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Reply #90 posted 06/01/10 10:00am

AshK

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After MJ's passing you kind of have to say the whole music industry. It's not the same without him.

And those Artists who tried to compete with him and say he wasn't really any competiton - let's see how well they do now.

For me after MJ's passing my enthusiasm for music hit an all time low for a few months, it wasn't really until Badu's last album that I started feeling passionate about music again. So no, I don't think the industry has changed I think it's just almost like a weird grieving phase MJ fans are going through. I imagine fans of any artist who has passed away feel the same thing.

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Reply #91 posted 06/01/10 11:37am

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AshK said:

carlcranshaw said:

After MJ's passing you kind of have to say the whole music industry. It's not the same without him.

And those Artists who tried to compete with him and say he wasn't really any competiton - let's see how well they do now.

For me after MJ's passing my enthusiasm for music hit an all time low for a few months, it wasn't really until Badu's last album that I started feeling passionate about music again. So no, I don't think the industry has changed I think it's just almost like a weird grieving phase MJ fans are going through. I imagine fans of any artist who has passed away feel the same thing.

Well, I've probably overstated it but it would be nice if he would have made his comeback and were still here to enjoy his family.

I think to be more realistic and less emotional the Music Industry has suffered because of file sharing. The power of the Internet. (No more mystique for Artists.) Record Companies going down the tubes

No record stores like Tower and Virgin. You could go in and see "Upcoming Releases" and check out a CD at a listening station. Or see a video.

You sometimes never know an Artist will have a new album out.

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Reply #92 posted 06/01/10 12:06pm

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dag said:

But don´t you feel that the inspiration seems to have left everyone in the past ten years? It feels dull, emotionless in the music world.

I don't believe that it's left everyone. There's still a lot of great music being made. But something's happened to the living "greats". A lot of them seem to have run out of good ideas. sigh

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Reply #93 posted 06/01/10 12:08pm

Graycap23

4got 2 add: Sade

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Reply #94 posted 06/01/10 12:10pm

meow85

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chocolate1 said:

I was never a "fan" per se, but I didn't mind Beyonce.

Now she makes my skin crawl! confused

nod I liked her when she was with the first Destiny's Child. Now? ill

Ditto. You wouldn't know it from my firey loathing of the woman now, but way back when DC were first out I kind of liked her. The turning point for me was when Destiny's Child won those first Grammy's and Bouncy's ego got huge.

Now I just want someone to beat her with a blunt object.

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Reply #95 posted 06/01/10 12:17pm

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carlcranshaw said:

AshK said:

carlcranshaw said:

After MJ's passing you kind of have to say the whole music industry. It's not the same without him.

And those Artists who tried to compete with him and say he wasn't really any competiton - let's see how well they do now.

For me after MJ's passing my enthusiasm for music hit an all time low for a few months, it wasn't really until Badu's last album that I started feeling passionate about music again. So no, I don't think the industry has changed I think it's just almost like a weird grieving phase MJ fans are going through. I imagine fans of any artist who has passed away feel the same thing.

Well, I've probably overstated it but it would be nice if he would have made his comeback and were still here to enjoy his family.

I think to be more realistic and less emotional the Music Industry has suffered because of file sharing. The power of the Internet. (No more mystique for Artists.) Record Companies going down the tubes

No record stores like Tower and Virgin. You could go in and see "Upcoming Releases" and check out a CD at a listening station. Or see a video.

You sometimes never know an Artist will have a new album out.

Personally, I don't believe that it's file-sharing or torrents or youtube that's to blame. I think it's the focus on immediate cash payback over true artistry on the part of the labels that's caused the bulk of the problem. The industry has had years to adjust to the realities of modern technology and so far their only resonse has been to moan and cry and sue people.

Everyone's got to get the hot name producer; everyone's got to jump on whatever the trend bandwagon of the week is; everyone's got to have their first single release be a HIT with no regard for allowing the performer to develop and mature; and everyone is gearing their releases to musically-ignorant 14 year olds.

That approach has more than proven not to work, but they just keep on doing it. What was that definition for insanity, again?

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Reply #96 posted 06/01/10 1:47pm

midiscover

rolleyes

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Reply #97 posted 06/01/10 1:55pm

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midiscover said:

rolleyes

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Reply #98 posted 06/01/10 2:12pm

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Radiohead! Man, I was so into them. In Rainbows was okay but it seems that even Thom Yorke is tired of them as he's doing his solo thing and has another side band....

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Reply #99 posted 06/01/10 3:22pm

AshK

meow85 said:

carlcranshaw said:

AshK said:

carlcranshaw said:

After MJ's passing you kind of have to say the whole music industry. It's not the same without him.

And those Artists who tried to compete with him and say he wasn't really any competiton - let's see how well they do now.

For me after MJ's passing my enthusiasm for music hit an all time low for a few months, it wasn't really until Badu's last album that I started feeling passionate about music again. So no, I don't think the industry has changed I think it's just almost like a weird grieving phase MJ fans are going through. I imagine fans of any artist who has passed away feel the same thing.

Well, I've probably overstated it but it would be nice if he would have made his comeback and were still here to enjoy his family.

I think to be more realistic and less emotional the Music Industry has suffered because of file sharing. The power of the Internet. (No more mystique for Artists.) Record Companies going down the tubes

No record stores like Tower and Virgin. You could go in and see "Upcoming Releases" and check out a CD at a listening station. Or see a video.

You sometimes never know an Artist will have a new album out.

Personally, I don't believe that it's file-sharing or torrents or youtube that's to blame. I think it's the focus on immediate cash payback over true artistry on the part of the labels that's caused the bulk of the problem. The industry has had years to adjust to the realities of modern technology and so far their only resonse has been to moan and cry and sue people.

Everyone's got to get the hot name producer; everyone's got to jump on whatever the trend bandwagon of the week is; everyone's got to have their first single release be a HIT with no regard for allowing the performer to develop and mature; and everyone is gearing their releases to musically-ignorant 14 year olds.

That approach has more than proven not to work, but they just keep on doing it. What was that definition for insanity, again?

Selling out a fifty night residency at the O2 is a pretty decent comeback, whether or not he got to do them is almost irrelevant.

I don't think current state of the music industry is as dire as people think. There's plenty of music out there you just have to adapt and learn ways of finding it. Being a music lover is much less passive than it was before the internet, itunes, file sharing etc. I actually think that's a good thing.

Anyway....

Dr Dre

Eminem

2Pac

Musiq Soulchild

Monica

Prince...I realised I still haven't listened to LotUSFlow3r or MPLSound yet despite having then for quite a while.

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Reply #100 posted 06/01/10 8:28pm

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1. Prince -- Since the success of 3121, he has gotten musically boring again.

2. R. Kelly -- Born In The 90's & 12 Play are still classic albums. But he has been using the same 12 Play-inspired chord progression in his later work for him and for hits he produced for other people. Because of his uncontrollable lust for underage girls (counting his first wife Aaliyah), I can never listening to the songs from 12 Play the same way again.

3. Lady Gaga -- Previous threads of my own AND from other orgers about occultic symbolism is only part of the story. The overhypeness of The Fame Monster EP has gotten so high to the point that I'm really don't care for anything beside selected tracks from The Fame.

4. Janet Jackson -- Although I still care for her as an actress & an almost nude model, I've been disappointed with her as a recording artist in recent years. Knowing what I know now, she has not released another musical masterpiece since The Velvet Rope.

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Reply #101 posted 06/01/10 8:44pm

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lol

TonyVanDam said:


4. Janet Jackson -- Although I still care for her as an actress & an almost nude model...


Space for sale...
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Reply #102 posted 06/01/10 8:50pm

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sosgemini said:

lol

TonyVanDam said:


4. Janet Jackson -- Although I still care for her as an actress & an almost nude model...


If I say nothing else, Janet still has that booty. nod

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Reply #103 posted 06/01/10 11:57pm

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4. Janet Jackson -- Although I still care for her as an actress & an almost nude model, I've been disappointed with her as a recording artist in recent years. Knowing what I know now, she has not released another musical masterpiece since The Velvet Rope.

I agree Tony, all of her latest albums have been treading water, The Velvet Rope was a masterpiece, the rest are competent at best.

Maybe some artists just peak and their output declines, but often they are the last to notice it, for example Mr Nelson please take note

So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #104 posted 06/02/10 12:07am

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Atheiva Fleas

iSnatch, iRead, iDrag. For Beysus and in general. Simple.
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Reply #105 posted 06/02/10 2:35am

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No Doubt. I heart them in middle school/high school. I just simply grew out of them. Occasionally, I'll listen to a song or two, but in general , I can live without their music.

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Reply #106 posted 06/02/10 2:38am

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ehuffnsd said:

tori amos

I still listen to Tori, but her music doesn't grab me like it used to. Her music used to get to my emotional side. I think I'm just getting older and relying on other means to emotionally vent.

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Reply #107 posted 06/02/10 2:48am

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Well, it still isn't quite the same without him regardless of your opinions on Invincible.

Ya know, Invincible is definitely not my favorite album due to it being unfocused, being overproduced in some parts, and too many songs, but I've never seen it as terrible as some fans think lol

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Reply #108 posted 06/02/10 2:59am

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Darien Brockington- simply lost interest

Janet Jackson- still love her, but I haven't really been feeling her albums on a longtime basis since All For You, and even that one, but I did enjoy Discipline

New Edition- maybe I expected too much when One Love came out and then they released that song with New Kids On The Block..... neutral but I'm still hoping they'll release a good album again one day

Robin Thicke- I LOVED A Beautiful World and The Evolution of Robin Thicke.....then Something Else came out and I sensed something was wrong....then Sex Therapy came and I knew.....

Terence Trent D'Arby- maybe I haven't given his later work a better listen, whatever it is, I just haven't haven't really enjoyed his work post Symphony Of Damn

Trey Songz- I wouldn't say love but I enjoyed his first album had good expectations for him, but now it's like he doesn't know whether he wants to be R. Kelly or Yung Joc neutral

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Reply #109 posted 06/02/10 5:04am

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Jane Child

PM Dawn

Tori Amos

Sting

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Reply #110 posted 06/02/10 5:21am

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you all have called out these once beloved artist- but you have to admit that if one of them died or came out with another "hit" you'd be digging out your old lp's and reminiscing hard! nod

LOVE HARD.
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Reply #111 posted 06/02/10 6:04am

SoulAlive

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Anita Baker, it's a combination of things, but I'm done.. never to return.

I feel the same way nod I bought 'Rapture' and 'Giving You The Best That I Got' but I lost interest after that.Her subsequent albums bored me.

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Reply #112 posted 06/02/10 6:37am

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The Cure - was I some sort of girl back then?

Sade - you still look sextastic but what happened to the great songs?

Hope Sandoval/Mazzy Star - you may have taken it as far as it can go

The Chemical Brothers - I miss the block rockin' beats

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Reply #113 posted 06/02/10 8:47am

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Evvy said:

you all have called out these once beloved artist- but you have to admit that if one of them died or came out with another "hit" you'd be digging out your old lp's and reminiscing hard! nod

That's what I did with MJ... boxed I had given up on him a long time ago, but now I wish he was still here... sad


"Love Hurts.
Your lies, they cut me.
Now your words don't mean a thing.
I don't give a damn if you ever loved me..."

-Cher, "Woman's World"
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Reply #114 posted 06/02/10 8:59am

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chocolate1 said:

Evvy said:

you all have called out these once beloved artist- but you have to admit that if one of them died or came out with another "hit" you'd be digging out your old lp's and reminiscing hard! nod

That's what I did with MJ... boxed I had given up on him a long time ago, but now I wish he was still here... sad

And that's understandable. When they die, it's like you began to appreciate them and their work again.

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Reply #115 posted 06/02/10 9:13am

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Whitney Houston

"Bring friends, bring your children and bring foot spray 'cause it's gon' be funky." ~ Prince

A kiss on the lips, is betta than a knife in the back ~ Sheila E

Darkness isn't the absence of light, it's the absence of U ~ Prince
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Reply #116 posted 06/02/10 9:36am

Bulldog

I always believed a good song is just that, a good song. Doesn't matter who recorded it, who's is playing on it, or what genre.

Most of the artists that are mentioned on this thread have more to do with Pop culture. If they came out with a GREAT song, you would love them again, period. Most of them are not singer/songwriters, but mere performance artists. I can still care about and respect the true singer/songwriter, not a cash cow that is disguised as one.

So the BIG question is:

Is it that lack of good material that is making you less appreciative?

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Reply #117 posted 06/02/10 1:01pm

elmer

AshK said:

carlcranshaw said:

After MJ's passing you kind of have to say the whole music industry. It's not the same without him.

And those Artists who tried to compete with him and say he wasn't really any competiton - let's see how well they do now.

MJ hadn't done anything of musical worth since Dangerous, and on a personal level he'd disgraced himself. Not everyone was that bothered.

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Reply #118 posted 06/02/10 1:06pm

Harlepolis

Evvy said:

you all have called out these once beloved artist- but you have to admit that if one of them died or came out with another "hit" you'd be digging out your old lp's and reminiscing hard! nod

In my case, its a giving,,,,I mean I still play Mimi & Mary J's old albums anyway, I just don't think their new stuff are worth buying or even downloading shrug

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