Chakaholic" mode on lol seriously, Lalomie Washburn and Paulette McWilliams put their foot down,,,maybe not as firmly as Chaka in her previous albums, but they threw down.

Give it a try....


I grew up with those albums in my house Harle, my mom was a big Rufus fan. I just never got into those albums like the other ones, I still blast Masterjam and Rufusized weekly.
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Reply #20 posted 05/28/10 11:09am

SoulAlive

I just listened to this album again,to make sure that I wasn't being harsh in my assessment of it lol I like the songs "Do You Love What You Feel","Any Love" and "I'm Dancing For Your Love",but I don't know....there's a "disco blandness" throughout.The music sounds formulaic and by-the-numbers.On previous Rufus albums,there was always alot of great playing by the bandmembers.The music on this album sounds like studio musicians."Do You Love What You Feel" really stands out...it's the only truly dynamic track.
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Reply #21 posted 05/28/10 5:40pm

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Personally, I DISPISE the Masterjam album...I think its their weakest effort...Camoflauge was much better IMO...to me, Quincy had Rufus sounding way too polished and soul-less..IMO "Rufusized" was the pinnacle of the Rufus sound.
Not to say there arent some good songs on that album.....I love "Heaven Bound" and "What Am I Missing." "Live In Me" and "Do You Love What You Feel" are decent. "Any Love" sounds like a studio outtake from Chaka's solo album, yet its a tolerable tune. The rest of the disc is embarassing IMO
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Reply #22 posted 05/28/10 10:53pm

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Their pic-disc single of "Do You Love What You Feel" :

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Reply #23 posted 06/01/10 7:30am

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DigitalGardin said:

Personally, I DISPISE the Masterjam album...I think its their weakest effort...Camoflauge was much better IMO...to me, Quincy had Rufus sounding way too polished and soul-less..IMO "Rufusized" was the pinnacle of the Rufus sound. Not to say there arent some good songs on that album.....I love "Heaven Bound" and "What Am I Missing." "Live In Me" and "Do You Love What You Feel" are decent. "Any Love" sounds like a studio outtake from Chaka's solo album, yet its a tolerable tune. The rest of the disc is embarassing IMO

I agree.Quincy made them sound a little too polished and slick.My favorite Rufus and Chaka album is their 1975 self-titled disc...the one with "Sweet Thing".

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