paisleypark4 said:

sosgemini said:

paisleypark4 said:

I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people.

That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them....

8 Mile was directed by an Academy Award nominated director. Gummo, as controversial as it was, never received mainstream attention. If you want to compare Perry to anyone, compare him to the Kirk Cameron type horribly made Christian films that rack in millions. Yet, you don't see mainstream media or critics clamoring to praise these films. They reach their target audience and that's it. The difference with Perry films is that black folk scream racism if Perry's films don't get positive reviews or media attention which puts white guilt on where people like Roger Ebert gotta dance around the fact that these films are horrible.

Come to think of it, I bet you Tyler Perry is waisting a ishhhh loads of money on marketing (unlike Cameron's christian films that are all about word of mouth.)

midiscover said:

Some of you sound so fucking stupid Tyler is just directing the movie. The original writers of the play are doing the writing.

midiscover said:

Some of you sound so fucking stupid Tyler is just directing the movie. The original writers of the play are doing the writing.

Each year there are wonderful scripts butchered to death by horrible directors. See any Brett Ratner or Ron Howard film. (90s to 00s Ron Howard. What happened to him? He used to be soo good.)

SCNDLS said:

NastradumasKid said:

paisleypark4 said:

I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people. That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them....

And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life.

and no it's not just you I love how his fans love throwing up how much money he's making as if that justifies the bullshit images and stereotypes he's perpetuating. All his financial success still does not mean that his movies are artful or good for black folks' image. By that token, I guess we should ignore the disaster in the gulf cuz BP made tons of money. [Edited 5/28/10 10:02am]

Where in the Sam Hell did I say anything about money? U came up with that urself

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paisleypark4 said:

SCNDLS said:

NastradumasKid said:

paisleypark4 said:

I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people. That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them....

And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life.

and no it's not just you I love how his fans love throwing up how much money he's making as if that justifies the bullshit images and stereotypes he's perpetuating. All his financial success still does not mean that his movies are artful or good for black folks' image. By that token, I guess we should ignore the disaster in the gulf cuz BP made tons of money. [Edited 5/28/10 10:02am]

Where in the Sam Hell did I say anything about money? U came up with that urself

you REALLY need to relax cuz I wasn't even talking about you. If you've seen other threads about TP others have mentioned money any time somebody criticizes TP. Everythang ain't about you.

SCNDLS said:

Ain't nobody arguing but you.

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Ah come on dude. Don't you know movies like Juice, Menace to Society, Boyz in the Hood, Superbad, the 40 Year Old Virgin, the Terminator, and Rambo aren't stereotypes. Didn't you know by now that Tyler Perry is the only film director that cast stereotypes in his movies? What in the hell were you thinking? I also take issue with you stereotyping the white family comedy with them living in a nice home in suburbia with a nice home with two kids, the dog, and their parents Dan and Marge driving a Mercedes. How dare you insult the intelligence of orgers with that bullshit?

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paisleypark4 said:

SCNDLS said:

paisleypark4 said:

SCNDLS said:

NastradumasKid said:

paisleypark4 said:

I just appreciate the fact that somebody cares enough to even make these films. They are successful for not having big special effects or being action packed; but to tell stories for people who have been neglected for a long time...we have not had alot of films that had these issues written in an African American perspective and when they were it was ever so often a couple of years or on a film no one had easy access to. As someone who grew up with those backgrounds in my family (abuse, rape, child mollestation, love, etc. I appreciate it so much! If anything they are almost like therapy for some people. That goes the same for movies like Gummo or Kids...even 8 Mile. If there was a filmmaker that told stories about growing up in a predominatley lower class Caucasian perspective they would be successful too. I would not hate on it at all..if anything I would like to see more movies like those because there definitley are more people out there in that enviornment. No one is speaking for them....

And that's fine. You can support him all you want and I'm glad you found some happiness from his flims. But telling people they're haters just because some of us don't like him nor care for his flims doesn't make anything better. I find his movies to be idiotic and mediocre, but just me. Nevertheless, I will say I'm glad he's doing something with his life.

and no it's not just you I love how his fans love throwing up how much money he's making as if that justifies the bullshit images and stereotypes he's perpetuating. All his financial success still does not mean that his movies are artful or good for black folks' image. By that token, I guess we should ignore the disaster in the gulf cuz BP made tons of money. [Edited 5/28/10 10:02am]

Where in the Sam Hell did I say anything about money? U came up with that urself

you REALLY need to relax cuz I wasn't even talking about you. If you've seen other threads about TP others have mentioned money any time somebody criticizes TP. Everythang ain't about you.

U guys are just making an argument out of thin air when the subject matter had nothing to do with that.

Ummm...I wasn't even arguing, hell I wasn't even hating on Tyler Perry.

phunkdaddy said:

paisleypark4 said: NastradumasKid said: Timmy84 said: Tyler Perry sucks. Always have and always will. He's instilling the black stereotypes...how convinent. And has black actors and actresses actually working again, how convinent. Every American film has a stereotype of SOMETHING. If I put on a Kung Fu movie right now made in Asia I KNOW somebody is going to be eating some rice in the background or something....I can watch a white family comedy and most likely see them in a nice home with two kids and a dog..that is also stereotypical. Ah come on dude. Don't you know movies like Juice, Menace to Society, Boyz in the Hood, Superbad, the 40 Year Old Virgin, the Terminator, and Rambo aren't stereotypes. Didn't you know by now that Tyler Perry is the only film director that cast stereotypes in his movies? What in the hell were you thinking? I also take issue with you stereotyping the white family comedy with them living in a nice home in suburbia with a nice home with two kids, the dog, and their parents Dan and Marge driving a Mercedes. How dare you insult the intelligence of orgers with that bullshit? [Edited 5/31/10 23:20pm]

[Edited 5/31/10 23:21pm]

Not meaining to rain on this "Tyler Perry sucks" thread, but getting back to one of the reasons for the original post of this thread, according to Radar Online, it's official - Mariah is preggers.

http://www.radaronline.co...y-pregnant

Congratulations to Mimi and Nick.

midiscover said:

Some of you sound so fucking stupid Tyler is just directing the movie. The original writers of the play are doing the writing.

so is it official? Mariah is pregnant?

SoulAlive said:

so is it official? Mariah is pregnant?

Mariah and Nick haven't made any annoucements..yet. That's what I'm waiting for. But if she is, people must feel like dumbasses for calling her fat.

Layzie said:

SoulAlive said:

so is it official? Mariah is pregnant?

Mariah and Nick haven't made any annoucements..yet. That's what I'm waiting for. But if she is, people must feel like dumbasses for calling her fat.

For the past ten years?

sosgemini said:

Layzie said:

Mariah and Nick haven't made any annoucements..yet. That's what I'm waiting for. But if she is, people must feel like dumbasses for calling her fat.

For the past ten years?

She only started putting on weight in the last year and a half, which is how long they have been trying to get pregnant allegedly.

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[Edited 6/3/10 14:29pm]

Sorry the size.

Harlepolis said:

Sorry the size.

I could make a joke here but I won't.

sosgemini said:

Harlepolis said:

Sorry the size.

I could make a joke here but I won't.

Harlepolis said:

phunkdaddy said:

Hell Mariah was never colored anyway.

Mm mm mm

Hilarious. LOL.